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doug555
04-23-14, 11:51 PM
Watch this Youtube 3/18/2014 video series (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4CYdnZAqw&list=PLziUK8S8VKdpsKB5wBmSwZtpgzpEJny0v) by Boris on the “Usufruct Surrender” remedy. Boris's other videos are posted here (http://www.iamsomedude.com/video.html).

Here are his related UCC-1 (http://www.floridaucc.com/UCCWEB/SearchResultsDetail.aspx?sst=&sov=0&sot=Filed%20Compact%20Debtor%20Name%20List&st=erickson+baby&fn=&rn=245946&ii=Y&ft=&epn=) and UCC-3 (http://www.floridaucc.com/UCCWEB/FilingHistory.aspx?sst=&sov=5&sot=Filed/Lapsed%20Actual%20Debtor%20Name%20List&st=Boris+Petkoff+Inferno%2c+Corp&fn=201400717971&rn=497227&ii=Y&ft=&epn=) filings. Click on the Document Number links at bottom of the page.

See my new website about this at: http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/

I believe if used with the Lawful Money Remedy that the Usufruct Surrender Remedy would very effective....

New video 6/9/14: Completing the Usufruct - Video 6/9/14 - Jim Hebin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lq4QVg1E5E)

Latest results with Boris and Dee - 8/15/14: A light: the first of many to come (http://www.iamsomedude.com/audio/2014_08_15_10_37_41.mp3)

See this post (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1146-Usufruct-Surrender-Remedy&p=13696&viewfull=1#post13696) for an "excellent summation" of this approach.

See this book on usufruct (http://books.google.com/books?id=5HgMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA402&lpg=PA402&dq=usufruct+surrender+remedy&source=bl&ots=56ecvQ0X6q&sig=zod9VDs2PKx0GsPzuXgWiryTvSg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j2sUVPjRMrOSsQTX8YKwBw&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=usufruct%20surrender%20remedy&f=false) in Roman Law for good historical background information on this.

Also notice how ICRC recognizes the international application of the "rules of usufruct" at this link (https://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule51_sectionb).

But given the INITIAL CAUSE giving rise to the "rules of usufruct" construct in international affairs, the ultimate remedy for deliverance has to be the removal of that INITIAL CAUSE of "military rule" over our nation. That ultimate remedy is addressed at this page (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/military-rule.html).

Without the removal of that INITIAL CAUSE of our national captivity that continues to this day under the modern-day "Assyrians", the usufruct surrender remedy as presented to-date will ultimately fail, IMO.

This petition (http://pentecostnation.wordpress.com/worldwide-petition-for-divine-intervention/) is the place to start the ultimate and lasting remedy.

ag maniac
04-24-14, 05:16 PM
Might I also add THIS UCC-1 reference (http://www.floridaucc.com/UCCWEB/SearchResultsDetail.aspx?sst=&sov=0&sot=Filed%20Compact%20Debtor%20Name%20List&st=erickson+baby&fn=&rn=246563&ii=Y&ft=&epn=).....

Michael Joseph
04-24-14, 09:48 PM
I am reminded instantly of Matthew 4:9

You might consider what worship means to God. It is service which is definition of Love. You might even say HOMAGE.

Making a USE of a UCC which RESIDES within a LAW CLOSE such that the serpent eats his own tail is in my opinion a WASTE of energy.

Express Thyself in Church and State. Else bow to Rome doing business as the United States - The Beast and its Image.

I find that a Grantor might easily revoke the grant. I have no trust in the Sons of Cain or their inventions.

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My son is to inherit under the Common Law in primogeniture as such he is the infant due to inherit my Estate in future benefit. The Kingdom is in Abeyance.

From HODGES Law Dictionary - Old School is much better than the new fool [Blacks]. ABEYANCE [see Attachment]

My LIFE is placed in TRUST in Yehoshuah. I shall be quickened with Yehoshuah and my mortal members shall be made alive. Until then the Kingdom remains in Abeyance. Which is to say in Fee.

If I am dead in Christ [in Baptism], then I am not subject to any law. For what law can operate upon a dead man? My life is in the Secret Place of El Elyon awaiting its redemption in Christ.

Therefore my claim is in the name, authority, character and office of Yehoshuah - for I am no longer a FEMME SOLE but a FEMME COVERT hidden in Christ. Therefore I cannot contract. And therefore I have no liability.

But if I insist on being in Rebellion, then I am a Trustee de son Tort BECAUSE while claiming to be in Christ I AM A LIAR because if a woman is married she cannot contract without the permission of her husband. Therefore her life is her husbands and he holds her in COVERTURE. Which means He is liable for her.

If you desire to speak to my wife, you must speak to me first.

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You cannot have it both ways. There are only TWO trusts - in Baal or in Christ.

1Ki 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.


It is simple: "Do you make a claim in God?" Now the flesh that I occupy within belongs to Yehovah. All souls belong to Yehovah [Ezekiel 18:4] the spirit granted to me belongs to Yehovah [Ecc 12:6-7]. I am merely a steward. I can either WASTE or BUILD - my choice. For Yehovah is the Householder or the Head of House unto El Elyon.

Now then will I give Homage to the created or the Creator? my choice. All the Earth belongs to the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth [Gen 1:1]. Therefore, I find John the Baptist without the city.

That BC is a TRUST RECEIPT - evidences certain accounts held in Trust by a higher power. Now if in The Adam sin came into the world are we all subject to sin or does the law just notice us of the sin that is already existent? Therefore, if we were all subject to the inheritance of the estate of Sin in Adam, then pray tell, what gave the Settlors of the Trust called United States the authority to make such a Declaration?

If all are under sin and the wages of sin is death, then how can a dead man declare himself? Is he not in bondage too? But alas the Settlors did Declare themselves and created a THING UNDER Death. Which is to say subject to death. Notice the kings Serpent Crosier's.

For the dragon gave his power unto the Beast [systems] - but I find and trust that my King [again that is a Closed Law boundary] overcame death - I trust and hope - in that which I cannot prove. Therefore to the wise I am a fool. So be it.

I made not this flesh - I think not about my next breath - and yet it is.


Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Heb 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Michael ben Ha Elohim am I. To say otherwise is to grant Authority to a man over me. I keep the Sabbath and not Sunday - WHY - because it is my acknowledgment of the Supreme Authority in this Universe and without this Universe. For God is not the Universe!

Elohim created the Universe.

On one hand many claim to be a Femme Covert - giving Lip Service to Jesus Christ. But in their deeds they show themselves to be a Femme Sole which is to be in Rebellion to the Husbandman.

This is EXACTLY the choice before The Adam - and he found out that Actions are what count. In his rebellion - he was put without the King's City and two guards keep the path [Cheribum]. But that doctrine sounds so good. And oh how Eve was beguiled [Soul].

The Kingdom was LET out to HUSBANDMEN and when the Grantor/Settlor/Trustor/Creator/ looked for a return in the Fruits He sent his Servants and the Trustees killed them all. He then sent the Heir and they killed him too. Therefore there is none to inherit and the Kingdom remains in Abeyance - Until the Heir returns.

For if the Heir holds my life in Trust, then upon His return I shall be quickened in Him.

Col 3:3 For ye died, and your life has been laid up in store with Christ in God.

Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall be manifested, then shall ye also be manifested with Him in glory.

Therefore I am dead in Christ and subject to no Law.

Now the gainsayer scoffs in his luxury - not wanted to subject the flesh to desires unfulfilled in lust, in greed in fear. And as such the gainsayer cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. For the Kings and Queens have blinded him/her because they refuse to see the truth and instead believe a lie.

We have Choice - and to be in the carnal mind set is to be opposed to God. It appears the Sons of Cain have taught us all how to be good little accountants, book-keepers, lawyers, etc. Alas we are removed from the Land and her fruits.

I decree a Law this day: will you follow it? Why not, you follow all other laws decreed by other men? Why not follow me too? Why is it okay to follow some men and others it is not? Consider carefully before you respond.

About ten years ago Jay Vincent and I explored this Usufruct and if you take it apart carefully you will notice the term ENJOY, PROPERTY, VESTED, IN: who established such terms : who constructed the Foundation such that the Builders might build? : Did the Builders deny the Capstone? : And yet you would place your trust in the Builders? : All for the sake of the flesh, we sell ourselves to those who HATE us - just to alleviate our fears and satiate our lusts.

Study the Godhead and you shall see in Mirror - look again - it is all there.

Man in NO WAY shape or FORM is in the Image of the Ever living God. There was only TWO men ever fashioned in that Image. That being The Adam and The 2nd Adam. However the First Adam was made subject to VANITY and I would be very careful about saying the Ever Living is subject to Vanity.

The First Adam had surgery. And a divorce was made within - the Divorce of the Soul [her] and the Spirit [him]. Now EVERY man [kind] today IF they placed their LIFE in trust with Yehoshuah, then they are being TRANSFORMED and CONFORMED into the Image of El Elyon.

To say we are in that Image is to say we are Glorified Beings - Tranfigured covered with the Seven Spirits of El Elyon. Therefore I find mankind in Vanity - in Death. Which is to say I die to the flesh in Christ. My LIFE is hidden in Christ. Therefore I am subject to the Orders of and the Rule of my Fiance. As I seek to prepare myself to qualify to be one who might be selected as His bride.

For what lawyer knows not the Law? And what priest knows not the law? Wife/Priest/King in Christ. If you cannot be righteous in the unholy mammon, how will you be trusted with the true riches?

There is no middle ground - you either believe or you don't. If so get out of the Boat and walk on the water. If not well submit and obey.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye present yourselves servants for obedience, ye are servants to him whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Has your Ruler given you a new name?

Dan 1:7 Unto whom the ruler of the eunuchs gave names [in token of subjection]: for he gave unto Daniel the name of Belteshazzar; and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; and to Mishael, of Meshach; and to Azariah, of Abed-nego.


When Nebuchadnezzar summoned Shadrach - Hananiah showed up and said I will not obey. The king sentenced Shadrach. For he has jurisdiction over his creation.

My daughter was telling me the other day in jest about how some so called Christians were telling her about paradise and that they would all be sitting around in complete bliss drinking margaritas on some beach. We just laughed. I asked her if she would be willing to make my margarita for me and deliver it to my cozy place in the sun.

Continued.....

Michael Joseph
04-24-14, 09:48 PM
Continuing...

The Usufruct Cult is what I call them. This is absurdity. Atlas Shrugged 101. I am sure I make plenty of friends here - so be it. I left off of this folly years ago. For I find that Satan cannot offer me any Bargain.

Satan is a CREATED being. United States a CREATED THING.

Produce now the contract, trust or covenant whereby I am subject? That's easy says the respondent: You made a Use of our Creation.

Consider and Reflect on that last sentence in light of Gen 1:1.

We must needs be subject as we undertake in that which we did not Create!


Otherwise: Do you seek to kill me? Do you seek to do premeditated murder by your schemes? Do you claim that God granted you the entire Earth? If so, then my REFUGE is in God. Take it up with the Grantor.

ALL RIGHTS, TITLES and INTERESTS are in the Throne - He only Let [leased] the Kingdom to Trustees [For Hire]. The King expects Righteous Fruits. But he looked an all He sees is poisonous grapes! Poison of Asps!

If I would rely upon MY ESTATE to sustain me - I lose. I lose by my words and by my deeds! It is not mine! The USE is placed in TRUST.

For those in love with the usufruct mess - ponder on that one for a while. The USE is placed in TRUST. As in "to the Use of" or "in trust for" ....

Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, "If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

Joh 8:40 But now ye seek to kill Me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard from beside God: this did not Abraham.

Joh 8:41 Ye are doing the works of your father." Then said they to Him, We have not been begotten from fornication; we have one Father, even God.

Oh yes in deed - the Sons of Cain are about their father's work.

Psa 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the MOST HIGH Shall abide under the shadow of THE ALMIGHTY.

Psa 91:2 I will say of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress: My God; in Him will I confide.

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Have another cookie Neo - remember, you don't believe in any of this right?


Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
04-24-14, 10:40 PM
Are you LAWFULLY authorized to work WITHIN the United States?

Anthony Joseph
04-24-14, 10:50 PM
How is "Making use of a 'UCC'..." any different than making use of a 'USC'? [Title 12 U.S.C. §411]

David Merrill
04-24-14, 10:55 PM
I read about a Michael Joseph a moment ago - OF GOD - THE DECRYPTOR.

BEYOND KABBALAH; THE TEACHINGS THAT CANNOT BE TAUGHT by Joel David BAKST:


Footnote Page 23; 22. The "Decoder" - tzafnat Pa'aneach - lit., "Revealer of Hidden Matters" is the title Pharoah gave to Joseph upon appointing him viceroy.

allodial
04-24-14, 11:10 PM
Express Thyself in Church and State. Else bow to Rome doing business as the United States...
1613

Whether its related to this thread or not, it might be worth nothing the uncanny timing of 'Global events' between 1861 and 1870.

Dominion of Canada established - 1867 [There are those who suggest that Rome moved to Canada around this time]
U.S.A. Civil War - 1861 - 1870*


The Papal States were territories in the Italian peninsula under the sovereign direct rule of the pope, from the 700s until 1870. They were among the major states of Italy from roughly the eighth century until the Italian Peninsula was unified in 1861 by the Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia. At their zenith, they covered most of the modern Italian regions of Lazio (that includes most of Rome), Marche, Umbria and Romagna, as well as portions of Emilia. These holdings were considered to be a manifestation of the temporal power of the pope, as opposed to his ecclesiastical primacy. After 1861 the Papal States, reduced to Lazio, continued to exist until 1870. Between 1870 and 1929 the Pope had no physical territory at all. Eventually Italian fascist leader Benito Mussolini solved the crisis between modern Italy and the Vatican, and in 1929 the Vatican State was founded as the smallest of all nations.

Perhaps Rome is still just Rome and has endeavored to create a doppelganger with most every 'country'?

Its been found that there is more than one "Australia" [to the extent that alleged Australia government officials are choosing to remain silent rather than admit that officers of doppelganger Australian Government (a trading corporation?? ;) ) are impersonating government officers of de jure Government of the Commonwealth]. Its interesting to note that the confederacy (per the Articles of Confederation (1781)) created by states of America which 'united' for limited purposes was and is stiled "The United States of America" not "United States" nor "the United States" nor "United States of America". Believe it or not, I even came across an old text mentioning that the "U" in "United" evidences lack of actual total, complete or absolute union. (Think: "United states of America"). From what I recall it was from the Congressional Register or something like that.

As someone else related that during a case it was asked of alleged "Government actors" if they were the same United States of America of the 1787 Constitution the attorney is said to have replied: "We don't have to answer that question". The United States of America before (~1861) the Civil War was referred to in U.S. Statutes as a plurality, after the Civil War (1870), a singularity.

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1262&d=1375038552

Related: Bank of Italy / Bank of America (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?401-Bank-of-Italy-Bank-of-America); New World Banking Order (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?936-New-World-Banking-Order); Lateran Treaty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty) (not sure if this is related to the thread)

Re: Zaphenath-paneah / tzafnat Pa'aneach:


It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Moxie
04-25-14, 12:23 AM
How is "Making use of a 'UCC'..." any different than making use of a 'USC'? [Title 12 U.S.C. §411]

I was thinking the same thing.

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 12:28 AM
How is "Making use of a 'UCC'..." any different than making use of a 'USC'? [Title 12 U.S.C. §411]

No difference at all - I have tried to explain but again you can't build a house absent a foundation. Thus I endeavored now for years to lay down Trust Law. Because you cannot comprehend Credit/Debtor unless you comprehend Trusts.

Trusts exist in Equity. End of Story.

Any Mortgage is just a Credit/Debtor relationship expressed in Covenants [promises] in Trust. The VALUE is the Promise!

Folks go on and on about money - but isn't it high time we elevate? My PROMISE is the value! My deed expresses my Trust. My signature is the Res. Therefore by my deed I become RESIDENT as TRUSTEE FOR HIRE subject to the bylaws of the Administration and Settlor.

Psa 69:22 Let their table become a snare before them: And that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.

Psa 69:23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; And make their loins continually to shake.

Psa 69:24 Pour out Thine indignation upon them, And let Thy wrathful anger take hold of them.

Psa 69:25 Let their palace be desolate; And let none dwell in their tents.

Psa 69:26 For they persecute him whom Thou hast smitten; And they talk to the grief of Thy wounded ones.

Psa 69:27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: And let them not come into Thy righteousness.

Psa 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of life, And not be written with the righteous.


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See if you can find any code here: basis of $500 bond setup to protect the Beneficiary in Equity - study a Bond is an Expressed Trust : So I merged the Titles and GUESS WHAT HAPPENED - nothing!



Notice is hereby given to the designated transfer agent that I, michael-joseph make claim to the escrow, as it pertains to escrow account numbers 10CRxxx and 10CRxxx in the amount of $1,000.00, in the escrow account name MICHAEL JOSEPH Surname. You are hereby given notice to transfer the funds to the injured party, and

Funds in escrow will be held for a period of thirty (30) days in the private judicial district of tens. Upon failure of claims by any injured party will result in funds being returned to United States Treasury by the designated transfer agent minus the damages caused by the charging party against michael-joseph family surname, and

I, michael-joseph, further claim the original organic depository trust number incun.1454.b5 and I claim assurance under said original organic trust agreement in the name of Yehoshuah, by electronic routing to claimed escrow account, MICHAEL JOSEPH SURNAME, escrow account numbers; 10CRxxx and 10CRxxx and paid in advance by the United States Treasury, and

This notice signed by me on this day of July, 2010 and the day in the year six thousand and thirteen.

This NOTICE OF CLAIM AND ORDER is witnessed by the autographs below who have also observed first hand that the original of this document was placed in an envelope and delivered to an agent of United Parcel Service for delivery to the Wake County Clerk of Court as addressed above and on the above date.

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I have much to say about Trust but it cannot be said without a foundation.

this makes me laugh - it is like telling Nebuchadnezzar he did not have jurisdiction over Shadrach - HE NAMED HIM. Better Yet - He Titled Him. Therefore since Hananiah did not Express the Trust it was Expressed FOR him!

Those out of Covenant with God are in covenant with Death. And Rabshakah is CONFUSED - and furthermore he is prepared for war - Isaiah 36.

So like I said this entire system is built on Death. It is the VALLEY OF THE DRY BONES. Yeah thou I walk thru the valley of death, I shall fear no evil....

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 01:15 AM
I was thinking the same thing.

I have watched many a friend go to jail claiming Secured Creditor status. I find it akin to trying to tap the Stock of the United States Corporation.

Are you Authorized to work within the United States? The answer is in your HEAD she said to me...

and my favorite...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQfjIw3mivc

Talk about Mind Programming - Please tell me who I am. Because you have authority OVER ME. Training the minions to do the bidding of their master - thru Media [audio/video].

Won't you sign up your name.... THE RES.

My TRUST [Valuable Promises] placed in TRUST. My Trust has VALUE. And only I can choose where it RESIDES.

Adam sought to Cover Eve as they were ONE in Trust - she was a Femme Covert. And in doing so he was complicit in her sin. For he must have ordered her to stay away from this wise one. And yet there she was at his feet.

Therefore a HUSBAND cannot contract with a WIFE after marriage for he contracts with himself! Consider now in light of Statehood! Who is the Husband and who is the wife?

The wife submits and obeys! Else there is no marriage. But if the vows are expressed, then she has duty to obey. She is the CITIZENRY. He is the Head of State. She submits to His Rule.

Mirror - Soul submits to Spirit.
Mirror - Wife submits to her Husband.

I am reminded of This......are you so trapped in your mind that you are actually going to reach for some DIMES?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWg-mozGsU


Mar 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house is not able to stand.

Mar 3:26 And if Satan hath risen up against himself, and be divided, he is not able to stand, but hath an end.

Mar 3:27 No one is any wise able to enter into the strong man's house, and plunder his vessels of gold, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will plunder his house


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Now considering the mind....one trapped is like the Disney princess trapped in a high tower - by a Strong Man. She is but a maiden. She in analogy is every man. And the Strong Man is him that trapped her. She only needs a Trigger to INSTANTLY transform her mind into the Status of her Captivity.

Does this Work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps7xmW-9LXQ


I thank my LUCKY STARS? BLASPHEMY! But boy howdy are those hairs standing on the back of the neck?

PRIDE in every American Heart.....It certainly ain't The Word of God! Pride = Leviathan!

1Pe 3:4 But let it be the inward man of the heart, in the incorruptible ornament, of a meek and quiet character, which is in the sight of God of great price.


Where is Pride?

The Princess in the Tower awaits a STRONGER MAN to release her from the prison guarded by the Dragon. Fairy tales indeed - but OH so much truth for those who understand.

Mar 3:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub [the lord of the flies], and by the prince of the devils casteth he out demons.

Mar 3:23 And He called them unto Him, and began saying unto them in parables, "How can Satan cast out Satan ?

I was thinking I don't need any DIMES.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

P.S. Folks are looking for evidence of MK ULTRA programming - look in the mirror Alice. She is every man. For SHE said make us a man-king LIKE all the other nations!

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 01:22 AM
USUFRUCT = "use of fruits"

Think about what "use of fruits" means in context of the worldly system. The fruit of our labor can be of benefit to others by simply receiving our time and energy. When it's done, it's done. It is the store of fruits of labor which is in question here as that is what is made "use" of by the worldly system in the form of "credits". The TITLE to said "credits" (and/or TITLE to property) is what we are discussing here which is "use of fruits" or USUFRUCT.

'UNITED STATES' has seized ALL TITLES and holds OWNERSHIP of said TITLES in abeyance. That means TITLE to your "store of fruits" as well. The surrender of claim to TITLE of that "store of fruits" is what Boris is putting forth in his newly formed opinion/philosophy.

I for one agree with it; I have NO desire of TITLE or OWNERSHIP or anything else of the DEAD 2nd dimension worldly system. However, as man, I retain highest claim to property which I deem necessary to carry out my purpose in this life as set forth by the Creator, Most High God. No other man has a right to deny or administer my claimed property unless said man can prove and verify a higher claim on the record under oath or affirmation.

'UNITED STATES' does not live, has no vocal chords and therefore has no ability to make a proper claim to property; man is higher than 'UNITED STATES' and EVERYTHING else under God.

Let the DEAD keep the DEAD and let the living make highest claim to [I]right of use as is the inherent capacity of man.

allodial
04-25-14, 02:05 AM
In a narrow sense considering the word 'use':

1. You have a lawn mower in allodium? You let your neighbor 'use' it. If its yours do can you ever 'use' it?
2. Isn't "use" tax a tax for gaining from taking into possession that which does not belong to you?

http://bitcoinist.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Private-jet-charter-flights.jpg

If Bob is the surety and insurer for an aircraft and Roy borrows the aircraft then isn't Roy borrowing both Bob's aircraft and to some extent Bob's suretyship? When Bob flies it, Bob is not necessarily 'use'-ing the aircraft because it is Bob's.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/id/images/features/inside_bc.png

If you use a name, title or the like that belongs to someone else, and you gain from that, then is it all that far-fetched that the one to whom the name, title or the like belongs might require partaking in your gains?


Use (thefreedictionary.com)
* - law the beneficial enjoyment of property the legal title to which is held by another person as trustee;
* - the benefit or profit of lands and tenements of which the legal title and possession are vested in another;
* -law an archaic word for trust.

Can one place something in trust with oneself?

Related terms: divided title (http://famguardian.org/PublishedAuthors/Media/Antishyster/V07N4-DivideAndConquer.pdf), equitable title, legal title, possessory estates, future interests.

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 02:16 AM
USUFRUCT = "use of fruits"

Think about what "use of fruits" means in context of the worldly system. The fruit of our labor can be of benefit to others by simply receiving our time and energy. When it's done, it's done. It is the store of fruits of labor which is in question here as that is what is made "use" of by the worldly system in the form of "credits". The TITLE to said "credits" (and/or TITLE to property) is what we are discussing here which is "use of fruits" or USUFRUCT.

'UNITED STATES' has seized ALL TITLES and holds OWNERSHIP of said TITLES in abeyance. That means TITLE to your "store of fruits" as well. The surrender of claim to TITLE of that "store of fruits" is what Boris is putting forth in his newly formed opinion/philosophy.

I for one agree with it; I have NO desire of TITLE or OWNERSHIP or anything else of the DEAD 2nd dimension worldly system. However, as man, I retain highest claim to property which I deem necessary to carry out my purpose in this life as set forth by the Creator, Most High God. No other man has a right to deny or administer my claimed property unless said man can prove and verify a higher claim on the record under oath or affirmation.

'UNITED STATES' does not live, has no vocal chords and therefore has no ability to make a proper claim to property; man is higher than 'UNITED STATES' and EVERYTHING else under God.

Let the DEAD keep the DEAD and let the living make highest claim to [I]right of use as is the inherent capacity of man.

According to Hodges: the term USUFRUCTUARY means that person that "Reaps the profit from anything".

According to Cowell: USUFRUCTUARY means that "one that has the Use and reaps the profit from anything".

USUCAPTIO: The enjoying of a Thing by Continuance of Time, or receiving the Profits, long Possession or Prescription.


A fruit is a benefit of the Land. So I might make a use of land in farming to bring forth corn. The corn is the fruit. One might make a use in land in religion [erecting a church building] for purposes set forth in the Charter. The Fruits of that Religion are Spiritual.

Fruit can of course be personal or public in regard to its uses. So if I undertake to be about my duties of husbandry such that I must forge in the Earth for Fruit to sustain my family in accord with my Kings Law, then I might take some fish out of a body of water and then return to Hidel or Sanctuary.

Honey is the Fruit produced by bees. Love, Patience, long sufferering, are Fruits of the Spirit, but are NOT the Spirit.

And Joseph found himself in a pit - and absent declaration - he was seized as a slave and sold as property. When in fact he was Heir of the House of Israel.

AND IN KEEPING HIS MOUTH SHUT - he was seized and taken into captivity.

Isa 42:22 But this is a People robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.

Isa 42:23 Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come?

Isa 42:24 Who gave Jacob [natural Jacob and his natural seed] for a spoil, and Israel [spiritual Jacob and his Spiritual seed] to the robbers? did not the LORD, He against Whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in His ways, neither were they obedient unto His law.

The answer is simple to me.

Isa 42:25 Therefore He hath poured upon him the fury of His anger, and the strength [for prevailing] of battle [that prevailed against Israel]: and it hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to heart.

Show me anywhere in Scripture where Abraham, Issac or Jacob, Moses or Aaron gave all to the treasury. What about Job? Lot? Surely there is someone who can show me where John the Baptist engaged himself with the affairs of Statehood. When he was supposed to the the High Priest. He gave all to God.

The difference my friend is HOW YOU EXPRESS THE TRUST.

Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, "Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?"

For michael-joseph is but a servant undertaking in the Kingdom wherein is my Trust. Finding I am dead in Christ - thru Baptism - there is no Law binding on me - UNLESS I allow it. By my acknowledgment and deed.

I see it like this: Rome she changed the Sabbath day from the 7th day to the 1st. And those who keep it either do so in ignorance or with understanding that they deny the authority of God and accept the authority of man. It's real simple.

I will show you my faith by my deed.

I therefore in Coverture claim in the name of Yehoshuah, my savior, my King and in whom I trust as private Beneficiary in Yehoshuah [Yeshua, Jesus or Iousus] the anointed of El Elyon.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 02:30 AM
In a narrow sense considering the word 'use':

1. You have a lawn mower in allodium? You let your neighbor 'use' it. If its yours do can you ever 'use' it?
2. Isn't "use" tax a tax for gaining from taking into possession that which does not belong to you?

If Bob is the surety and insurer for an aircraft and Roy borrows the aircraft then isn't Roy borrowing both Bob's aircraft and to some extent Bob's suretyship? When Bob flies it, Bob is not necessarily 'use'-ing the aircraft because it is Bob's.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/id/images/features/inside_bc.png

If you use a name, title or the like that belongs to someone else, and you gain from that, then is it all that far-fetched that the one to whom the name, title or the like belongs might require partaking in your gains?

A Use Tax is a tax on the Transfer of Title. First of all the mower is not allodial in regards to property that is impossible, unless you are a king. It is allodial in terms of estate as a Fee Simple. The mower is a THING. The Use in the Thing is to cut the grass - typical use.

Now if I am holding the Thing for my own uses in possession and I let it out to you then a TRUST forms.

You are Trustee holding the mower in Trust upon your uses for a time and you might benefit of its uses as a third party, but I have beneficial interest in the Trust because I had the possession and I TRANSFERRED it to you for a short time.

The Use in the Thing is an Estate. And since I transferred the FEE via Lease or Deed, you now have a Qualified FEE.

Perhaps the lease was a friendly loan - nevertheless - you would be entitled to the return of the full use of the mower [thing] upon your demand. That is unless you settled on certain terms. Then you must abide in those terms - covenants - such as creditor/debtor relationships.

Regarding Roy and Bob - Bob is Surety to the one he contracted himself to - Roy has no duty to assume the Surety UNLESS Bob stipulates that in the Contract he has with Roy. Bob would be a fool to let Roy use the Thing absent an agreement [typically in insurance - third party].

Roy makes a USE of the THING. Roy has the actual possession but Bob has the Right of Possession. Bob Promised in Contract to another to be Surety. Roy never promised [he was not a party to the Contract] - therefore has no liability in Bob's Contractual obigations. Bob would be a fool to let Roy fly absent a Surety Understanding the Use whilst the Thing was in Roy's Possession.

The Lender [Bank] requires the Borrower to keep insurance on the Thing [house] whilst the Borrower is with the obligation - meaning the Borrower might lease the house to a tenant - or he might actually reside in the house [thing] for the Use consistent with Residential Property.

Regarding Use of Property belonging to another - SPOT ON. The Cestui Que Use [he who created the Use] wants a Return from the Trustee. You are spot on.



Shalom,
MJ

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 02:31 AM
I have no desire of "profit" or of anything which derives a "profit". As a son of the Most High, I do not endeavor for worldly "profits".

The 'Treasury' does not receive anything but what exists in the 2nd dimension DEAD world. The 'Treasury' does not sit in a chair, lay on a couch, sleep in a bed or steer a car; however, it makes a 'use' of the TITLE to these things by collateralization for the debt-based currency system. The things of God's creation are not surrendered to anyone or anything; only the fictitious TITLES and "profits" derived therefrom are surrendered since... why would we want such worldly DEAD things anyway? Is God interested in the DEAD paper world or any illusionary "profits" derived from it? If not, why should we be?

allodial
04-25-14, 02:49 AM
A Use Tax is a tax on the Transfer of Title.

Transfer of legal or equitable? Why does the State of Illinois only issue motor vehicle titles to residents? Where do the People live?


First of all the mower is not allodial in regards to property {what does this word mean?} that is impossible {says who?}, unless you are a king.

That depends on your status. One can be a sovereign without being a king or a queen. Being sovereign doesn't necessarily always connote having absolute sovereignty. According to attorney general opinions, etc. the People (not to be confused with residents or subjects) ~= Crown.


Representation of the Crown is translated in our system to representation of the People. -Shawn W. Denney, Former Senior Counsel to the (Illinois) Attorney General


Thus, the source of authority of the Attorney General is the people who establish the government, and his primary obligation is to the people. Hancock v. Terry Elkhorn Mining Co., 503 S.W.2d 710, 715 (Ky. 1973).


Property:
*the right to possess, use, and dispose of anything

Related: The People's Republic of China, Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Moxie
04-25-14, 02:58 AM
Hey, I'm not reaching for any dimes! LOL

Just trying to sift out what was being explained in those lengthy uToobs. Waaay too many back handsprings and cartwheels, not enough point-making.

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 02:58 AM
'king' is still lower than man. God did not create 'king' in his image.

allodial
04-25-14, 03:04 AM
'king' is still lower than man. God did not create 'king' in his image.

Except that per Black's Law Dictionary 'man' could be construed to refer to a 'vassal' as contrasted with "Man" or "Mankind". Statutory/official vs. organic or popular English?

1614

Note: "a person of the male sex".

1615

Note the word "dominion" which is associated with sovereignty.

1616

1617
http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/2/images/title.png
(Scans from Blacks 2nd Edition (http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/2/).)

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 03:06 AM
I have no desire of "profit" or of anything which derives a "profit". As a son of the Most High, I do not endeavor for worldly "profits".

The 'Treasury' does not receive anything but what exists in the 2nd dimension DEAD world. The 'Treasury' does not sit in a chair, lay on a couch, sleep in a bed or steer a car; however, it makes a 'use' of the TITLE to these things by collateralization for the debt-based currency system. The things of God's creation are not surrendered to anyone or anything; only the fictitious TITLES and "profits" derived therefrom are surrendered since... why would we want such worldly DEAD things anyway? Is God interested in the DEAD paper world or any illusionary "profits" derived from it? If not, why should we be?

okay lets do it like this. The big toe of the Flesh which I undertake within is part of that body. It is a member of the Person called Flesh. I say person because the Flesh is NOT me - I undertake in it. Now is it profitable to me to cut off the toe? Isn't that a WASTE of property that does not belong to me?

Gen 2:7 And Yehovah Elohim formed [as a potter] man [Adam] of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath that is life; and man became a living soul.

Now then, the potter formed the Flesh from His Creation!

Gen 1:1 Original Earth
*In the beginning Elohim [prepared, formed, fashioned, and] created the Heavens and the earth. [Perfect, complete and to be Inhabited].

Now certainly I make a use of this property belonging to God. Now the question remains HOW DO I USE IT? In the manner set forth by God or according to my own vain conceptions? Nothing of this flesh is my own!

It is a Thing and not me. I SHOULD Undertake in this Flesh according to the Laws set forth by the One who Created its Use and subjected the Use to certain Laws. Will you look at your arm and call it 2d? It is but a concoction of minerals and elements. You cannot sustain it in your own power [you cannot give it life]. You can only MAINTAIN it in accord with vanity or in accord with the True Owner's Law. Therefore you and I are servants, trustees undertaking in this Flesh.

You are looking at a mirror when you see the Worlds systems. And the District Attorney Satan accuses day and night - "see Father El Elyon, how can you let these into your Kingdom, they break your Law daily". And guess what Satan is RIGHT.

If you undertake in a Kingdom you are subject to the King's Law. The name cannot hold me - I am not this Flesh - it is a MIRROR image. Yehoshuah conquered the Dragon and set this maiden free. I am free in deed because I have a clear conscience.

Those who are hidden in Yehoshuah are Free and are not UNDER any Law. But those who have placed their Life in Trust with Yehoshuah desire to keep the King's Law to be pleasing as a wife desires to be pleasing to her husbandman.

2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chastevirgin to Christ.

Virgin: G3933

parthenos
par-then'-os
Of unknown origin; a maiden; by implication an unmarried daughter: - virgin.

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Consider the analogy in Marriage. Have you engaged yourself in Marriage to another Law Giver? That is what Adam/Eve did. So what is new under the sun?

I am interested in Reaping Heavenly Profits by bringing the Harvest into the Barn. That is Turning [look it up] the hearts of the children back to The Creator instead of that of "a creator". Nevertheless all of the Earth and all things in it belong to The Creator and The Creator is able to grant to whomsoever He chooses. Those obedient children will inherit.

It is how living souls make a Use of the unrighteous mammon that God is interested.

Luk 16:11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?

Luk 16:12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?

This is God speaking - he is saying PROVE yourself trustworthy. Then we can talk. I love that God is from the Show Me state!

Shalom,
MJ

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 03:12 AM
'king' is still lower than man. God did not create 'king' in his image.

Is God subject to vanity? No. Therefore man in his current Status is NOT in the image of God. God did create the office of the King. But man wanted to see his fellow undertaking in it. There we go again back to those Five Philistine Lords [senses].

El Elyon = Emperor
Yehovah = King
El Shaddai = Queen
Yehovah occupies in many offices : As King, as Savior [Yehoshuah] as Sustainer, as Provider, etc.

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 03:25 AM
God does not refer to 'Black's Law Dictionary'; God's man predates Black.

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 03:26 AM
Legal or equitable? Why does the State of Illinois only issue motor vehicle titles to residents? Where do the People live?



That depends on your status. One can be a sovereign without being a king. Being sovereign doesn't necessarily always connote having absolute sovereignty. According to attorney general opinions, etc. the People (not to be confused with residents or subjects) ~= Crown.





Related: The People's Republic of China, Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Its obvious which Title: the Legal Title. Bob held it originally and transferred it to Roy. Bob holds the Equitable Title but he does not have to! He might just transfer BOTH titles to Roy and Bob, by Agreement, might have interest in the Estate held by Roy.

I disagree regarding sovereignty. Those who form society declare who will have the Rule over them. Thus waiving their sovereign status in engaging a new husband.

Titles are issued upon OFFICES OF TRUST. Which are of course Resident in the Law Boundary. Living souls decide for themselves where their Trust will reside thus placing the Rule of their Lives IN THOSE THEY TRUST.

Therefore if you undertake as a Trustee, then you, in your deed, become Resident [you chose, you now have the obligation] under that Law Boundary BECAUSE the Trustee is Resident in a Trust. It is a CAGE with many parts and you chose to lend your energy to one.

To say that a business is 2d is absurd to me. It is akin to saying the flesh I occupy and Maintain does not exist. Sure it does. That is akin to someone saying Eve talked to a snake - ABSURD.

Trust does not always split titles.

The People begs a Society in Trust - so that Society Lives within that Trust Boundary. And it matters not where on the Earth a member is located said member is subject to that Law Boundary by Consent. Therefore if subject, THEN Resident within that Law Boundary.

Obey The Creator or the creation. Choice seems obvious.

It should be obvious why a Trust IF structured properly will escape Probate.


Shalom,
MJ


The foregoing example of Bob and Roy assumes Bob holds an Allodial ESTATE in Fee Simple

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 03:28 AM
Is God subject to vanity? No. Therefore man in his current Status is NOT in the image of God. God did create the office of the King. But man wanted to see his fellow undertaking in it. There we go again back to those Five Philistine Lords [senses].

El Elyon = Emperor
Yehovah = King
El Shaddai = Queen
Yehovah occupies in many offices : As King, as Savior [Yehoshuah] as Sustainer, as Provider, etc.

I do not agree with your take on "image of God".

Second, any man who enters into an office of 'king' is still lower than man; how can an 'office' be higher than the living man who exercises said office?

allodial
04-25-14, 03:30 AM
God does not refer to 'Black's Law Dictionary'; God's man predates Black.

Obviously. The point is making known the various interpretations of the word. The topic is "Usufruct Surrender Remedy" and deals with those interacting with officers of the United States of America, right?


1. You have a lawn mower in allodium? You let your neighbor 'use' it. If its yours do can you ever 'use' it?
If we talk about a million different adverse possibilities and negatives and tend toward devolve everything and everyone's rights by mere presumption to and for the worser then what's the point of the discussion? The can's or cant's or impossibilities may be bespoke (unique to you) rather than 'universal'.


how can an 'office' be higher than the living man who exercises said office?

If a sovereign joined the Russian Navy as an admiral, the sovereign wouldn't necessarily be sovereign in his capacity as an admiral.

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 03:41 AM
I do not agree with your take on "image of God".

Second, any man who enters into an office of 'king' is still lower than man; how can an 'office' be higher than the living man who exercises said office?

the term Office means Duty. So what is the proper office? Is it not to render duty to God, his Creator?

If men join together and appoint themselves a king - they by their choice - elevate another man over them. Man made the choice to put another man as King in Trust. Therefore man in society is subject to their king.

That's like saying I make a choice and then saying I am not subject to my choice because I am a man. I declare status apart from being a man. I declare status as a living soul in Christ. My status is in Christ. My trust is in my King. My choice, therefore my obligation.


Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 03:47 AM
if man subjects himself to a certain realm; he enters into the jurisdiction of said realm only until he chooses to exit said realm. Is a man who at times exercises the role of 'Police Officer' called "officer" at home?

Do you claim I am a 'US citizen'? Will you verify said claim on the record with full liability?

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 04:06 AM
I have been careful to couch my discourse in Legal Terms. Because the topic is that of a Legal nature. Therefore Use in a legal sense does not hold the same meaning in a common sense. That would be committing adultery. This goes to how the argument is framed.

So an OFFICE[r] has certain duties with respect to the Law Boundary - Societal Trust. So let me frame it like this.

Lets say I claim the flesh body I reside in is mine. That is a tort because it isn't. I did not create it and I only maintain it. Now I have been granted the right to use this property - but only in accord with the Laws governing the Use. If I use it against those laws - then there are consequences. So regarding Bouvier :

USUFRUCT The right of enjoying a thing, the property of which is vested in another, and to draw from the same all the profit, utility and advantage which it may produce, provided it be without altering the substance of the thing.

Now clearly the Property is in God. So what does Enjoy mean?

ENJOYMENT. The right which a man possesses of receiving all the product of a thing for his necessity, his use, or his pleasure.

Now then considering the flesh body how will I return the Usufruct of that body to God absent death? I am bound to make a use of it to maintain it according to Leviticus 11 [health laws]. The One who created the Thing [Flesh] subjected the Use of the Thing to Law.

How then will I give what I do not have to give? What I can however do is to make the Use of the Thing according to the Law which governs the Thing.

Now the question is who sustains the flesh? Is it my vain conceptions of my own deeds? Or do I place my Trust in God. In other words am I eating from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil or the Tree of Life? A choice?

Framing as hereinbefore, I can see how one might surrender his rights to the use of the thing [Life] according to the following:


Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

Which is to say a man losing his life in Christ. That would indeed be a Surrender of the Usufruct - which hinges on the term Enjoyment. Placing my trust in Yehovah Yireh. He sustains my life. Interesting paradox.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Undertaking according to the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil - my senses Rule me. But in the Tree of Life the Holy Spirit has the Rule.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 04:15 AM
If you withhold things from others; others will withhold things from you.

A claim of OWNERSHIP is a claim to enslave and to be enslaved.

TITLES are but paper claims to the illusionary "profits" of a thing withheld from others.

God granted his sons and daughters dominion in the earth absent monetary fees. We are "charged" fees only when we "charge" others. If we do not give ALL freely to others, others will not give freely to us.

"...with a firm reliance upon the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."

That document is DEAD and so are those that signed it. However, the idea of the last line of that document can be adopted and I believe the mechanism is in place to exercise the choice to continue withholding from our brothers and sisters (claiming TITLE and OWNERSHIP) or give ALL to them (surrendering the USUFRUCT).

The 'system' is neutral and it does not live and breath; it only spits out what it takes in - garbage in garbage out. If our 'input' is righteous, the 'output' should follow suit. Do we rely upon men for this? Absolutely not (protection of Divine Providence). Do we go back on our promise? Absolutely not (sacred honor).

I do not seek, or want of, the "treasures" from the realm of the DEAD.

If I do not OWN or claim TITLE to a thing, how can I be liable for it?

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 04:18 AM
if man subjects himself to a certain realm; he enters into the jurisdiction of said realm only until he chooses to exit said realm. Is a man who at times exercises the role of 'Police Officer' called "officer" at home?

Do you claim I am a 'US citizen'? Will you verify said claim on the record with full liability?

I can agree with that in regard to OFFICE. But in regard to Society the only way to leave is to declare yourself. Public face - private face. Public husband to citizenry [wife] - private husband to partner [wife]. In society mankind assembles in Trust.

Why is this so difficult. The US Person is a member of the Corporation subject to it. If the Trustee is summoned - and you say that ain't me - then pray tell who are you? The court summons the Trustee as fiduciary to settle the account. So it is okay to benefit but not okay to take the obligation? Equity will not be mocked. If you lack trust then SAY SOMETHING. And then do something to show - for your faith spoken means nothing to me or God. Let me see your deeds - Faith absent deeds is dead.

Better still what are you and why are you here?

I hear men speaking of the three Hebrew children and them going into the fire - as if they will have courage in a day to come. To day is the day to Declare Thy Trust.

I have no trust in you - means just that - I don't do the acts anymore that make me subject to the Corporation.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Anthony Joseph
04-25-14, 04:38 AM
I can agree with that in regard to OFFICE. But in regard to Society the only way to leave is to declare yourself. Public face - private face. Public husband to citizenry [wife] - private husband to partner [wife]. In society mankind assembles in Trust.

Why is this so difficult. The US Person is a member of the Corporation subject to it. If the Trustee is summoned - and you say that ain't me - then pray tell who are you? The court summons the Trustee as fiduciary to settle the account. So it is okay to benefit but not okay to take the obligation? Equity will not be mocked. If you lack trust then SAY SOMETHING. And then do something to show - for your faith spoken means nothing to me or God. Let me see your deeds - Faith absent deeds is dead.

Better still what are you and why are you here?

I hear men speaking of the three Hebrew children and them going into the fire - as if they will have courage in a day to come. To day is the day to Declare Thy Trust.

I have no trust in you - means just that - I don't do the acts anymore that make me subject to the Corporation.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

First, why say "that ain't me"? Who is making the claim? Will said claimant come forward now and verify said claim? Does someone here claim I have done harm or caused injury?

Second, what 'benefit' have I received if I am the source of the supposed "credit" in the first place? If there is a benefit realized it is evidenced by the paper currency which circulates, and; who claims TITLE to said currency? The 'United States' and the 'Federal Reserve' receive the benefit of my energy and labor, and; TITLE to the fruits of said energy and labor (and property) have been seized by the 'United States'.

Without my claiming TITLE or OWNERSHIP in 'NAME' or anything in said 'NAME' I do not receive ANY benefit from said entities. Everything I have is from God and He does not "charge" me a fee or place a "money price tag" on what I wish to use. The rest is just an illusion and I leave that to those who desire to play in that DEAD realm.

Michael Joseph
04-25-14, 05:02 AM
First, why say "that ain't me"? Who is making the claim? Will said claimant come forward now and verify said claim? Does someone here claim I have done harm or caused injury?

Second, what 'benefit' have I received if I am the source of the supposed "credit" in the first place? If there is a benefit realized it is evidenced by the paper currency which circulates, and; who claims TITLE to said currency? The 'United States' and the 'Federal Reserve' receive the benefit of my energy and labor, and; TITLE to the fruits of said energy and labor (and property) have been seized by the 'United States'.

Without my claiming TITLE or OWNERSHIP in 'NAME' or anything in said 'NAME' I do not receive ANY benefit from said entities. Everything I have is from God and He does not "charge" me a fee or place a "money price tag" on what I wish to use. The rest is just an illusion and I leave that to those who desire to play in that DEAD realm.

But friend how does the United States seize anything it is 2d, remember? You must mean men acting for a particular society seized. For I have never seen a fiction get up and walk. How does the Federal Reserve do anything - you must mean the men who operate in it - right?

Noone forces us to do anything that we did not already consent to. Perhaps we do or did in ignorance but that is still consent. So other men enforce Laws that I consent to be bound to. How is that wrong? Those men call themselves State - are those men dead? I think not. They breathe as I do.

If I lack trust, then I ain't going. I have no obligation to go. Is a Chinese man bound to the Law boundary of those occupying within the United States? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the choices of that man.

I truly see this a a dog returning to his vomit.

Serve God in meekness and a quiet spirit. Surrender to the Way of God and walk in it. Else pledge to Rabshakah [military political officer] for the Assyrian. Isaiah 36.

It seems pretty simple to me - If I make a promise I should keep it. That's all. Nothing Free. I don't want anything Free. For I see my brother as valuable and I would desire to give him value in exchange.

I find that my God LET out a vineyard and PAID the workers in it at the end of the day. "Mediums of Exchange" is where the rubber meets the road. Ceasar pretty much controls it all these day wouldn't you say?

Seems simple - get out of debt - live quietly - honor God.

Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat 10:7 And as ye go, herald, saying, The kingdom of the heavens is drawn nigh.

Mat 10:8 Heal sick ones, cleanse leprous ones, raise dead ones, cast out demons: freely ye have received, freely give.


Comment: Of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.


Mat 10:9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass [money] in your girdles,

Mat 10:10 Nor wallet with writings on it [begging bags] for your journey, neither two coats, neither spare sandals, nor a staff for walking: for the workman is worthy of his meals.

Shalom,
MJ

allodial
04-25-14, 09:28 PM
Too much adverse presumption and very little edifying discussion? If one is talking about playing the game Monopoly, then refuses to acknowledge the Monopoly rules as having any merit, then why even acknowledge Monopoly's 'existence'? Why presume anyone discussing Monopoly to be blind (stupid and idiotic) to the obvious reality that its just a game or that anything else exists outside of Monopoly?

doug555
04-25-14, 10:57 PM
IMO, Boris's paradigm is based on the reality of the military occupation of the united States of America that started on April 15, 1861 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_T190UnZvRng5Q0E/edit?usp=sharing) when President Lincoln by the power vested in him (as Commander in Chief) summoned both Houses of Congress to convene on July 4, 1861. For more information about this "reality" see http://www.stevegartin.com/legalshisory.htm (http://www.stevegartin.com/legalshisory.htm). Here is a good excerpt:


Martial law and or Martial Rule are branches of the law of war, which is a branch of the law of nations which is Roman based international law; Justinian's code and regulation which has been in effect since April 15, 1861. The U.S. CODE sits under the Lieber Code and not the "We the People" constitution?

Congress sits under the commander-in-Chief as do the STATES, COURTS and all LAW enforcement.

If Lincoln and those who came after him did away with the common law what was put in its place?

The answer here is Roman based law represented in the Codes of Justinian.

The "law of usufruct" is part of military law (Lieber Code (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lieber.asp) - part #38 implements the usufruct principle (https://drive.google.com/?authuser=0#folders/0B8BdR0w2oZY_dW1GM3EzVFAyWHc)).

But I believe our people's captivity under "military rule" truly began MUCH earlier, in 721 BC when the Assyrian Empire conquered the Northern 10 Tribes of Israel. The implications of this perspective is posted here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_YmNQekpfYk92Ym8/edit?usp=sharing) for those who are interested in that dimension.

So, if military rule is the "reality" of our current situation here in Amercia, then, IMO, we need to develop a remedy based on starting from that reality.

Using the UCC is honoring a system used by our captors. If the UCC is used to "surrender" and make "peace" with our captors, then it may in fact be the escape clause that the Creator promised to provide for "His people" in 1 Cor 10:13 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/1-corinthians/10-13.html).

Was not Daniel blessed and protected while serving the King of Babylon?

Isn't the "daughter of Zion" (true church today) told to "Go to Babylon. There you will be rescued."? (Mic 4:10 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/micah/4-10.html))

I believe Boris's paradigm using usufruct and 12 USC 95a(2) has merit. Just as much as using 12 USC 411.

However, I believe that using UCC 3-603(b) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/3-603) about a dishonored payment would make more sense than using UCC 2 about a "protected purchaser" as far as enforcing this remedy is concerned.

Perhaps we can focus on building upon this "military rule" based paradigm, and integrate it with the "lawful money" paradigm.

See Boris's OUTLINE (http://iamsomedude.com/outline.html) to learn more...

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 12:35 AM
What is the reason and purpose for making demand of 'lawful money' per Title 12USC411?

doug555
04-26-14, 01:25 AM
What is the reason and purpose for making demand of 'lawful money' per Title 12USC411?

IMO, FRN (Federal Reserve Notes) usage invokes an “Enemy of State” status, by increasing threat to US by increasing the national debt. Peaceful inhabitants cannot be "enemies of State".

FRN (private credit) cannot DISCHARGE obligations. They can only postpone it by displacing it upon another.

Therefore, FRN usage is at odds with 12 USC 95a(2). Only lawful money can discharge debts.

Hence, a 12 USC 411 lawful money demand must be invoked in order to effect a "full acquittance and discharge" that settles accounts and keeps the books balanced.

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 01:46 AM
Anyone else wish to add their reason and purpose?

Moxie
04-26-14, 02:59 AM
The demand allows one to use the strawman/entity/game token to hold the type of job involving a payroll check, on which one makes the demand. Sometimes it's made on the signature card. Withholdings are returned later and the powers that be overlook the accounts where the demand has been made.


Also, if someone makes the demand while buying a car, for example, and that someone gets a notary to record the act and the FRN numbers, etc., that someone has first lien, even with DMV plates on the car. I think this is when the car is bought from Joe Schmoe across town, not a dealer.

Moxie
04-26-14, 03:32 AM
Maybe abandon the strawman and instead create a trust name to use the indorsed bill remedy with?

Or, if one's promise is value, would a promissory note be just as effective?

Moxie
04-26-14, 04:42 AM
We are moving to North Dakota. Meet at location X. Circle wagons and start hunting buffalo for afternoon lunch. Sever all commercial connections.

This means no toilet paper, iPhones or frappucinos.

Keith Alan
04-26-14, 01:21 PM
What is the reason and purpose for making demand of 'lawful money' per Title 12USC411?

Redemption

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 01:24 PM
I believe most just glazed over the point of the thread and, more importantly, the supporting study and research material provided by Boris (http://www.iamsomedude.com/next.html). I can tell because by the quick and assuming responses some gave which compared this approach erroneously with past "remedies".

Can anyone here verify, with first hand knowledge and testimony, that mere use of 'FRNs' creates an automatic and true liability for 'return of income' taxation?

usufruct
The right of enjoying a thing, the property of which is vested in another, and to draw from the same all the profit, utility and advantage which it may produce, provided it be without altering the substance of the thing.

usufructuary
One who has the right and enjoyment of an usufruct.
The duties of the usufructuary are,
1. To make an inventory of the things subject to the usufruct, in the presence of those having an interest in them.(The certificate of live birth / birth certificate)
2. To give security for their restitution; when the usufruct shall be at an end. (Promise to pay: contract under seal = state as usufruct)
3. To take good care of the things subject to the usufruct.
4. To pay all taxes, and claims which arise while the thing is in his possession, as a ground-rent.
5. To keep the thing in repair at his own expense.

Now, think again about the purpose of this thread "Usufruct surrender..."

Look at the above critically and decide for yourselves what position most are in conventionally and what position is proposed by Boris regarding surrender, a proper claim and acknowledging what is already true as per the extant United States military occupation.

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 01:25 PM
Redemption

What is being 'redeemed', for what reason and by what means?

Keith Alan
04-26-14, 01:37 PM
What is being 'redeemed', for what reason and by what means?
I don't know. The 'what' that is being redeemed could be FRN, or it could be those who use FRN, or both.

As to the reason they are being redeemed, again I don't know. It can be presumed the reason is for providing for moving between jurisdictions, or moving out of a jurisdiction altogether.

The means is apparently the act of making demand. It does not say whether the demand be in writing or if it may be made orally.

Keith Alan
04-26-14, 01:48 PM
@ Anthony Joseph

"Can anyone here verify, with first hand knowledge and testimony, that mere use of 'FRNs' creates an*automatic and true*liability for 'return of income' taxation?"

What a great question!

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 01:56 PM
I don't know. The 'what' that is being redeemed could be FRN, or it could be those who use FRN, or both.

As to the reason they are being redeemed, again I don't know. It can be presumed the reason is for providing for moving between jurisdictions, or moving out of a jurisdiction altogether.

The means is apparently the act of making demand. It does not say whether the demand be in writing or if it may be made orally.

Can 'FRNs' be redeemed without use of a 'person' [cf. transmitting utility]?

Keith Alan
04-26-14, 02:01 PM
Can 'FRNs' be redeemed without use of a 'person' [cf. transmitting utility]?
Hmm... another great question. Well, since according to the code a demand must be made, and since a demand can only be heard by the Treasury or Fed through a "transmitting utility" like a person, then the answer must be, no.

I guess that conclusion also tells me the demand must be made in writing.

Keith Alan
04-26-14, 02:46 PM
I just realized that 12USC411 doesn't say a demand must be made. It only prescribes one method for redemption.

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 03:43 PM
Hmm... another great question. Well, since according to the code a demand must be made, and since a demand can only be heard by the Treasury or Fed through a "transmitting utility" like a person, then the answer must be, no.

I guess that conclusion also tells me the demand must be made in writing.

Right.

A demand must be made in writing since it only can be made 'in person"; man has no need for such 'redemption'.

Who holds TITLE to the 'person' utilized when making such a demand; who is the actual usufructuary?

Keith Alan
04-26-14, 03:47 PM
Right.

A demand must be made in writing since it only can be made 'in person"; man has no need for such 'redemption'.

Who holds TITLE to the 'person' utilized when making such a demand; who is the actual usufructuary?

I'm reasonably sure the United States holds the title to that person.

Can I ask where this line of questioning is going?

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 03:51 PM
I'm reasonably sure the United States holds the title to that person.

Can I ask where this line of questioning is going?

If the State (ie. United States) "holds title to that person", then why is it not fulfilling the duties regarding said person...

1. To make an inventory of the things subject to the usufruct, in the presence of those having an interest in them.(The certificate of live birth / birth certificate)
2. To give security for their restitution; when the usufruct shall be at an end. (Promise to pay: contract under seal = state as usufrucut)
3. To take good care of the things subject to the usufruct.
4. To pay all taxes, and claims which arise while the thing is in his possession, as a ground-rent.
5. To keep the thing in repair at his own expense.


???

Keith Alan
04-26-14, 03:57 PM
If the State (ie. United States) "holds title to that person", then why is it not fulfilling the duties regarding said person...

1. To make an inventory of the things subject to the usufruct, in the presence of those having an interest in them.(The certificate of live birth / birth certificate)
2. To give security for their restitution; when the usufruct shall be at an end. (Promise to pay: contract under seal = state as usufrucut)
3. To take good care of the things subject to the usufruct.
4. To pay all taxes, and claims which arise while the thing is in his possession, as a ground-rent.
5. To keep the thing in repair at his own expense.


???
Oh that's easy; people are assuming they have title to the person, and are acting as sureties for the person.

If I had more time at the moment, I have a thoughts I'd like to share. But I have a few things to take care of, so if I remember them later, I'll share.

Anthony Joseph
04-26-14, 04:16 PM
Oh that's easy; people are assuming they have title to the person, and are acting as sureties for the person.

If I had more time at the moment, I have a thoughts I'd like to share. But I have a few things to take care of, so if I remember them later, I'll share.

When you return...

"People are assuming they have title to the person" is one part; the other part is that it is the automatic and default presumption of the 'actors' for the State that ALL people are "assuming they have title to the person", and, TITLE to everything in said person.

Now, go back to the original premise of this thread and decide for yourself if there is a solution to overcoming these assumptions and presumptions.

EZrhythm
04-26-14, 10:06 PM
Oh absolutely! Just one example is with a Notice of Mistake;
http://www.notacitizen.com/index.php/articles/86-sample-documents

allodial
04-26-14, 10:50 PM
"owner" ~= "surety". Having full title is another thing. I was told even the Russians or German officers asking "papers please" knew this.

doug555
04-27-14, 12:30 AM
If the State (ie. United States) "holds title to that person", then why is it not fulfilling the duties regarding said person...

1. To make an inventory of the things subject to the usufruct, in the presence of those having an interest in them.(The certificate of live birth / birth certificate)
2. To give security for their restitution; when the usufruct shall be at an end. (Promise to pay: contract under seal = state as usufrucut)
3. To take good care of the things subject to the usufruct.
4. To pay all taxes, and claims which arise while the thing is in his possession, as a ground-rent.
5. To keep the thing in repair at his own expense.


???

Isn't their duty voided if one is warring against the State?

Doesn't one being in contract with the FED (by using FRN's) automatically make one an "Enemy of the State"?

Keith Alan
04-27-14, 02:26 AM
Isn't their duty voided if one is warring against the State?

Doesn't one being in contract with the FED (by using FRN's) automatically make one an "Enemy of the State"?

What if it's a species of military scrip?

Anthony Joseph
04-27-14, 05:38 PM
The "duty" isn't voided; it's transferred to the one who acts as if the duty belongs to him/her. When we make adverse claims of already seized interests, we are labeled as "enemies of the State" and we obligate ourselves to fulfill the "duty" which would otherwise be the obligation of the actual usufructuary - the State.

If you wish, go to peace and surrender the 'usufruct'; surrender adverse claims to that which has been already seized and that which amounts to nothing more but mere "earthly/worldly treasures" and illusionary "profits" derived therefrom. If one makes clear declaration that one is without TITLE and/or OWNERSHIP claim(s) over already seized and vested interests of the 'United States', how can one be held lawfully liable for obligations and duties pertaining to said interests?

Any 'use' of persons in commerce benefits the State; we receive NOTHING of intrinsic value in return for our labor. Debt currency and credit provides only discharge and people get "paid" by way of said debt obligations - debt is not fair and just compensation for one's labor.

Stop acting like an OWNER and let the actors for the State administrate its own liabilities from within its own created realm.

Or, be an OWNER and take the burden on for yourself; this is what most people are doing anyway.

doug555
04-27-14, 06:14 PM
The "duty" isn't voided; it's transferred to the one who acts as if the duty belongs to him/her. When we make adverse claims of already seized interests, we are labeled as "enemies of the State" and we obligate ourselves to fulfill the "duty" which would otherwise be the obligation of the actual usufructuary - the State.

If you wish, go to peace and surrender the 'usufruct'; surrender adverse claims to that which has been already seized and that which amounts to nothing more but mere "earthly/worldly treasures" and illusionary "profits" derived therefrom. If one makes clear declaration that one is without TITLE and/or OWNERSHIP claim(s) over already seized and vested interests of the 'United States', how can one be held lawfully liable for obligations and duties pertaining to said interests?

Any 'use' of persons in commerce benefits the State; we receive NOTHING of intrinsic value in return for our labor. Debt currency and credit provides only discharge and people get "paid" by way of said debt obligations - debt is not fair and just compensation for one's labor.

Stop acting like an OWNER and let the actors for the State administrate its own liabilities from within its own created realm.

Or, be an OWNER and take the burden on for yourself; this is what most people are doing anyway.

The use of the word "surrender" implies that you must be Owner of something in some respect in order to "surrender" it.

Why else would they even be sending you a "bill"?

Boris uses "naked owner (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_ZVpUam45MEZGMU0/edit?usp=sharing)" to describe why they are approaching you for the "NAME".

In Trust, and in military seizure, ownership has been split into legal and equitable title.

The State seized (by pledge or military conquest) LEGAL title only.

The COLB (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SFFDS1Z6S2xDT3M/edit?usp=sharing) is evidence of equitable title (indemnification), which title you are holding now when you appear to be alive on the record (via UCC-1 or other county record).

This equitable title is the 'reversionary interest" that re-vests to you upon your "appearance to be alive", and this equitable title is what you indeed "surrender" to State, which then now holds BOTH Legal and Equitable Titles, causing the usufruct to end (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_eWRQNlBZMm5nSE0/edit?usp=sharing) (page 407, point II "Merger") and distinguishing the associated debt by operation of law (12 USC 95a(2).

IMO, this is how I see Boris's technology working...

Anthony Joseph
04-27-14, 10:35 PM
The use of the word "surrender" implies that you must be Owner of something in some respect in order to "surrender" it.

Why else would they even be sending you a "bill"?

Boris uses "naked owner (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_ZVpUam45MEZGMU0/edit?usp=sharing)" to describe why they are approaching you for the "NAME".

In Trust, and in military seizure, ownership has been split into legal and equitable title.

The State seized (by pledge or military conquest) LEGAL title only.

The COLB (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SFFDS1Z6S2xDT3M/edit?usp=sharing) is evidence of equitable title (indemnification), which title you are holding now when you appear to be alive on the record (via UCC-1 or other county record).

This equitable title is the 'reversionary interest" that re-vests to you upon your "appearance to be alive", and this equitable title is what you indeed "surrender" to State, which then now holds BOTH Legal and Equitable Titles, causing the usufruct to end (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_eWRQNlBZMm5nSE0/edit?usp=sharing) (page 407, point II "Merger") and distinguishing the associated debt by operation of law (12 USC 95a(2).

IMO, this is how I see Boris's technology working...

Thank you Doug; excellent summation.

Keith Alan
04-27-14, 11:37 PM
The use of the word "surrender" implies that you must be Owner of something in some respect in order to "surrender" it.

Why else would they even be sending you a "bill"?

Boris uses "naked owner (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_ZVpUam45MEZGMU0/edit?usp=sharing)" to describe why they are approaching you for the "NAME".

In Trust, and in military seizure, ownership has been split into legal and equitable title.

The State seized (by pledge or military conquest) LEGAL title only.

The COLB (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SFFDS1Z6S2xDT3M/edit?usp=sharing) is evidence of equitable title (indemnification), which title you are holding now when you appear to be alive on the record (via UCC-1 or other county record).

This equitable title is the 'reversionary interest" that re-vests to you upon your "appearance to be alive", and this equitable title is what you indeed "surrender" to State, which then now holds BOTH Legal and Equitable Titles, causing the usufruct to end (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_eWRQNlBZMm5nSE0/edit?usp=sharing) (page 407, point II "Merger") and distinguishing the associated debt by operation of law (12 USC 95a(2).

IMO, this is how I see Boris's technology working...
If that is the case, then he do you see it working in conjunction with making demand for lawful money?

doug555
04-28-14, 12:22 AM
Thank you Doug; excellent summation.

Thanks Anthony!

Your contributions are helping me find more clarity as I meditate on them.

Here are some more insights that hit me as I meditated on your comments about "adverse claims":

1. When companies, as sub-corps under the charter of the US Corp, send us bills, they cannot be "charging" us as that would be making an "adverse claim" against itself, and making itself an "enemy of State". So, if the "bill is not a bill" (a charge, an adverse claim), then what is it? Perhaps it is exactly as it says on most bills... a "PAYMENT"... a credit voucher that is capable, upon indorsement, of transferring (surrendering) a portion of the equitable title to the public credit that you are are "entitled" to as "one of the people" who are the source of the credit of the nation.

2. If money is essentially just a medium of exchange, then why couldn't "bills" simply act AS money, once indorsed as "Received" and signed on the front with lawful money demand, and then, on the back, just write, "For Deposit Only to the account of United States Treasury (12 USC 342)" [or to each State's treasury/clearinghouse as #3 proposes]?

3. I just watched about an hour long presentation on http://endofamerica.com (http://endofamerica.com) (Snapshots here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_Z3pwTzFndk9JQ0E/edit?usp=sharing)) which explained how soon the US Dollar will lose its power as the international reserve currency. If that happens, we will desperately need a replacement domestically, just as internationally it is already being replaced by the BRICS countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS). Perhaps each of the united States could agree to use "indorsed bills" as "currency", and form trade agreements among themselves just as BRICS did. Just form State clearinghouses to process this "currency", and grant every man and woman over 18 a $10,000/month credit limit to stimulate this new economic paradigm with a currency that is "labor-backed". To qualify for this "credit limit", one would have to provide proof monthly that one is actually working and truly producing an economic benefit so that inflation does not undermine the State's local economy, and its exchange rate with other States in their agreements.

All it would take to get this started would be a brave Governor who would simply declare a "State of Emergency" and implement this policy, and undertake a State-wide educational campaign explaining this policy to its inhabitants and its neighboring States. This emergency truly may occur as a result of what happens July 1, 2014.

Can you imagine how immediately popular this first State would become overnight! Everyone who was unemployed would immediately move there so they could "pay" their "bills", and work at a job they truly enjoyed and was effectively contributing a product or service that is abundantly in demand because of the last 20 years of people going without things because they couldn't afford them?

This model would stimulate local economies, since the currency is local-based. It would restore manufacturing to America. And if suppressed inventions were released, it would change the world!

This model has been proven to work already. The George Rapp Harmony Society is one example. Lincoln's "Greenback" Monetary Policy is another.

Maybe ex-Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura needs to be approached with this proposal...

JohnnyCash
04-28-14, 03:30 AM
I don't see the need for replacement "bills" when we have all this bitcoin, gold & silver, and lawful money available.

David Merrill
04-28-14, 01:36 PM
Find the asylum state (Image and Likeness of God) and abide there. This is why the Libel of Review prevents irregular extradition from the asylum state.

David Merrill
04-28-14, 01:55 PM
I sense that MJ and Allodial understand my last post, maybe quite a few readers do...

I play chess with a fellow who has lived peacefully for almost 15 years, completely off the Grid, on my mathematics (http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6653/statecourtprayer.pdf). You have to pay attention to who came into the Courtroom:


http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8230/stateprayer1.jpg
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8985/stateprayer2.jpg


My point though is that over the chessboard we are naturally confrontational, in fact I have to admit it; he has won every conversation that we have ever had!

I looked at what Boris does and thought, This guy is fighting his way off the actual theater of war. The song remains the same...


Charter of Freedoms and Exemptions Granted to Patroons; 1629.]

Anthony Joseph
04-28-14, 09:08 PM
Thanks Anthony!

Your contributions are helping me find more clarity as I meditate on them.

Here are some more insights that hit me as I meditated on your comments about "adverse claims":

1. When companies, as sub-corps under the charter of the US Corp, send us bills, they cannot be "charging" us as that would be making an "adverse claim" against itself, and making itself an "enemy of State". So, if the "bill is not a bill" (a charge, an adverse claim), then what is it? Perhaps it is exactly as it says on most bills... a "PAYMENT"... a credit voucher that is capable, upon indorsement, of transferring (surrendering) a portion of the equitable title to the public credit that you are are "entitled" to as "one of the people" who are the source of the credit of the nation.

2. If money is essentially just a medium of exchange, then why couldn't "bills" simply act AS money, once indorsed as "Received" and signed on the front with lawful money demand, and then, on the back, just write, "For Deposit Only to the account of United States Treasury (12 USC 342)" [or to each State's treasury/clearinghouse as #3 proposes]?

3. I just watched about an hour long presentation on http://endofamerica.com (Snapshots here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_Z3pwTzFndk9JQ0E/edit?usp=sharing)) which explained how soon the US Dollar will lose its power as the international reserve currency. If that happens, we will desperately need a replacement domestically, just as internationally it is already being replaced by the BRICS countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS). Perhaps each of the united States could agree to use "indorsed bills" as "currency", and form trade agreements among themselves just as BRICS did. Just form State clearinghouses to process this "currency", and grant every man and woman over 18 a $10,000/month credit limit to stimulate this new economic paradigm with a currency that is "labor-backed". To qualify for this "credit limit", one would have to provide proof monthly that one is actually working and truly producing an economic benefit so that inflation does not undermine the State's local economy, and its exchange rate with other States in their agreements.

All it would take to get this started would be a brave Governor who would simply declare a "State of Emergency" and implement this policy, and undertake a State-wide educational campaign explaining this policy to its inhabitants and its neighboring States. This emergency truly may occur as a result of what happens July 1, 2014.

Can you imagine how immediately popular this first State would become overnight! Everyone who was unemployed would immediately move there so they could "pay" their "bills", and work at a job they truly enjoyed and was effectively contributing a product or service that is abundantly in demand because of the last 20 years of people going without things because they couldn't afford them?

This model would stimulate local economies, since the currency is local-based. It would restore manufacturing to America. And if suppressed inventions were released, it would change the world!

This model has been proven to work already. The George Rapp Harmony Society is one example. Lincoln's "Greenback" Monetary Policy is another.

Maybe ex-Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura needs to be approached with this proposal...

A smart man I sometimes speak with says, "EVERY claim in a conventional court setting is 'United States' vs. 'United States'.

Think about that for a minute and then ponder the 'adverse claim' philosophy as it relates to that paradigm.

David Merrill
04-28-14, 09:11 PM
A smart man I sometimes speak with says, "EVERY claim in a conventional court setting is 'United States' vs. 'United States'.

Think about that for a minute and then ponder the 'adverse claim' philosophy as it relates to that paradigm.

Thank you AJ!

Anthony Joseph
04-28-14, 10:53 PM
The presumption in EVERY court case is that both parties are adverse claimants, unless the 'Plaintiff' is 'UNITED STATES' or ''STATE OF XXXXX'; then only the 'Defendant' is presumed an adverse claimant 'Enemy of the State'. EVERY 'NAME' in 'Plaintiff' vs "Defendant' scenarios are 'United States' creations and/or vested interests. The theater of war is the commercial realm and every transaction made within that realm absent the sole and direct administration by an 'United States' officially sworn representative signifies belligerent commercial activity (war-like stance) amidst the extant military occupation on this land.

Peaceful acknowledgment/surrender of what has already been seized is the only viable option to overcome the default presumption of "Enemy of the State" status. It is the possibility of 'reversion' (a claim that TITLE is "mine") that keeps most people in said default 'Enemy' status.

It is known that the people are the 'spoliated owners' and that said people have been seized of all TITLES. If we continue the illusion that we are the current OWNERS of these seized TITLES, we are treated as enemy combatants in the commercial theater of war. Hence the thousands upon thousands of codes, statutes, ordinances, etc. to keep the 'enemy' at bay and under control. Only an OWNER or TITLEHOLDER is subject to said codes,... etc. If we continue to act as if we are, we will be held liable as if we are - that is similar to 'trustee de son tort' as Michael Joseph has offered in the past. In other words, if you want it, you got it, and; that means ALL of it - liability, obligation, responsibility for the 'NAME' and everything TITLED/OWNED in said 'NAME.

A proper and recognized surrender of the 'Usufruct' (via UCC-1 & UCC-3) declares the default presumption as erroneous and remands the State as Usufructuary of the 'NAME' and EVERYTHING in said 'NAME'. Any and all use of, and in, 'NAME' benefits the 'State' in the commercial realm and hence 'State' should also bear the FULL liability. The 'USE' of our energy and labor has been appropriated via TITLE seizure so we owe NOTHING; we are FULLY immune and our use of the 'NAME' is FULLY indemnified and acquitted of ALL charges. The 'State' is responsible for discharging ALL debt and claims against its own 'NAME'.

Keith Alan
05-01-14, 04:15 PM
"All property belonging to the debtor/bailee belongs to the secured party"

Could it all really be that simple?

Anthony Joseph
05-01-14, 06:46 PM
"All property belonging to the debtor/bailee belongs to the secured party"

Could it all really be that simple?

There would be no 'attorneys' if "it all" wasn't intentionally made ambiguous and more difficult than it really is.

allodial
05-01-14, 08:47 PM
Find the asylum state (Image and Likeness of God) and abide there. This is why the Libel of Review prevents irregular extradition from the asylum state.

As in: exit and stay out of the (global) theater of war?

Michael Joseph
05-06-14, 01:31 AM
Let us work today while it is day for night comes and no man can work.

Finding the Keys are hidden, intentionally, I find the LOGOS being suppressed into fleshly carnal thought. Therefore I will wait in hope and patience in trust for I am dead in Christ as my life is in His Trust.

Therefore I claim as a Femme Covert - If you don't like it take it up with my Husbandman - The Christos. I rest in Him.

Shalom,
MJ

doug555
05-23-14, 10:47 PM
IMO, Boris's paradigm is based on the reality of the military occupation of the united States of America that started on April 15, 1861 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_T190UnZvRng5Q0E/edit?usp=sharing) when President Lincoln by the power vested in him (as Commander in Chief) summoned both Houses of Congress to convene on July 4, 1861. For more information about this "reality" see http://www.stevegartin.com/legalshisory.htm (http://www.stevegartin.com/legalshisory.htm). Here is a good excerpt:



The "law of usufruct" is part of military law (Lieber Code (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lieber.asp) - part #38 implements the usufruct principle (https://drive.google.com/?authuser=0#folders/0B8BdR0w2oZY_dW1GM3EzVFAyWHc)).

But I believe our people's captivity under "military rule" truly began MUCH earlier, in 721 BC when the Assyrian Empire conquered the Northern 10 Tribes of Israel. The implications of this perspective is posted here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_YmNQekpfYk92Ym8/edit?usp=sharing) for those who are interested in that dimension.

So, if military rule is the "reality" of our current situation here in Amercia, then, IMO, we need to develop a remedy based on starting from that reality.

Using the UCC is honoring a system used by our captors. If the UCC is used to "surrender" and make "peace" with our captors, then it may in fact be the escape clause that the Creator promised to provide for "His people" in 1 Cor 10:13 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/1-corinthians/10-13.html).

Was not Daniel blessed and protected while serving the King of Babylon?

Isn't the "daughter of Zion" (true church today) told to "Go to Babylon. There you will be rescued."? (Mic 4:10 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/micah/4-10.html))

I believe Boris's paradigm using usufruct and 12 USC 95a(2) has merit. Just as much as using 12 USC 411.

However, I believe that using UCC 3-603(b) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/3-603) about a dishonored payment would make more sense than using UCC 2 about a "protected purchaser" as far as enforcing this remedy is concerned.

Perhaps we can focus on building upon this "military rule" based paradigm, and integrate it with the "lawful money" paradigm.

See Boris's OUTLINE (http://iamsomedude.com/outline.html) to learn more...

Here is latest video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWXFtUcmUeE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWXFtUcmUeE)

Please comment here in this thread after viewing...

David Merrill
05-24-14, 08:52 AM
Mandatory Exception:


Let us work today while it is day for night comes and no man can work.

Finding the Keys are hidden, intentionally, I find the LOGOS being suppressed into fleshly carnal thought. Therefore I will wait in hope and patience in trust for I am dead in Christ as my life is in His Trust.

Therefore I claim as a Femme Covert - If you don't like it take it up with my Husbandman - The Christos. I rest in Him.

Shalom,
MJ

David Merrill
05-24-14, 09:42 AM
This is NOT what we are doing with Treasury Direct...

That is from the 2:30 Minute Mark.

There is some comparison made by an advocate of Tim TURNER and the Republics project too. There I have plenty of warnings, and we have men with well-intention sitting in prison.

It strikes me that you are warning people to stay far away from Boris? I am thinking that is your message - Flee!



Here is latest video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWXFtUcmUeE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWXFtUcmUeE)

Please comment here in this thread after viewing...


P.S. I have not watched more than 5 minutes of the video linked. The cameraman might have put the microphone closer to Boris at least. It would have been good to not position Boris so he silhouettes all the time too.

P.P.S. I glanced at the original post link from March too. The Colorado Affair looks to be a project stemming from the Republics? I am familiar enough with the networking here to intuit that many adherents would be tenacious and promoting such things. I have to say that I am not studying this very much and so will reserve opinion but this takes me back to the Montana Freeman days...

You may sense already the aversion I have to Boris. I would have to spend some more time telling you exactly why. One look at the UCC Form he authored has me avoiding him.

doug555
05-24-14, 02:40 PM
It strikes me that you are warning people to stay far away from Boris? I am thinking that is your message - Flee!
...

You may sense already the aversion I have to Boris. I would have to spend some more time telling you exactly why. One look at the UCC Form he authored has me avoiding him.

Perhaps Boris's implementation of the remedy based on the military rule paradigm is mistaken...

BUT, as I stated earlier,


Perhaps we can focus on building upon this "military rule" based paradigm, and integrate it with the "lawful money" paradigm.

It appears that there is an aversion to even consider this military rule based paradigm, and its true origin for our nation.

Perhaps even a more fundamental and subliminal aversion is at work here... An antagonism against OBEYING the Creators' Seven Annual Holyday PLAN (http://pentecostnation.wordpress.com/the-plan/) for Man-kind?

Read Our ‘Military Rule’ Cause & Cure (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_YmNQekpfYk92Ym8/edit) in its entirety and tell me if this is not so... and why we should not address this original CAUSE of our people's captivity in order to begin solving our current military captivity as implemented via the Lieber Code (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lieber.asp).

David Merrill
05-25-14, 08:53 AM
Thank you for explaining that to me.

I took a better look at this Outline (http://iamsomedude.com/outline.html).



12 USC 95a(2) … and no person shall be held liable in any court for or in respect to anything done or omitted in good faith in connection with the administration of, or in pursuance of and in reliance on, this section, or any rule, regulation, instruction, or direction issued hereunder.

I recall Boris in front of a large flat screen displaying his computer and at that time was impressed with his style. However with the remedy being written into Title 12 USC §411 it is difficult for anybody to capture my attention outside the scope of remedy Congress has already provided. This remains the case, especially with his recent presentations, and the header about the Colorado Affair. I know intuitively Tim TURNER's The Republics folks are still busy around Boris and from the comment Marked above Boris admits to having studied out that doctrine and claims to have learned from their mistakes, at least.


However, I believe that using UCC 3-603(b) about a dishonored payment would make more sense than using UCC 2 about a "protected purchaser" as far as enforcing this remedy is concerned.

I am grabbing that as a Tell, as I am still reluctant to spend a lot of time on Boris - as an indication you intend to fight your way off the battlefield - the term enforce.

Because of your patience with me, I feel that you deserve for me to address this:


Read Our ‘Military Rule’ Cause & Cure (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_YmNQekpfYk92Ym8/edit) in its entirety and tell me if this is not so... and why we should not address this original CAUSE of our people's captivity in order to begin solving our current military captivity as implemented via the Lieber Code.

Congress has already pruned out the Military Action of 1861 - culling it down to a couple pages of legislation, stipulating what will remain is the ability to declare another Bankers' Holiday when this immanent run on the Fed develops enough to matter. They did this in around 1976. This is why as I view Boris as you present him to us, I redact his presentation down to Title 12 USC §§ found in 95. Those Sections are the Trading with the Enemy Act still in effect.

I really hope it does not come off as being lazy on my part. I find it greatly efficient; allowing me to dedicate my time to other pursuits. Regarding Boris though, I encountered something interesting in ACIM (A Course in Miracles) class yesterday morning:


Chapter 13; Section V; Paragraph 2 - Each one peoples his world with figures from his individual past, and it is because of this that private worlds do differ. 2 Yet the figures that he sees were never real, for they are made up only of his reactions to his brothers, and do not include their reactions to him...

Accordingly Boris visited briefly offering his perspective - I colored him through my filter tinted by his UCC-1 lien against the hospital where he was born. This came off quite belligerent and Anthony Joseph made a presentment demanding I explain how come a mortgage was released if not for an identical UCC-1 suit/lien riding on it. So presuming there is some truth to MKULTRA (Bill THETFORD's Subproject 130 - Displacement Hysteria/Imagination Disorders) dosing Helen SCHUCMAN with LSD for 7 years to produce the ACIM book - combined with the Holy Spirit as I will not open it without a group of loving people to help me out, I am only seeing a shadow of my own formation around Boris and his work.

But at least I feel that I have explained why I will not sit through these subsequent video presentations where the camera is closer to all the audience conversations and they get distracted by their own thoughts so we don't even really hear Boris. Thank you though, for narrowing it down to the one link (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_YmNQekpfYk92Ym8/edit) there. I might get to it.


Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. I like Boris' succinctness - presuming this is written by Boris:


Here is the main point of this entire post:



We are under "military rule" today because we are continuing the MISTAKE of our ancient Israelite ancestors. We are still ignoring the ancient holyday statutes of the Creator, Our Father, in heaven, which are designed to help us know Him and understand His Divine Plan for us. These holydays are the SIGNS that keep us on track to eternal life, and show the way out of modern Egypt's "military rule".

Everything else is a STUMBLINGBLOCK and will not deliver us from today's "military rule" until we correct THAT MISTAKE.

These Holydays constitute the core foundation of the Mosaic common law because they reveal the Divine Plan.

Trying to restore the other ancient institutions of Mosaic common law while ignoring these FOUNDATIONAL holyday statutes will prove fatal to such efforts.

Perhaps it is because I have written out the Laws of Moses (http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4011/lawsofmoses.pdf) and the entire Pentateuch (Torah) too, that I simply make this presumption. That is the purpose of doing so anyway, so that the Holiday Structure becomes a natural part of my thinking. I recall spending a dedicated six weeks at these two projects!

I should add though, the Gifts of the Holy Spirit according to ACIM are:


1) To have; give all to all
2) To have peace; teach peace to learn it
3) Be vigilant only for God and His kingdom.

So I imagine that soon I will put that on the front of a T-Shirt and the backside will read:


YOU CANNOT FIGHT YOUR WAY OFF THE BATTLEFIELD!!

Michael Joseph
05-25-14, 03:29 PM
Perhaps it is because I have written out the Laws of Moses (http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4011/lawsofmoses.pdf) and the entire Pentateuch (Torah) too, that I simply make this presumption. That is the purpose of doing so anyway, so that the Holiday Structure becomes a natural part of my thinking. I recall spending a dedicated six weeks at these two projects!

David Merrill I am about that same exercise. I understand authority. I mean consider CAREFULLY the question "By what authority do you act?". Now Satan is going to love that one! Why? Because it implies institutions and he [Satan] controls all of them! As for my perspective I do see multiple Satan's but I also see One at their head. I don't buy into this U2 programming - the Devil inside - that would mean that our Christ was indwelt with Satan. I don't buy it.

However back on point.

If I am asked that question what would be my response? For indeed how is my authority established? If I am a MeLoCH [king] then my authority is in my hand [Qof] and what should be in my hand is a Staff [of Instruction = Torah]. And I should make a Use of that Staff to comfort and lead the people.

Yes, indeed the King's read the Scriptures quite a bit differently than do others. And the Election see it a bit different than others as well. Each as he is called by the King of kings.

Considering the Great Shepherd's Staff:

Psa 23:1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
Psa 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
Psa 23:3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
Psa 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Psa 23:5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
Psa 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

I see the valley of the shadow of death as this flesh age! My comfort is The Word of God. Now if I have it in my hand - that double edged sword, if it is written in my mind, then I am SEALED. And no wind [doctrine] can remove me from the Rock of my Foundation.

My Authority is The Word. Therefore O' Judge you take up your argument with God. I am merely the King's servant.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

The Light is The Word of God.

Therefore I imply and express my Trust in God. My deeds match my expressions. I do not seek a See [ty] as in Holy See [capitol] - rather I seek a place not made by the hands of men.

Yehovah Shammah = The LORD is There.

Eze 48:35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.

I rest in Yehovah in my Savior Yehovah is Salvation [Yehoshuah].

For I find the FIRST BORN of CREATION was light! The Word

Psa 27:1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

Psa 119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

Now therefore to the Seven Candlesticks = The Churches - which hold the Light - The Word. I am a church unto myself - for I find I am a temple for my God. I am called to walk in the order of Melchizedok [King and Priest] with the Word in my Hand and Mind - Sealed unto Righteousness - carrying the double edged sword as my Authority.

This dear Reader is what gives Authority to a king. Else one absent the Seal bears another seal [in his hand and in his forehead].

See now the trust? Eden is all around you!

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

David Merrill
05-25-14, 04:43 PM
I have finished the Psalm to song in the same key found in this snippet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImOWFiMDMzODgtM2QxMS00MWZjLWFjYzUtNzM1M jhhOTBhODNj/edit?). It is lovely!

My observation is that the Veil was as thick as a man's hand because it is a braid of 613 threads - for the mitzvot - the Law. And I do not observe lightly as I will attend Bible Study tonight with the Christians who proclaim to be saved by this Substitution; through the Shed Blood of Yehoshuah. So by and through this substitution, this nod to animal sacrifice they bump their head still into the Law they feel Jesus fulfilled. For the Melchizedek priest however, the Veil is Rent, top to bottom and we enter the Throne Room unobstructed by anything but our unnatural (conditioned) fear of the Will of God.

doug555
05-25-14, 06:25 PM
... Congress has already pruned out the Military Action of 1861 - culling it down to a couple pages of legislation, stipulating what will remain is the ability to declare another Bankers' Holiday when this immanent run on the Fed develops enough to matter. They did this in around 1976. This is why as I view Boris as you present him to us, I redact his presentation down to Title 12 USC §§ found in 95. (Yep, that is his main remedy, as yours is 12 USC 411) Those Sections are the Trading with the Enemy Act still in effect. (Agreed)

... Thank you though, for narrowing it down to the one link (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_YmNQekpfYk92Ym8/edit) there. I might get to it. (Thanks! no rush... BTW, this article was written by me... hoping to show an ancient connection to 12 USC 95a, and the spiritual remedy being ignored.)


... P.S. I like Boris' succinctness - presuming this is written by Boris: (No - it was written by me)



Here is the main point of this entire post:

We are under "military rule" today because we are continuing the MISTAKE of our ancient Israelite ancestors. We are still ignoring the ancient holyday statutes of the Creator, Our Father, in heaven, which are designed to help us know Him and understand His Divine Plan for us. These holydays are the SIGNS that keep us on track to eternal life, and show the way out of modern Egypt's "military rule".

Everything else is a STUMBLINGBLOCK and will not deliver us from today's "military rule" until we correct THAT MISTAKE.

These Holydays constitute the core foundation of the Mosaic common law because they reveal the Divine Plan.

Trying to restore the other ancient institutions of Mosaic common law while ignoring these FOUNDATIONAL holyday statutes will prove fatal to such efforts.



David, thanks for your kind and lengthy response... and, likewise, your patience with me.

See my clarifications above in blue.

I am glad you agree that 12 USC 95a, as part of TWEA (50 USC App) is still in effect. This is why I believe that a remedy lies therein just as much as it does in 12 USC 411, as it applies to "persons" (personas) owned by the State, which said person I believe we must honorably and respectfully (http://www.biblestudytools.com/interlinear-bible/passage.aspx?q=mt+13%3A30&t=nas) "move/operate" as their monopoly game piece in their dead fiction world, much as the prophet Daniel did in Babylon (http://www.biblestudytools.com/interlinear-bible/passage.aspx?q=dan+6%3A4&t=nas), and was blessed therein in so doing.... being honorably "in" the world, but not "of" the world.

TWEA 50 USC App at: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title50/pdf/USCODE-2009-title50-app-tradingwi.pdf (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title50/pdf/USCODE-2009-title50-app-tradingwi.pdf)

Wars Powers info at: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/war-powers.php (http://www.loc.gov/law/help/war-powers.php)

Senate Report 93-549 at: http://www.ncrepublic.org/images/lib/SenateReport93_549.pdf (http://www.ncrepublic.org/images/lib/SenateReport93_549.pdf)

and at: http://scannedretina.com/2014/03/17/senate-report-93-549/ (http://scannedretina.com/2014/03/17/senate-report-93-549/)

Dr Eugene Shroder's book at: http://www.buffalocreekpress.com/consec.htm (http://www.buffalocreekpress.com/consec.htm)

David Merrill
05-25-14, 10:37 PM
http://Friends-n-Family-Research.info/FFR/Merrill_PL94-412.jpg
http://Friends-n-Family-Research.info/FFR/Merrill_PL94-412_stipulation.jpg

David Merrill
05-25-14, 11:31 PM
Perhaps I am too scientific in my approach. I see §§95 accommodating §411.

After three days alone on a 12K foot-high rock formation and after about ten gear changes in my thinking I found myself testing God Himself, throwing rocks at the heavens and in much more colorful language and in a total rage telling God he had better shut His ugly little pie-hole if He would not be coming through with His Covenants. - That He best be showing me He existed; after all I had been up there for three days and He had given me no clue except the evidence already plain to anybody. With the tears rolling down my face, screaming and shouting and throwing stones at God I did not notice how quickly the weather was changing!

Within minutes I was in a hail storm about the size of large marbles, almost ping-pong ball hail that pounded my tent and there was almost continuous thunder with flashing lightening all around me. I figured it was time to die because I had angered God so I stripped down and climbed into my sleeping bag for a nap. I thought the hail was going to rip the tent apart so I best have a little padding; but really, in that moment I was thinking about the charged air and what it was going to be like when God directed one of the bolts to my minuscule tent on the north side of Pikes Peak. I imagined what every neuron in my central nervous system would do as they all, millions of them exploded in tremendous voltage and current flow. You know that's gotta hurt!! So I chose to take a nap and die in my sleep.

However after a few minutes I noticed the tent was getting smaller because all the hail was sliding down and building up around the dome. So I got up and pulled on an army poncho and my hat to protect my head and unfolded my army shovel and stepped out into the storm. On the mountainside in front of me a bolt of lightening buzzed at the ground and must have grabbed on to some ice under the rocks because there was an explosion that sent some of the stones flying up into the air! I thought, Yep! You did it this time! You have been throwing rocks and God and this is what comes of it. I shoveled the hail away from my tent and climbed back into it and laid down again in my sleeping bag.

The storm let up. I got dressed and came out into the beautiful afternoon and there was about 8" of hail on the ground for about 1/4 mile all around me on the alpine slope and my tent was in the center of it.

Now you are probably thinking that I figured God was giving me a warning and showing me His mercy, sparing me His wrath. Right on! But I never actually felt that way in my heart. I read about Jesus controlling the weather in the Book of Mark and looked into it and what Jesus knew from his travels was that a typhoon on the inland sea would quickly dissipate due to conservation of energy. However, after telling the crew that there was nothing to worry about, knowing they were either going to be destroyed by the twister or it would kill itself off by siphoning up the water the crew, never having seen or even heard of typhoons was not to be dissuaded that Jesus had done it by miracle. But this knowledge had very little effect on my feelings about the hail storm.

I had affected the weather. This is the methodology with which Jesus healed too.

doug555
05-26-14, 12:06 AM
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-90/pdf/STATUTE-90-Pg1255.pdf (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-90/pdf/STATUTE-90-Pg1255.pdf)

Hmmmm.... Doesn't Sec. 101(a)(1) provide a BIG "loophole" one could drive a Mack truck through?

Define "action", "proceeding", "pending", "not finally concluded", and "determined".

And then there is the issue of it being renewed every year...
https://www.google.com/search?q=national+emergency+renewed&oq=national+emergency+renewed&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.26169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=national+emergency+renewed&oq=national+emergency+renewed&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.26169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)

This appears to be "wordcrafting" at its best!

Is this not a perfect example of Farenheit 451 Newspeak Doublespeak (http://www.stubbornthings.org/movie-review-fahrenheit-451/)?

Just Google "doublespeak farenheit 451 newspeak (https://www.google.com/search?num=50&newwindow=1&es_sm=93&q=doublespeak+farenheit+451+newspeak&oq=doublespeak+farenheit+451+newspeak&gs_l=serp.12..30i10.109021.109021.0.111162.1.1.0.0 .0.0.77.77.1.1.0....0...1c.1.45.serp..0.1.76.fO7D-B5K0Rw)"

Michael Joseph
05-26-14, 12:16 AM
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-90/pdf/STATUTE-90-Pg1255.pdf (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-90/pdf/STATUTE-90-Pg1255.pdf)

Hmmmm.... Doesn't Sec. 101(a)(1) provide a BIG "loophole" one could drive a Mack truck through?

Define "action", "proceeding", "pending", "not finally concluded", and "determined".

And then there is the issue of it being renewed every year...
https://www.google.com/search?q=national+emergency+renewed&oq=national+emergency+renewed&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.26169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=national+emergency+renewed&oq=national+emergency+renewed&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.26169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)

This appears to be "wordcrafting" at its best!

Is this not a perfect example of Farenheit 451 Newspeak Doublespeak (http://www.stubbornthings.org/movie-review-fahrenheit-451/)?

Just Google "doublespeak farenheit 451 newspeak (https://www.google.com/search?num=50&newwindow=1&es_sm=93&q=doublespeak+farenheit+451+newspeak&oq=doublespeak+farenheit+451+newspeak&gs_l=serp.12..30i10.109021.109021.0.111162.1.1.0.0 .0.0.77.77.1.1.0....0...1c.1.45.serp..0.1.76.fO7D-B5K0Rw)"


12USC411 - 12USC342 - 12USC95a

Look up Diversity of Citizenship - you will see a Corporation is a Citizen. But one incorporated UNDER Statute is clearly under Administration - this of course is PRIVATE LAW.

I agree with Tupper Saussy Evil to rule over Evil.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

doug555
05-26-14, 12:40 AM
Perhaps I am too scientific in my approach. I see §§95 accommodating §411.
...


Yes... and the 12 USC 95a(2) "full acquittance and discharge" (true payment) is not possible unless the 12 USC 411 lawful money (real asset value) is used, and why said "demand" has to be made available to effect that remedy, as well as to prevent "involuntary servitude" (slavery) from being imposed on all Americans.

Michael Joseph
05-26-14, 01:08 AM
12USC411 - 12USC342 - 12USC95a

Look up Diversity of Citizenship - you will see a Corporation is a Citizen. But one incorporated UNDER Statute is clearly under Administration - this of course is PRIVATE LAW.

I agree with Tupper Saussy Evil to rule over Evil.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Resulting Trust causes a problem - especially in light of Equity and Gifting - Equity assumes a BARGAIN - win/win for both sides.

In order to evade this problem the Grant must be done without strings or said another way - IRREVOCABLE GRANT absent any remainderman interests.

See attachment I dug out of the archives.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

1763

doug555
05-26-14, 02:23 AM
Resulting Trust causes a problem - especially in light of Equity and Gifting - Equity assumes a BARGAIN - win/win for both sides.

In order to evade this problem the Grant must be done without strings or said another way - IRREVOCABLE GRANT absent any remainderman interests.

See attachment I dug out of the archives.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

1763

Does not the transfer/assignment of equitable title to reversionary interest (remainderman) in a res equate to the intention of "gift"?

doug555
05-26-14, 04:13 AM
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-90/pdf/STATUTE-90-Pg1255.pdf (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-90/pdf/STATUTE-90-Pg1255.pdf)

Hmmmm.... Doesn't Sec. 101(a)(1) provide a BIG "loophole" one could drive a Mack truck through?

Define "action", "proceeding", "pending", "not finally concluded", and "determined".

And then there is the issue of it being renewed every year...
https://www.google.com/search?q=national+emergency+renewed&oq=national+emergency+renewed&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.26169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=national+emergency+renewed&oq=national+emergency+renewed&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.26169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)

This appears to be "wordcrafting" at its best!

Is this not a perfect example of Farenheit 451 Newspeak Doublespeak (http://www.stubbornthings.org/movie-review-fahrenheit-451/)?

Just Google "doublespeak farenheit 451 newspeak (https://www.google.com/search?num=50&newwindow=1&es_sm=93&q=doublespeak+farenheit+451+newspeak&oq=doublespeak+farenheit+451+newspeak&gs_l=serp.12..30i10.109021.109021.0.111162.1.1.0.0 .0.0.77.77.1.1.0....0...1c.1.45.serp..0.1.76.fO7D-B5K0Rw)"


http://www.usa-the-republic.com/emergency%20powers/War_And_Emergency_Powers.pdf (http://www.usa-the-republic.com/emergency%20powers/War_And_Emergency_Powers.pdf)

Above link to Eugene Schroder's 1994 "War And Emergency Powers Report" contains below excerpt on pages 25 & 26:


Has the termination of the national emergency ever been considered? In Public Law 94412, September
14, 1976 (Exhibit 70), we find that Congress had finally finished their exhaustive study on the national
emergencies, and the words of their findings were that they would terminate the existing national
emergencies. We should be able to heave a sigh of relief at this decision, for with the termination of the
national emergencies will come the corresponding termination of extraordinary Presidential power, won't
it? But yet we have learned two difficult lessons: that we are still in the national emergency, and that
power, once grasped, is difficult to let go. And so now it should come as no surprise when we read, in the
last section of the Act, Section 502 (Exhibit 71), the following words:

"(a): The provisions of this act shall not apply to the following provisions of law, the powers
and authorities conferred thereby and actions taken thereunder (1) Section 5(b) of the Act of
October 6, 1917, as amended (12 U. S. C. 95a; 50 U. S. C. App. 5b)"

The bleak reality is, the situation has not changed at all.

...

We can see now that we have come full circle to the situation which existed in 1774, but with one crucial
difference. In 1774, Americans were protesting against a colonial power which sought to bind and control
its colony by wartime powers in a time of peace. In 1994, it is our own government which has sought,
successfully to date, to bind its own people by the same subtle, insidious method.

Keith Alan
05-26-14, 06:55 AM
Perhaps I am too scientific in my approach. I see §§95 accommodating §411.

After three days alone on a 12K foot-high rock formation and after about ten gear changes in my thinking I found myself testing God Himself, throwing rocks at the heavens and in much more colorful language and in a total rage telling God he had better shut His ugly little pie-hole if He would not be coming through with His Covenants. - That He best be showing me He existed; after all I had been up there for three days and He had given me no clue except the evidence already plain to anybody. With the tears rolling down my face, screaming and shouting and throwing stones at God I did not notice how quickly the weather was changing!

Within minutes I was in a hail storm about the size of large marbles, almost ping-pong ball hail that pounded my tent and there was almost continuous thunder with flashing lightening all around me. I figured it was time to die because I had angered God so I stripped down and climbed into my sleeping bag for a nap. I thought the hail was going to rip the tent apart so I best have a little padding; but really, in that moment I was thinking about the charged air and what it was going to be like when God directed one of the bolts to my minuscule tent on the north side of Pikes Peak. I imagined what every neuron in my central nervous system would do as they all, millions of them exploded in tremendous voltage and current flow. You know that's gotta hurt!! So I chose to take a nap and die in my sleep.

However after a few minutes I noticed the tent was getting smaller because all the hail was sliding down and building up around the dome. So I got up and pulled on an army poncho and my hat to protect my head and unfolded my army shovel and stepped out into the storm. On the mountainside in front of me a bolt of lightening buzzed at the ground and must have grabbed on to some ice under the rocks because there was an explosion that sent some of the stones flying up into the air! I thought, Yep! You did it this time! You have been throwing rocks and God and this is what comes of it. I shoveled the hail away from my tent and climbed back into it and laid down again in my sleeping bag.

The storm let up. I got dressed and came out into the beautiful afternoon and there was about 8" of hail on the ground for about 1/4 mile all around me on the alpine slope and my tent was in the center of it.

Now you are probably thinking that I figured God was giving me a warning and showing me His mercy, sparing me His wrath. Right on! But I never actually felt that way in my heart. I read about Jesus controlling the weather in the Book of Mark and looked into it and what Jesus knew from his travels was that a typhoon on the inland sea would quickly dissipate due to conservation of energy. However, after telling the crew that there was nothing to worry about, knowing they were either going to be destroyed by the twister or it would kill itself off by siphoning up the water the crew, never having seen or even heard of typhoons was not to be dissuaded that Jesus had done it by miracle. But this knowledge had very little effect on my feelings about the hail storm.

I had affected the weather. This is the methodology with which Jesus healed too.
Marvelous story!

David Merrill
05-26-14, 08:49 AM
It might give the Reader some insight as to why Jesus (almost) always inquired about faith before healing. There are a couple exceptions - where faith was demonstrated - with four friends lowering the quadriplegic through the roof for one. The other is an encryption in my opinion. A blind man keeps shouting, Jesus, Son of David; have mercy on me!... Jesus, Son of David.... The key there is understand the Two Messiah principle behind the First and Second Advent of Jesus CHRIST - that it is Messiah ben Joseph and subsequently Messiah ben David.


Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.



Does not the transfer/assignment of equitable title to reversionary interest (remainderman) in a res equate to the intention of "gift"?


That is my understanding of it. If an IRS attorney understands you gift the US your Withholdings, they will avoid transferring you interest and Refund your total Withholdings.

doug555
05-26-14, 02:17 PM
...


Does not the transfer/assignment of equitable title to reversionary interest (remainderman) in a res equate to the intention of "gift"?


That is my understanding of it. If an IRS attorney understands you gift the US your Withholdings, they will avoid transferring you interest and Refund your total Withholdings.

OK... then why would not this UCC-3 Assignment (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_anNydVNpU3YzTjQ/edit?usp=sharing), along with the original associated indorsed bill (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_am15WWcxdHA0TmM/edit?usp=sharing) (proposed usufruct indorsement (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SU1mV2Q0LXRneGc/edit?usp=sharing)) as the instrument of transfer of equitable title to reversionary interest (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_dzg4dVBqZW1PRDQ/edit?usp=sharing) (remainderman) in a res (credit amount on the bill due to the people who are ultimately the acknowledged source of all credit of the nation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_cWdjRFJGenN4N0U/edit?usp=sharing)), effect a "full acquittance and discharge (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_RUEyZDNxYThaVEU/edit?usp=sharing)" of said bill in lawful money (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_N3o4SXRfRTJLT1U/edit?usp=sharing) of exchange, dollar for dollar, as provided by the INTENT in the terms of the expressed trust known as HJR 192, June 5, 1933 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SE80RkxSWEdUZ1k/edit?usp=sharing), when said instrument is deposited as lawful money in any Federal Reserve bank or member bank (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_VGlPVUd5QUJEUTA/edit?usp=sharing) ?

Isn't such assignment just a ratification of the "for-giveness" birth pledge?


Mt 6:12 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/interlinear-bible/passage.aspx?q=Mt+6%3A12&t=nas)
12 'And forgive us our debts, as we also have for-given our debtors

NOTE: UCC-3 Acknowledgement is sent to Office of Alien Property (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_VDJtRUppODN1cTg/edit?usp=sharing) per 50 USC App 7(e) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SzlIWkhsNXZoQms/edit?usp=sharing), with Stuart F. Delery (http://www.justice.gov/civil/common/meet.html) as current officeholder.

NOTE: The above is for education only - not for execution - no legal advice given.

Michael Joseph
05-27-14, 04:09 PM
Now you are probably thinking that I figured God was giving me a warning and showing me His mercy, sparing me His wrath. Right on! But I never actually felt that way in my heart. I read about Jesus controlling the weather in the Book of Mark and looked into it and what Jesus knew from his travels was that a typhoon on the inland sea would quickly dissipate due to conservation of energy. However, after telling the crew that there was nothing to worry about, knowing they were either going to be destroyed by the twister or it would kill itself off by siphoning up the water the crew, never having seen or even heard of typhoons was not to be dissuaded that Jesus had done it by miracle. But this knowledge had very little effect on my feelings about the hail storm.



I would like to respond briefly with a fresh perspective. I will preface by saying Scripture has many outworkings and I would never belittle another man's conscience. However please consider that the parable concerning Jesus walking on the water might have symbolic meaning as well.

Jesus is the Word made flesh - so when I see Jesus upon the Waters - I am reminded of Genesis 1 where Elohim separated the Waters from the Waters. In Rev 17:15 we read that the earthly waters are "peoples, nations, tongues".

Jesus = The Word
[earthly] Waters = Mankind

Strong Wind = Doctrine
Waves = False Teachers

Boat = This Flesh Age


Notice that Jesus comes walking out to the Boat on the Water in the FOURTH WATCH. That is the last watch before the dawning of the day. Notice too that there is separation. The husbandman has gone on a far journey. He is on land, they are on the water.

So at the End of the Age just before the Dawning of a New Earth and New Heavens we see The Word coming. Now who steps out of the boat? It is Peter!

Peter = the Church.

With eyes on The Word the Church is elevated. However we see that when the Church considers and accommodates strange doctrine [winds] Peter begins to sink into a secular status (501c3?).

=============================

We see in another parable they all get into the Boat together but before they get in Jesus [The Word] tells them [the Disciples] they are going over. The Word has already declared the End from the Beginning! We have The Word in our hands today - and yet men fear for lack of faith. The disciples woke him saying "save us". But if they had faith they would realize he had already given the decree for safe passage.

The Storm in both parables are false doctrines given by false teachers.

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Jud 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Jud 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Here we have the KEY.

Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

And now we see the False Pastor in the pulpit wagging his tongue [raging wave] with all sorts of vile doctrine [winds] and we see now how the Ship is tosses to and fro in the midst of the sea [peoples nations and tongues] by such a small helm [the mouth of a false teacher].

Jas_3:4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.


Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
05-27-14, 04:36 PM
Does not the transfer/assignment of equitable title to reversionary interest (remainderman) in a res equate to the intention of "gift"?

In my opinion:

If i am holding both the legal estate and the equitable estate it can be said I have an allodial Fee Simple Estate. I did not say I have allodial property rights. There is a big difference! Now then if the estate in property could ESCHEAT to the Grantor then the Grantor issued a "stings attached - Revocable" grant. Sort of like Liberty.

Check me out concerning Liberty it does not mean what most think - it is a revocable grant. Just check out that "smurf hat".

So then if I receive a grant with possibility of Escheatment, then was that grant by Bargain or Gift? Equity begs a Bargain. Even if the equity is future performance.

The Grantor ALREADY has a reversionary interest! Let me flip it around and re-examine.

I am holding property, I carve out an estate in the property and grant it to you for the uses I established. Now then was the grant in Gift or in Equity? If the former, then you must prove that I made an Irrevocable no strings attached grant. If the latter, what was the consideration of the grant? And if in Equity, I as Grantor might still retain the right of Escheatment should you lack an heir or valid claimant or you make a use in rebellion to the bylaws governing the grant.

The FEE is a QUALIFIED estate in allodial. I did not say it was allodial property. The property remains in the Grantor, the Estate is in the Tenant. This is a Feudal system and I find said system is being used widely today. Even though most deny it. I see American Serfs.

A grant begs a Trust - the Property remains in the Grantor - the Estate in the Grantee. Now did the grantee obtain a gift or an Equity?

Now lets say I am holding an interest in the Res held in Trust.

Question: Do I hold title to the Res?
Answer: No.

For instance if I have a Security Interest in an estate, I do not have title UNLESS it is pledged as collateral for the loan.

A gift MUST be expressly stipulated as such - else a reversionary interest in the grant remains. IF a Birth Certificate denotes citizenry [corporate] can that citizenry be terminated? You know the answer - OF COURSE it can! Therefore since the Grantor [State] has the ability to terminate the Grant what does that tell you?

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
05-27-14, 04:51 PM
Let us therefore take this to its logical conclusion. In Rebellion the State or King - becomes Richer! BECAUSE in rebellion the Estates would Escheat back to the Grantor and the Grantor if State or King would be justified to smash such rebellion with force.

Therefore is it in the interest of the State to establish peace or to instill rebellion? I see a BUSINESS PLAN at work. How about you?

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

David Merrill
05-27-14, 08:47 PM
Prison is a strong deterrent.

Redeem Lawful Money by Demand, that is the remedy Congress wrote for you in 1913.




OK... then why would not this UCC-3 Assignment (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_anNydVNpU3YzTjQ/edit?usp=sharing), along with the original associated indorsed bill (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_am15WWcxdHA0TmM/edit?usp=sharing) (proposed usufruct indorsement (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SU1mV2Q0LXRneGc/edit?usp=sharing)) as the instrument of transfer of equitable title to reversionary interest (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_dzg4dVBqZW1PRDQ/edit?usp=sharing) (remainderman) in a res (credit amount on the bill due to the people who are ultimately the acknowledged source of all credit of the nation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_cWdjRFJGenN4N0U/edit?usp=sharing)), effect a "full acquittance and discharge (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_RUEyZDNxYThaVEU/edit?usp=sharing)" of said bill in lawful money (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_N3o4SXRfRTJLT1U/edit?usp=sharing) of exchange, dollar for dollar, as provided by the INTENT in the terms of the expressed trust known as HJR 192, June 5, 1933 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SE80RkxSWEdUZ1k/edit?usp=sharing), when said instrument is deposited as lawful money in any Federal Reserve bank or member bank (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_VGlPVUd5QUJEUTA/edit?usp=sharing) ?

Isn't such assignment just a ratification of the "for-giveness" birth pledge?



NOTE: UCC-3 Acknowledgement is sent to Office of Alien Property (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_VDJtRUppODN1cTg/edit?usp=sharing) per 50 USC App 7(e) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_SzlIWkhsNXZoQms/edit?usp=sharing), with Stuart F. Delery (http://www.justice.gov/civil/common/meet.html) as current officeholder.

NOTE: The above is for education only - not for execution - no legal advice given.

David Merrill
05-27-14, 08:50 PM
Equity begs a Bargain.


Therefore US Notes in the form of Federal Reserve Notes are non-negotiable. - You cannot trade them up for a bargain in equity. It is an irresponsible fiduciary who trades down in value.

doug555
05-27-14, 10:17 PM
Prison is a strong deterrent.

Redeem Lawful Money by Demand, that is the remedy Congress wrote for you in 1913.

... and 12 USC 95a (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title12/pdf/USCODE-2011-title12-chap2-subchapIV-sec95a.pdf) is NOT a remedy Congress wrote in 1917, amended in 1933, and is still in force today, and even has an immunity clause?!

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doug555
05-27-14, 10:46 PM
In my opinion:

If i am holding both the legal estate and the equitable estate it can be said I have an allodial Fee Simple Estate. I did not say I have allodial property rights. There is a big difference! Now then if the estate in property could ESCHEAT to the Grantor then the Grantor issued a "stings attached - Revocable" grant. Sort of like Liberty.

Check me out concerning Liberty it does not mean what most think - it is a revocable grant. Just check out that "smurf hat".

So then if I receive a grant with possibility of Escheatment, then was that grant by Bargain or Gift? Equity begs a Bargain. Even if the equity is future performance.

The Grantor ALREADY has a reversionary interest! Let me flip it around and re-examine.

I am holding property, I carve out an estate in the property and grant it to you for the uses I established. Now then was the grant in Gift or in Equity? If the former, then you must prove that I made an Irrevocable no strings attached grant. If the latter, what was the consideration of the grant? And if in Equity, I as Grantor might still retain the right of Escheatment should you lack an heir or valid claimant or you make a use in rebellion to the bylaws governing the grant.

The FEE is a QUALIFIED estate in allodial. I did not say it was allodial property. The property remains in the Grantor, the Estate is in the Tenant. This is a Feudal system and I find said system is being used widely today. Even though most deny it. I see American Serfs.

A grant begs a Trust - the Property remains in the Grantor - the Estate in the Grantee. Now did the grantee obtain a gift or an Equity?

Now lets say I am holding an interest in the Res held in Trust.

Question: Do I hold title to the Res?
Answer: No.

For instance if I have a Security Interest in an estate, I do not have title UNLESS it is pledged as collateral for the loan.

A gift MUST be expressly stipulated as such - else a reversionary interest in the grant remains. IF a Birth Certificate denotes citizenry [corporate] can that citizenry be terminated? You know the answer - OF COURSE it can! Therefore since the Grantor [State] has the ability to terminate the Grant what does that tell you?

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Why even issue a birth certificate and let the man hold it?

What is the man holding?

It certainly is not LEGAL title... that is obvious.

Then it must be some interest in EQUITABLE title.

The pledge of the labor of the child was registered under the INFANT.

The Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) is evidence of that pledge.

When did the man ever make good on that pledge? Ever????

Must not the man, in the name of the INFANT, authorized by being the HOLDER of the COLB, divest the INFANT of all interest in that labor in order to ratify and complete that pledge? Much like making good on a pledge to United Way by writing them a check? Except the man is truly exchanging substance (labor) for substance (goods/services) by demanding lawful money for the exchange transaction.

So, how is that divestiture done?

Does not the method outlined in Post #92 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1146-Usufruct-Surrender-Remedy&p=14124&viewfull=1#post14124) accomplish that divestiture, and make good on the birth pledge by effecting a MERGER of the usufruct? (cf. II. Merger below)

("Divestitive Facts" source link) (http://books.google.com/books?id=a92bAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA404&lpg=PA404&dq=naked+owner+usufruct&source=bl&ots=86TTaTfGJr&sig=z-IPJZIScyNMvrvMWJEbtNb9vdU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HJ82UM_uF5OY9QSN7oG4AQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=naked%20owner%20usufruct&f=false)

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Michael Joseph
05-27-14, 11:52 PM
Why even issue a birth certificate and let the man hold it?

What is the man holding?

It certainly is not LEGAL title... that is obvious.

Then it must be some interest in EQUITABLE title.

The pledge of the labor of the child was registered under the INFANT.

The Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) is evidence of that pledge.

When did the man ever make good on that pledge? Ever????

Must not the man, in the name of the INFANT, authorized by being the HOLDER of the COLB, divest the INFANT of all interest in that labor in order to ratify and complete that pledge? Much like making good on a pledge to United Way by writing them a check? Except the man is truly exchanging substance (labor) for substance (goods/services) by demanding lawful money for the exchange transaction.

So, how is that divestiture done?

Does not the method outlined in Post #92 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1146-Usufruct-Surrender-Remedy&p=14124&viewfull=1#post14124) accomplish that divestiture, and make good on the birth pledge?

Okay let me flip the argument - a child born to a man and woman thru the office of a midwife absent a BC - is that child a citizen of the State? Flip it over, a child born in a hospital thru the use of a nurse/doctor is that child a citizen of a State?

When and where did the child or man make a pledge to the State constitution? So this certificate does have value as it is an access easement as it were into the State. I have heard that one can even travel abroad using a BC and DL in the stead of a passport.

I did not say the BC had monetary value - but I said it was valuable in terms of benefit in State. I have traveled all over the world and I can tell you there are places I have been that when I got back home I went into my prayer closet and THANKED GOD I live where I do.

I don't buy assignment of a BC. One lady I know listened to some guru who talked her into "closing the account". She received a letter stating it is a felony for her to use the SSN assigned to that Name. Another young man that I know did this as well before he was 18 and he received the same letter.

While I do agree an Interest IN an estate is assignable I wonder why? I suppose that under common law the father would have the right to pledge his child. We see this in Samuel, yes? He was pledged to God's service. Did anyone ask Samuel? No.

What INFANT are you talking of - the heir or the child that received the BC? Of course you realize this is all being done under PERSOPHONE - Queen of the dead! Her arms pointing east to Rome. For she stands upon the Image.

1771

So let me see if I have this right. The government sells bonds to foreignors - that would be me and you - and then they tell us that the bond represents a claim upon the Treasury. Now then IF I am subject to that government then if I buy a bond does not that make me a Lender? And what does the Scripture say? Does it not say the borrower is slave to the lender?

I find peace in simplicity.

Now then I have a friend who listened to a "guru" who told him to ASSIGN all of his interests in the SSN account to the SSA. So my dear friend wrote the SSA as he was "under the influence" if you get what I mean and he tried to assign his interest. Well years went by and recently he called me and showed me what he had done. Laughing I asked him if he thought he could assign something that did not belong to him. Puzzled I asked him if he made a copy of both sides of the SSN card - the guru told him to do so which was good. Turning it over I read the card was PROPERTY - but dear Reader - Property is NOT Estate and it is NOT interest in Estate.

So we just called up the SSA and because he had worked 40 Quarters, we asked for a written agreement, we made the demand for lawful money and BAM the check was in the mail.

Doug you have studied the Bible. Do the sons of Cain strike you as ones who might share the wealth? Slavery is their way of doing business. Let me rephrase. Only a few can truly buy and sell - BECAUSE they have the Mark.

Please would someone tell me what is the goal?

You keep mentioning the INFANT - this must be the heir. So I think it is pretty safe to say that it is assumed that everything I do for gain is to enrich my estate for the benefit of MYSELF and MY HEIRS. So in that framing [in regard to the Estate in Name] - I would be Trustee as I undertake in the Public and Grantor in regard to the Cestui Que Trust. As my heir has an interest. Beneficiaries are my heirs and/or assigns.

I am reminded at once of the Prodigal Son who told his dad - I wish you were dead! Give me my inheritance now - I don't want to wait. Perhaps that son is disinherited by his dad. Under Roman Civil Law I might assign my estate to a stranger without my posterity.

Where did I gain access to Property? I lack a claim. Do you suppose I pledge the entire Estate to the Treasury? For what cause? And what assurances do you have for me such that I might perform the office of husband and father to my wife and family?

Wherein is the Agreement? Where are the terms made known? All I see for the past eight years is men grasping at straws. In the hope of a utopian society. I wonder who might be compelled to farm [grow food] in this society? I am reminded instantly of Rome.

The guru's that say a Trust ALWAYS splits titles are not correct. I can think of many Trust Agreements that do not split titles. In fact in many cases the Trustee holds BOTH the Legal and Equitable Titles and the Beneficiary is left with Personalty by Contract/Covenant. The trustee will issue a Certificate to the Beneficiary to indicate interest in the Trust but it is up to the discretion of the Trustee to make any disbursements if any.

I will read that post. If it is a long one give me some time to comment - this is a busy week.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

P.S. I believe Cain understood blood atonement. And he was discouraged when he brought his very best - but it was absent blood. Don't you think it strange that Cain was not put to death for Murder? I will put it to you - I think Cain thought he would kill Abel as the ultimate sacrifice - shedding of blood. I think this is so because we don't see Cain in any way showing himself as guilty in regard to his conscience. I think he believed he was righteous in his slaying of Abel.

Clearly the Law was explained in Eden so why wasn't Cain guilty of Murder? He planned it, he lied in wait and he executed the killing of his brother Abel. Yet he, Cain was not sentenced to death. Seems strange, yes? For God's Law is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow. So was Cain's conscience clear? I think so. I believe Cain thought he was pleasing to God in the slaying of Abel.

What else about Cain - Eve certainly noticed something DIFFERENT about Cain for she did not have the same report concerning his twin - Abel.

Consider now where you place your trust. Those who are "led by the Spirit of God may call themselves the sons of God". The engineer in me sees that name as a Check Valve. Information flows in one direction only. I think a day comes when the controllers will back flush the line and open up the valve and prosperity will be poured out on the people - but this too is a snare.

David Merrill
05-27-14, 11:59 PM
Prison is a strong deterrent.

Redeem Lawful Money by Demand, that is the remedy Congress wrote for you in 1913.... and 12 USC 95a (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title12/pdf/USCODE-2011-title12-chap2-subchapIV-sec95a.pdf) is NOT a remedy Congress wrote in 1917, amended in 1933, and is still in force today, and even has an immunity clause?!

1769


I was referring to Title 12 USC §411 from the 1913 Federal Reserve Act - §16.

David Merrill
05-28-14, 12:54 AM
Okay let me flip the argument - a child born to a man and woman thru the office of a midwife absent a BC - is that child a citizen of the State? Flip it over, a child born in a hospital thru the use of a nurse/doctor is that child a citizen of a State?

When and where did the child or man make a pledge to the State constitution? So this certificate does have value as it is an access easement as it were into the State. I have heard that one can even travel abroad using a BC and DL in the stead of a passport.

I did not say the BC had monetary value - but I said it was valuable in terms of benefit in State. I have traveled all over the world and I can tell you there are places I have been that when I got back home I went into my prayer closet and THANKED GOD I live where I do.

I don't buy assignment of a BC. One lady I know listened to some guru who talked her into "closing the account". She received a letter stating it is a felony for her to use the SSN assigned to that Name. Another young man that I know did this as well before he was 18 and he received the same letter.

While I do agree an Interest IN an estate is assignable I wonder why? I suppose that under common law the father would have the right to pledge his child. We see this in Samuel, yes? He was pledged to God's service. Did anyone ask Samuel? No.

What INFANT are you talking of - the heir or the child that received the BC? Of course you realize this is all being done under PERSOPHONE - Queen of the dead! Her arms pointing east to Rome. For she stands upon the Image.

1771

So let me see if I have this right. The government sells bonds to foreignors - that would be me and you - and then they tell us that the bond represents a claim upon the Treasury. Now then IF I am subject to that government then if I buy a bond does not that make me a Lender? And what does the Scripture say? Does it not say the borrower is slave to the lender?

I find peace in simplicity.

Now then I have a friend who listened to a "guru" who told him to ASSIGN all of his interests in the SSN account to the SSA. So my dear friend wrote the SSA as he was "under the influence" if you get what I mean and he tried to assign his interest. Well years went by and recently he called me and showed me what he had done. Laughing I asked him if he thought he could assign something that did not belong to him. Puzzled I asked him if he made a copy of both sides of the SSN card - the guru told him to do so which was good. Turning it over I read the card was PROPERTY - but dear Reader - Property is NOT Estate and it is NOT interest in Estate.

So we just called up the SSA and because he had worked 40 Quarters, we asked for a written agreement, we made the demand for lawful money and BAM the check was in the mail.

Doug you have studied the Bible. Do the sons of Cain strike you as ones who might share the wealth? Slavery is their way of doing business. Let me rephrase. Only a few can truly buy and sell - BECAUSE they have the Mark.

Please would someone tell me what is the goal?

You keep mentioning the INFANT - this must be the heir. So I think it is pretty safe to say that it is assumed that everything I do for gain is to enrich my estate for the benefit of MYSELF and MY HEIRS. So in that framing - I would be Trustee as I undertake in the Public and Grantor in regard to the Cestui Que Trust. As my heir has an interest. Beneficiaries are my heirs and/or assigns.

I am reminded at once of the Prodigal Son who told his dad - I wish you were dead! Give me my inheritance now - I don't want to wait. Perhaps that son is disinherited by his dad. Under Roman Civil Law I might assign my estate to a stranger without my posterity.

Where did I gain access to Property? I lack a claim. Do you suppose I pledge the entire Estate to the Treasury? For what cause? And what assurances do you have for me such that I might perform the office of husband and father to my wife and family?

Wherein is the Agreement? Where are the terms made known? All I see for the past eight years is men grasping at straws. In the hope of a utopian society. I wonder who might be compelled to farm [grow food] in this society? I am reminded instantly of Rome.

The guru's that say a Trust ALWAYS splits titles are not correct. I can think of many Trust Agreements that do not split titles. In fact in many cases the Trustee holds BOTH the Legal and Equitable Titles and the Beneficiary is left with Personalty by Contract/Covenant. The trustee will issue a Certificate to the Beneficiary to indicate interest in the Trust but it is up to the discretion of the Trustee to make any disbursements if any.

I will read that post. If it is a long one give me some time to comment - this is a busy week.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph


Being that §501(c)(3) is not the ecclesia, I have been prompted just today to form the church - the true church at that. Furthermore I have been attending Bible Study, unwittingly preparing myself for just that.

Sunday night in the Bible Study, the leader/pastor and a couple others were preaching to me about the Christian doctrine of sacrifice, futurism and several other folly arguments. Understand that this is in the same breath as the Prodigal Son parable. - Emphasis on the unconditional and consistent love of the Father being representing of God's love.

Now what that does is gets me thinking, If I were in a position to preach the correct rendition of God's Word, and be ministering to the Christians about their folly what exactly would I say to be convincing? Well, I should start when I asked the Holy Spirit for guidance during my lecture; excuse me, the sermon.

I like this method - my Bible fell open to Acts, Chapter 22. Somehow it seems to me that I have never had a Red Ink rendition with Jesus speaking in red font for this particular chapter before. Paul is recounting his early journey to Rome and says that while in a trance Jesus spoke to him and warned him, [I]Get out of Jerusalem. Well, if Paul was obedient to Jesus then he would not have been convicted of treason and had to run to Felix to hide from the Sanhedrin in jail, eventually ending up in Rome under that same protective custody, living on the Roman taxpayer dole...

But that is how it happened folks! Paul wrote the epistles forming the Christian religious formula simply because he disobeyed Jesus!

The reason I requested guidance in the first place is that through gossip behind my back (mostly from Christianity Explored - a program at that church) these guys knew I am not a fan of sacrifice, and born-in-sin guilt trips. So they were battering me with Paul's teachings about being cleansed in Jesus' shed blood; which to me is just a continuation of the sacrificial laws but with the Substitution of Jesus as the Perfect Sacrificial Lamb. So imagine my (NOT) surprise when the Holy Spirit opens my Bible to see that - Paul created Christianity as it is through disobedience to Jesus!!

There is another author who wrote though - most Bible historians proclaim that The Book of Hebrews was written by another author, more like two authors, neither one was Paul. Here we learn a ministry of Remembrance. - Not sacrifice, but remembrance.

We get distinct reference to Melchizedek, rather than the function of the Priests from Levi - appointed for the blood sacrifice. If I was to start a cult tomorrow, I think that might be where I would start.

The other item I found offensive about the Original Sin doctrine was the idea that God is angered - much less wrathful. What this does is project lower dimensional attributes like fear and anger on to a supernatural super-being - God. This is contrary to God being unending perpetual Love. The Father in the Prodigal Son parable was never angry. Even to the son who remained at home and "faithful" - the Father went out to find him, missing the party for the prodigal son, to see what was wrong. The Father did not send a servant to go summon the other son and he met the angered resentful son with the same unconditional love that he had for the returning prodigal son! There was never a lapse in the Father's Love.

I am not saying that God is pleased by sin, or even complacent. What I am saying is the suffering we feel due to our sins is a consequence of law - not because the Creator of the Universe feels anger. We project that "anger" upon God as we feel fear ourselves, as an ego-driven emotion.

Then moving on, the Christians were affirming to one another that God does not need us for ANYTHING!

I beg to differ. God needs us to have any meaning. Think this through though please. To have meaning one must be attributing the existence of that - meaning - into the conscious cognizance of another. So without us, for God to have any meaning He would have to create another cognizant being beside you and me. So without the Created, the Creator has no meaning by definition of meaning.

Perhaps I am over thinking things but I figure that is why I have a brain.



P.S. Paul's excuse for staying in Jerusalem and facing trial by the Sanhedrin was a guilt trip he had for his involvement stoning Stephen. You have therefore a major religion promoting blood sacrifice, even a surrogate human blood sacrifice caused by disobedience to Jesus because of a self-imposed guilt trip!

Michael Joseph
05-28-14, 12:56 AM
Ah I see. Have you ever wondered why there is a County Attorney? I see WARDS. So I got rid of the presumption by writing the Attorney and demanding he produce evidence of the contract, trust etc. issued to the livery of michael joseph.

Funny thing, there was no response. A self executing judgment. Let God judge between ye and me this day.

1772


Shalom,
Michael Joseph

David Merrill
05-28-14, 01:25 AM
Ah I see. Have you ever wondered why there is a County Attorney? I see WARDS. So I got rid of the presumption by writing the Attorney and demanding he produce evidence of the contract, trust etc. issued to the livery of michael joseph.

Funny thing, there was no response. A self executing judgment. Let God judge between ye and me this day.

1772


Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Thank you Michael Joseph.

allodial
05-28-14, 01:52 AM
David Merrill your recent post struck note of reminder of a perceived parallel. Many so-called "African-Americans" who have never been to Africa and who might be from America rather than America seem to be stuck in a mindset of the freshly freed slave or kidnapped-child-grown-up-but-doesn't-know-where-he-is-from. "Who will tell the slave he is free?" is a question. But another, "Who will tell his children and their children and their children's children that they are freeborn?" (Until then they can confess against themselves on government forms [i.e. check 'negro' (meaning slave), perhaps some bureaucrats mused back in the 50s--until they figure it out if they ever do)].

1773

I find much of what is being passed off as "Christianity" in the sense of Jesus (Y'shua's/Joshua's) Christ's teachings might have a parallel in the above in that many seem to be caught up in a pre-endued-from-on-high, pre-crucifixion and pre-70-AD reality Mobius loop.


The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (KJV - Luke 17:21 (http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/17.htm))

Michael Joseph
05-28-14, 02:08 AM
Being that §501(c)(3) is not the ecclesia, I have been prompted just today to form the church - the true church at that. Furthermore I have been attending Bible Study, unwittingly preparing myself for just that.

Sunday night in the Bible Study, the leader/pastor and a couple others were preaching to me about the Christian doctrine of sacrifice, futurism and several other folly arguments. Understand that this is in the same breath as the Prodigal Son parable. - Emphasis on the unconditional and consistent love of the Father being representing of God's love.

Now what that does is gets me thinking, If I were in a position to preach the correct rendition of God's Word, and be ministering to the Christians about their folly what exactly would I say to be convincing? Well, I should start when I asked the Holy Spirit for guidance during my lecture; excuse me, the sermon.

I like this method - my Bible fell open to Acts, Chapter 22. Somehow it seems to me that I have never had a Red Ink rendition with Jesus speaking in red font for this particular chapter before. Paul is recounting his early journey to Rome and says that while in a trance Jesus spoke to him and warned him, Get out of Jerusalem. Well, if Paul was obedient to Jesus then he would not have been convicted of treason and had to run to Felix to hide from the Sanhedrin in jail, eventually ending up in Rome under that same protective custody, living on the Roman taxpayer dole...

But that is how it happened folks! Paul wrote the epistles forming the Christian religious formula simply because he disobeyed Jesus!

The reason I requested guidance in the first place is that through gossip behind my back (mostly from Christianity Explored - a program at that church) these guys knew I am not a fan of sacrifice, and born-in-sin guilt trips. So they were battering me with Paul's teachings about being cleansed in Jesus' shed blood; which to me is just a continuation of the sacrificial laws but with the Substitution of Jesus as the Perfect Sacrificial Lamb. So imagine my (NOT) surprise when the Holy Spirit opens my Bible to see that - Paul created Christianity as it is through disobedience to Jesus!!

There is another author who wrote though - most Bible historians proclaim that The Book of Hebrews was written by another author, more like two authors, neither one was Paul. Here we learn a ministry of Remembrance. - Not sacrifice, but remembrance.

We get distinct reference to Melchizedek, rather than the function of the Priests from Levi - appointed for the blood sacrifice. If I was to start a cult tomorrow, I think that might be where I would start.

The other item I found offensive about the Original Sin doctrine was the idea that God is angered - much less wrathful. What this does is project lower dimensional attributes like fear and anger on to a supernatural super-being - God. This is contrary to God being unending perpetual Love. The Father in the Prodigal Son parable was never angry. Even to the son who remained at home and "faithful" - the Father went out to find him, missing the party for the prodigal son, to see what was wrong. The Father did not send a servant to go summon the other son and he met the angered resentful son with the same unconditional love that he had for the returning prodigal son! There was never a lapse in the Father's Love.

I am not saying that God is pleased by sin, or even complacent. What I am saying is the suffering we feel due to our sins is a consequence of law - not because the Creator of the Universe feels anger. We project that "anger" upon God as we feel fear ourselves, as an ego-driven emotion.

Then moving on, the Christians were affirming to one another that God does not need us for ANYTHING!

I beg to differ. God needs us to have any meaning. Think this through though please. To have meaning one must be attributing the existence of that - meaning - into the conscious cognizance of another. So without us, for God to have any meaning He would have to create another cognizant being beside you and me. So without the Created, the Creator has no meaning by definition of meaning.

Perhaps I am over thinking things but I figure that is why I have a brain.



P.S. Paul's excuse for staying in Jerusalem and facing trial by the Sanhedrin was a guilt trip he had for his involvement stoning Stephen. You have therefore a major religion promoting blood sacrifice, even a surrogate human blood sacrifice caused by disobedience to Jesus because of a self-imposed guilt trip!


I might debate your findings but consider that God NEVER wanted blood - this is why Isaiah was so shaken up. However sin has consequence and I find the model of blood sacrifice of an INNOCENT animal interesting. Atonement is not within the sinners grasp.

And therefore something greater must redeem the lesser. Therefore we see in the flesh of Christ Jesus the making of Peace by establishment of a covenant in blood. I see the Covenant between El Elyon and Yehovah. So that the reader might not be confused Yehovah in the OFFICE of the Son took the name Yehoshuah [Hebrew Name].

In the Aramaic Language : Yeshua
In the Greek Language : Iousus
In the English Language : Jesus

That names are Transliterations but they all mean Yehovah is Salvation. Which comports with Psalm 27:1.

Therefore Yehoshuah has the Agreement with El Elyon to redeem all those who place their trust in Him. How that agreement was struck was between El Elyon and Yehoshuah.

Therefore I look onto Yehoshuah as my Savior. Now Christ Jesus made peace in Covenant with El Elyon [a body thou hast prepared for me] and was glorified as Jesus Christ. I see The Word made Flesh.

An anti-Christ by definition of the Word is one that denies that Christ Jesus, The Word, came in the Flesh, was crucified and resurrected.

Consider the depth of the Trust the man Christ Jesus placed in El Elyon. For he read "Thou art a priest Forever after the order of Melchizedok". This time - looking back upon Abraham - no substitution would be made - the Lamb was provided by the Father to provide the Purchase [ransom].

El Elyon is righteous. If a King issues forth a Law it stands forever. Those who thought to overcome El Elyon sought to bind El Elyon in the Law of the Kingdom. Therefore I look onto the blood of Yehoshuah as the means by which He made peace with El Elyon.

Now then, where does that leave me? I am now a free moral agent - free to engage any suitor. However being wooed by The Word I drink of the "communion cup" which is my PLEDGE to Yehoshuah that I intend to make myself clean, in the purification process so that I might qualify to be one of the many called - but even more - one that is chosen to be Bride.

The Bride is the Priest in the Order of Melchizedok. I look upon Yehoshuah, sinless under the Law, innocent. And I see the lesser [me] is redeemed by the greater [Him]. So then, placing my trust in Him, I am made subject to His Administration. Which is to say - I shall take my Orders by the Holy Spirit.

For Sin is the transgression of the Law and I am commanded go forth and sin no more! I am also told when I do sin, to be faithful to confess my sin and He is faithful to forgive. Now then Yehoshuah has the Contract; therefore He has the rights to forgive. The Law is set to govern the wicked; however, I do not seek to Trespass my Redeemer as I undertake in this Realm for His Kingdom.

Now if I am required to confess my sin; and sin is transgression of the Law, THEN I am required to know the Law. Now the one who is led by the Holy Spirit may entitle himself a Son of God. That one is Recreated as ROYALTY - a member of the Household of Elohim.

Therefore fundamentally the Contract is in Yehoshuah. That contract was established by El Elyon with Yehoshuah. Therefore noone comes to El Elyon except by and thru Yehoshuah. Which is to say one must put their trust in The Word of God.

Therefore Yehoshuah is my Passover. For if I am in Yehoshuah, then El Elyon sees His contract with Yehoshuah. I am therefore "dead in Yehoshuah" - which is to say my life is placed in Trust with Yehoshuah. Why is this so? Because in sin, I lack the ability to atone for myself and as such, I am doomed absent a Redeemer; and, furthermore, I lack a contract with El Elyon.

For the Father, El Elyon, stipulated no man comes to Him except thru the Son, Yehoshuah. Therefore I find that Yehoshuah was annointed with the oil of gladness ABOVE his fellows.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith [El Elyon speaking], Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God [the Son], even thy God [El Elyon], hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Therefore it is the vanity of man to think he can "buy his stairway to heaven" - there is but one path, one Redeemer.


Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
05-28-14, 02:21 AM
I might debate your findings but consider that God NEVER wanted blood


I feel after re-reading this post that I should clarify.

In the first creation there was no flesh. But there was an apostasy and mankind was created. This is the current age. And man was made subject to vanity in hope that man would choose God and not flesh. A TEST.

So we see Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. But we see the Mystery is couched in flesh and blood. For when man made his choice to court another suitor, he became an outlaw in regard to God's Kingdom. Therefore Yehovah Elohim instituted blood sacrifices to teach the rebellious children.

What I mean is it was NEVER the intention that the angels should fall. As such, this Age while a contingency, was not the original plan. But I see El Elyon and the Word in Contract even before the first Age. El Elyon made all things by and thru Yehovah. Therefore Yehovah has the surety for the creation. In the office of the Son, Yehovah understood the creation so that all might be gathered back to El Elyon. Notice since the creation is in Rebellion, all Escheats back to the Creator.

Heb 7:22 By so much hath Yehoshuah become a surety of a better covenant.

Therefore:

Act 17:28 For by Him we live, and move, and are; .....



Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
05-28-14, 03:02 AM
acknowledged source of all credit of the nation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_cWdjRFJGenN4N0U/edit?usp=sharing))

I don't follow your logic in stating that the "people of the Nation" are the creditors. The Congressman said that money was issued by the United States. Now the United States has its own independent citizenry with its own Constitution. And the States have their own citizenry with their own Constitutions.

The compact between the United States and the States is reflected in the Constitution of the United States. But which Nation is the congressman talking about? Go to Laws of Nations. And specifically "Moral Person".

=======

§ 1.What is meant by the term nation or state.

Nations or States are political bodies, societies of men who have united together and combined
their forces, in order to procure their mutual welfare and security.

§ 2. It is a moral person.

Such a society has its own affairs and interests; it deliberates and takes resolutions in common,
and it thus becomes a moral person having an understanding and a will peculiar to itself, and
susceptible at once of obligations and of rights.

=======

Now clearly I have shown that the United States is its own Moral Person. And each State is its own Moral Person. Therefore I beg again - what Nation is the dear congressman speaking to?

Surely a lawyer would not be lazy with words. And I find it peculiar that the word [noun] Nation is capitalized. I mean for what cause would such a noun be capitalized? It is not capitalized above in § 1.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
05-28-14, 05:32 AM
David Merrill your recent post struck note of reminder of a perceived parallel. Many so-called "African-Americans" who have never been to Africa and who might be from America rather than America seem to be stuck in a mindset of the freshly freed slave or kidnapped-child-grown-up-but-doesn't-know-where-he-is-from. "Who will tell the slave he is free?" is a question. But another, "Who will tell his children and their children and their children's children that they are freeborn?" (Until then they can confess against themselves on government forms [i.e. check 'negro' (meaning slave), perhaps some bureaucrats mused back in the 50s--until they figure it out if they ever do)].

1773

I find much of what is being passed off as "Christianity" in the sense of Jesus (Y'shua's/Joshua's) Christ's teachings might have a parallel in the above in that many seem to be caught up in a pre-endued-from-on-high, pre-crucifixion and pre-70-AD reality Mobius loop.


From Blacks 5th

AMERICAN (http://www.mindserpent.com/American_History/reference/1979_Black_5/1979_Black_5_index.html) = of or pertaining to the United States

A child is OF his parent.

Shalom,
MJ

David Merrill
05-28-14, 10:58 AM
I feel after re-reading this post that I should clarify.

In the first creation there was no flesh. But there was an apostasy and mankind was created. This is the current age. And man was made subject to vanity in hope that man would choose God and not flesh. A TEST.

So we see Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. But we see the Mystery is couched in flesh and blood. For when man made his choice to court another suitor, he became an outlaw in regard to God's Kingdom. Therefore Yehovah Elohim instituted blood sacrifices to teach the rebellious children.

What I mean is it was NEVER the intention that the angels should fall. As such, this Age while a contingency, was not the original plan. But I see El Elyon and the Word in Contract even before the first Age. El Elyon made all things by and thru Yehovah. Therefore Yehovah has the surety for the creation. In the office of the Son, Yehovah understood the creation so that all might be gathered back to El Elyon. Notice since the creation is in Rebellion, all Escheats back to the Creator.

Heb 7:22 By so much hath Yehoshuah become a surety of a better covenant.

Therefore:

Act 17:28 For by Him we live, and move, and are; .....



Shalom,
Michael Joseph

I will attempt to understand this post by attempting to explain it to the Readers a little more clearly:

For example I have these books by RH CHARLES (file:///F:/favorite%20programs/Pocket%20PC/bibles/The%20Book%20of%20Enoch,%20Section%20I.htm) on my shelf. The other folly I witnessed in the Bible Study was a pastor explaining that God brought us up so evolved that we are aware of the passing of time, unlike the animals. Whereas for me, time is an illusion that encompasses height, width and depth - and so therefore the world is an illusion. So with this understood I will read your explanation that the Age BEFORE this Age is a simultaneous event on a different plane of existence, that has an effect of people interpreting anthropomorphic figures for what comes out of the emotion - fear. This archetype has been in the human mind since a couple hundred years before CHRIST.

At least that is the rationale I must place around the widespread Christian belief that 1/3 of the angels fell in the Lucifer Rebellion when there are about three verses canonized to support it. Little do most Christians know they are citing The Book of Enoch to even speak of such things.

Jesus Lives!! Jesus never died. None of us ever die. There is only the illusion of separation, sin. If one lives by law then that should come off as offending the law. If one lives in love, then one loves the LORD thy God with all thine heart, mind, strength and soul. And of course one loves thy neighbor as thy self. Fear becomes a foreign state. Joy becomes the natural and original state.

allodial
05-28-14, 11:43 AM
Whereas for me, time is an illusion that encompasses height, width and depth - and so therefore the world is an illusion. So with this understood I will read your explanation that the Age BEFORE this Age is a simultaneous event on a different plane of existence, that has an effect of people interpreting anthropomorphic figures for what comes out of the emotion - fear. This archetype has been in the human mind since a couple hundred years before CHRIST.

And perhaps that is about where allegory meets reality--pearls of wisdom like motifs in music. Those who might be caught up in a pre-kingdom, pre-endued-with-power, pre-resurrection mindset or time loop might still be waiting for the first opportunity they can find to point to the Kingdom's arrival (i.e. waiting to enter in) rather than experiencing the joy and splendor of proving it daily.


Consider the Lillies how they growe, they toile not; they spinne not: and yet I say vnto you, that Solomon in all his glory, was not arayed like one of these.


f one lives in love, then one loves the LORD thy God with all thine heart, mind, strength and soul. And of course one loves thy neighbor as thy self. Fear becomes a foreign state. Joy becomes the natural and original state.

I must concur as to my observations.


From Blacks 5th

AMERICAN (http://www.mindserpent.com/American_History/reference/1979_Black_5/1979_Black_5_index.html) = of or pertaining to the United States

A child is OF his parent.

Shalom,
MJ

The word "of" AFAIK can refer to association as well. Clearly, from Black's 5th the state officer has his meaning when he says "American". Of course in reality the United States != America.

David Merrill
05-28-14, 02:30 PM
Of course a better understanding is gained by reading The Book of Enoch and so gaining an evolving comprehension of Transfiguration. Elijah was also transfigured so we have a mode of being that transcends time in demonstration.

Moses died albeit there is a reference to his transfiguration in the Gospels - a riddle. In the Book of Jude we find debate about his dead body. - A key to solving the riddle.

What most people do not realize is that there are two Enochs in the Bible - in Genesis and the Enoch being referred to in Jude is the Sons of God, not the Sons of Cain. Both carry the same oth - oath (mark or stigma) emblazoned on each by the same God. So it is interesting that those appointed to rule over evil do so with authority.


And perhaps that is about where allegory meets reality--pearls of wisdom like motifs in music.

That is a very enjoyable observation! I like that developed a bit further; that allegorical metaphors are the language we are to learn to develop understanding of the more complex instruction sets from the Holy Spirit.


P.S. For people who cannot find the time to read The Book of Enoch here is a poetic and artistically illustrated rendition (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImZXlUTEozOTBVTHc/edit?).

allodial
06-24-14, 12:57 AM
I had an epiphany re: your comment re: Pythagoras and numerology vs mathematics. Numerology tends to encourage over-emphasis on the tree instead--taking the tree out of the forest, "the Thing" or things out of useful and suggestive context by removing things from scope and place. I suspect some might have trouble getting your idea of meaning of mathematics because mathematics is (errantly) taught as a raw, cold science rather than a linguistic system of symbology for communicating relations, observations..motifs. I suppose it really is a linguistic system for communicating motifs. Its so useful that much effort has been undertaken to dumb folks down to keep them away from it. Numerology is perhaps more like fixation on a single note without regard for context of the 'song' or 'motif' with math being about symbology for describing or motifs that math can be utilized to described.

Q. What is the physicist really doing in penning an equation? A. Expressing in symbology the motifs observed with respect to the given system or phenomenon observed.

At least such might be my opinions.

Related: Decrypting Education in America (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?978-Decrypting-Education-in-America)

Michael Joseph
06-24-14, 02:01 AM
I had an epiphany re: your comment re: Pythagoras and numerology vs mathematics. Numerology tends to encourage over-emphasis on the tree instead--taking the tree out of the forest, "the Thing" or things out of useful and suggestive context by removing things from scope and place. I suspect some might have trouble getting your idea of meaning of mathematics because mathematics is (errantly) taught as a raw, cold science rather than a linguistic system of symbology for communicating relations, observations..motifs. I suppose it really is a linguistic system for communicating motifs. Its so useful that much effort has been undertaken to dumb folks down to keep them away from it. Numerology is perhaps more like fixation on a single note without regard for context of the 'song' or 'motif' with math being about symbology for describing or motifs that math can be utilized to described.

Q. What is the physicist really doing in penning an equation? A. Expressing in symbology the motifs observed with respect to the given system or phenomenon observed.

At least such might be my opinions.

Related: Decrypting Education in America (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?978-Decrypting-Education-in-America)

Hebrew Language (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnwmiT4VsdM&feature=youtube_gdata)

I am not a proponent of Cabala but I am a fan of seeking the knowledge of God. I believe the primary language is mathematics. I find law is simply a study in sets and subsets.

The toroid (http://www.meru.org/Posters/trsknotrngsphere.html)

The eighth is of the seven....

do, re, me, fa, so, la, ti DO

So the eighth being of the seven is a new beginning.

Lev_23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

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Mem-Lamed-Qof

With the hand the man carries the Word of Instruction to the people.

A King - Priest. The order of Melchizedok.

Jesus Christ or Yehoshuah if you prefer has the contract with El Elyon. Therefore my life is in Yehoshuah held in trust. Therefore I am dead in Christ. If I walk in my own authority then I am not in Christ. But if I am in Christ I am subject to his administration. I seek direction from the Holy Spirit.

I see a valley of dry bones. The can only be quickened in Christ. For Jesus Christ has the contract. Finding I cannot atone for myself which that would mean my blood and lacking the contract I have no standing in the court.

Now look at your underwear a curious name indeed FRUIT OF THE LOOM. Man does indeed carry seed.

Physical and Spiritual.

YHVH. Male
EL SHADDAI. Female
EL ELYON. All in All - Majesty

The family of Elohim.

Yes the Kingdom does not come by observation it is within. We are both male and female. For I wish to present you as a chaste virgin ( pure maiden) to Christ. The soul is feminine.

And man BECAME a living soul. Soul is not eternal. Soul is an existence ordained within matter. Spirit exists without matter.

Water may also be a symbol for orders of creation.

Shalom
MJ

Man is a pentagram. Cut open an apple. Therefore understanding Leonardo's man figure is to know that ADAM occupied the entire universe.

David Merrill
06-24-14, 09:35 PM
Man is a pentagram but we find this math is holographic and fractal on all levels and dimensions.



Dr. Linda Darlene GADBOIS: God as our higher self communicates with us intuitively thru allegorical metaphor. If we don't know how to speak the language by being able to interpret and discern its meaning then there is no real means of communication and we fail to see the reality that lies hidden within surface ideas, waiting to be recognized and perceived as real. Shapes and analogies as a series of correspondences, represent formulas as laws all interacting within a situation that forms a dynamic that is ideal for everyone involved at different levels of awareness and as suited to each person's level of consciousness. Thru adaptation that reforms and interprets thru their personal model the same symbol can take on thousands of different meanings, and in some cases, none at all because the person doesn't even recognize them as a language that has deep hidden clues within it revealing operations that would serve as instructions, if, they could only be able to actually perceive them.

I was referring the set of laws that the Golden Mean as a mathematical model represents in terms of regeneration through ratios and equivalents, that form a growth process of an entity or paradigm (mind) that evolves it thru time as a moment-by-moment transformation brought about thru an energetic exchange of influences that modify the mind as an absorption, integration and equilibrating process that forms an endless array of variables as a result. Dreams, as states-of-mind on different planes of consciousness, all of which contain corresponding realities as a form of theme, operate according to the same set of laws! That's why law is considered absolute truth; it operates in a consistent manner on all levels of existence, not just the physical.

We create the reality of dreams as a co-creation with various sources and influences that form modifications just like we do in our waking state. The Laws that govern the energetic realm are universal in nature and permeate all levels of consciousness as a series of analogies and correspondences. The communication from higher realms to lower ones acts as a step-down process similar to translations from one language born out of a particular culture into another language formed by a different cultural conditioning. So not only are the symbols and images essentially different, their meanings in terms of the conceptualized realities they represent are also different. So, the translation has to be an intuitive process that forms imagery into personal experience (imaginary) as a primary means of forming an even more unique interpretation that personalizes the message making it ideal to the individual who acts to co-create it through the process of conceiving it.

David Merrill
06-24-14, 10:38 PM
Or in more mathematical terms when you put five Fibonacci spirals into three dimensions it not only describes the phenomenon of gravity - it clearly shows the human form! [Or would that be more like the Image and Likeness of God?]

allodial
06-26-14, 03:41 AM
I am not a proponent of Cabala but I am a fan of seeking the knowledge of God. I believe the primary language is mathematics. I find law is simply a study in sets and subsets.

I've for some reason gotten the impression that Cabalists tend to fixate on numerology. Also, its interesting how many give funny looks when you tell them math books belong in the language section or that math is a type of linguistics or symbology rather than a "cold naked solitary science in and of itself".

1806

Chemistry equations are said to be of a type of "Clifford Algebra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_algebra)" (a type of 'associative algebra'). They are simply a defined symbology for communicating motifs or observations.

allodial
06-27-14, 12:39 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QY1yv15XwZc/UGEA6ISnKcI/AAAAAAAAB78/xrPe2SkbrB8/s1600/545797_503165386379016_1188018144_n.jpghttp://eofdreams.com/data_images/dreams/hieroglyphs/hieroglyphs-12.jpg

It seems that in strongly classist (i.e. highly stratified) or elitist-peon type societies, the most predominant language was, is or has been hieroglyphic. Perhaps "whole word (https://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/3p.htm)" reading teaching silliness was an effort to turn English words into hieroglyphs for class control (too hard to learn and stifles language-perception dynamics vs phonics).

Consider: Chinese characters, Egyptian hieroglyphs, whole word reading.

Perhaps if mathematics were taught and see widely for what it is, it would be used to cut through much fog. Internationally, mathematics and English are perhaps the most widely-known 'universal languages'.

Related: The Pedagogy of Literacy (John Taylor Gatto) (https://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/3o.htm)

doug555
07-01-14, 10:22 PM
Completing the Usufruct - Video 6/9/14 - Jim Hebin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lq4QVg1E5E)

This post is an effort to get back "on topic" for this thread entitled "Usufruct Surrender Remedy".

Please watch above video and post constructive comments that are on point... Thanks in advance.

P.S. May I suggest that future off-point comments are deliberate attempts to divert and subvert this thread... and will warrant promoting further discussions on http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com)

David Merrill
07-02-14, 12:45 AM
Thank you Doug! I go on tangents.

Moxie
07-02-14, 04:08 AM
1807
Ok now back to the topic

walter
07-02-14, 06:19 PM
Completing the Usufruct - Video 6/9/14 - Jim Hebin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lq4QVg1E5E)



Good video
What this reminds me off is "Avatar" the movie.
"The tree of life" was what the army was trying to destroy.
That was their mistake.
If you destroy the tree of life the whole system crumbles.
When the army tried to do that they shot them self in the foot and were sent back home of the land.

ckeyes06
08-04-14, 02:57 PM
I'm new to this subject and would like for someone to succinctly explain the purpose behind the ucc-1 and ucc-3 documents/filings. The videos, while appreciated, imo are way too informal and there's way too much 'off topic' grand standing/'know-it-all'ing' and interrupting of both Boris & Jim, from the 'audience', to the point where I just had to stop watching.

I'm not nearly as 'advanced' as the other posters on this thread, so if this can be explained so that a 3rd grader can have a baseline level of understanding, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

David Merrill
08-05-14, 02:26 PM
Welcome to StSC Ckeyes06!

You have noticed the same obstruction to learning from Boris' presentations that I have.

doug555
08-05-14, 09:24 PM
I'm new to this subject and would like for someone to succinctly explain the purpose behind the ucc-1 and ucc-3 documents/filings. The videos, while appreciated, imo are way too informal and there's way too much 'off topic' grand standing/'know-it-all'ing' and interrupting of both Boris & Jim, from the 'audience', to the point where I just had to stop watching.

I'm not nearly as 'advanced' as the other posters on this thread, so if this can be explained so that a 3rd grader can have a baseline level of understanding, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Have you read what is on http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com) yet?

After reading that, please present specific on-point questions... either here or there.

doug555
08-09-14, 07:15 PM
Micha - Please check private message to you... Thanks, Doug

doug555
08-19-14, 12:03 AM
Boris audio with Dee 8/15/14 (http://www.iamsomedude.com/audio/2014_08_15_10_37_41.mp3)

A success in Chapter 13 Bankruptcy by surrendering reversionary interest to Trustee of Estate??

More info (usufructremedy.blogspot.com)...

ckeyes06
08-23-14, 03:55 PM
Have you read what is on http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com) yet?

After reading that, please present specific on-point questions... either here or there.

Exactly what is being accomplished by filing out the UCC1 & 3 in the manner that is highlighted within the Usufruct remedy?

Are we saying that the all caps name is not ours and belongs to the federal gov't and therefore any/all obligations that are in the all caps name shall be directed to the fed for discharge? If so, how do the UCC forms accomplish this?

doug555
09-02-14, 12:15 AM
Boris video - New Mexico - 8/23/14
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFJKJHjjKX8s8rsgpSDthHw/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFJKJHjjKX8s8rsgpSDthHw/videos)


Notice 31 USC 5312(a)(2)(K) - defining "Financial institution" as "issuer of... checks..."
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title31/pdf/USCODE-2011-title31-subtitleIV-chap53-subchapII-sec5312.pdf (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title31/pdf/USCODE-2011-title31-subtitleIV-chap53-subchapII-sec5312.pdf)

george
09-02-14, 01:53 AM
Thanks doug555, watching now.

edit: Ok have watched all of the Boris vids now. this latest series is the best so far because its getting more organized and crosstalking is limited.

everyone here should take a serious look at what he is presenting IMO if each of us think we have it all figured out we will become closed minded. Im looking for holes in his philosophy and havent found any but Im no expert. not ready to impliment any steps in this direction but will definitely be studying it more.

I think some of you are making a mistake in discounting it before getting a good look at what is happening here though.

2nd edit: more of Boris on MyPrivateAudio talkshoe call Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:00 PM
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-671301.mp3

doug555
09-13-14, 03:29 AM
The Gathering of the Tribes video on 9/6/14 in Florida is about Boris's and others' latest usufruct insights.

See: http://www.iamsomedude.com/video.html and scroll down to the video links.

I have proposed a "benchmark" template for discussion only (letter (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct-letter.html) & indorsement (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct.html)) that will probably be revised again as I watch this latest video.

A post by John Tanis on another group regarding this can be found here (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/peaceful_inhabitant/conversations/messages/1676).

Notice that the "demanding lawful money for all transactions 12 USC 411" dimension is still missing from their technology... and I believe that could be a fatal defect, since true "payment" requires asset currency.

Constructive comments on this forum would be helpful since Boris has not provided a blog of his own for that yet.

See this book on usufruct (http://books.google.com/books?id=5HgMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA402&lpg=PA402&dq=usufruct+surrender+remedy&source=bl&ots=56ecvQ0X6q&sig=zod9VDs2PKx0GsPzuXgWiryTvSg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j2sUVPjRMrOSsQTX8YKwBw&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=usufruct%20surrender%20remedy&f=false) in Roman Law for good historical background information on this.

Also notice how ICRC recognizes the international application of the "rules of usufruct" at this link (https://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule51_sectionb).

But given the INITIAL CAUSE giving rise to the "rules of usufruct" construct in international affairs, the ultimate remedy for deliverance has to be the removal of that INITIAL CAUSE of "military rule" over our nation. That ultimate remedy is addressed at this page (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/military-rule.html).

Without the removal of that INITIAL CAUSE of our national captivity that continues to this day under the modern-day "Assyrians", the usufruct surrender remedy as presented to-date will ultimately fail, IMO.

This petition (http://pentecostnation.wordpress.com/worldwide-petition-for-divine-intervention/) is the place to start the ultimate and lasting remedy.

doug555
09-14-14, 04:10 PM
Consider these Usufruct Letter (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct-letter.html) and Usufruct Indorsement (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct.html)examples... for educational and discussion purposes only, in relation to Indorsed Bill Remedy (http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/indorsed-bill-remedy/).

PROPOSED PROCEDURE:
1. Get a certified copy of 12 USC 95a from US GPO [this is the Peace Treaty Offer - not the BC].

2. Indorse and Return #1 in a Trust-captioned Letter to SOS of Birth State, with USPS Return Receipt Requested for Registered Mail.

3. Record #2 in county with USPS Return Receipt as proof of delivery along with an Affidavit in Support of same that is notarized in order to require recording.

4. Use certified copies of #3 as Proof of Contract with US for Indemnification against all claims when indorsing and returning bills to CFO as payment (for deposit only to United States), along with above Usufruct Letter (having Trust-captioned header statement).

5. Use "Conditional Acceptance Upon Verification" letters to perfect any dishonors of #4, and establish Breach of Trust, Unclean Hands and Equitable Estoppel against the CFO. [Note: For a successful example of this step against a hospital and its several debt collectors, contact me privately]

6. Based on #5 as probable cause, report #5 to US AG (Office of Alien Property) per 18 USC 4 for US to enforce potential 12 USC 95a(2) violations in this matter for theft of US property (lost deposit).

7. Perhaps use Karl Lentz's technology to enforce trespasses against a man in your court at the district court of the US, or at small claims court?
(also see: http://www.youarelaw.org)

xparte
09-15-14, 05:26 AM
I have left this in a newspaper trial for who ever doubts what Anthony imparts i don't, what works is no claims a CODE is claim, if 1000 men claim nothing and 1 person claims on paper the 1000 men have been charged with not claiming something what is missing.

pumpkin
09-15-14, 11:36 AM
IMO, this usufruct stuff is misguided. As applied to government, usufruct does exist as with the trust property. The trust property is public roads, public land and public buildings and the taxation extracted from the public. This does not include any land that is in your possession, it has never been made trust property. The records at the recorder's office will show this.

David Merrill
09-16-14, 07:30 AM
IMO, this usufruct stuff is misguided. As applied to government, usufruct does exist as with the trust property. The trust property is public roads, public land and public buildings and the taxation extracted from the public. This does not include any land that is in your possession, it has never been made trust property. The records at the recorder's office will show this.

Thank you for speaking up. This distinction is important to examine. This is the difference between discharging a debt, as in bankruptcy proceedings or buying it, at least intuitively. So therefore this is the purpose of getting free of the Federal Reserve agreement by non-endorsement.

There is an inherent struggle comprehending the application of Biblical precepts at this juncture. Who is Creator? - And therefore who has the ultimate property right?

The Authority Problem is attribute to the Author. Who creates? We appear to create, and to some extent our father and parents down the line have created for us, as to heritage - what we are born into. What we are taught about our role as creators is significant too. The Bible teaches us that elohim a plurality being created the matrix of physical reality and so that is not specific where our role ends as Creator.

Resorting to the Book of Enoch we begin to decipher a mystery worth examining about apples and serpents. Some time after Adam and Eve were created some angels began lusting after woman in the flesh and so created a distinction between good and evil - The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. I am directing you to before that event - The Tree of Life.

I picture a condensing of spiritual material out of the urge in the original Creator (God) to have an experience. These elohim made an initial decision to spend an infinite amount of energy (Mind) bending light into little tiny circles called electron valence shells. That simplistic draft depicts the amount of energy required to hold this illusion (dream) together in which we experience a time-space continuum often referred to as reality.

Who is Creator?

As I walk through it, realizing my teaching I learn. So I am approaching the concept that we are in elohim, if you want to change your life, change the way you think. The first precept of the ancient Hermetic sciences is that The All is mind, the Universe is mental.

The Torrens system or recordation would infer that there is a custodial task by the State and that informs us as it informs the State Person of who holds the use rights within certain monuments of soil. Interestingly we might get insight from mineral rights, so that below a depth of twenty feet, growing/farming rights, the State owns all property but if the State does not exercise that right within the most recent twenty years then the interests are up for grabs?

I am just saying...

That would seem to infer that whoever understands Who is Creator Creates.

pumpkin
09-16-14, 12:37 PM
So therefore this is the purpose of getting free of the Federal Reserve agreement by non-endorsement.

This, of course, seems to be a commercial agreement. But, IMO, there is problem with this concept. Though the Federal Reserve is private, it operates via special authority. That special authority emanates from government authority. I have read several cases that states that the fiduciary duty follows that governmental authority, no matter if it is wielded by private entities or not. So the fed, though private, also owes the same duties as the congress or any other part of the representative government. The only way I can see that the duty could be escaped, is either by denying the identity or status of the people, or denying the very governmental authority on which the fed operates. This 'agreement' is probably also evidenced by the very fact that the FRNs are only authorized for inter-bank transfers by the federal reserve banks. But that is only presumption that needs to be rebutted. By identifying ourselves as 'the people' or 'one of the people' with inalienable or unalienable rights, and claiming those rights on the record, then the nature the question and presumption is changed. Denying a contract, and denying any commercial aspect should completely eliminate any commercial presumption and return the question back to inalienable rights.
This Satan / God situation is eerily similar to the Government / People situation. IMO, the people just need to realize their place, as creator of government and hold government to their place, as a created servant of the people.

profit j
09-20-14, 03:59 AM
So therefore this is the purpose of getting free of the Federal Reserve agreement by non-endorsement.

This, of course, seems to be a commercial agreement. But, IMO, there is problem with this concept. Though the Federal Reserve is private, it operates via special authority. That special authority emanates from government authority. I have read several cases that states that the fiduciary duty follows that governmental authority, no matter if it is wielded by private entities or not. So the fed, though private, also owes the same duties as the congress or any other part of the representative government. The only way I can see that the duty could be escaped, is either by denying the identity or status of the people, or denying the very governmental authority on which the fed operates. This 'agreement' is probably also evidenced by the very fact that the FRNs are only authorized for inter-bank transfers by the federal reserve banks. But that is only presumption that needs to be rebutted. By identifying ourselves as 'the people' or 'one of the people' with inalienable or unalienable rights, and claiming those rights on the record, then the nature the question and presumption is changed. Denying a contract, and denying any commercial aspect should completely eliminate any commercial presumption and return the question back to inalienable rights.
This Satan / God situation is eerily similar to the Government / People situation. IMO, the people just need to realize their place, as creator of government and hold government to their place, as a created servant of the people.


So how do you propose us the HOLD the GOV.com in their place while they are operating under STRESS under NECCESSITY and WAR powers......If you attempt to HOLD then you will be CONSIDER-ATION-ED and enemy of the e-STATE.......Eye thing you should give ceaser back his property so that he WILL CEASE&DESIST.

doug555
10-26-14, 11:18 PM
Significant revisions and additions were made today to http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/ (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/)

Revisions: Usufruct Letter, Procedure
Additions: Usufruct Affidavit, Currency, Fault, Default, Claim

For your review and suggestions...

Boris' latest Q&A session is here:
blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/034/show_7034831.mp3
blogtalkradio.com/evolvequest/2014/10/23/i-am-some-dude-law-qa-wboris-erickson

A request for help was received today from one in Arizona. Below is my reply and the status of help at this time:


Hi ________,

All I have is what is now on http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/

I just this minute updated that site with new info -- added usufruct affidavit, currency, fault, default, claim and updated letter & procedures #1 & 6.

Beware that this approach as yet is untested, and is only theory.

IMO, one must PAY with LAWFUL MONEY, and make a RECORD of same. Then use USUFRUCT LETTER, NOTICE OF FAULT and DEFAULT to get them into ESTOPPEL, BREACH OF TRUST, and BAD FAITH. Then file a complaint (#6), and then a CLAIM (#7).

If that sounds reasonable and you understand this approach, then you must decide if you have nothing to lose in testing it yourself.

I can tell you I have had success for the last 3 years on 1040 for refunds due to lawful money reduction, thanks to David Merrill's info at http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/

See my extensive research post at http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?844-1040-help&highlight=10099 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?844-1040-help&highlight=10099)

I am trying to build a study group to provide more research and consensus on this Usufruct Remedy approach, but there seems to be little interest or even questions.

Doug

P.S. If you use SKYPE, let me know and you can invite me (a-pilgrim555).

doug555
10-28-14, 10:18 PM
Significant revisions and additions were made today to http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/ (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/)

Revisions: Usufruct Letter, Procedure
Additions: Usufruct Affidavit, Currency, Fault, Default, Claim

For your review and suggestions...

Boris' latest Q&A session is here:
blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/034/show_7034831.mp3
blogtalkradio.com/evolvequest/2014/10/23/i-am-some-dude-law-qa-wboris-erickson

A request for help was received today from one in Arizona. Below is my reply and the status of help at this time:


Hi ________,

All I have is what is now on http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/

I just this minute updated that site with new info -- added usufruct affidavit, currency, fault, default, claim and updated letter & procedures #1 & 6.

Beware that this approach as yet is untested, and is only theory.

IMO, one must PAY with LAWFUL MONEY, and make a RECORD of same. Then use USUFRUCT LETTER, NOTICE OF FAULT and DEFAULT to get them into ESTOPPEL, BREACH OF TRUST, and BAD FAITH. Then file a complaint (#6), and then a CLAIM (#7).

If that sounds reasonable and you understand this approach, then you must decide if you have nothing to lose in testing it yourself.

I can tell you I have had success for the last 3 years on 1040 for refunds due to lawful money reduction, thanks to David Merrill's info at http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/

See my extensive research post at http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?844-1040-help&highlight=10099 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?844-1040-help&highlight=10099)

I am trying to build a study group to provide more research and consensus on this Usufruct Remedy approach, but there seems to be little interest or even questions.

Doug

P.S. If you use SKYPE, let me know and you can invite me (a-pilgrim555).


I just added a new page, entitled "Usufruct Club (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct-club.html)", and a POLL in the right-hand panel of the website.

doug555
10-29-14, 11:50 PM
1973

Usufruct Club - Online Aggregate Items List Spreadsheet via Google Docs

The above list is now available for your entries.

Please register at http://usufructclub.prophpbb.com/ (http://usufructclub.prophpbb.com/) and add to this list using the member ID you registered with.

For more info, see post at:
http://usufructclub.prophpbb.com/post5.html#p5 (http://usufructclub.prophpbb.com/post5.html#p5)

doug555
11-07-14, 11:17 PM
http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct-affidavit.html (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct-affidavit.html)

See updated "Usufruct Affidavit" at link above, for your review and suggestions.

Notice that Boris's latest 10/23 audio (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/blogtalkradio.com/evolvequest/2014/10/23/i-am-some-dude-law-qa-wboris-erickson) confirms my assertion that bills are really credit vouchers, and that we should accept, indorse, and return them as lawful money payments.

Dishonors of these "indorsed bill payments (http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/indorsed-bill-remedy/)" would constitute insurrection and rebellion against the United States per Section 4 of the 14th Amendment by questioning the public debt.

Notice that the "public debt" has to have a counterpart "public credit" according the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles" (GAAP) that governs all commercial activity using the double-entry bookkeeping paradigm.

This "public debt" is owed to people for their deposit of their private labor as the "public credit" of the nation, pledged at birth.

Notice this excerpt from "Public Debt Private Assets (http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED456071.pdf)" publication from the FRB in Chicago, at the top of page 5 (boldface added):


"We all know what debt is when it is our own—we owe money to someone else. On the other hand, it may not be so easy to understand that many of our financial assets are someone else’s debts. For example, to a consumer a savings account at a bank is an asset. However, to the bank it is a debt."

Moxie
11-08-14, 04:54 AM
Who is Creator? - And therefore who has the ultimate property right?

Who creates?

Who is Creator?

This. ^^^^ this this this this this this.




Holy frijoles that blog is hy00ge with all those videos: zomg! I would have to study this stuff and watch all those lengthy videos as a full-time job for the next several months just to get all that info straight ON TOP of my current issues. What about groceries, mating socks, washing the car, collecting FRNs and breathing??

Why does a man have to notify a fiction!

What a colossal amount of life force and paper devoted to asking a fiction for permission to use some rainbow-unicorn-lucky-charm-leprechaun fictional instrument.

P.S. How many successes with this remedy so far?

doug555
11-08-14, 02:08 PM
2001

Loan Accounting Reveals True Creditor (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_eG5TRlNKQWxjYTg/view?usp=sharing)



Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
Who is Creator? - And therefore who has the ultimate property right?

Who creates?

Who is Creator?


This. ^^^^ this this this this this this.




Holy frijoles that blog is hy00ge with all those videos: zomg! I would have to study this stuff and watch all those lengthy videos as a full-time job for the next several months just to get all that info straight ON TOP of my current issues. What about groceries, mating socks, washing the car, collecting FRNs and breathing??

Why does a man have to notify a fiction!

What a colossal amount of life force and paper devoted to asking a fiction for permission to use some rainbow-unicorn-lucky-charm-leprechaun fictional instrument.

P.S. How many successes with this remedy so far?

What? Back up the train there Moxie!!

Man-kind chose fiction over reality in the Garden of Eden.

Now you are complaining that you have to deal with it?

Can you hear the advice the Creator gave "to all the exiles in Babylon", as a TYPE for us today:
http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/jeremiah/passage.aspx?q=jeremiah+29:4-7


4 "Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, to all the exiles whom I have sent into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon, 5 'Build houses and live in them; and plant gardens and eat their produce. 6 'Take wives and become the fathers of sons and daughters, and take wives for your sons and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; and multiply there and do not decrease. 7 'Seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the LORD on its behalf; for in its welfare you will have welfare.'


Yes, I have had success using 12 USC 411 for 3 years now, and with a private contract payment to a hospital and its 3 debts collectors, getting them into Breach of Trust, Unclean Hands, Equitable Estoppel and Joinder for $10,000, using IBR (http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/indorsed-bill-remedy/) and Conditional Acceptance upon Verification letters, within trust indentures. David has copies of same and can confirm this, but cannot distribute that information. as it is private.

What successes do you have?

BTW: I have a full time job, do all you mention above, and still have time to research all of this AND put up several websites to help educate others about this FREE OF CHARGE. And you are complaining about taking time just to READ this!? Hmmm... who side are you REALLY on?

Keith Alan
11-08-14, 07:44 PM
This. ^^^^ this this this this this this.




Holy frijoles that blog is hy00ge with all those videos: zomg! I would have to study this stuff and watch all those lengthy videos as a full-time job for the next several months just to get all that info straight ON TOP of my current issues. What about groceries, mating socks, washing the car, collecting FRNs and breathing??

Why does a man have to notify a fiction!

What a colossal amount of life force and paper devoted to asking a fiction for permission to use some rainbow-unicorn-lucky-charm-leprechaun fictional instrument.

P.S. How many successes with this remedy so far?

Yeah, it takes time for one to wrap his mind around all these concepts. I find it teaches patience. I just read or watch a video, and wait for it to gel in my mind; eventually it does.

Moxie
11-09-14, 12:49 AM
Let the man or woman come to my Queens Bench court of record, swear in, then take the witness stand saying that i, a woman, have wronged him, have trespassed, by using his "fruits" without asking permission.

It won't happen.

Was my point. :-)

David Merrill
11-09-14, 09:39 AM
Man-kind chose fiction over reality in the Garden of Eden.

Examining that model thoroughly led to some Keys that broke my mind out of a jail - a jail that I knew existed but would not confront mentally (denial). Paul I blame for constructing this jail during the last five years of life and it goes something like this form of brainwashing; to abandon logic, science, reason, rules of evidence and common sense:

The only way to please God is through faith.

Quoting my own Gospel of Pragmatism (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImT1RPcnRvNzBGWWc/view):


Demonstrations build confidence in the law or laws that I applied in the Notice, thus building confidence in my connection to communication and creation.





David has copies of same and can confirm this, but cannot distribute that information. as it is private.


The run on the Fed is immanent. It is still in my opinion safer for anyone proceeding to redeem lawful money to do so on their own understanding. Therefore I do not share many success stories. And you are right Doug, sanitized success stories do not meet the criteria of rules of evidence. The only success stories I could share that are up to snuff would disclose private information.


Regards,

David Merrill.

doug555
11-09-14, 05:44 PM
The run on the Fed is immanent. It is still in my opinion safer for anyone proceeding to redeem lawful money to do so on their own understanding.


Yes, the FRNs as a currency are coming to an end. See article and its excerpt below.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1816.htm (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1816.htm)

Excerpt from above link:

Chomsky’s fears of a US-Russian nuclear war, we have previously reported on, are indeed valid, this report continues, due to President Putin’s moves to strike down the American petrodollar which the Obama regime has retaliated against by provoking a war in Ukraine, leveling sanctions (along with its EU allies) against Russia, and with its Middle Eastern allies collapsing the price of oil in its strategy of trying to bankrupt Russia.

Russia, however, in anticipating these actions by the Obama regime, this report notes, has amassed one of the largest gold reserves in the world to counter these economic warfare moves against the Federation no matter how low the price of oil goes, a strategic point not lost to the former US Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan who in speaking to the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) last week stunningly admitted, “Gold is currency, no fiat currency, including the US Dollar, can match it.”

With Russia “fully prepared” to accomplish its end-game of destroying the US petrodollar system with its gold reserves and combined energy-mineral wealth (which is the greatest in the world valued at over $75 trillion), MoFA analysts in this report conclude, the new Oligarchy ruling America, in a “last stand effort” to protect its “paper only” fiat currency wealth may, indeed, see global war as its only alternative to protect itself.

Besides just "redeeming" FRNs by demanding lawful money per 12 USC 411, should we not also just "use" lawful money from the start, by transferring equitable title to our labor-credit (the credit of the nation) directly by simple acceptance and indorsement of bills, creating a private contract against which there can be no law (US Constitution, Article I, Section 10), and enabling "full acquittance and discharge" per 12 USC 95a(2) and thereby decrease the national debt?

The people (labor-credit) are the gold and our signature is the currency!

Is not this "Usufruct Currency (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct-currency.html)" already in circulation as "bills"?

But we are just failing to "use" it (accept & indorse), and are instead "delaying" payment by tendering/using FRNs (IOUs) as payment?

Is this not a viable alternative to avert a potential world war being perpetrated given the above plausible political scenario?

Keith Alan
11-09-14, 07:07 PM
@doug555

Is this not a viable alternative to avert a potential world war being perpetrated given the above plausible political scenario?

I don't think so. If those powers want war, they'll have war, and that will be that.

doug555
11-09-14, 08:26 PM
Agreed. However, it will NOT be because there was no viable alternative...

http://www.tomheneghanbriefings.com/ (http://www.tomheneghanbriefings.com/)



Dr. Jim Willie - Absolute "Guarantee of Economic Collapse" & "Systemic Breakdown"
By Susan Duclos

Finance and Liberty interviewed Dr. Jim Willie, founder of the GoldenJackass.com and editor of the Hat Trick Letter, to discuss the global economy, where Willie asserts that the form of Quantitative Easing (QE) the US government is practicing right now is an absolute "guarantee of systemic breakdown and economic collapse," to which he explains in detail the how and why of it.

Willie also delves into the the next steps he sees coming, which will include hidden debt coverage, a vast propaganda campaign, and he also points out how no one wants to admit how the sanctions meant to punish Russia over the Ukraine fiasco, has actually resulted in the "acceleration of the dollar rejection worldwide."

That and much more in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG2q1ue_1OQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG2q1ue_1OQ)



Also see: http://FinanceAndLiberty.com (http://FinanceAndLiberty.com)


On December 23rd 1913, Woodrow Wilson signed into effect the Federal Reserve Act. This interview was recorded on the 100th anniversary of the Federal Reserve and is being brought back today as an encore presentation. Author of "The Creature from Jekyll Island: a Second Look at the Federal Reserve," G. Edward Griffin exposes the Fed's hidden objective over the past 100 years and why "if America does not abolish the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve will abolish America."

And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYnWtJMlWM&list=PLNwUWnJgSq_LsSyEjjIZEtrdUQFhgWWbN&src_vid=BtXExqT_dZM&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_1966633005[/B] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYnWtJMlWM&list=PLNwUWnJgSq_LsSyEjjIZEtrdUQFhgWWbN&src_vid=BtXExqT_dZM&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_1966633005)


SOURCE of Greenspan quote:
“Yes…remember what we’re looking at. [B]Gold is a currency. It is still by all evidences the premiere currency where no fiat currency including the Dollar can match it. And so that the issue is if you are looking at the question of turmoil, you will find as we always have in the past, it moves into the gold price.” ~ Alan Greenspan quoted at 23:43 in "A Conversation With Alan Greenspan"
http://www.cfr.org/financial-crises/conversation-alan-greenspan/p33697 (http://www.cfr.org/financial-crises/conversation-alan-greenspan/p33697)


Recent interview with Ambassador for Red Dragon Family, about Red Dragon Bloodline Family Vs The ILLUMINATI CABAL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbM67u9Br0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbM67u9Br0)


Published on Nov 8, 2014
The Ambassador of the Chineses Red Dragon family speaks on current state of affairs on the world's money system and upcoming financial change.
The Ambassador also covers Ukraine, religion, media, pyramids, occulted knowledge, vatican, space, royal bloodlines, paranormal and so much more.
Could we be about to see a paradigm shift as we move into the new age? The Ambassador says his family are ready to make the changes needed for the betterment of humanity.
(Ambassador starts at 3 min mark)

Kevin Baker's radio archives:
http://truthfrequencyradio.com/kevbaker/ (http://truthfrequencyradio.com/kevbaker/)

Keith Alan
11-09-14, 10:02 PM
@doug555

How would this be a viable alternative? I'm just not understanding how it would influence foreign powers.

doug555
11-09-14, 10:06 PM
@doug555
How would this be a viable alternative? I'm just not understanding how it would influence foreign powers.


The increase in employment due to increased demand for products and services, the decrease in national debt, and restoration of our sovereignty would not change the political balance of power in the world?

This idea worked in President Lincoln's administration. Why would it not work now?

Perhaps a local grassroots referendum could start in the county, then state, and then national?

It would be best if done from the top-down, but not if the Executive Office has been compromised.

All it would take is for one brave Governor to be enlightened and declare it at the State level. Where is Jesse Ventura?

http://www.iamsomedude.com/pdf/carey_currency_letter.pdf (http://www.iamsomedude.com/pdf/carey_currency_letter.pdf) (see pages 129-130)

2006


Notice above that "He had pledged his credit and nothing more."

Is this not what we have already done in joining in on the Declaration for Independence...that "we mutually pledge to each other other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred honor"?

Do we not have evidence of that pledge by each of us holding a receipt thereof known as the "Certificate of Live Birth"?

Then what is preventing us from implementing the exact scenario illustrated so keenly above?

Nothing.

The people (labor-credit) are the gold and our signature is the currency!

All we need is a clearinghouse that is "credible" to all the people, at a county, state, and then national level.

For more info, see:
Usufruct Currency (http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p/usufruct-currency.html)
Indorsed Bill Remedy (https://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/indorsed-bill-remedy/)

Keith Alan
11-09-14, 10:33 PM
The increase in employment due to increased demand for products and services, the decrease in national debt, and restoration of our sovereignty would not change the political balance of power in the world?

This idea worked in President Lincoln's administration. Why would it not work now?

If Russia is pushing a gold backed currency, and the US is pushing a person backed currency, anything Russia does that hurts the dollar would be an attack on the US.

I think that may be why US dollars are so liberally spread around the globe, as a deterrent to attacks on the currency. Gresham's Law, and all that...

doug555
11-09-14, 10:46 PM
If Russia is pushing a gold backed currency, and the US is pushing a person backed currency, anything Russia does that hurts the dollar would be an attack on the US.

I think that may be why US dollars are so liberally spread around the globe, as a deterrent to attacks on the currency. Gresham's Law, and all that...

Gold severely limits increases in productivity. It is better to have a labor-backed asset currency, IMO.

To hurt that type of dollar would require an actual attack on the "people", which would have to be overt, and not covert as it is now via a hidden financial matrix which is allowing creditors to buy up America with its debt-based currency, which is essentially an attack underway right now.

Keith Alan
11-09-14, 10:58 PM
Gold severely limits increases in productivity. It is better to have a labor-backed asset currency, IMO.

To hurt that type of dollar would require an actual attack on the "people", which would have to be overt, and not covert as it is now via a hidden financial matrix which is allowing creditors to buy up America with its debt-based currency, which is essentially an attack underway right now.

Precisely. Therefore the current state of affairs is pretty good from a security standpoint.

Now as to creditors 'buying up America', I see how one might find that offensive, but the assets backing the currency - ie titles - are brought into commerce voluntarily, albeit in ignorance. But whose fault is that?

doug555
11-09-14, 11:08 PM
Precisely. Therefore the current state of affairs is pretty good from a security standpoint.

Now as to creditors 'buying up America', I see how one might find that offensive, but the assets backing the currency - ie titles - are brought into commerce voluntarily, albeit in ignorance. But whose fault is that?

After listening to those audios, the current state of affairs in NOT pretty good... it is pretty GRIM, IMO, since we are at the mercy of our creditors, and BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa financial consortium) is a clear and present danger to our "security" based on FRNs.

That's why it is imperative NOW to discuss this alternative currency - for it to be adopted BEFORE we lose FRNs as our default "currency"... so we can be insulated from its departure.

Keith Alan
11-09-14, 11:18 PM
After listening to those audios, the current state of affairs in NOT pretty good... it is pretty GRIM, IMO, since we are at the mercy of our creditors, and BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa financial consortium) is a clear and present danger to our "security" based on FRNs.

That's why it is imperative NOW to discuss this alternative currency - for it to be adopted BEFORE we lose FRNs as our default "currency"... so we can be insulated from its departure.
I see what you're saying, I just don't see a threat. It's a fair bet that Gresham's Law will win out in any currency battle against a gold backed currency.

But I do agree with you about this alternative method being discussed. I'm intensely interested in the mechanics of it. On one hand I'm not opposed to surrendering all titles that I hold to the US, including reversionary interests. But I'm concerned about how to live life in modern society without being in commerce.

It's still the same old nut that needs cracking.

JohnnyCash
11-10-14, 12:59 AM
I see disinfo people (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSNyiSetZ8Y)

george
02-12-15, 07:21 AM
seems many of the folks working on the Boris philosophy have disappeared. wonder if they finally got that black card TDA and signed NDA? are you still with us Doug555? I am planning to get more familiar with this path now, you have made that easier to do so thanks very much.

Jim Hebin has dropped his peacful_inhabitant yahoo group and havnt seen anything from him since.

Boris has always been hard to find.

any new info available?


I see disinfo people[/URL]

it may be a reflection.


Thank you for speaking up. This distinction is important to examine. This is the difference between discharging a debt, as in bankruptcy proceedings or buying it, at least intuitively. So therefore this is the purpose of getting free of the Federal Reserve agreement by non-endorsement.

There is an inherent struggle comprehending the application of Biblical precepts at this juncture. Who is Creator? - And therefore who has the ultimate property right?

The Authority Problem is attribute to the Author. Who creates? We appear to create, and to some extent our father and parents down the line have created for us, as to heritage - what we are born into. What we are taught about our role as creators is significant too. The Bible teaches us that elohim a plurality being created the matrix of physical reality and so that is not specific where our role ends as Creator.

Resorting to the Book of Enoch we begin to decipher a mystery worth examining about apples and serpents. Some time after Adam and Eve were created some angels began lusting after woman in the flesh and so created a distinction between good and evil - The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. I am directing you to before that event - The Tree of Life.

I picture a condensing of spiritual material out of the urge in the original Creator (God) to have an experience. These elohim made an initial decision to spend an infinite amount of energy (Mind) bending light into little tiny circles called electron valence shells. That simplistic draft depicts the amount of energy required to hold this illusion (dream) together in which we experience a time-space continuum often referred to as reality.

Who is Creator?

As I walk through it, realizing my teaching I learn. So I am approaching the concept that we are in elohim, if you want to change your life, change the way you think. The first precept of the ancient Hermetic sciences is that The All is mind, the Universe is mental.

The Torrens system or recordation would infer that there is a custodial task by the State and that informs us as it informs the State Person of who holds the use rights within certain monuments of soil. Interestingly we might get insight from mineral rights, so that below a depth of twenty feet, growing/farming rights, the State owns all property but if the State does not exercise that right within the most recent twenty years then the interests are up for grabs?

I am just saying...

That would seem to infer that whoever understands Who is Creator Creates.

great post David! are you familiar with Neville Goddard's philosophy/works? http://www.realneville.com/

thanks

Sue M
09-20-15, 02:19 PM
I should also say - your american system operates in exactly the same manner, to the variation of your more powerful constitution.

A June Supreme Court case overruled an admin breach and looks like your admin system might collapse. Lucky you.

Did a Judge just undermine the Administrative State with a SEC Ruling?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2015/06/09/did-a-judgeoff-the-great-unraveling-of-the-administrative-state-with-sec-ruling/

Judge rules Administrative Court system illegal after 81 years.
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33280