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motla68
03-15-11, 06:43 AM
I come from the same trenches as many of you all came from, the deep fields of patriot banter holding on to the U.S. flag and the constitution and that common law was going to save our country, got in a little trouble along the way. Eventually learned commercial redemption and had a little success, learned some more and eventually came to the conclusion that I did not need a guru to give me mental sanity, started creating my own stuff from nothing having even more success with it. New years 2006 I came to the conclusion that there had to be a better way instead of using mountains of paperwork to accomplish a task, the research started.
Never been to jail before so I decided to get myself in a situation to get put in there so I could do my research, funny how lawyers pay thousands of dollars to get this education. I tested the waters on a lot of things and long story short I was out in 10 hours after being put in.
Next I had made some challenges to corporations based upon my findings, one thing I did was use the Liberty Dollar silver rounds to pay vehicle taxes, even did some exchanges with a couple people in line waiting to do the same thing, sure enough 2 weeks later the account was zeroed out.
Towards end of 2008 I had put a lot of pieces of the puzzle but it did not get more simplified until I talked to a private group up in canada about what they were doing with similar information and success. Very, very exciting to see it all put together on a whole different level with success, so our study group who was following this up came to the conclusion that we had to find the American version of all this and start finding the parallels within U.S. codes, regs alike, we had to create a group so that everyone had access to the same information and that is how Coresource Solution started. I was the one to have the first success and many others followed, most of the core people who started that group have moved on to create their own groups and spread the seed of knowledge.

One of the first things we found is that in every states birth statutes it stated that the Registrar is the one to register the birth and it was not the parents, their role was basically just a witness to the event. An then we found the Mortgage to National Debt pdf document that showed the currency was backed by the mortgages on the homes to where the currency was really not needed. Continuing with thoughts now, The Louisiana Purchase, if the land was already purchased what the hell are we doing paying for it again?
Then came the Senate Resolution #62 that all ownership of property was by way of the state. Also the way the money system was setup disabled are way to really " pay " for anything, the use of these coupons was very TAXING if you know what I mean.
We had known the real story behind the civil war and a couple of us had heard something about a Liber Code so we went to investigate and found a couple answers to questions in our minds.
One being this video we seen from canada showing the words " Revenue Receipt " on the back of a canadian birth certificate, so between the liber code and this and the SR #62 that the concuring army had everything for it's benefit of necessity. Also that when inhabitants give receipts for certain expenses they are indemnified. From that we also understood from the days of commercial redemption that the remittance was actually a check, an exchequer to be exact.
So now when I did that first remittance from all what we gathered and wanted to make it simple I said to myself why not just make it very simple and just call it what it is? " not my property"
and why should I put the ssn on it if they already have it in their computer? We should not have to do an AFV thing, these people know what needs to be done just tell them what needs to be done:

" This account name and number is property of the United States of America, please deposit to the owner in care of Treasury of the United States ".
by; {sign in all caps} Date:

That is all it was for the first one, later one to other we started putting " Authorized Signatory" below the name because we felt Signatory was better then Representative, we were not trying to represent it like a defendant in court, just empower the trustees to do their jobs.
Never stopped with the research though, we then found that the Liber Code had been adopted into the Hague Convention declaration on human rights 1953 Article #55 per the documents of the Hague.
Our first court successes were based upon a Jack smith audio combined with the knowledge we had already put together, paper slide of the Birth Certificate, then some dude named Batman on the internet we came across was winning in court without paperwork so then we learned from him and had some court successes. Now me personally get emails from all over the world, every now an then of study groups i never knew existed and telling me that had a success and this without asking me 101 questions of how do you get there?

So there it is, how we got to the knowledge we know now. We just need the help of knowledgeable people on trusts to get to the next level where we do not have to mess with remittances and all that any more, everything is just taken care of. If all man including woman are equal then why should we be any different then the Queen of England or the Pope for that fact? She just points to things an they are done. BUT as knowledgeable Peaceful Inhabitants we know if everyone were like this how would anything get done, so we have to work together just as they did before there was any currency like a resourced based society.
A wise man once said if there was not need for oil then the Gulf Crisis would not have happened, well could we not say the same thing about a monetary system?
Return everything in Lawful Money and be indemnified, just like the old woman did in the biblical story of who gave everything she had to the temple for the benefit of all.

I give as the spirit directs me to give, not by the demands of others who are unwilling to do for themselves.

Direct link to Hague - Article #55 http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/hague02.asp#art55

Modified=705925685F6DCB01EE (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/hague02.asp#art55 Modified=705925685F6DCB01EE)

David Merrill
03-15-11, 11:19 PM
Thanks for adding the graphics. I see that two are associated and gather that the woman discharged the remittance on her Buick and they zeroed out the balance. Did they send her renewal stickers? Or plates?


http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=102&d=1300133333


http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=103&d=1300133308

motla68
03-15-11, 11:44 PM
Thanks for adding the graphics. I see that two are associated and gather that the woman discharged the remittance on her Buick and they zeroed out the balance. Did they send her renewal stickers? Or plates?

This was vehicle taxes not registration renewal, so no stickers or plates. Just refunded for the check she wrote and the 2nd image showing what she printed off the internet after receiving that refund.

Sovereignty
03-16-11, 05:05 AM
I have this reoccurring thought that those that receive an Ivy League education (the rich) already know this information. It's only we, the people, the peeons who can't afford a Classical education, who waste our time learning enough to sit in a cubicle.

Thanks for the pieces to the puzzle...

motla68
03-16-11, 05:57 AM
I have this reoccurring thought that those that receive an Ivy League education (the rich) already know this information. It's only we, the people, the peeons who can't afford a Classical education, who waste our time learning enough to sit in a cubicle.
Thanks for the pieces to the puzzle...

You got it man, but they do it a little differently which is creating a couple separate trusts, one for the private(equity) and one for the public(monetary), instead of having a Birth Certificate to live through they live through the Trust Certificate on the private side, the public side makes bond investments or sometimes is a foundation. The private trust contracts out to the Public trust their time as Manager of the Public Business Trust. Public makes payments for that time not monetarily but in equitable goods that can be used, gas, food, clothing, housing e.t.c.
By learning trust law we are working at closing the gap between all of these schools of thought.

David Merrill
03-16-11, 05:13 PM
This was vehicle taxes not registration renewal, so no stickers or plates. Just refunded for the check she wrote and the 2nd image showing what she printed off the internet after receiving that refund.

That explains it!! In that State the taxes are not interwoven with registration and plates. In Florida and Colorado they are.

Look at this example (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImYjQ0MjllNTMtZDU4Yy00ZjY0LWJlM jEtYWMzN2I0ZWQ5ZDgz&hl=en) of the same thing. This supports that there is no substance in the Treasury Direct Account - or whatever you choose to call it. The taxation was nullified because she owns the car, designated by the Demand for Lawful Money - non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes in red ink. On her stamp though she designates US Notes in the form of FRNs by saying - non-redeemable (already redeemed).

It probably takes more techniques applied at once to qualify for what I think is "shotgun" style application. What I am saying though is that she tried two things on the remittance, of which only one was actually substantial in law.


http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=108&d=1300133333

David Merrill
03-16-11, 05:26 PM
P.S.

I should add though, in defense of Anthony Joseph's stance that the way you have described this, the woman could have simply sent a check or money order and produced the exact documents as "evidence" you present here. To appease both of you I implore all readers to consider Rules of Evidence as we hear whatever anybody wants to write here. And AJ was proper to call a fellow member on declaring the documents presented as "evidence" - it just stirred up a fit that required mopping up by Admin.

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=94&d=1300133333

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=95&d=1300133308

From what I am reading Motla68, the woman sent a check, and would have gotten a zero setoff from that alone, which we see here. What we need to see for evidence would be the same amount on the refund check sent back to her by the State of NC. You have left us, who know about Rules of Evidence to believe she got a Refund for her tax money and I think what AJ was saying is that We Don't. It is not calling you a liar or fraud, it is that you have to accept that we are courts of competent jurisdiction. While I find it plausible, it is useless.

Here is an example of the Treasury Direct Account (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImNGNiYzBmYzQtYjUyNC00OWVjLWEzZ jEtYzBkN2JmNWNlNzFj&hl=en) in a process-to-results evidence package. However, read how the Result page reserved the right to resume billing. I hear they did. We (a suitor) tried this on a nearly identical situation - even better in that it was the Government Student Loan program for $5K. We put it in front of the US Clerk for evidence repository only, who made legal decisions and other inappriate flaws in the Record, so much so that it indicated that the account should have been Setoff, and it was at one point in the reporting. However, after the clerk of court fudged it up, the billing resumed and we had to call the experiment inconclusive.

The next two images are only tangentially related, in my opinion.

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=96&d=1300033458

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=99&d=1299868479

A newspaper article and even Senate Reports are only explanatory material at best.

This last image of yours:

I am familiar with that image from ThinkFreeForums - Continued...

Anthony Joseph
03-16-11, 05:39 PM
P.S.

I should add though, in defense of Anthony Joseph's stance that the way you have described this, the woman could have simply sent a check or money order and produced the exact documents as "evidence" you present here. To appease both of you I implore all readers to consider Rules of Evidence as we hear whatever anybody wants to write here. And AJ was proper to call a fellow member on declaring the documents presented as "evidence" - it just stirred up a fit that required mopping up by Admin.

Correct. Anecdotes are fine to present in that vain; absent real and actual "evidence". However, if someone wishes to tout "success" using a specific "XXXX method" or "XXXX way", then the supporting documentation attachments should reveal that success convincingly rather then a sanitized receipt which could have been easily been gotten by paying the fee as well. We can't determine that from what was offered.

Convincing someone in cyberspace is not what we're after here; but if you wish to promote a specific method of reproducible success, then the responsibility which follows is to fully disclose it and provide attachments and documents which cannot be easily explained away or refuted.

I think that requirement is more than fair and, as I said, we welcome everyone's opinion and anecdotes if they are presented that way.

David Merrill
03-16-11, 05:47 PM
P.S. Continued...

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=100&d=1299827206

I worked quite a while to get that backside matched up with the front.

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6562/birthcertregistrationre.jpg

There is a registration receipt with the Provincial government in Canada, but there are no funds associated with that just because it is registered with the Department of Revenue.


http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7078/birthcertnobond.jpg


At the time it was venomously argued, What do you expect them to say?

I of course expect them to say the truth - being on a government letterhead! However suppose it is a lie... The lie makes any supposition about Treasury Direct STRAWMAN Redemption (by whatever name) moot. You will have to correct the corruption in government before the mythology about the birth certificate as a stock certificate in Canada to be practicable.



Regards,

David Merrill.

motla68
03-16-11, 06:51 PM
That explains it!! In that State the taxes are not interwoven with registration and plates. In Florida and Colorado they are.
This supports that there is no substance in the Treasury Direct Account - or whatever you choose to call it. The taxation was nullified because she owns the car, designated by the Demand for Lawful Money - non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes in red ink. On her stamp though she designates US Notes in the form of FRNs by saying - non-redeemable (already redeemed).
It probably takes more techniques applied at once to qualify for what I think is "shotgun" style application. What I am saying though is that she tried two things on the remittance, of which only one was actually substantial in law.


I have played around with some wording on a couple of remittances of trial an error, this does not seem to be the case, I think it has more to do with the part that says "Deposit for credit on Account" and combined with the written language " Deposit to the owner " . So it seems to be the owner 109(the state where registration took place) is the issuer of the credit to settle the account in the county records.110

Additionally the 2 tickets I settled out of court recently, on the second one instead of putting " account name and number is owned by the United States of America" I then put " account name and number is owned by the State of North Carolina " and had the same effect. We are working on something else too based on some information we got from a private group in canada that has has some success just sending the bills to the local Finance Minister to settle, we have determined that position here is somewhere in the birth state where the COLB came from, either the registrar or the chief of justice for the county court where the birth took place. Canadian statutes say the registrar general, but we have uncovered stuff relating to bankruptcy where it is the chief of justice in some states for the county the matter derived from.

motla68
03-16-11, 07:06 PM
P.S.

From what I am reading Motla68, the woman sent a check, and would have gotten a zero setoff from that alone, which we see here. What we need to see for evidence would be the same amount on the refund check sent back to her by the State of NC. You have left us, who know about Rules of Evidence to believe she got a Refund for her tax money and I think what AJ was saying is that We Don't. It is not calling you a liar or fraud, it is that you have to accept that we are courts of competent jurisdiction. While I find it plausible, it is useless.

Here is an example of the Treasury Direct Account (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImNGNiYzBmYzQtYjUyNC00OWVjLWEzZ jEtYzBkN2JmNWNlNzFj&hl=en)

The next two images are only tangentially related, in my opinion.

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=96&d=1300033458

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=99&d=1299868479

A newspaper article and even Senate Reports are only explanatory material at best.

This last image of yours:

I am familiar with that image from ThinkFreeForums - Continued...

I hear you about the AJ thing, but this is the internet where anyone can be anybody or anything so you got to expect that ROE can be difficult to prove, this is why due diligence is so necessary. I know a site with a bunch of link and stuff suck, but if someone tells you exactly where to go when you get there I do not see the problem with that.

I heard from the lady and a friend of hers who witnessed it that the refund check received was for the same amount. However this lady seen to have got scared of her own success or some other reason because she refused to let us have even a sanitized version of the check to put up, she no longer comes to our local meetings either. So all we can do is speculate what happened to here, not sure if she got a visit from the county or something.

On the last 2 images I had to make a snippet of both of those, because this forum still will not let me load the entire file for some reason. If you have skype contact me at: jeagas68 and then I can send you the whole files they are snipped from.

motla68
03-16-11, 07:21 PM
At the time it was venomously argued, What do you expect them to say?

I of course expect them to say the truth - being on a government letterhead! However suppose it is a lie... The lie makes any supposition about Treasury Direct STRAWMAN Redemption (by whatever name) moot. You will have to correct the corruption in government before the mythology about the birth certificate as a stock certificate in Canada to be practicable.


I do not know why you keep going back to that, I have never said anything about there being a Treasury Direct account or said the words STRAWMAN Redemption. BUT you have to consider that there would be no Secrets of the State Act if they did not have anything to hide. Additionally the obvious, when income taxes are paid and a return for refund is applied for at the end of the year them funds have to come from some account somewhere to verify how much was paid in, make sense?

David Merrill
03-16-11, 09:17 PM
I do not know why you keep going back to that, I have never said anything about there being a Treasury Direct account or said the words STRAWMAN Redemption. BUT you have to consider that there would be no Secrets of the State Act if they did not have anything to hide. Additionally the obvious, when income taxes are paid and a return for refund is applied for at the end of the year them funds have to come from some account somewhere to verify how much was paid in, make sense?

If you want to tell me what you call it, then I might consider substituting the same words in for it. The terms I use are more common words for the same thing you are talking about. There is also a tendency to involve "HJR-192" in the mythical accounts. The SSN is a personal TIN (Tax Identification Number) which is the number for the account that the Withholdings are kept in. That is pretty much equal to the amount of withholdings that your employer or you have put in it.

You allude to Secrets of the State Act and you also referred once to the Lieber Code being cited in the Hague Convention 1953, Article #55. Can you link us to those please?

You are right about Internet Yarn! I like you and like you here. You expressly state that you have the documentation about two traffic tickets that you had setoff and so I hope you might let us in some sanitized images...


Regards,

David Merrill.

motla68
03-16-11, 09:57 PM
If you want to tell me what you call it, then I might consider substituting the same words in for it. The terms I use are more common words for the same thing you are talking about. There is also a tendency to involve "HJR-192" in the mythical accounts. The SSN is a personal TIN (Tax Identification Number) which is the number for the account that the Withholdings are kept in. That is pretty much equal to the amount of withholdings that your employer or you have put in it.

You allude to Secrets of the State Act and you also referred once to the Lieber Code being cited in the Hague Convention 1953, Article #55. Can you link us to those please?

You are right about Internet Yarn! I like you and like you here. You expressly state that you have the documentation about two traffic tickets that you had setoff and so I hope you might let us in some sanitized images.

We call it the Coresource Method or just say CS Method. It does not have all the aspects of someone doing AFV so sometimes called it non-afv method here. We are not acting as the trustee for the instrument, it is more like an approval FDA stamp type take, whatever to allow the trustees to do their job. It is the equivalent to the CFO at a corporation to act as fiduciary to communicate with the state and get the account credited.

HJR-192 is simply the codification within the military government structure, again that kind of thing is for statutory employees per previous discussion on " Persons ".
Not really for us to be concerned about as far as CS Method goes, that is for the trustees to worry about of the Public Trust (Cesti Que Vie).

State Secrets Protection Act: Brief information just to show you this actually exists - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2533

and

Evidence that the Liber Code was adopted by the Hague Convention: Again very brief information to show the method to what I describe -
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/73cb71d18dc4372741256739003e6372/a25aa5871a04919bc12563cd002d65c5?OpenDocument

Also

Direct link to the Art. 55 : http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/195-200065?OpenDocument

If you are really interested now it would be in your best interest to learn the words Usufruct and Usufructuary which can be found in most legal dictionaries.
On that note I guess you could say the one word that kicked started us off on this journey is usufruct as found in the following quote:
" the earth is held in usufruct for the living "
- Thomas Jefferson

Unfortunately I do not have a decent scanner right now to be able to scan those papers in about the tickets, it would come out very bad. So hold that thought and
I will get it in here when I can.

Peace be with you.

Michael Joseph
03-17-11, 12:53 AM
If the Registered Owner is CQVT, a creation of and in the State; and, the Rights of Use = Property is registered IN the State and the Survey is also registered IN the State then the Seal of Authority is the State Seal; therefore nothing has left the State - IN REGARD TO - Property. What is Property again? - Right of Use.

Trust Model (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?24-The-first-constitutions&p=143&viewfull=1#post143)

The Property is not the Form of Matter.

motla68
03-17-11, 04:08 AM
If the Registered Owner is CQVT, a creation of and in the State; and, the Rights of Use = Property is registered IN the State and the Survey is also registered IN the State then the Seal of Authority is the State Seal; therefore nothing has left the State - IN REGARD TO - Property. What is Property again? - Right of Use.

Trust Model (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?24-The-first-constitutions&p=143&viewfull=1#post143)

The Property is not the Form of Matter.

Beautifully written MJ, I enjoyed the separation in thought here:
" The Legal Title manages the Rights of Use or manages the Property. And the Equitable Title Uses the Right of Use or Uses the Property.
The Equitable Title is in the Registered Owner. And the State, as Trustee issues a Certificate of Title upon the Registered Owner. Now the Registered Owner may transfer the Right of Use into another Trust; yet the management of the Right of Use never leaves the State! "

Within the statutes the name though the name on the Certificate of Title is the one with Beneficial interest. For us to be this we would have to consent to being a statutory employee, so who owns the Person, the seal for the name on the COLB is the birth state. Someone in our study group found in canada statutes the registrar general is the one with signing authority of the name, this makes sense in linking it to the following post: http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?111-Citizenship-defined-lost-in-translation.&p=515#post515
You are correct in the sense of right to Equitable use though, but that right is not by any of man's forms, this is where the unalienable natural law comes in: Genesis 1:26 - 28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=1&v=26&t=KJV#26)

True man and paper our inheritable separate, but what we do in providing for the society is for the benefit of all just as what others do has an effect on us on the natural law side of things.

In reference to the above biblical verses quoted:
HEIR. One born in lawful matrimony, who succeeds by descent, and right of blood, to lands, tenements or hereditaments, being an estate of inheritance. It is an established rule of law, that God alone can make an heir.
1856 Bouviers Dictionary (http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_h.htm)

We have found some key areas where the bible scriptures are hidden within such as the above example.
Also as we are connected through Natural Law, we are godhead over the creations that took from the natural resources of our inheritance:

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

But not godhead over each other:

Deuteronomy 6:14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;

Underneath the masks of persona we are all the same. When one strips themselves of these things and stands upon peace being the "first" in "giving" the other opportunity to settle honorably, good things happen. From giving comes forgiveness. This is difficult for many to do because are Ego has been trained so long to fight.
MJ, you have learned this yourself not long ago from what I remember, you made peace and used the given names without paper or plastic.

Have a blessed evening.

David Merrill
04-02-11, 09:52 AM
Utility has its demands. Law is mathematics, the study of reproducible mental objects...


I have heard echo from a couple people who do not believe in Private Law, but we do it all the time, but break it as well. Someone shares with you an amicable agreement in private, now that is law, somehow in your dealing with each other you cannot not agree on a particular thing so you bring it to a third party, you could have chose one man in confidence as a mediator in private, BUT you bring it into a Public Court instead. When private matters are brought into the public it is telling the court that you are not competent enough to settle this in private so now you are here and have to deal with our rules of how this will turnout.

I always insist on handling things in the private first and I let them (the DA and court know it), before coming down to meet the appointment of summons I announce my visit and for what purpose I am there by notice through the mail, then when I arrive it is just then a simple matter of doing what I said i was going to do in asking them to settle honorably " in private " before it is brought into public where they could be exposed to public scrutiny as well as i. If you really operate as a peaceful inhabitant and have this intent, things go much more smoothly.
So none of this has to do with public court room rules or procedures, it is a private amicable
agreement settled in private for some ticket a dumb ass cop made a public matter to put it bluntly.

PRIVATE. Not general, as a private act of the legislature; not in office;
as, a private person, as well as an officer, may arrest a felon; individual,
as your private interest; not public, as a private way, a private nuisance.
- 1856 Bouviers Dictionary

I cannot show you what i had wrapped in that paper, but I can tell you about it again.

- Robin-egg blue paper, wrapped 4 fold.

- Inside what was wrapped:

1. printout from online showing the certified mail previously delivered by notice of my visit and purpose for me being there.

2. copy of presentment (ticket) that had CS language written upon it that was sent in with the notice by certified mail.

3. copy of instrument printed out from the DMV that the vehicle was registered with the state.
( nothing i wrote on it)

4. copy of Birth Certificate

- All 4 sheets were stapled together.

The CS language written on the presentment is mentioned several times in the audio files on our talkshoe group, go there to hear "why" you would put this on the presentment.

Does this help any at all? If not then I guess we are done.


Contents of the blue paper in this forum:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?166-Deposit-Your-Pledge-Into-a-Bank-and-Freely-Elect-to-be-Bankrupt-and-Insolvent&p=1256&viewfull=1#post1256 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?166-Deposit-Your-Pledge-Into-a-Bank-and-Freely-Elect-to-be-Bankrupt-and-Insolvent&p=1256&viewfull=1#post1256)

Canon 1557

An Ecclesiastical Deed Poll must always be on robin-egg blue paper in recognition and respect of its status as a Divine Notice with the full authority of One Heaven, in particular the Sacred Rota and twelve Apostolic Prothonotaries as well as Apostolic Prothorabban of the Divine Sanhedrin.

Canon 1563

An Ecclesiastical Deed Poll must always be on robin-egg blue paper and glued strongly to the reverse of a copy of the 1st page of any notice, demand, summons sent by the inferior Roman Person.

There is other authority we are researching, it is not complete yet so cannot show that part.

Tell me what part of this is hiding anything and not telling you why?

The New Covenant begins with a formative treatise by an Occupation Tax collector named Matthew. The Epistles are from the formation of the Roman Welfare State by a man named Shaul; who renamed himself Paul. There was an intentional canonization and encryption as the Babylonian Talmud took on written form, from the oral law. Rather than enter upon the same Mantra (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImNTg5N2I4ZGEtNzEzNC00N2QzLTg1Z jMtNjU3YTRkZTJmNGMx&hl=en)and Schism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRSLmlFqExU), let's communicate about this. Sunday school may be oriented around Denial, but you will have to face these facts sooner or later if you like anything about the Coresource Solution at all.

Motla68 might have just shown us what is in the blue envelope! His behavior is in my opinion that of a man who believes he can see glimpses, but those that showed him those glimpses convinced him these are true; just did not equip him with the tools to convince others. But from the quotes attached we discern that he knows more than he will teach us here and that has led to rejection. - The proverbial throwing out of the baby with the bathwater!

Some tools lost to the mythology along The Way:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHk9KUFlk2M
But that is only a snippet from Click Here (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImNGNmOTg2YjEtMmIwYS00ZjA1LWJiM zgtNzE4NDIzNTU4Yjc3&hl=en).

Would it make sense to anybody that the Roman Catholic Church, canonizing through a Masonic King James (1611) would develop naturally from Paul's craven quest to save his own hide, from his own lack of faith? He spent the last five years of his life hiding from his own kinsman (the Sanhedrin) who wanted to kill him over his Roman citizenship.

Therefore I think rather than to ignore Motla68, censorship, moderation, banishment, ostracism... We might simply pursuade him it is the brain trust he might be more interested in. Literally a party in interest by sharing the template in the robin egg-blue wrapper.



Regards,

David Merrill.

shikamaru
04-02-11, 11:51 AM
If all property is vested in the State, this is Communism.

David Merrill
04-02-11, 11:59 AM
If all property is vested in the State, this is Communism.

When there is government, an organization to protect the property rights, then there is no other choice. It must have a registry of the properties it is to protect. That is the direction I want the Property Tax thread to get back to eventually, after exhausing the other possibilities. - Privately pay the mill tax on the services you would like, selecting them from last year's CAFR.

That topic btw took some wonderful turns on the "private" brain trust side - email broadcasts. I will likely bring some Crosstalk back into that thread here to produce some more development here.

Anthony Joseph
04-02-11, 01:57 PM
When there is government, an organization to protect the property rights, then there is no other choice. It must have a registry of the properties it is to protect. That is the direction I want the Property Tax thread to get back to eventually, after exhausing the other possibilities. - Privately pay the mill tax on the services you would like, selecting them from last year's CAFR.

That topic btw took some wonderful turns on the "private" brain trust side - email broadcasts. I will likely bring some Crosstalk back into that thread here to produce some more development here.

No other choice in that "governement" has been recognized, accepted and chosen as the protecting mechanism of what we stake claims to. My opinion is that the "government" is a dual role capacity formation; it will either charitably protect the interests and claims of self-governing and competent men inhabiting the land in peace, or it will accept the pledge of those who take on the role and subject character of "resident" or "citizen" from within that formation. It will gather, harness and harvest the labor, property, energy and sweat equity of all "willing volunteers" onto itself and be the controller of and over these "volunteer pledgers" and their property/substance.

The main nexus to becoming a "pledger" is signature endorsement of the private credit of the FED; Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT's "NEW DEAL". He even admitted that the people would need to be "persuaded" to "deposit their salary checks in new accounts" in order to make "progress". This reveals the voluntary nature of endorsing private credit, although the "persuasion" has taken on the form of intentional deception, dishonor, concealment and bully tactics upon the unsuspecting populace who are conditioned and trained by the government-controlled public school system, society and culture to accept "being a pledger" as normative and patriotic. These lies are disguised as truth and the ruse begins at the very moment a child is born. Then, they are taught and conditioned to be a "good pledger" their entire life.

David Merrill
04-02-11, 03:18 PM
No other choice in that "governement" has been recognized, accepted and chosen as the protecting mechanism of what we stake claims to. My opinion is that the "government" is a dual role capacity formation; it will either charitably protect the interests and claims of self-governing and competent men inhabiting the land in peace, or it will accept the pledge of those who take on the role and subject character of "resident" or "citizen" from within that formation. It will gather, harness and harvest the labor, property, energy and sweat equity of all "willing volunteers" onto itself and be the controller of and over these "volunteer pledgers" and their property/substance.

The main nexus to becoming a "pledger" is signature endorsement of the private credit of the FED; Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT's "NEW DEAL". He even admitted that the people would need to be "persuaded" to "deposit their salary checks in new accounts" in order to make "progress". This reveals the voluntary nature of endorsing private credit, although the "persuasion" has taken on the form of intentional deception, dishonor, concealment and bully tactics upon the unsuspecting populace who are conditioned and trained by the government-controlled public school system, society and culture to accept "being a pledger" as normative and patriotic. These lies are disguised as truth and the ruse begins at the very moment a child is born. Then, they are taught and conditioned to be a "good pledger" their entire life.

Reading that, I believe readers may understand why I become agitated with Motla68 for asserting that there is some kind of extra accounting going on. The SDR's are based in that conditioning our entire lives.

motla68
04-02-11, 03:42 PM
The main nexus to becoming a "pledger" is signature endorsement of the private credit of the FED; Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT's "NEW DEAL". He even admitted that the people would need to be "persuaded" to "deposit their salary checks in new accounts" in order to make "progress". This reveals the voluntary nature of endorsing private credit, although the "persuasion" has taken on the form of intentional deception, dishonor, concealment and bully tactics upon the unsuspecting populace who are conditioned and trained by the government-controlled public school system, society and culture to accept "being a pledger" as normative and patriotic. These lies are disguised as truth and the ruse begins at the very moment a child is born. Then, they are taught and conditioned to be a "good pledger" their entire life.

See, you guys have bits and pieces of the truth. This is good. The whole idea of authenticating the Certificate of Live Birth in which we now have a new link found to get this done:
http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/
It is to obtain the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt from their own hand, that we are not the pledger, it is they who signed and authorized the instrument who are the pledger.
This was another linkage to the Paderford vs. City of Savannah case where it shows " only states have a right to complain " and that we were not a party to the constitution,
Natural law vs. Social contract.

David Merrill
04-02-11, 03:52 PM
See, you guys have bits and pieces of the truth. This is good. The whole idea of authenticating the Certificate of Live Birth in which we now have a new link found to get this done:
http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/
It is to obtain the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt from their own hand, that we are not the pledger, it is they who signed and authorized the instrument who are the pledger.
This was another linkage to the Paderford vs. City of Savannah case where it shows " only states have a right to complain " and that we were not a party to the constitution,
Natural law vs. Social contract.

I have to hand it to the members here. We are patient enough with your arrogance to set still while Coresource Solutions attempts to teach us how to learn. 200 Posts and that is what your explanation is Motla68; you are so wise that you offer us links so we might learn to fish and feed ourselves.

motla68
04-02-11, 04:16 PM
I have to hand it to the members here. We are patient enough with your arrogance to set still while Coresource Solutions attempts to teach us how to learn. 200 Posts and that is what your explanation is Motla68; you are so wise that you offer us links so we might learn to fish and feed ourselves.

No, arrogance is not the intent here and No I do not put myself above you all in inequality. I am sharing with you my own experience of what I have learned through hard work and due diligence of my own. Do you recall the saying I have mentioned here before, that goes something like this: " Feed a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for life " ?
It does an injustice upon humanity to just show you something, but if I can help people bust out of the molded box that men of power and control have created for them to keep them distracted of who they really are then I have succeeded in becoming one who has pleased his creator most high.

Anthony Joseph
04-02-11, 05:51 PM
See, you guys have bits and pieces of the truth. This is good. The whole idea of authenticating the Certificate of Live Birth in which we now have a new link found to get this done:
http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/
It is to obtain the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt from their own hand, that we are not the pledger, it is they who signed and authorized the instrument who are the pledger.
This was another linkage to the Paderford vs. City of Savannah case where it shows " only states have a right to complain " and that we were not a party to the constitution,
Natural law vs. Social contract.

Please explain why there is the requirement, in your opinion, that the "Certificate of Live Birth" be "authenticated" as the only means to prove or show that we never intended to be, or are no longer volunteering or acquiescing to the character of, the "pledger".

Why isn't are own declared, properly formed and recorded testimony enough to rebut that presumption?

motla68
04-02-11, 06:30 PM
Please explain why there is the requirement, in your opinion, that the "Certificate of Live Birth" be "authenticated" as the only means to prove or show that we never intended to be, or are no longer volunteering or acquiescing to the character of, the "pledger".

Why isn't are own declared, properly formed and recorded testimony enough to rebut that presumption?

It is not necessarily required, but is sure nice to have when you go in to inform the probate court or similar authority of your election in what you say is backed by their boss's mouth. You know how they like that word " Frivolous" .
In most everything I do am sure to have some kind of back up plan in case things take a turn for the worse, do not ever forget that. Even though we do what we do and have a belief in it, we suggest having silver bullion on hand just in case the system completely crashes before the mistake is corrected with everyone.

David Merrill
04-02-11, 09:57 PM
There is no such presumption to defeat. It is only the demand for lawful money that plays process in the Coresource Solution:




http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7078/birthcertnobond.jpg

motla68
04-03-11, 01:18 AM
There is no such presumption to defeat. It is only the demand for lawful money that plays process in the Coresource Solution:


http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7078/birthcertnobond.jpg

This is only one small piece of it, you are missing the big picture at large. Somehow the new guy in the group gets it but you do not. You were headed in the right direction with the elections and that it is all a religious ceremonial for them, but now your back to trying to put Coresource Solution back in a box and label it like a government would do to try and define it for some personal EGO.
Maybe the posts on natural law versus social contract law had made something click for you a little bit there, you might need to go back to that and see where you got lost at.
Go back to learning the distinctions how one benefits one and the other benefits the other.
I am ineligible for the benefits of social contract law but natural law is inherited upon my arrival on this earth.

David Merrill
04-03-11, 04:43 AM
This is only one small piece of it, you are missing the big picture at large. Somehow the new guy in the group gets it but you do not. You were headed in the right direction with the elections and that it is all a religious ceremonial for them, but now your back to trying to put Coresource Solution back in a box and label it like a government would do to try and define it for some personal EGO.
Maybe the posts on natural law versus social contract law had made something click for you a little bit there, you might need to go back to that and see where you got lost at.
Go back to learning the distinctions how one benefits one and the other benefits the other.
I am ineligible for the benefits of social contract law but natural law is inherited upon my arrival on this earth.

Incorrect. I am not missing the picture at all. I keep correcting your error with that official letter. That letter is real, and you should use it for a reality check Motla68.

You sent a papering package to your local sheriff with a contribution so he set it on his desk for a few weeks not knowing what to do with it. Since you sent money with it he thought it was disrespectful to just throw it out. When you met him and explained, that just meant it was okay to throw it out, now that you had negated its effect in law by verbal novation.

You are the one who is not getting the picture.

But I have to thank you for being you Motla68! You are the prodding that promoted this thread about Property Tax (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?132-Say-Goodbye-to-Property-Taxes). It is now obvious to see how big of a breakthrough I am thanking you for showing me with your experimentation four years ago!

I am not putting Coresource Solution back into a box. It does not exist to me. There is nothing to put back into the box. You are keeping Coresource Solution secret by not revealing the actual documentation on the sheriff's desk, or whatever the contents are in the robin egg-blue wrapping paper. [Do you actually expect that the DA has studied Canon Law to the extent he understands it is in full force and effect?]

The remedy you keep confusing with Coresource Solution was written into the Fed Act in 1913. Coresource Solution actually uses it and another thing you taught me is that the remedy is the same for Australia (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImMzUwZmIzYzQtMzUzZC00MGY3LTkzM jMtZDg0ZjQ5MTExN2U0&hl=en). Thank you again. Coresource Solution is the baby of Robert Arthur MENARD and all you need to do is look where it got him - nowhere (http://www.lawsociety.bc.ca/page.cfm?cid=441&t=Unauthorized-practice-of-law).



Robert Arthur Menard of North Vancouver has been prohibited by the Supreme Court from appearing as counsel, preparing documents for use in proceedings, and identifying himself in any way that suggests he is a lawyer. He was also ordered to pay costs.

motla68
04-03-11, 05:47 AM
For all who are interested one of Coresource Solution's methods works like the idea of the Privy Purse. Some people cannot wrap their head around the indemnification process of depositing receipts which causes and increase of assets in the Treasury thus one becomes indemnified of the expenses. Let look at it from another angle, when on increases the assets of a Privy Purse then one becomes indemnified of expenses, such as depositing a house into it then the Privy Purse takes care of the expense of things such as Leaky Roofs.

Read about the Privy Purse here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privy_Purse

The next article you will read here is about a Windsor Estate whom is still under Siege much like here in the states under Lincoln's Army was able to get their Leaky Roofs repaired:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/15/business/yourmoney/15windsor.html?pagewanted=all

If you take an interest in this to want to learn more about it, then PM me and I can give you some additional resource to research the subject.

Frederick Burrell
04-03-11, 07:02 AM
It is my contention that you matla are fake and fraud. You have posted experiences of others as your own. That is the reason you don't post paper work to support you so called successes. I challenge you to post the contents on the documents in the blue paper you say you presented in court. No need scan or image, just a verbal statement of what was written will do for now. Prove me wrong if you can. But you and I both know you can't. fB

David Merrill
04-03-11, 11:49 AM
It is my contention that you matla are fake and fraud. You have posted experiences of others as your own. That is the reason you don't post paper work to support you so called successes. I challenge you to post the contents on the documents in the blue paper you say you presented in court. No need scan or image, just a verbal statement of what was written will do for now. Prove me wrong if you can. But you and I both know you can't. fB


That is what I have been after. It does not exist, as indicated by Sheriff HARRISON - in private. It is just junk he is too polite to throw away and the city attorney cannot convince him to report it to the AG.


It is my contention that you matla are fake and fraud.

I figured you were referring to his own indictment:



For all who are interested one of Coresource Solution's methods works like the idea of the Privy Purse. Some people [David Merrill] cannot wrap their head around the indemnification process of depositing receipts which causes and increase of assets in the Treasury thus one becomes indemnified of the expenses. Let look at it from another angle, when on increases the assets of a Privy Purse then one becomes indemnified of expenses, such as depositing a house into it then the Privy Purse takes care of the expense of things such as Leaky Roofs.
Read about the Privy Purse here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privy_Purse

The next article you will read here is about a Windsor Estate whom is still under Siege much like here in the states under Lincoln's Army was able to get their Leaky Roofs repaired:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/15/business/yourmoney/15windsor.html?pagewanted=all

If you take an interest in this to want to learn more about it, then PM me and I can give you some additional resource to research the subject.

What he directs is indeed fraud - to direct the roofer to go get the coupon/bill paid from the Treasury. This is the Strawman Redemption all over again, by a different name. The Darrell FRECH HJR-192 scam is there too. This is nothing new. You can only acquire a Setoff from a coupon redemption (Anthony Joseph is helping the readers process this) from government agencies. The government is not going to send a roofer.

The simple fact is that I sit in Colorado in comfort typing because that money was spent (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_TWA_Collections.jpg), overcoming a Great Depression (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_FDRs_inaugural_declaration.jpg) by saving the Fed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZRfT63SwkU) [Secret Service is Treasury]. If you pull a coupon redemption on a government agency, they give you a setoff* to avoid disclosing that; that's all. You bought a lifestyle - voluntarily - a quality of life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulEMWj3sVA). The Secret Service is Treasury! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8&feature=fvw) Look at the driver's left hand. Watch him inspect, discern, draw, aim and fire (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImYmRjZTVjMDMtMzU3Mi00MjE5LWE0O DYtNmVkNDM0OTJiOTcy&hl=en). Use your layman sense of physics to determine which direction the slug striking JFK's head came from too. William GREER, the driver, was a Treasury Agent.

I have experienced this though, through suitors. If you send the roofer to the Treasury for redemption of the bill, presuming he trusted you to start work on your credit, he will get a letter back saying, Sorry, the Treasury cannot help you with this debt.

Whether Motla68 is intentionally misdirecting readers here or not is as yet unclear to me. I can say this much with certainty. He keeps trying to draw readers here off to other places by link while it would be a lot more convincing if he just showed us here. If he could convince fB here for example, he would get a lot further at convincing me!


Regards,

David Merrill.


* Misunderstanding at the time, I tried to set up an account for parking tickets in advance and the DA prosecuted me for forgery - that the POMC (Public Office Money Certificate) was shaped too much like a check.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9008/pomc.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3385/letterofcredit1.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4481/letterofcredit2.jpg


The prosecution failed and instead I prosecuted the DA (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImMmIzMDdiNmUtMzY2Yy00MzgzLTkxY TEtNzZmZjU1MmJkYTdl&hl=en). He cleared out his desk the next morning.


P.S. It is not past me Monday, to call Sheriff HARRISON and ask him to please email me a copy.

motla68
04-03-11, 01:32 PM
I challenge you to post the contents on the documents in the blue paper you say you presented in court. No need scan or image, just a verbal statement of what was written will do for now. Prove me wrong if you can. But you and I both know you can't. fB

I did and you missed it, even was on this forum so your challenge is mute:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?166-Deposit-Your-Pledge-Into-a-Bank-and-Freely-Elect-to-be-Bankrupt-and-Insolvent&p=1256&viewfull=1#post1256

David Merrill
04-03-11, 01:44 PM
I did and you missed it, even was on this forum so your challenge is mute:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?166-Deposit-Your-Pledge-Into-a-Bank-and-Freely-Elect-to-be-Bankrupt-and-Insolvent&p=1256&viewfull=1#post1256

I don't feel like I am challenging you. You have made an assertion and you have the chance to back it up. You say you can cover a roofing bill by pledging the home into the Treasury as your private purse? Show us the Treasury cutting the check to the roofer, who was stupid enough to roof your home on your word btw.


I have heard echo from a couple people who do not believe in Private Law, but we do it all the time, but break it as well. Someone shares with you an amicable agreement in private, now that is law, somehow in your dealing with each other you cannot not agree on a particular thing so you bring it to a third party, you could have chose one man in confidence as a mediator in private, BUT you bring it into a Public Court instead. When private matters are brought into the public it is telling the court that you are not competent enough to settle this in private so now you are here and have to deal with our rules of how this will turnout.

I always insist on handling things in the private first and I let them (the DA and court know it), before coming down to meet the appointment of summons I announce my visit and for what purpose I am there by notice through the mail, then when I arrive it is just then a simple matter of doing what I said i was going to do in asking them to settle honorably " in private " before it is brought into public where they could be exposed to public scrutiny as well as i. If you really operate as a peaceful inhabitant and have this intent, things go much more smoothly.
So none of this has to do with public court room rules or procedures, it is a private amicable
agreement settled in private for some ticket a dumb ass cop made a public matter to put it bluntly.

PRIVATE. Not general, as a private act of the legislature; not in office;
as, a private person, as well as an officer, may arrest a felon; individual,
as your private interest; not public, as a private way, a private nuisance.
- 1856 Bouviers Dictionary

I cannot show you what i had wrapped in that paper, but I can tell you about it again.

- Robin-egg blue paper, wrapped 4 fold.

- Inside what was wrapped:

1. printout from online showing the certified mail previously delivered by notice of my visit and purpose for me being there.

2. copy of presentment (ticket) that had CS language written upon it that was sent in with the notice by certified mail.

3. copy of instrument printed out from the DMV that the vehicle was registered with the state.
( nothing i wrote on it)

4. copy of Birth Certificate

- All 4 sheets were stapled together.

The CS language written on the presentment is mentioned several times in the audio files on our talkshoe group, go there to hear "why" you would put this on the presentment.

Does this help any at all? If not then I guess we are done.

I have highlighted in red what I want to see and be able to read. Redact the personal information if you want. I usually do. I am not missing anything Motla68! I really think I am catching it all here. You are interesting but while you arrogantly claim that you used to be where I am at now, I think it far more likely the other way around.



Regards,

David Merrill.

Frederick Burrell
04-03-11, 02:09 PM
Ok motla you have come this far now its time put up the proof. I want to see it also. That is virtually the same thing another person said on an audio. I have heard you speak and I heard this guy and you are not the same person. fB

motla68
04-03-11, 02:20 PM
That is what I have been after. It does not exist, as indicated by Sheriff HARRISON - in private. It is just junk he is too polite to throw away and the city attorney cannot convince him to report it to the AG.


It is my contention that you matla are fake and fraud.

I figured you were referring to his own indictment:




What he directs is indeed fraud - to direct the roofer to go get the coupon/bill paid from the Treasury. This is the Strawman Redemption all over again, by a different name. The Darrell FRECH HJR-192 scam is there too. This is nothing new. You can only acquire a Setoff from a coupon redemption (Anthony Joseph is helping the readers process this) from government agencies. The government is not going to send a roofer.

The simple fact is that I sit in Colorado in comfort typing because that money was spent (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_TWA_Collections.jpg), overcoming a Great Depression (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_FDRs_inaugural_declaration.jpg) by saving the Fed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZRfT63SwkU) [Secret Service is Treasury]. If you pull a coupon redemption on a government agency, they give you a setoff* to avoid disclosing that; that's all. You bought a lifestyle - voluntarily - a quality of life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulEMWj3sVA). The Secret Service is Treasury! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8&feature=fvw) Look at the driver's left hand. Watch him inspect, discern, draw, aim and fire (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImYmRjZTVjMDMtMzU3Mi00MjE5LWE0O DYtNmVkNDM0OTJiOTcy&hl=en). Use your layman sense of physics to determine which direction the slug striking JFK's head came from too. William GREER, the driver, was a Treasury Agent.

I have experienced this though, through suitors. If you send the roofer to the Treasury for redemption of the bill, presuming he trusted you to start work on your credit, he will get a letter back saying, Sorry, the Treasury cannot help you with this debt.

Whether Motla68 is intentionally misdirecting readers here or not is as yet unclear to me. I can say this much with certainty. He keeps trying to draw readers here off to other places by link while it would be a lot more convincing if he just showed us here. If he could convince fB here for example, he would get a lot further at convincing me!


Regards,

David Merrill.


* Misunderstanding at the time, I tried to set up an account for parking tickets in advance and the DA prosecuted me for forgery - that the POMC (Public Office Money Certificate) was shaped too much like a check.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9008/pomc.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3385/letterofcredit1.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4481/letterofcredit2.jpg


The prosecution failed and instead I prosecuted the DA (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImMmIzMDdiNmUtMzY2Yy00MzgzLTkxY TEtNzZmZjU1MmJkYTdl&hl=en). He cleared out his desk the next morning.


P.S. It is not past me Monday, to call Sheriff HARRISON and ask him to please email me a copy.

Now your editing my posts in your quotes to make it look like it is what i typed, who be fraudulent now?
Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

You also are going to attempt to interfere in something that was private? That in which I shared with you privately is a sample, names have been changed in it so I doubt he is going to know what you are even talking about because you do not have the names that were on the original. If he respects the privacy of his agreements is another reason he may not give you anything.

Seems you have a history in interfering in others private business, but are clueless to what they are trying to tell you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGCY3HabGz0

I do not go into those courts any more, at least not past the check in counter. Even settled a case through certified mail so I would not have to travel there in another state, that is testimony and not I am not going to show the paperwork for it, because most of it was not mine, it belonged to the court.

Note that the post says " if someone is interested " , I am not holding a gun to some ones head who are you to keep them in?

Call matla fake and fraud, whatever makes you happy, these are just labels you give because I do not give you all the red carpet treatment and cut the meat for you so you can chew it. I do not serve knowledge up for you on a silver platter therefore I am a fake and fraud? for someone who boasts about knowing court room procedure, would have to say that I am disappointed.

motla68
04-03-11, 02:30 PM
No need scan or image, just a verbal statement of what was written will do for now. Prove me wrong if you can. But you and I both know you can't. fB


Ok motla you have come this far now its time put up the proof. I want to see it also. That is virtually the same thing another person said on an audio. I have heard you speak and I heard this guy and you are not the same person. fB

We are just changing up the rules as we go along here I guess? Even after I told you that I cannot show you the actual documents because they were private you still persist, I assume your in the same contention as David that you do not believe in Private law, but this is not my contention and belief so still not going to show the actual documents. I respect others privacy, do you not?

motla68
04-03-11, 02:49 PM
I don't feel like I am challenging you. You have made an assertion and you have the chance to back it up. You say you can cover a roofing bill by pledging the home into the Treasury as your private purse? Show us the Treasury cutting the check to the roofer, who was stupid enough to roof your home on your word btw.

I have highlighted in red what I want to see and be able to read. Redact the personal information if you want. I usually do. I am not missing anything Motla68! I really think I am catching it all here. You are interesting but while you arrogantly claim that you used to be where I am at now, I think it far more likely the other way around.


I gave no accusation that I personally had a roof fixed, go back and read it again, it was just a example, an article that was not on me. Just where do you think money goes when you pay taxes anyway?

CS language written upon it = "This account name and number is property of the United States Of America, please deposit to the owner care of Treasury of of the United States of America. Thank you." Below this was " Authorized Signatory; X per: NAME OF PERSON " below that wrote the words " Persona Non Grata ".
The letter X is a name which can be found in a lot of dictionaries, this is the Marque of the ancients. Some recognize this as a time when people could not write they would just put their marque.
Persona Non Grata reads by definition as an unwanted person and for our own definition is Jurisdiction Unknown, why would we use this? see this verse:
Mat 22:16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men.

There is several versus in the bible that say " regardest not the person " so this we do.

Frederick Burrell
04-03-11, 02:55 PM
Operative word in my statement "for now"

Originally Posted by Frederick Burrell post #31
No need scan or image, just a verbal statement of what was written will do for now. Prove me wrong if you can. But you and I both know you can't. fB

No change. Now is past in the present I want to see the paper work, or it didn't happen at least for you. Funny how all your paper works gets miss placed somehow or another. fB

motla68
04-03-11, 03:29 PM
Funny how all your paper works gets miss placed somehow or another. fB

Nope, mostly just that I keep private in the private and public I can show or provide a link to it.

David Merrill
04-03-11, 03:35 PM
That in which I shared with you privately is a sample, names have been changed in it so I doubt he is going to know what you are even talking about because you do not have the names that were on the original. If he respects the privacy of his agreements is another reason he may not give you anything.

I think it would be better to get the original from Sheriff HARRISON, you being like this. Now you are calling me a fraud!

You wrote that the Coresource Solution will pay the roofer and now you are calling me a fraud for indicting you with your own words?

You did not give me anything in private. That does not exist. If I read it, then I will have a bunch of secret information in my head and will constantly be trying to get you to divulge what I already have in my head for everybody here. I never agreed to keep it private. You sent it to me with an advisement that it is private/secret. That is why I did not read it. I did save it to disk adding the word "secret" after the file name so that I do not pull it in a year forgetting what it is. So I am under no obligation to keep it from the members here Motla68; you sent that to me for my use, without me even requesting it.

You are useful as far as I am concerned. You bring a lot of proof out of me with your nonsense. I was not going to mention that you have sent me a template of the Sheriff Agreement you sent to Sheriff HARRISON. You did. When you refuse to disclose it I probably will, provided Sheriff HARRISON is reluctant to send me the original.



Call matla fake and fraud, whatever makes you happy, these are just labels you give because I do not give you all the red carpet treatment and cut the meat for you so you can chew it. I do not serve knowledge up for you on a silver platter therefore I am a fake and fraud? for someone who boasts about knowing court room procedure, would have to say that I am disappointed.

You have indicted yourself for fraud, telling people they can use the Coresource Solution to pay the roofer.

David Merrill
04-03-11, 03:45 PM
We are just changing up the rules as we go along here I guess? Even after I told you that I cannot show you the actual documents because they were private you still persist, I assume your in the same contention as David that you do not believe in Private law, but this is not my contention and belief so still not going to show the actual documents. I respect others privacy, do you not?

It is obvious that there is something very wrong with your teachings. For one thing you are unwilling to teach.


Nope, mostly just that I keep private in the private and public I can show or provide a link to it.

From my perspective you are wasting the readers' time here. I suggest you keep it to your own threads. I don't like you trying to get members from here spending time with your theories - you said you can get a roofer paid from the Treasury with the Coresource Solution. I will give you some time to show your theory works here before I produce at least one letter from the Treasury in response to a service provider (roofer for example) trying to collect on such instructions.

motla68
04-03-11, 04:25 PM
Back in 2005 I sent in a letter requesting any evidence the state had interest in the vehicle that was registered, here is what they sent me back:

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I do not have a good scanner so I took a picture on a old digital camera I have which I use for copying documents. The top is cut off so as to get in close enough so that you all can read the text. MJ has seen this document too, but without the editing and can probably testify to it's authenticity.

David Merrill
04-03-11, 04:34 PM
Back in 2005 I sent in a letter requesting any evidence the state had interest in the vehicle that was registered, here is what they sent me back:

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I do not have a good scanner so I took a picture on a old digital camera I have which I use for copying documents. The top is cut off so as to get in close enough so that you all can read the text. MJ has seen this document too, but without the editing and can probably testify to it's authenticity.

Sweet! The state is just a repository for registration. After two years they throw away the Bill of Lading. That same function can be exercised by operation of law through the district courts of the US too (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?174-Failure-to-State-a-Claim-for-which-Relief-can-be-Granted.).

motla68
04-03-11, 04:38 PM
I think it would be better to get the original from Sheriff HARRISON, you being like this. Now you are calling me a fraud!

You wrote that the Coresource Solution will pay the roofer and now you are calling me a fraud for indicting you with your own words?

You did not give me anything in private. That does not exist. If I read it, then I will have a bunch of secret information in my head and will constantly be trying to get you to divulge what I already have in my head for everybody here. I never agreed to keep it private. You sent it to me with an advisement that it is private/secret. That is why I did not read it. I did save it to disk adding the word "secret" after the file name so that I do not pull it in a year forgetting what it is. So I am under no obligation to keep it from the members here Motla68; you sent that to me for my use, without me even requesting it.

You are useful as far as I am concerned. You bring a lot of proof out of me with your nonsense. I was not going to mention that you have sent me a template of the Sheriff Agreement you sent to Sheriff HARRISON. You did. When you refuse to disclose it I probably will, provided Sheriff HARRISON is reluctant to send me the original.


You have indicted yourself for fraud, telling people they can use the Coresource Solution to pay the roofer.

Here is the original post, do you see the words David Merrill in it as you so conveniently edited in, or does anybody?


For all who are interested one of Coresource Solution's methods works like the idea of the Privy Purse. Some people cannot wrap their head around the indemnification process of depositing receipts which causes and increase of assets in the Treasury thus one becomes indemnified of the expenses. Let look at it from another angle, when on increases the assets of a Privy Purse then one becomes indemnified of expenses, such as depositing a house into it then the Privy Purse takes care of the expense of things such as Leaky Roofs.

Read about the Privy Purse here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privy_Purse

The next article you will read here is about a Windsor Estate whom is still under Siege much like here in the states under Lincoln's Army was able to get their Leaky Roofs repaired:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/15/business/yourmoney/15windsor.html?pagewanted=all

If you take an interest in this to want to learn more about it, then PM me and I can give you some additional resource to research the subject.

Also Check out where it first mentions Privy Purse, it says LIKE the idea of Privy Purse.

The evidence on fraud speaks for itself, here much like what happened in court you constructed an argument to create controversy.

motla68
04-03-11, 04:48 PM
Sweet! The state is just a repository for registration. After two years they throw away the Bill of Lading. That same function can be exercised by operation of law through the district courts of the US too (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?174-Failure-to-State-a-Claim-for-which-Relief-can-be-Granted.).

Well look at that, we finally agree on something and the world did not come to an end, no FBI, CIA, USA breaking down me door.

Do you think this is just ONE of the reasons why I can call the shots when dealing with traffic tickets? It is not to be sarcastic, it is simply stating the obvious to me anyway. An expression, so if you want to hold that against me so be it.

David Merrill
04-03-11, 05:00 PM
Here is the original post, do you see the words David Merrill in it as you so conveniently edited in, or does anybody?



Also Check out where it first mentions Privy Purse, it says LIKE the idea of Privy Purse.

The evidence on fraud speaks for itself, here much like what happened in court you constructed an argument to create controversy.

This is refreshing then that some of the other members consider you a fake and fraud, and brought this up first. Here is the post Motla is speaking of:


http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=214&d=1301849886



I apologize to any of you if you interpreted that in the same light as Motla has chosen to. The brackets and red font indicate, in my opinion that Motla was directing the comment about not wrapping my mind around something to me.



http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=215&d=1301849887

By focusing on the [David Merrill] insertion Motla is in my opinion trying to misdirect you away from the fraudulent assertion he made. It reads plainly that the Coresource Solution offers to pay for a roof by treating the Treasury under the definition of privy purse.

Anthony Joseph
04-03-11, 05:01 PM
Well look at that, we finally agree on something and the world did not come to an end, no FBI, CIA, USA breaking down me door.

Do you think this is just ONE of the reasons why I can call the shots when dealing with traffic tickets? It is not to be sarcastic, it is simply stating the obvious to me anyway. An expression, so if you want to hold that against me so be it.

It is not that we question your right and ability to "call the shots" when dealing with traffic tickets, it's that you will not FULLY disclose the claimed successful manner/method in which you do this. The R4C method and proper recordation of a court of competent jurisdiction has been FULLY disclosed here with nothing remaining private or secret other than sensitive "personal information" (sanitized copies).

David Merrill
04-03-11, 05:14 PM
Well look at that, we finally agree on something and the world did not come to an end, no FBI, CIA, USA breaking down me door.

Do you think this is just ONE of the reasons why I can call the shots when dealing with traffic tickets? It is not to be sarcastic, it is simply stating the obvious to me anyway. An expression, so if you want to hold that against me so be it.

You have turned on Coresource Solution then. The same thing (http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7078/birthcertnobond.jpg), said about birth certificates keeps stifling your theories, as I understand them. And if I misunderstand them, that is most certainly your fault, not mine. I am most certainly smart enough to learn from a teacher who is in the very least concerned about teaching.



It is not that we question your right and ability to "call the shots" when dealing with traffic tickets, it's that you will not FULLY disclose the claimed successful manner/method in which you do this. The R4C method and proper recordation of a court of competent jurisdiction has been FULLY disclosed here with nothing remaining private or secret other than sensitive "personal information" (sanitized copies).

Maybe he does that so he can turn on his own assertions?

He has a difficult time wrapping his head around the fact he has no successes in traffic court. It is insulting to my/our/suitors competence that he expects us to believe him and then run off and do our own due diligence, when he could just have said more than he has in 200 posts in about 8 by using the graphic attachment capabilities provided by StSC and the Internet.

He sent me the Sheriff Agreement template along in secret through a suitor who knows us both and expects that I agreed to keep it secret? Wrong. It is nothing to me because it is a secret and we are all trying to learn here. He is insulting, to consider us so incompetent that we would think he has any traffic successes just because he says so!


Regards,

David Merrill.

Frederick Burrell
04-03-11, 05:33 PM
Funny in their return letter they did not mention the Federal lien held on the vehicle. Does that mean there is none or are they just not talking about it.

For clarification. Referring to lien placed on the vehicle, that some have talked about when the car was purchase with FRN's or the lien the IRS notifies you of when they want to posses your car. The lien as surety for the national debt. fB

David Merrill
04-03-11, 05:43 PM
Funny in their return letter they did not mention the Federal lien held on the vehicle. Does that mean there is none or are they just not talking about it.

For clarification. Referring to lien placed on the vehicle, that some have talked about when the car was purchase with FRN's or the lien the IRS notifies you of when they want to posses your car. The lien as surety for the national debt. fB


That is probably because the State would not be making a claim for the Treasury/IRS anyway. The first lien would only be brought up after the taxpayer loses a dispute because it is an Agreed by the endorsement signatures on the paychecks. Therefore if the taxpayer already knows about the first lien by the Treasury through the endorsement, it is unlikely to be brought up by the state - or even the Treasury until the Notice of Lien. On the notice of lien, there is obviously an already perfected lien.

motla68
04-03-11, 05:55 PM
Funny in their return letter they did not mention the Federal lien held on the vehicle. Does that mean there is none or are they just not talking about it.

For clarification. Referring to lien placed on the vehicle, that some have talked about when the car was purchase with FRN's or the lien the IRS notifies you of when they want to posses your car. The lien as surety for the national debt. fB

What part of " free of ANY lien" do you not understand? Anything tried to discredit my work, is that your intent? Why so vindictive?

Frederick Burrell
04-03-11, 06:39 PM
What part of " free of ANY lien" do you not understand? Anything tried to discredit my work, is that your intent? Why so vindictive?

Note trying to discredit your work. Just a question that comes up in regard to IRS tax liens.

When the IRS liens something. The lien is already in place. For instance the IRS when placing a lien or so we call it on a property because of unpaid taxes. They do not go to court to get a lien. They just notify of the lien. It was already in place and all they did was notify you of the existing lien. They can do the same with your car. So their must be an unspoken lien already in place because they do not take you to court to get a lien. It already existed. You now receive notice of the lien and they ten confiscate your property. Sorry if you thought this was trying to discredit your work.

It was not my intention. Only trying to receive an honest answer to an honest question. fB

motla68
04-03-11, 06:50 PM
Note trying to discredit your work. Just a question that comes up in regard to IRS tax liens.

When the IRS liens something. The lien is already in place. For instance the IRS when placing a lien or so we call it on a property because of unpaid taxes. They do not go to court to get a lien. They just notify of the lien. It was already in place and all they did was notify you of the existing lien. They can do the same with your car. So their must be an unspoken lien already in place because they do not take you to court to get a lien. It already existed. You now receive notice of the lien and they ten confiscate your property. Sorry if you thought this was trying to discredit your work.

It was not my intention. Only trying to receive an honest answer to an honest question. fB

I am not saying your wrong here about a Federal Lien which may exist somewhere that I have not been notified as of yet, but how could I prove it if it is uknown at this time?

Another reason to consider why not confiscated yet is because I returned the receipt back to the owner of the money that I used to get the vehicle in the first place.

Frederick Burrell
04-03-11, 07:04 PM
I was not directing the question at your particular case. It was meant to be a general question, although it was based on the info on the letter from the DMV. I was not asking you to prove or disprove the existence of the lien. Sorry if it sounded that way.

I was just trying to figure out.

1. perhaps the existence of a lien is a myth or

2. they don't want to mention it or don't know about it...... at least the people that sent you the letter.

The evidence for #2 is the fact that when seizing a car or property they do not take you to court to get the lien, which could imply that the lien already existed or there some law in place that doesn't require the IRS to take you to court. Just trying to do this jig saw puzzle before it rains anymore. fB

motla68
04-03-11, 07:15 PM
Below attached is image taken of the container used and the cargo wrapped in robin-egg blue paper that was returned to me at the courthouse when it was presented to them.

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David Merrill
04-03-11, 08:14 PM
I was not directing the question at your particular case. It was meant to be a general question, although it was based on the info on the letter from the DMV. I was not asking you to prove or disprove the existence of the lien. Sorry if it sounded that way.

I was just trying to figure out.

1. perhaps the existence of a lien is a myth or

2. they don't want to mention it or don't know about it...... at least the people that sent you the letter.

The evidence for #2 is the fact that when seizing a car or property they do not take you to court to get the lien, which could imply that the lien already existed or there some law in place that doesn't require the IRS to take you to court. Just trying to do this jig saw puzzle before it rains anymore. fB

The State would not know unless there was a Notice of Lien with the Secretary of State or any County clerk and recorder. Look here (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uniform/vol7.html#fedln). Even the IRS will not tell you about the lien in so many words because you are the one forming it by endorsement.

Richard Earl
04-03-11, 08:37 PM
If I reading that link correctly (for Illinois) and tying together the 12 USC 411... so... the IRS can just publish a Notice of Lien with the county and then seize the property "for obligations payable to the United States".

Michael Joseph
04-03-11, 08:59 PM
If I reading that link correctly (for Illinois) and tying together the 12 USC 411... so... the IRS can just publish a Notice of Lien with the county and then seize the property "for obligations payable to the United States".

property = Right of Use. The Use of the Intangible Money leads to Resulting Trust and First Lien of all PROPERTY. So, then Yes, the IRS can sieze Property because the IRS would be with the Highest Claim due to operation of Trust Law.

David Merrill
04-03-11, 09:54 PM
property = Right of Use. The Use of the Intangible Money leads to Resulting Trust and First Lien of all PROPERTY. So, then Yes, the IRS can sieze Property because the IRS would be with the Highest Claim due to operation of Trust Law.

In the IRS Code it gets even clearer. I think it is around the §6103 or §6300s area, the purpose of the Notice of Lien is to notify third parties that there (already) exists a lien. The notice of the lien is not a part of perfecting the lien necessarily; however it is a necessary part of perfecting enforcement of the lien.

motla68
04-03-11, 11:55 PM
Just who owns the U.S. National Debt



The Bush administration talks about spending a million here and a billion there adding up to trillions for the war. Since the country is so far in debt, where is all this money they are talking about spending, coming from? I know it is borrowed, but from whom?
-- Dick, Howard City, Mich.

The money is borrowed from buyers of Treasury securities -- which are basically a big batch of IOUs that are auctioned off every three months. As the auction date approaches, the Treasury figures out how much it will need to pay off old debt and cover the government’s latest round of overspending.

When the auction day comes, buyers submit bids in the form of the interest rate they’re willing to accept. You can choose to make a competitive bid (you ask for a specific rate) or a non-competitive bid (you agree to accept the average rate of other winning bids.) When all the bids are in, the Treasury starts at the bottom, taking the lowest bids until it has collected enough money to cover that round of borrowing.

The money flows in from all over the place: from individual investors and corporations, pension funds and governments, both in the U.S. and around the world. Basically, anyone with a large amount of cash looking for a safe place to put it is a good candidate for holding U.S. Treasury debt. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17424874/

Since you say IRS Section says Notice is to go out to "Third Parties" could it be possible that you are the third party? We use someone else's money they have a vested interest in and then do not return the receipts to the trustees, therefore one is taxed every time they make a purchase with other peoples money. Is any of the signatures on them FRNS yours?

David Merrill
04-04-11, 12:12 AM
Just who owns the U.S. National Debt



Since you say IRS Section says Notice is to go out to "Third Parties" could it be possible that you are the third party? We use someone else's money they have a vested interest in and then do not return the receipts to the trustees, therefore one is taxed every time they make a purchase with other peoples money. Is any of the signatures on them FRNS yours?

Typically you have been notified in the mail - usually starting with a 90-Day Letter. The first lien sits latent - all you have is a discharge of the debt by private credit from the Fed. The lien goes into effect when you lose the dispute over a tax liability.



http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/83/stanekvwhite3.jpg

motla68
04-04-11, 04:38 AM
Right from the JAG office of the Army:

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Lieber Code of 1863, Executive Order No. 100

22. Nevertheless, as civilization has advanced during the last centuries, so has likewise steadily advanced, especially in war on land, the distinction between the private individual belonging to a hostile country and the hostile country itself, with its men in arms. The principle has been more and more acknowledged that the unarmed citizen is to be spared in person, property, and honor as much as the exigencies of war will admit. <-- as related to image #2 at the bottom of the page.

38. Private property, unless forfeited by crimes or by offenses of the owner, can be seized only by way of military necessity, for the support or other benefit of the Army or of the United States. If the owner has not fled, the commanding officer will cause receipts to be given, which may serve the spoliated owner to obtain indemnity.

40. There exists no law or body of authoritative rules of action between hostile armies, except that branch of the law of nature and nations which is called the law and usages of war on land.

From a Brochure for Lackland Air Force Base stated:

Traffic Management and Accident Investigations Course
This course, taught by the 324th Training Squadron,
consists of 17 school days (133 course hours) designed
to teach multiservice military law enforcement personnel
and occasionally local police officers. This course is not
an entry-level course, but intermediate-level accident
investigation training designed to bring the student’s
abilities nearly to an advanced level within 17 days. After
graduation, students are well prepared for most accident
investigations and the next level of instruction at other
advanced courses. The facility at Lackland has two
classrooms: one with large drafting tables for plenty of
space for the diagramming (drawing a sketch of the
accident scene) exercises and another equipped with
computers for report writing and diagramming exercises.