Birth Certificate - What it is [Archive] - Page 2

Michael Joseph

12-04-15, 02:02 AM

After all, what man, who claims Jesus the Christ as his Lord and Savior, could care the least about securing LEGAL title to anything in the DEAD realm?

Very well said. For consider at once that any estate established must at once be conditioned upon a claim. It is this claim upon which the estate is eventually established as property rights are doled out to the kings of this world and within the realms the kings establish estates. Therefore one must beg the question upon which TESTAMENTARY TRUST was the original estate founded. And since it was a testamentary trust the original claimant is long dead. And as such men and women are undertaking in offices for a dead man's estate.

There is, as such, a false shepherd. And he holds two swords - one temporal and one spiritual. The temporal sword has been granted to the kings and princes but only under the watchful eye of the spiritual power. For the spiritual man is judged by no man.

I am reminded of a recent writing I issued just this week:

Priestcraft : Re-LEGION. "For we are many" - remember the Gadarene tale of the LEGION cast forth from the boy? The "demons"- so called - were cast into the swine. Until we read "don't cast your pearls before swine". Consider that this Re-LEGION was the dissemination of HOG SLOP to the gentiles - who readily eat such. Now before we get too caught up in the physical or literal - the Hog Slop is "food for the mind". We call that religion. For religion is NOT The Way spoken of in Psalms 119.

Psa 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

What happened to those "swine"? They ran into the "SEA" and killed themselves! Can you say ADMIRALTY LAW. Where "in rem" vessels of death operate upon the Roman Law. Where piracy is okay and a man can be diseized of his estate by force.

And remember what did LEGION have to say to the one who is The Way - "Jesus thou son of David, what hast thou do to with us?" Religion has little or nothing to do with The Way.

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Notice the coin was collected in the Temple. There was no separation of church and state. The identity of the people was in YHVH. Under Sol-om-on [Light-Light-Light] we find that the head of the woman [people] is the man [king] and the head of the man is Yehoshuah [YHVH Saves]. We find today that the man [leadership or mind] does not recognize Christ as the head. Rather they run to and fro to intercourse with other men [men doing unseemly deeds with other men].

Those great fishes that peter caught when he fished out of the right were tremendous Truths [Heavenly Waters]. Thusly Wisdom and Understanding merged. For Wisdom she is at the Right hand.

Babylon is in the desert, the valley, the low places in the earth - the waters of Babylon is carnality or earthly waters of confusion - bbl. Zion is the place in consciousness high on the mountain - the place where Jesus went, Elijah went, Lot went, Abraham went, Adam/Eve lived [see books of Adam and Eve], etc. Thusly the waters of Zion are Heavenly waters.

Here is a wonderful song of hope. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsqSNIR5DsU)

You can see that the central banking system is a Fiefdom - because all requires a FEE. And the estates are always in Fee. Thusly Gold/Silver represents a Tail Risk to the Fiefdom just as Bernacke said. So within the understanding of the fiefdom gold/silver cannot be money but rather just a commodity/asset of the dead man's estate. In fact in the fiefdom everything is a commodity and must be numbered and named.

Notice too that the priests in the Israelite system were also the judges who undertook in office to administrate the law. But notice the story of Eli's corrupt sons.

Foreign kings had intercourse with the woman [temple/mind]. Let me see if I can find that one for you in parable..

Eze 23:23 The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon horses.

Eze 23:24 And they shall come against thee with chariots, wagons, and wheels, and with an assembly of people, which shall set against thee buckler and shield and helmet round about: and I will set judgment before them, and they shall judge thee according to their judgments.

St. Paul wrote about a great apostasy and it is unfortunate that folks are actually "looking" for a future event as if this time is paradise. When in fact the book of Acts records the so called "latter days" began some 2k years ago. Joshuah the warrior priest killed 31 kings! Ever ask yourself why 31? St Paul showed why! 31 nerve pairings along the spinal column.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

The earthly waters [truths] are small fishes but the Heavenly waters [truths] are Great Fishes.

Joh_21:11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.

1 + 5 + 3 = 9 [higher consciousness]
6 + 6 + 6 = 18 ==> 1 + 8 = 9

Notice that Binah and Chokmah are both feminine! A man plowing with two heifers. ALEPH. They are Understanding and Wisdom.

Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Bringing this full circle - the gate is the place of judgment and She - Wisdom - speaks of HER GATES - Her posts of Her doors.

Pro 8:34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

Minute Mark 4:32 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3TltMNbgGQ) - "I think the reason that people hold gold is a protection against tail-risk" - Ben BERNACKE. Meaning that gold can be traded internationally without the Fiefdom of the central banking survey. BTW some might argue that the Fiefdom is fraud but no so - it is supported by the business plan called constitution at Art 1 - Section 10. If we enter upon a private contract, then no state can pass a law to trespass upon that contract. Thusly if we understand the central banking fiefdom, then the constitution becomes the jailor! And the courts must act in accord with the constitution which means the courts have no other possibility but to become debt collectors for the banker!

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A fee tail is passed by inheritance from generation to generation to the heirs of the body of the initial owner. Since no one is an heir of the living, the children of the owner of a fee tail are merely heirs apparent. Such children, therefore, have no transferable interest during their lifetimes.

A fee tail can endure until the holder dies without surviving issue, but it cannot be passed on to collateral heirs. A reversion remains in the original owner whenever a fee tail is created. Thus, if a tenant in fee tail dies without heirs, the property reverts back to the original grantor who initially created the fee tail estate.

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Read that again and you will soon realize why gold is a Tail Risk. But then again one must also ask who made the original claim. And further, who is therefore the original Grantor - in regard to the [e]States, this would be the Chief Shepherd of the World. Unam Sactum

Quoting from Unam Sanctum:

"We are informed by the texts of the gospels that in this Church and in its power are two swords; namely, the spiritual and the temporal. For when the Apostles say: 'Behold, here are two swords' [Lk 22:38] that is to say, in the Church, since the Apostles were speaking, the Lord did not reply that there were too many, but sufficient. Certainly the one who denies that the temporal sword is in the power of Peter has not listened well to the word of the Lord commanding: 'Put up thy sword into thy scabbard' [Mt 26:52]. Both, therefore, are in the power of the Church, that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, but the former is to be administered for the Church but the latter by the Church; the former in the hands of the priest; the latter by the hands of kings and soldiers, but at the will and sufferance of the priest."

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Now then, do you suppose there really exists a separation of church and state or is that a lie told to keep man in a constant estate of duality - torn between two lovers?

1Sa 8:19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;
1Sa 8:20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

Eze 23:29 [B]And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The amazing aspect of the foregoing verse is that folks are actually looking for this to happen!

walter

12-04-15, 02:40 AM

Sorry to say you are mistaken; a "CERTIFICATE" is a certified copy.

"In a more particular sense, the written declaration, under the hand or seal or both, of some public officer, to be used as evidence in a court, or to substantiate a fact. A certificate of this kind may be considered as given under the oath of office."

source (http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/certificate)

I called Vital Statics Office and had a nice chat with them and that info came right out of the horses mouth.

All birth certificates are original. They are not a copy of a document on file.

Statement of live birth original is being held by them in trust. When you order one you get a copy of a original record.

Big , big differences.
One who holds the original holds the liability.

Call them up and ask them.

BLBereans

12-04-15, 02:55 AM

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The amazing aspect of the foregoing verse is that folks are actually looking for this to happen!

That is utterly amazing.

Anyone who cannot see that has been the status quo since the day FDRs banking "holiday" ended in 1934 is a member of the proverbial "people" who perish through lack of knowledge.

I suggest that the manner of use of the NAME determines one's trust and faith; is it a "pass-thru" entity used out of necessity or does one lay claim to it? Do one use it for his/her benefit or for the benefit of others? If one owns nothing in the DEAD realm then the NAME is only a transmitting utility whereby energy and labor is given freely, and in toto, for the benefit of the public trust - one cannot "owe" since there is nothing left to give.

I was born on this land but my mom and dad were not, yet I am aware of these "goings-on" I suppose that makes no difference as to one's quest for truth; there are people who have been on this land for generations who haven't a clue as to the topic at hand.

The question is, do you truly seek out the truth or are you comfortable with the worldly status quo?

BLBereans

12-04-15, 03:03 AM

I called Vital Statics Office and had a nice chat with them and that info came right out of the horses mouth.

All birth certificates are original. They are not a copy of a document on file.

Statement of live birth original is being held by them in trust. When you order one you get a copy of a original record.

Big , big differences.
One who holds the original holds the liability.

Call them up and ask them.

An original document has the wet ink signature of the party who declares or testifies. A record can be made of that original under the seal of three parties; the originator, the witness(es) and the record keeper. From either, certified copies can be made to attest as to the existence of an original.

Who holds the original? Answer: the creator.

Michael Joseph

12-04-15, 03:16 AM

The question is, do you truly seek out the truth or are you comfortable with the worldly status quo?

Nevertheless we work not in faith but in love to make this world a better place for others. This requires a sort of wilderness experience whereby one is misunderstood and mischaracterized by the masses who would willingly compromise themselves for the "onions" and "garlics" Egypt has to offer. Nevertheless, we are informed at Rev 15:1-3 that there is an overcoming of that Named Account - and those who understand comprehend the Song of Moses - Deut 32. For we know, the purpose and we are true to the choice not taking thought in fear for the future or regret of the past but taking those thoughts captive we "take no thought" for if we take thought for the choice we deny and quench the Holy Spirit. Yet in taking no thought we speak and do that which is granted from on High.

Folks are looking for a worldly potentate to arise with courts but in keeping an eye on the external world they lose sight of the internal conflict of thought/emotion. Yet this wilderness experience is necessary for the seeker - for he who would find truth must seek it with all his heart.

The way of Cain in faith is inferior to the way of Abel in Love. For in faith there is duty and obligation but in love their is a dying to self to serve another. Happiness is found, I believe in the way of Abel. For compelled love is no love at all. And once the restrictions ease up from the compelled force to love- rebellion naturally occurs. Peace at the end of a gun is no peace at all.

Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

He who loves prosperity is blind - and most times loses his ability to think and feel. Since those names are capitalized there remains a presumption as to how the trust will be expressed. Will it be in Charity or Greed? Will it be in Me or We? Thusly the court is a female vessel. Here is more writings from earlier this week:

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Regarding OATHS OF OFFICE....

John_5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

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I believe it is true that the IMF overlay in the central banking scheme is a Fiefdom. Thusly any interaction with any officer requires a Fee or a Tax or a Tribute. I have used this one in the past and will again soon I think:

Question: Are you trying to Tax a child of God?

If you stop to consider how incredible that simple question really is then you might get a glimpse at the two kingdoms. Zion and Babylon.

I don't know about you but I am sick of the waters of Babylon. Consider carefully the following question:

Question: In what court would a King be tried?

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When I began to see the court as a woman's reproductive system, then I began to understand who I AM in regard to moving her. For 1000's of years she has birthed children of Faith - Comes now Michael Joseph in Love. Speaking for Us - We have now come. I act as Peter with the Keys to sow the good seed into her. She is the court of consciousness or temple - both are saying the same thing.

Speaking for all the elohim - a new consciousness is dawning upon this barren land for saviors have gone up to Mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau/Edom. [Ref Obadiah 1:21]

I have no trust in the fiefdom of debt. It is death/doubt/debt - hold not up the unclean thing. Jesus to Peter - the children of the King are free. Peter the impregnator must first believe he is free. Then fear is replaced by joy and love can replace faith. Remember it is a penalty unto death to "spill the seed" when in intercourse with her [the court]. But before this is completely externalized - consider the court is the temple is your consciousness! Know ye not that ye are the Temple of the Living God?

To enter into the temple is a serious matter for what is birthed will be common to all - thus let us implant the good "seed" and she will birth Love. But if Carnal Seed is implanted in her [court, consciousness, etc.] then the children will be of desolation! Ref Isiah 54:1.

Gen 38:8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
Gen 38:9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
Gen 38:10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

Nevertheless it is a penalty unto death to take the Name of the YHVH in vain - according to Noachide. If you are vested in the literal story, you will not see the Light. For the letter of the law is death - but the Spirit gives Light / Life.

The Mind can move mountains and emotion shall not cut off the ability of the impregnating thought....rather let the two become one [thought and emotion] so that the Will is not divided. Ref James 1:8

Jas 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

See now the double minded man represents the two men struggling with each other [the thoughts of the mind are male].

Deu 25:11 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:
Deu 25:12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

For she receives and conceives seed so that the children of promise might be birthed. Until that day it seems the philosophies of the kingdoms represented of Nebuchadnezzar's statue rule the day.

IT IS IMPROPER TO LEGISLATE LAW FROM THE BENCH.

She [court] cannot impregnate herself.

Ignorant men misuse the woman to both of their peril. Consider carefully that the foregoing statement is true in the literal and the metaphysical in regard to the Temple of Law/Mind/Court. For in Love she will birth laws [children] of promise for the good of all - not just a few. It appears today that her teats have been bruised and she has been roughly treated.

Eze 23:2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother:
Eze 23:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.
Eze 23:4 And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.
Eze 23:5 And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours,
Eze 23:6 Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses.
Eze 23:7 Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself.
Eze 23:8 Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her.
Eze 23:9 Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted.

Reader, you tell me, does it appear that the courts today are fair or does it appear that they have turned into houses for the money changers? The courts have become collection houses for the banker! It is only the enlightened Mind [Jesus] which can throw out the money changers in Love to the all - a sacrifice for the all that the masses do not comprehend in their ignorance - and yet one day they will come to appreciate.

Eze 23:13 Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way,
Eze 23:14 And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion,
Eze 23:15 Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity:
Eze 23:16 And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea.
Eze 23:17 And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them.

Look carefully at the men as princes upon the Notes - Notice Washington the ALPHA is flanked by an OMEGA and upon his head is an ALTER.

Eze 23:29 And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.
Eze 23:30 I will do these things unto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring after the heathen, and because thou art polluted with their idols.

I'd say the foregoing has come to pass. One cannot buy or sell today with out the NAME and the SSN [the number of the name - Rev 13:17]. There is HOPE for redemption:

Isaiah 52:3. For not all who say they are Israel are Israel. For the true Israel walks in a special Way under God. And this Way is accomplished in Trust. For if one truly believes then one will Obey. Jesus to the masses - why do you call me Lord and do not obey me? Let us not despise the "small things" for Now is the Time.

Simply put God is not an American. Let us begin to see past the labels.

allodial

12-04-15, 05:03 AM

I called Vital Statics Office and had a nice chat with them and that info came right out of the horses mouth.

All birth certificates are original. They are not a copy of a document on file.

Statement of live birth original is being held by them in trust. When you order one you get a copy of a original record.

Big , big differences.
One who holds the original holds the liability.

Call them up and ask them.

The certificate is of course an original. They historically are certifications of the existence of an entry in the "register of births".

walter

12-04-15, 03:17 PM

An original document has the wet ink signature of the party who declares or testifies. A record can be made of that original under the seal of three parties; the originator, the witness(es) and the record keeper. From either, certified copies can be made to attest as to the existence of an original.

Who holds the original? Answer: the creator.

Wet Ink signatures can also mean seals or company trade marks. Bills of exchange act.
The BC's which are all originals are never held by the issuing state.
What purpose would a BC have to sit with the issuing party? Absolutely nothing.

Mom and Dad granted the SOLB to the state by filling it up (not filled in) and delivering it.
Its a bailment with Mom and Dad becoming the bailor and the state become the bailee.

The BC switch's Mom and Dad as being the bailee and the state becomes the bailor.

Michael Joseph

12-04-15, 05:16 PM

Wet Ink signatures can also mean seals or company trade marks. Bills of exchange act.
The BC's which are all originals are never held by the issuing state.
What purpose would a BC have to sit with the issuing party? Absolutely nothing.

Mom and Dad granted the SOLB to the state by filling it up (not filled in) and delivering it.
Its a bailment with Mom and Dad becoming the bailor and the state become the bailee.

The BC switch's Mom and Dad as being the bailee and the state becomes the bailor.

Yes bailment is an act of transfer of goods but said act is without transfer of ownership. To deliver is to make the abandonment of the livery. If I make the livery of goods upon you for the use of another is not that a confidence reposed in you?

The BC and the SSN are expressly not to be used as ID but is this the common practice of the henchman [corporate policy]? Is it possible to show ID proving one's trust in the State? What can be used to prove said trust? If you say mail - how did you establish the residence? If you say utility bills - how did you establish the account? If you say a lease, then how did you establish the lease? Etc.

I hope someone will take up my challenge of how to prove trust in a system that requires its own issue to prove the trust. How do you come into possession of said issue without first proving trust? Origins cannot be dismissed. Where was the first trust deed? Who performed it?

Perhaps if you name is registered into the Book of Life - you will be granted access into the Kingdom. Registry of Birth....

allodial

12-04-15, 06:00 PM

This might an insightful link: The Birth Certificate (http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/resource.html).

The certificate is of course an original. They historically are certifications of the existence of an entry in the "register of births".

The thing so many people seem to dodge around the the significance of the name being on the register. Too much time has been spent on the certificate itself rather than getting to the heart of the significance of the entry in the register. Back in the day when someone requested a birth certificate, the register was checked for the name and DOB and if an entry was found a CERTIFICATE WAS MADE THAT THE ENTRY EXISTS. What is the significance of the name being in the register?

ag maniac

12-05-15, 11:58 AM

This might an insightful link: The Birth Certificate (http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/resource.html).

The thing so many people seem to dodge around the the significance of the name being on the register. Too much time has been spent on the certificate itself rather than getting to the heart of the significance of the entry in the register. Back in the day when someone requested a birth certificate, the register was checked for the name and DOB and if an entry was found a CERTIFICATE WAS MADE THAT THE ENTRY EXISTS. What is the significance of the name being in the register?

Well, if one claims it as their own & identifies with it......I'd have to say the following depiction is most accurate

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/playero_loko/iownu.jpg

allodial

12-05-15, 01:29 PM

And if Uncle Sam (some refer to as Uncle Samael) owns a person: he is liable for the person's debts.

BLBereans

12-05-15, 03:17 PM

And if Uncle Sam (some refer to as Uncle Samael) owns a person: he is liable for the person's debts.

True; whoever claims to own, takes the full liability of the thing owned. The person is useless and worthless without some one who lives transmitting energy and labor through it. It is presumed that will happen, and, said person's transmissions and transactions are speculated against and then used as the "collateral" behind the nation's currency.

The bottom line is that the living man's labor, time and energy is property that can only be rightfully claimed by said man. No one has a higher claim to that time, energy and labor than the man from whom these things derive.

These things can be given freely from the living to the living without the need of a "person". However, when one uses a person, one enters into the realm of the DEAD, and, depending upon how one acts when one transacts in said realm, one will either be treated as equal to, and part of, the realm (DEAD) or as a foreigner (alive). Those who are truly recognized as man (alive) cannot be held liable for anything in the DEAD realm because a man (alive), who always acts as such, would not lay claim to anything in the DEAD realm.

The BC is evidence of an event, I agree. The event was that a person was created (birthed) and was registered with the STATE OF ...

Did baby do this? Did mom and dad do this? Who created the person, who registered it and for what purpose? Why was the living presented with this evidence (CERTIFICATE)?

My point is that the baby, who is associated with the event which created the BC, does NOT own the BC or the person associated with it. When baby grows up and chooses to utilize said person, he/she can only lay claim to the time, energy and labor he/she produces as his/her property.

Property is NOT ownership; a claim of ownership implies a claim to the marketable title of a thing whereby profit and gain are either sought out and/or stored - kept for the benefit of ME.

That goes against the teachings of Jesus the Christ who is The King of the Heavens and the earth. Those who seek out riches, wealth and security in this world in the form of worldly ownership claims, are treated as enemies of the people (living).

The more "secular" people think the government is, the more evidence emerges of God's Will and Law being implemented. Not to say that ALL those who hold office in government are fully aware of this; God can use anyone and anything in order to fulfill His ultimate Will regardless if one is aware or not.

xparte

12-05-15, 06:15 PM

Very any PERSON BYE STANDING [the innocent bystander ]we as a certificate are a Gold deposit ,LB your explanation is flawless as all mankind was registered under false gods.The Birth.C. and Death.C. are "secular" in every mining operation books need balance walking in holy spirit separates weights and measures as suffering is to labour miners stake the claim searching for a heart of gold is a weight only in Christ is the true measure of a mans soul. \The Biblical Law is know innocent bystander .WE all see on this form that STANDING before God claims no bystanders Christ,s only crime explains be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. ... Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents?if i know thy self as that sheep yet be wise in that knowledge [NO ARGUMENTS snakes and ladders NO CLAIMS] the sheep's deception is his own.

allodial

12-05-15, 06:36 PM

True; whoever claims to own, takes the full liability of the thing owned. The person is useless and worthless without some one who lives transmitting energy and labor through it. It is presumed that will happen, and, said person's transmissions and transactions are speculated against and then used as the "collateral" behind the nation's currency.

Well maybe the state and the original purpose wasn't intended to be harmful to you and the reason state issues the certificate is so that you can use it to your advantage. But the disinformation is designed to make you not see that the state is willingly taking liability for the person as opposed to the bankster controlled MSM which has hidden the truth from you. Consider the trustee that hates you, vs. the trustee that loves you. The trustee that hates you knows how much you have and how wealthy you are would rather give you a million dollars buried under layers of cow poop and call it a sculpture hoping you will throw it away and not dig deeper.

Like I've mentioned over and over, cop asked me if I had a birth certificate. I replied that I was unaware of having (that means 'holding as a fiduciary or surety') any such thing. I asked, "Don't the birth certificates you are referring to belong to the State?" (He kept going on and shouting how we were "in the State of ..." trying to intentionally get me into an aggressive mode and thereby he undermined the King's Peace and offended the Crown in the process.--so I put the question to him about "the State" he was going on and on about.) He replied: "Yes." I asked "And so if it belongs to the State the 'names' on the thing you call a birth certificate also belong to the State then, right?" { I already knew the answers but figured but all his talk about "the State" the questions popped into my head and maybe subconsciously I felt it important to get the facts through his skull.} He replied "Yes." And I replied: "Well as far as I know I'm not the state. So how can any of those things be mine." He instantly said "I want you to leave!" Yet he was the one who got in my way and started the chat not me. I asked "How about me and my friend stay and continue to talk for a while?" He said "I want you to leave?" I said: "You know what. I decided that I will leave."

I have little respect for anyone who disrespects the office and the uniform while wearing it. Yet, I showed all of them love, patience and kindness throughout the entire 45 minute or so theft of my time.

Now before the BC question, I had been asked if I had a last name, SSN, date of birth, if I was unemployed. And I got ask those things TWICE by two cops including the tiny-sized duty officer. I am neither employed, employable, unemployed nor self-employed. I said however that I have the right to work. Employment is a servitude. I made it clear: no last name, no date of birth, no 'residence'. "Where is your house?" "North of here." "Is it in the city or is it in 'the count'?" "As far as I know its on the side of a hill not to far from {the forest or whatever obvious terrain marker} about {X} miles from here *pointing* straight that way I'd say." 100% honesty. "Where you born over here?" *cop points to the ground* "When you're a baby you don't tend to remember much of anything, right? As far as my family records show I was born in my family's private household." (just illustrations of Q&A)

I have even been asked if I have a "cell phone number". "What is your cellphone number?" {Last I checked ain't a cellphone!} Answer: "As far as I know my cell phone has a number. I'm unaware of having a cellphone number. Those are for cellphones aren't they?" This is truth. If you answer as 'having' (holding as in owning or being surety for it) they will take you as in ownership of a legal construct of a public utility--seriously. I was also asked about my home phone number. I was perplexed: "As far as I know that is the number of the telephone or telephone line itself. I'm unaware of it being MY number."

I had two forms of I.D.: one of which is a motorist competency certificate in card form. The other was a special driving license or evidence of the right to drive issued to me as non-resident (let's just say it was court issued)--neither ID were of U.S. State jurisdiction. He himself even asserted the validity of the license which he himself called a driver's license when he asked "Do you have any other license? Have you ever applied for any other license?" Now to apply for something means to do it willingly--and if you say yes you will be buying "the whole horse" of his meaning. To be a party to anything means to so WILLINGLY by definition. Keep that in mind. I had never been arrested or actually convicted of any crime. Truth is: I have never applied for any licenses, passports or anything of the kind he was suggesting.

I had earlier even asked him if he would like to shoot me or arrest me too because he was getting very red in the face and angry and spitting like a total psychopath. Honestly, I was 110% in the right. The first cop simply approached me out of curiosity. 'We just like to know who is out here?" I suppose going to a vending machine at night (as if that matters) to get two drinks and return to my car then drive to the same parking spot I left to talk PEACEFULLY and QUIETLY with a friend (having made ZERO noise or commotion) on the private parking lot of a crowded shopping center with a hundred workers buzzing away was something full of astonishment and wonder? TBH, the duty boss (3rd policy enforcement officer) came off as a total psychopath who shouldn't be holding office. He was angry over the realization that I'm not one of his subjects. The other two cops with him were pretty cool guys. If I ran the department, I'd probably have fired or demoted the duty boss and promoted the more senior cop (bigger guy and far more sane and in control IMHO.)

Keep in mind, not holding any public office of any kind == no last name. Wouldn't it be pretty odd for me to confess to all the liabilities of someone holding an office yet receiving ZERO benefits, pay. Why would I do something as freaking stupid as that? I have never received a single dime of benefits from the U.S. government. I haven't even received ('receiving' can be a crime, btw) a dime of unemployment, welfare. So not on the public payroll, not on the public dole, no free public housing, no free public car, no free public anything: why should I have any liabilities that go with having received something I never got?

So why was he angry? Cos I aint his b--subject.

BLBereans

12-05-15, 08:16 PM

Well maybe the state and the original purpose wasn't intended to be harmful to you and the reason state issues the certificate is so that you can use it to your advantage. But the disinformation is designed to make you not see that the state is willingly taking liability for the person as opposed to the bankster controlled MSM which has hidden the truth from you. Consider the trustee that hates you, vs. the trustee that loves you. The trustee that hates you knows how much you have and how wealthy you are would rather give you a million dollars buried under layers of cow poop and call it a sculpture hoping you will throw it away and not dig deeper.

It was not my intention to suggest that the state and the original purpose was intended to be harmful. In fact, I thought I suggested just the opposite.

Who gains an advantage when the state issued certificate is used? I say the state gets the advantage whether one uses it belligerently (as most people do due to the disinformation you mentioned) or peacefully and honorably.

shikamaru

12-06-15, 12:18 PM

It was not my intention to suggest that the state and the original purpose was intended to be harmful. In fact, I thought I suggested just the opposite.

Who gains an advantage when the state issued certificate is used? I say the state gets the advantage whether one uses it belligerently (as most people do due to the disinformation you mentioned) or peacefully and honorably.

Historical bit:

The Church originally administered births (baptisms), marriages (banns), and deaths (probate) in England.

David Merrill

12-06-15, 04:42 PM

I can see how a template of trust law might indicate this is true. However you indicate there might be some kind of monetary value or even any value whatsoever to this certificate?

I went through all this with a Canadian Freeman named Robert MANARD. There is a clause in the constitution there about "Security of the Person" he misconstrued miserably. You might be able to view this video by searching around for it - Security of the Person. The 5:00 Minute Mark had Rob telling the viewer (1:00 Hour Mark too) that the Canadian Birth Certificate was a stock certificate worth quite a bit of money - untrue.

He seems to have given up his quest to assert this myth.

Any beneficial interest certificate is only evidence of interest. The value of the property which one holds a share in can only be known when said property has a buyer. That is the beauty of trust. The BIC holder only holds an interest in personality. And that is generally reflected in avails proceeds etc. therefore the BIC itself is valueless. Therefore not taxable. The rich use this simple strategy. It is quite effective when one has a skilled trustee.

Nobody ever seems to be finding any real connection to the Birth Certificate of even Certificate of Live Birth to any redeemable value. This leaves me to believe it is nothing but a health record for tracking population for statistical and maybe even epidemiological purposes. There has been a comment about registration of a new CROWN ORGANIZATION, which might appertain to City of London and Vatican in conjunction - but without redeemable value I am still unconvinced that the Birth Certificate is a financial instrument.

So I focus on these two posts at the beginning of the thread. I am left to wonder how to describe:

If a properly issued trust value certificate is filled out and endorsed by the beneficiaries on the backside, then the original is returned to the Trustee in trust, it seems to me that the Trustee is full owner in trust. The Trust is still extant for the health, welfare and beneficial interest of the beneficiaries but with fully endorsed value returned to the Trustee the corpus of the trust, the real property is "owned" by the Trustee.

Now this applies to accepting debt for currency, then endorsing the debt, and returning it to a state or national bank. But this still seems to be a transaction completely independent of the Birth Certificate as an instrument. The Birth Certificate almost always plays a role in identification because you need one to get the Government-Issued ID card that identifies you to the Bank. So I am always watching for that evidence linking the BC to finances.

Holographic overlay tells me that guilt - Paul's Roman citizenship overlaid by his Benjamite upbringing in sacrificial law - converts God's love into currency.

Jesus better NOT come back, until MY church is in the black!

David Merrill

12-06-15, 04:46 PM

P.S. Do you see it?

No church will ever be in the black so long as debt/death/doubt is tendered as a currency.

Michael Joseph

12-06-15, 06:40 PM

I am unable to accept any right of which I am not a party to the original contract.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

The foregoing tells me that the "beast" system is a global international system and Ezekiel 27/28 tells me that it is based in commerce. Thusly all I had to do was look at what is required today to enter into the commercial realm. What name and number must be used in order to "buy and sell"? Now then, Revelations tells us that All were made to receive this mark but that some would gain the victory over the system!

One key is the understanding of the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb. The former is found at Deut 32 and the latter is found at Rev 15:3-4.

allodial is right the mere use of a Surname understands the presumption of participation in the public trust. What I mean by that is participation UNDER an existing contract. Now consider how repugnant it is to the mind to receive rights from a contract of which one is not a party. Consider any man's life work - is another man with the ability to just take from the former? And yet, if I am not a signor unto the existing contract, then any rights that may be granted may also be revoked - these are civil in nature.

Thusly the courts established to promote justice and ensure equity are sitting UNDER the existing contract and anyone who is not a signor must be granted rights. One who is then grantee, especially in a Fiefdom [of central banking] becomes trustee - a mere tenant in fee.

Thusly you have the right to an attorney, you have the right to represent yourself or you have the right to waive these rights - do you understand these rights? I usually just respond with I want none of the above as those rights issue from a contract of which I am not a signor! Or, perhaps I may not even respond directly but indirectly with "I AM come to keep this court from fraud."

Scripture Law shall not be broken and a man who refuses to provide maintenance for his family is worse than a heathen! Thusly, I must leave "hidel" [sanctuary] to perform husbandry to my family so as not to offend God and man. I can have no other God's before Me. The matter has been heard before my court and settled in my consciousness.

Rom 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit,
Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Faith does not compel me to perform duty and obligation when realized in the light of Love. Love is better. I keep my word in Love not at the end of a gun, for there can be no peace at the end of a gun. Forced peace is no peace. A banking system of limited liability understood by insurance can never settle all the concerns - for how much insurance is enough? And if not enough insurance is found, then who will settle the debt? And how will this debtor live to provide maintenance for himself and his family? The latter is a key concept. For it shows man turning his back on God seeking self determination and will above Cosmic Will. And yet the man walking under the Administration of the Holy Spirit may not be wealthy and yet "If God be for you, who can be against you." Said another way "Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's Elect?"

And thusly, in like kind the officers of State are upon full immunity in their office as long as they are properly bonded in oath to God and to the People. Else there is mere ego in individual capacity - a business plan to make money off the backs of the ignorant!

Not all who are of the physical blood line of Israel are Israel. For Jacob did not become Israel until he overcame the personage of Flesh. Then he became a prince. His name was written in the book of Life - Heavenly Live Birth Registry. He could sit down as a husbandman in the earth. His family formed a nation-state. He was established under the Providence of God!

Deu 32:9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

Deu 32:10 He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.

Deu 32:11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings:

Deu 32:12 So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.

Deut 32:10 refers to the natural man of whom God works in his life to bring him to the 6th day Man [Genesis 1]. But then is perfected [reference Job and Hebrews 6:1-4] into the 7th day man.

Let us as Jacob strive to become an Israel with God. Under God - a Friend of God - working IN TRUST with the Ever Living. A true Israel. What now of a banking system of debt? Consider the Wisdom of this verse in regard to debt:

Deu 32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?

What is this strange word "requite" - it means to benefit as in the people today have this false assumption that they are benefiting God as a benefactor unto the Heavenly Realms. But who is greater the Potter or the pot? And thusly the Kingdom is the LORD's.

Jesus to Pilate: You have no authority except that which has been granted by my Heavenly Father. A higher survey - a greater Kingdom. A universal Kingdom in hope - held in abeyance until the day the King manifests in you - Christ be FORMED within. Then the Prince returns and is established - and there shall be no other God's before Me.

How now does one act as to not "offend"? Seeing there is but One ARK and One Pilot of that One ARK - there is but one true church - and its members are of true Israel. These do not require their names to be inscribed or ascribed or described in some earthly role for these are mere estates of a dead man. Established in Testamentary Trust - a dead hand - administrated by "successors in office". But we see the "6th day Man" - the spiritual man and this man is "friend of God". It is Moses who went into the wilderness to meet a "friend of God" - Reuel.

1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Look at the AWESOME trust vested in the Spiritual Man - 6th day Man. A friend of God working together to PERFECT said Man into the 7th day - Rest. I say Perfect in light of the following:

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.

Those who would trample the outer court in religious ignorance are as the swine who ran off the cliff into the sea. These are not of the Spiritual "commonwealth of Israel". Nevertheless when the man-child [Israel] is born to the Woman the dragon always stands ready to devour her child but his name is written and established in a Book of Life - a Heavenly Register of Live Birth.

Jesus to Nicodemus - Ye must be born again! Or Born of the Spirit. For we are initially born of water, of which the physical woman's water represents TRUTH - which is the true baptism. Not merely in or under water but in Truth. And we must be born by experience [fire]. Thusly in El Shaddai we see this dual aspect of a Mother's breast feeding the milk but also the Mother's instruction of her children.

We are all left with no excuse for the spiritual truth plays before our very eyes - couched in offices which undertake for a dead man's estate. That too is a great mystery. Has Christ returned in you?

Galations 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

Let us recognize the Woman [Holy Spirit] who rains truth upon us such that one day we shall see to see and the water shall turn into Wine. And then we each as Noah can sit down in the Ark sealed up by God - we ride thru the storm with all of our clean and unclean thoughts and desires [desires] and upon settling upon a High Mountain we can sit down as a Husbandman in the earth. UNDER the Providence of God - according to "Thy Will be done in earth as it is in Heaven."

All we need is here - Planet Eden has plenty to go around. We only need to transition from Love birthed from Faith to a new paradigm - Faith birthed from Love. I wonder if any can even Imagine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUGSYDKUxU) such a paradigm. A Heaven birthed into the earth. A great Hope.

Any certificate begs a Contract. But they said with one accord:

1Sa 8:19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;

1Sa 8:20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

Everywhere one looks, one cannot help but see a classroom.

walter

12-06-15, 06:55 PM

Nobody ever seems to be finding any real connection to the Birth Certificate of even Certificate of Live Birth to any redeemable value. ONLY ONES I KNOW OF SO FAR WERE FOR COURT DISCHARGE This leaves me to believe it is nothing but a health record for tracking population for statistical and maybe even epidemiological purposes. THE ACT OF REGISTRATION OF THE BC WAS ALWAYS NOTED THAT HEALTH RECORDS AND CENSUS PURPOSES WERE ALWAYS SECOND AND NEVER THE MAIN REASON. There has been a comment about registration of a new CROWN ORGANIZATION, which might appertain to City of London and Vatican in conjunction - but without redeemable value I am still unconvinced that the Birth Certificate is a financial instrument.

So I focus on these two posts at the beginning of the thread. I am left to wonder how to describe:

If a properly issued trust value certificate is filled out and endorsed by the beneficiaries on the backside, then the original is returned to the Trustee in trust, it seems to me that the Trustee is full owner in trust. The Trust is still extant for the health, welfare and beneficial interest of the beneficiaries but with fully endorsed value returned to the Trustee the corpus of the trust, the real property is "owned" by the Trustee.

Now this applies to accepting debt for currency, then endorsing the debt, and returning it to a state or national bank. But this still seems to be a transaction completely independent of the Birth Certificate as an instrument. The Birth Certificate almost always plays a role in identification because you need one to get the Government-Issued ID card that identifies you to the Bank. So I am always watching for that evidence linking the BC to finances. ONLY MONEYS I HAVE FOUND CONNECTED TO THE BC IS THE $2000 FINE FOR USING A CANCELLED ONE.

Holographic overlay tells me that guilt - Paul's Roman citizenship overlaid by his Benjamite upbringing in sacrificial law - converts God's love into currency.

Jesus better NOT come back, until MY church is in the black!

§ 2-105. Definitions: Transferability; "Goods"; "Future" Goods; "Lot"; "Commercial Unit".

(1) "Goods" means all things (including specially manufactured goods) which are movable at the time of identification to the contract for sale other than the money in which the price is to be paid, investment securities (Article 8) and things in action. "Goods" also includes the unborn young of animals and growing crops and other identified things attached to realty as described in the section on goods to be severed from realty (Section 2-107).

(2) Goods must be both existing and identified before any interest in them can pass. Goods which are not both existing and identified are "future" goods. A purported present sale of future goods or of any interest therein operates as a contract to sell.

So "existing" would be the "event record" which is the SOLB.
And "identified" would be the registration of a NAME, the BC.
Then the "interest" can pass.
With out the BC, "identification" is impossible to complete the transfer.
Interest can't pass.

All BC's have a PERSON as a subject. Subject of the Crown because the BC is crown copy written.

Here is proof that a BC can be used for discharge.
Vital Statistic Act
36(1)(e) an officer of any provincial government or the government of Canada who requires the certificate for use in the discharge of official duties;

The bones of it is they want us to use the BC and not the SOLB.
The BC I hold is blue, and the SOLB is gold/yellow with purple trim.
Blue = Admiralty = BC = de-facto ,,, gold/yellow = Royalty = SOLB = de jure

David Merrill

12-06-15, 10:07 PM

Faith does not compel me to perform duty and obligation when realized in the light of Love. Love is better. I keep my word in Love not at the end of a gun, for there can be no peace at the end of a gun. Forced peace is no peace. A banking system of limited liability understood by insurance can never settle all the concerns - for how much insurance is enough? And if not enough insurance is found, then who will settle the debt? And how will this debtor live to provide maintenance for himself and his family?

Everywhere one looks, one cannot help but see a classroom.

Thank you for the thought-provoking post Michael Joseph.

One has difficulty ARGUING passive non-combativeness. One must simply keep an understanding that redemption lies in forgiveness.

§ 2-105. Definitions: Transferability; "Goods"; "Future" Goods; "Lot"; "Commercial Unit".

(1) "Goods" means all things (including specially manufactured goods) which are movable at the time of identification to the contract for sale other than the money in which the price is to be paid, investment securities (Article 8) and things in action. "Goods" also includes the unborn young of animals and growing crops and other identified things attached to realty as described in the section on goods to be severed from realty (Section 2-107).

(2) Goods must be both existing and identified before any interest in them can pass. Goods which are not both existing and identified are "future" goods. A purported present sale of future goods or of any interest therein operates as a contract to sell.

So "existing" would be the "event record" which is the SOLB.
And "identified" would be the registration of a NAME, the BC.
Then the "interest" can pass.
With out the BC, "identification" is impossible to complete the transfer.
Interest can't pass.

All BC's have a PERSON as a subject. Subject of the Crown because the BC is crown copy written.

Here is proof that a BC can be used for discharge.
Vital Statistic Act
36(1)(e) an officer of any provincial government or the government of Canada who requires the certificate for use in the discharge of official duties;

The bones of it is they want us to use the BC and not the SOLB.
The BC I hold is blue, and the SOLB is gold/yellow with purple trim.
Blue = Admiralty = BC = de-facto ,,, gold/yellow = Royalty = SOLB = de jure

It still comes off circumstantial and tangential. The system holds no redemptive value. I suppose that the presumption is everybody accepts debt to have value.

BLBereans

12-06-15, 10:44 PM

Obviously neither the person created nor the CERTIFICATE associated with it hold any intrinsic value; the value is passed through the person as a transmitting utility to facilitate commerce. Value passes through the person via the living. The CERTIFICATE is evidence of the event that a person was created and was registered with the STATE. The value passing through the entity is what is used as collateral and what is speculated against. The instrument certifies that a person exists and that value may pass through it and into the system.

BLBereans

12-07-15, 12:33 AM

Furthermore, the person is used to title, market and store value. That is why that practice is "regulated"; it is a practice which is in direct contradiction of God's Will and the teachings of Jesus the Christ.

God gives unto man freely in covenant. Man has no "ownership" claim which God recognizes. Claiming "ownership" is an affront to divinely ordained stewardship. Laying claim to property (exclusive right of use) in order to fulfill God's purpose for your life is NOT equivalent to claiming title in order to gain or store profits. Claiming title to anything, via the use of a person, is a claim of trust in worldly wealth and treasures. That is why it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom.

The person can be used to benefit ME or to benefit ALL; the STATE is the authority which monitors the manner in which people use said STATE-created persons and is also the enforcement arm of proper use. The public trust is the lawful and intended beneficiary of the value passed through the person. Those who wish to KEEP for themselves utilize the PRIVATE side of the system which requires the adherence of the numerous rules, regulations and fees associated with PRIVATE claims of marketable title and ownership.

David Merrill

12-07-15, 01:33 AM

Michael Joseph

12-07-15, 05:12 AM

allodial

12-07-15, 06:23 PM

Recognition of debt having value renders thinkers like you insane.

The value is in exemption, lawful sovereign prerogative, lawful money and substance. It may be that debt is only best ever looked at as in invitation for the foregoing (which encompasses forgiveness, mercy and grace). That they are clearly taking liability for the PERSON is worth noting.

walter

12-07-15, 06:49 PM

That they are clearly taking liability for the PERSON is worth noting.

Pauper's were the church's responsibility. That's why the church kept the register.
I think it was Benjamin Franklin whom said when asked about what they did about the poor in America. (before FRN;s)
His response was that there were none.
Everyone had work and there was no unemployment.

If you think about the BC the main reason you need one is because you don't have enough funds to live in today's world.
You need it to get a job to make money.
You need it for health insurance because you can't afford the Dr.
You need it for baby bonus money.
You need it for unemployment money.
You need it old age pension because you are broke.
etc.
The poor are liabilities to whom ever jurisdiction they sit in.

allodial

12-07-15, 06:57 PM

Pauper's were the church's responsibility. That's why the church kept the register.
I think it was Benjamin Franklin whom said when asked about what they did about the poor in America. (before FRN;s)
His response was that there were none.
Everyone had work and there was no unemployment.

If you think about the BC the main reason you need one is because you don't have enough funds to live in today's world.
You need it to get a job to make money.
You need it for health insurance because you can't afford the Dr.
You need it for baby bonus money.
You need it for unemployment money.
You need it old age pension because you are broke.
etc.
The poor are liabilities to whom ever jurisdiction they sit in.

Good points but key thing is that value comes from God and men. The poor need money to acquire what? Things men make or distribute in exchange for money, right? Is there anything in a big box retailer that isn't made by a man or by God? The stores are 'firewalls' that trick the minds of some into failing to realize that everything in there is made by man or by God.

Does not the State need labor and creativity to function according to a certain standard of living? Would there would be any babies, baby sitters, soldiers, tanks, movies, movie cameras, spies, smartphones, maids, security guards, architects, buildings, etc. without God or men, women, children or maidens? How does the State or a creature of the State lawfully acquire needful things without gold or silver pay the workman? Who is poor: (A) the man or woman with skills, energy, brains, weapons and land; or (B) the soul-less Monsantos, Citibanks, etc. that don't have any lawful money whatsoever to acquire the things they need to operate from the men or women who have skills, energy and brains?

How long would the Soviet Union have functioned without a single man, woman, maiden or child willing to expend even so much as nanowatt of energy or thought in support? How long would Monsanto, Unilver, the State, the United States (a state), the United Nations, etc. function without a single man, woman, maiden or child willing to expend even so much as nanowatt of energy or thought in support? None of them would function or exist and if they existed they would rapidly fade from human memory without such support. This is not a slight against any of the foregoing or against any legitimate and lawful government. Its for perspective. Afterall, what Legitimate and lawful government requires hokey gimmicks to function?

***

Now imagine a King who has a duty to prosper his kingdom and those under his rule. Everyone is given a Royal Bond and Certificate so that they can exchange and trade needful things and provide them to the royal family, to the lords and to the commoners peacefully and equitably. Maybe the reason career merchants were kept out of Britain because they were non-producers and would disrupt the equity and posed a danger to the society. Of course, the merchants these days don't t want do business with anyone that doesn't have a Royal Bond or the equivalent, Why is that? For something that is allegedly worthless, they sure make a big deal out of you/me having it. Why is that?

Related:
Royal Warrant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Warrant_of_Appointment_%28United_Kingdom%29)
Royal Charter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_charter)

BLBereans

12-11-15, 12:33 AM

Recognition of debt having value renders thinkers like you insane.

For someone who claims "pragmatism" as his gospel, your reply is beyond insane.

Please explain to the rest of the "lowly masses" why this statement...

Furthermore, the person is used to title, market and store value. That is why that practice is "regulated"; it is a practice which is in direct contradiction of God's Will and the teachings of Jesus the Christ.

comes from an "insane thinker".

Do you use anything other than a "debt instrument" to procure products and services?

David Merrill

12-11-15, 05:37 AM

I meant it as a compliment.

When you break things out into substance or debt, it is the world that is insane.

xparte

12-11-15, 09:06 AM

Being of a insane world or being insane because of it is DEBT not how the beast or the world is [FED] living in the old testament eye for eye nobody can square a debt. forgive the insanity yep a iconic compliment as we are all insane by a default valued debt system.or a fair share complimentary debt.in or of the instrument?

BLBereans

12-11-15, 12:40 PM

I meant it as a compliment.

When you break things out into substance or debt, it is the world that is insane.

...renders thinkers like you insane.

I find it excruciatingly difficult to parse your style. However, I will take you at your word. I apologize for taking your comment the wrong way.

I agree; it is the world that is insane when it values titles, wealth and profit in a NAME created by the STATE that operates in the DEAD realm. Having said that, that is how the system is set up and in order to "keep the lights on" one must utilize the "value" (however backward and false it may be) from the system which converts real substance (man's time, energy and labor) into debt currency.

The option for us is whether we recognize that fact, or not, and see the "profits" and "wealth" of the system for what they truly are - DEBT in a DEAD world.

That is why we of like mind "come out of her", use out of necessity at arms length and make NO claims to the DEAD things of the world.

walter

12-11-15, 05:59 PM

I agree; it is the world that is insane when it values titles, wealth and profit in a NAME created by the STATE that operates in the DEAD realm. Having said that, that is how the system is set up and in order to "keep the lights on" one must utilize the "value" (however backward and false it may be) from the system which converts real substance (man's time, energy and labor) into debt currency.

The option for us is whether we recognize that fact, or not, and see the "profits" and "wealth" of the system for what they truly are - DEBT in a DEAD world.

That is why we of like mind "come out of her", use out of necessity at arms length and make NO claims to the DEAD things of the world.

Interesting you said "keep the lights on", maybe like a Chandelier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkB5si9oajY

"Hold me when I am down.
Bury my soul underneath the ground.
let my blood keep pumpin'.
My heart keep beatin'.
Shining like a chandelier."

Sounds like someone sold their soul to Satan.
They have a soul buried underground yet the heart and blood still pump illuminating light.
Hollow shells.

BLBereans

12-11-15, 10:47 PM

Interesting you said "keep the lights on", maybe like a Chandelier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkB5si9oajY

"Hold me when I am down.
Bury my soul underneath the ground.
let my blood keep pumpin'.
My heart keep beatin'.
Shining like a chandelier."

Sounds like someone sold their soul to Satan.
They have a soul buried underground yet the heart and blood still pump illuminating light.
Hollow shells.

I guess I meant it more literally, however, I comprehend your point.

allodial

12-12-15, 03:00 AM

I figured you meant "keep the lights on" as in ... paying the electric bill.

walter

12-13-15, 06:17 PM

BLBereans

12-13-15, 06:45 PM

A Conversation With John Trudell
29:00 minute mark he talks about "mining".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuUQzN-G2w

The BC is used to mine human energy.
Keeping the individual human being out of balance out of synchronicity with themselves.

I disagree. The BC is used as a test tool; will you give unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar or will you make claim to things outside of God?

Will you claim, keep and store for the benefit of ME or will you give all for the benefit of ALL?

walter

12-13-15, 08:10 PM

allodial

12-13-15, 10:26 PM

Authoritarianism Law & Legal Definition

Authoritarianism refers to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state. In authoritarianism, individual freedom is centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally created. Authoritarian political systems may be weakened through inadequate performance to demands of the people

That is why the Secular Humanists / Communists push administrative law and set up private councils to pretend to be lawful government. Take a look at experience in Australia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umVj5XQYAi8

Now those who tie the alleged erosion of rights to the money system. If they tell you that since you used FRNs to buy your car, you don't fully own it then how is the debt valid if you didn't actually lend lawful money? You get that? A didn't lend B anything of value but yet A claims be has the right to take over B's company because B allegedly owes A something? If what they allegedly lent you had value then why are they laughing at the idea of you owning the car you bought with it? Key: avoid allowing yourself to be fooled.

pumpkin

12-16-15, 12:53 PM

allodial

12-17-15, 12:25 AM

A replevin succeeds upon strength of title of the claimant, not the weakness of title of one in possession. So what if the destroy the title, I am in possession. What if they impound it? There are only three reasons in law to seize property, attachment, replevin, and arrest. The first two are out, and arrest concerns contraband (notice you'll find that word throughout controlled substance code), which by definition means imported goods for which its tariff has not been paid. They may claim abandonment, but that doesn't fly if you are forced to leave the car.

Abandonment can be by way of abandonment of claim. I'm not sure how one can destroy the title in the sense of tearing it up. Title is abstract...conceptual. You can tear of evidence of title (which can be full or divided {equitable or legal}). If there is further evidence in some register then it might be necessary to remove the relevant entry from that register. The word property is related to 'proprietorship' and in latin 'proprietas' (i.e. ownerhship). The personification of vessels (yes even inanimate objects--even of NAMES) is alive and well thusly ownership = suretyship.

Re: abandonment perhaps this language might be more profound: "Failure to make a claim. {PERIOD!}"

walter

12-28-15, 05:30 PM

Watched the movie "Maze Runner" last night and there was a line in there that stuck in my head.
It was after their minds had been wiped clean by "WCKD".
They could only remember their given name, nothing else.

"It's the one thing they let us keep,"

How profound. We own one thing and we can't protect it. Or can we?

Michael Joseph

12-28-15, 06:56 PM

Do you suppose that one could make a demand for lawful money drawn on the Bank of the United States if one was not subscribed to that bank?

walter

12-28-15, 10:13 PM

Do you suppose that one could make a demand for lawful money drawn on the Bank of the United States if one was not subscribed to that bank?

Well one would have to qualify wouldn't they?

Michael Joseph

12-29-15, 01:06 AM

Well one would have to qualify wouldn't they?

or be an heir by birth?

george

12-29-15, 11:20 PM

somebody that I know said they were born in DC so I asked them what state was on their BC so they checked it and said it didnt have a state but "District of Columbia"

I didnt think that would have been possible? but there is (or was) a hospital in DC where kids are born and then certificated.

I guess that is not good. I mean anyone can act as a 14ther but this one has no choice it seems.. is there anything that could be done about it for them?

ohiofoiarequest

12-30-15, 02:30 AM

.. is there anything that could be done about it for them?

Perhaps they could express a trust.

Now a pertinent maxim...Equity aids the vigilant, not the indolent.

ohiofoiarequest

12-30-15, 02:32 AM

Do you suppose that one could make a demand for lawful money drawn on the Bank of the United States if one was not subscribed to that bank?

Question to satisfy my ignorance (and being too lazy to perform an extensive Google search at this time)...what does it mean to be subscribed to a bank...endorsing their credit or something?

george

12-30-15, 03:33 AM

Perhaps they could express a trust.

Now a pertinent maxim...Equity aids the vigilant, not the indolent.

yes, very much so I think.

Question to satisfy my ignorance (and being too lazy to perform an extensive Google search at this time)...what does it mean to be subscribed to a bank...endorsing their credit or something?

sub-scribed? subscribed is an interesting word. have you seen the micro-printed (MP)signature line on the checks lately? (need a magnifying glass)

ohiofoiarequest

12-30-15, 03:54 AM

Mine say authorized signature.

"mine" means the stack of personal checks written me which I've redeemed in lawful money (gold) of the United States.

And don't for a second believe that I don't think gold and silver are unclean things...

PS has anyone heard of the Chicago plan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_plan)? It may have been written into 12usc411...

PSS sorry for the threadjack...lawful money is defined as gold https://books.google.com/books?id=izO25SyQU9QC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=chicago+plan+lawful+money+gold&source=bl&ots=hg6E9q4ZGX&sig=c5OTz2sT3QUwOz7pImmWqrsiv7E&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqtq2_2oLKAhVHdh4KHfkGDHsQ6AEIHzAB#v=on epage&q=chicago%20plan%20lawful%20money%20gold&f=falsehttp://

David Merrill

12-30-15, 09:19 AM

Thank you! I had not heard of the Chicago Plan.

These memoranda generated much interest and discussion among lawmakers but the suggested reforms, such as the abolition of the fractional reserve system and imposition of 100% reserves on demand deposits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand_deposit), were set aside and replaced by watered down alternative measures.

Check out Demand Deposit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand_deposit).

Demand deposits, bank money or scriptural money[1] are funds held in demand deposit accounts in commercial banks.[2] These account balances are usually considered money and form the greater part of the narrowly defined money supply of a country.

This is what we have discussed around here as special deposit. This is US Notes in the form of Federal Reserve Notes.

Michael Joseph

12-30-15, 05:51 PM

Question to satisfy my ignorance (and being too lazy to perform an extensive Google search at this time)...what does it mean to be subscribed to a bank...endorsing their credit or something?

You don't strike me as ignorant. However, consider the UNDERTAKING when one subscribes his/her signature - expressing one's Trust In - central banking. This is a voluntary deed which is recorded in expression on the back of a check. A check is not legal tender!

SUBSCRIBE:
1. To write underneath; to put a signature at the end of a printed or written instrument.

3. In relation to the law of corporations, a subscriber is one who has made an agreement to take a portion of the original issue of corporate stock.

I think that meaning 3 references the Birth Certificate. I see the nation-states as businesses. It is said of the false shepherd that his "bough" is above all the other "trees of the garden" and that he has multiple streams watering his tree! Thusly given in Rev 13 that He causes all to receive a mark, that would indicate that a worldwide business plan would effect a mechanism of which all would succumb. Thusly that nation-states would become and, IMO, have become gigantic corporate interests which are traded. The actual physical goods are no longer exchanged - Ref Bank of International Settlements.

War is the eventual end of this game which in effect is just discharge.

===================

Therefore by voluntary consent one is Re-Venued into the Estate of the Taxpayer. Whereof the estate is licensed or leased out to Husbandmen who tend to the vineyard established by the international banker! But before this business plan could be effected the Heir of all had to be killed. And beauty had to be poisoned with an apple. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14WDZCnz-w)

Jose can you see?
I can see perfectly.

Best Regards,
MJ

george

12-31-15, 12:54 AM

Thank you! I had not heard of the Chicago Plan.

nor I, (no surprise) but seems very interesting ohiofoirequest. yes, thanks for sharing here.

You don't strike me as ignorant. However, consider the UNDERTAKING when one subscribes his/her signature - expressing one's Trust In - central banking. This is a voluntary deed which is recorded in expression on the back of a check. A check is not legal tender!

SUBSCRIBE:
1. To write underneath; to put a signature at the end of a printed or written instrument.

3. In relation to the law of corporations, a subscriber is one who has made an agreement to take a portion of the original issue of corporate stock.

I think that meaning 3 references the Birth Certificate. I see the nation-states as businesses. It is said of the false shepherd that his "bough" is above all the other "trees of the garden" and that he has multiple streams watering his tree! Thusly given in Rev 13 that He causes all to receive a mark, that would indicate that a worldwide business plan would effect a mechanism of which all would succumb. Thusly that nation-states would become and, IMO, have become gigantic corporate interests which are traded. The actual physical goods are no longer exchanged - Ref Bank of International Settlements.

War is the eventual end of this game which in effect is just discharge.

===================

Therefore by voluntary consent one is Re-Venued into the Estate of the Taxpayer. Whereof the estate is licensed or leased out to Husbandmen who tend to the vineyard established by the international banker! But before this business plan could be effected the Heir of all had to be killed. And beauty had to be poisoned with an apple. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14WDZCnz-w)

Jose can you see?
I can see perfectly.

Best Regards,
MJ

that was very insightful MJ. it seems either I am getting better at comprehending your writing more lately or you are getting better composing it in some way, perhaps both?

I am thankful for it all.

george

01-01-16, 11:43 PM

since we had mentioned "subscribe" it made me take a second look at the word "describe".

subscribe seems to make perfect sense but "de-scribe" seems counter intuitive. and then there is "description", even worse it seems (De-Script-Ion)

what do y'all make of this?

thanks

walter

03-11-16, 11:36 PM

A birth certificate is a “license” to use government issued name.

Proved myself wrong with this statement.
Licenses can be transferred, like logging license, commercial fishing license, etc.
The NAME can not.

David Merrill

03-12-16, 12:07 AM

What about restructure?

walter

03-12-16, 06:44 AM

What about restructure?

hummmm..........

David Merrill

03-12-16, 10:42 AM

Going way back, late '95, the 31-Day Government Shutdown was a restructure but the US came out of it with the same name. Maybe it went in as the 1871 Corporation and came out sounding and spelling exactly the same? Could it toggle between the United States and the UNITED STATES?

The State of Colorado Corporation was told to me, to be incorporated into THE STATE OF COLORADO CAPITAL FINANCE CORPORATION. So I liened it up for $20M. When I offered the lien to China and published my NOTICE OF LIEN to BRICS nations, for trade against that foreign basket of currencies, the AG, SUTHERS restructured it. - Changed its name? The Secretary of State reports he "voluntarily dissolved" it.

walter

03-12-16, 05:37 PM

David Merrill

03-12-16, 06:42 PM

Similar to a friend placing a lien on a cops badge number.
The department issued him a new badge and number and made him change his gun as well.

Restructure.

xparte

03-13-16, 01:17 AM

Restructure.placing a lien on a the ssn number.or badge number
If i am not employed with a government department it wont be issued to me a new badge, or a number or the free use in my true Name how is it i can be made to change my belief that i am this person can i lien the NAMED sue your own person for a true account .Or can think without the use of Dollars and Bills not received .re venues Re instructives,how many hats are we forced to wear.

walter

03-20-16, 08:53 PM

Quebec man wants name stricken from birth certificate of child who isn't his

http://canadiancrc.com/newspaper_articles/Canadian_Press_Quebec_man_wants_name_sticken_from_ birth_certificate_30MAR08.aspx

The Canadian Press, March 30, 2009

MONTREAL — A Quebec man who has failed to have his name removed from the birth certificate of a young girl he found out was not his biological daughter wants to argue his case before the Supreme Court of Canada.

The businessman has already struck out in Quebec Superior Court and in the Quebec Court of Appeal.

Both courts ruled that paternity is ironclad if a man's name is on the birth certificate, if that status is not contested within a year of the child's birth and if other factors, including the same family name, indicate obvious bonds between the child and the parents.

The courts ruled there is little room for interpretation, but the man's lawyer disagreed with both rulings.

"It's not a monetary question as much as it is a question of principle - can we impose a child on a man?" Guylaine Gauthier said in an interview.

"The message the courts have sent is that we can falsely name someone as the father and this goes against the judicial system and the values upon which it is based.

"The question of good faith and bad faith is of major importance here - and I think there's a poor application of the Civil Code."

The man, a native of Rimouski in eastern Quebec, was involved in a common-law relationship with a woman between 1998 and 2005 and the girl was born in 2002.

He testified he had no reason to believe he wasn't the father, but after the relationship ended he learned she'd kept her infidelity from him.

"After he was separated, people came forward and told him who the father was and that person also acknowledged that he was the girl's father," Gauthier said.

In January 2007, a DNA test concluded with a probability of more than 99.99 per cent that Gauthier's client was not the biological father.

Since then, he's had no contact with the young girl and the girl's mother has cut ties with him, but the man is still legally considered her father and could still be responsible for her financially, Gauthier said.

A well-known Quebec family lawyer said she doesn't think the case will even make it to Ottawa as she says the question of filiation has been long settled.

"The theme of this is; filiation has nothing to do with biology," said Anne-France Goldwater.

"Once a child has a birth certificate and the child has a possession of status that matches the certificate, it's over, you cannot contest its filiation ever again."

Goldwater said there is a short window of time to contest, but in the majority of cases, the truth is discovered too late.

"Once his name is on the birth certificate and he has treated the child as his own, filiation is considered irrevocably established," she said.

The Canadian Children's Rights Council, an advocacy group concerned with children's human rights, said statistics reveal that about 10 per cent of Canadians don't have the name of their biological father on their birth certificate.

President Grant Wilson said men should not have to go to court in cases of paternal fraud to have the matter resolved.

Also, judges often rule that "because you've acted like dad long enough, we're making you the dad but unfortunately you can't tell people how to feel," Wilson said.

"Certainly, their relationship is going to be different."

Mandatory DNA testing during pregnancy would go a long way to limit the damage and protect the children from future harm, Wilson said.

"It's extremely damaging to children when they find out the man they thought was their father isn't their father," he said.

Goldwater said seemingly forgotten in the whole affair is the young girl.

"It's a cruelty beyond understanding to break this child's life like that," she said.

I wonder what the out come was?

David Merrill

03-20-16, 09:00 PM

I have a recent indication that PACER may be used by Canada federal courts too. Does anybody know?

The home page (https://www.pacer.gov/psco/cgi-bin/links.pl) does not list any Canadian courts.

walter

03-20-16, 10:05 PM

I have a recent indication that PACER may be used by Canada federal courts too. Does anybody know?

The home page (https://www.pacer.gov/psco/cgi-bin/links.pl) does not list any Canadian courts.

I know that every province has their own system of internet court case tracking.
Here is BC's.
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/search_judgments.aspx

I had a case number on there once but it has magically disappeared.

Check out this web site.
It has the best description on whats happening when a birth is registered.
http://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/english/publications/generale/filiation-a.htm

In order to create a "Filiation" there must first be a "Attestation of birth" (Doctor)
and a "Declaration of birth" (parent).

Also at the very end of the page they have this paragraph that is interesting.

1. Emancipation confers on the minor the freedom to dispose of his or her person as desired and a degree of capacity as regards certain administrative decisions. Emancipation does not confer all the rights enjoyed by persons of full age but releases the minor from the requirement to be represented in the exercise of his or her civil rights.

walter

03-20-16, 10:09 PM

xparte

03-22-16, 06:54 AM

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xparte

03-22-16, 07:51 AM

That'll put PACER on or off this CANADA map search Walter the Free online access to Canadian court dockets remains relatively abysmal in Canada, with there being spotty coverage, depending on the jurisdiction, unlike in the United States where there are fairly exhaustive subscription (fee) services such as LexisNexis CourtLink and Pacer.COURT FILES
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Search the Court’s electronic record for: Court file numbers, names of parties and their legal counsel, filing date / city, related cases, and case history. WELL how does one get a case for redeeming lawful money unless a legislative provision keeps my demand unpublished or my offer is void in CANADA only. now the DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA willingness to take 4 ben franklins is amusement in itself Lloyds of LONDON on the The Potomac the BRETTON WOODS act and TRUMP IS A humanitarian.SATANISTS OWN THE FUTURES and a willingness to bankrupt your Christ. whats in your wallet try 72hrs look up FEDERAL CARNALITY LAWS is it the masking and the mess edified or will i be enjoying both .Frustration is what gas does to any engine cooling the jets is a Carburated guess . with all my post war defeatism the major interests and hidden intelligence a working class hero is something to be they hate you if your clever and despise a fool.

David Merrill

03-22-16, 04:53 PM

SATANISTS OWN THE FUTURES and a willingness to bankrupt your Christ.

I beg to differ. Today is a perfect example. I will tell more later. However this monumental process will be discussed in more detail on Lawful Money Trust (www.lawfulmoneytrust.com) behind the copyright security of membership. It of course comes off as a sales pitch and I cannot assert otherwise. But to you who can appreciate "You get what you pay for." - And for those of you who know how much more you pay attention after paying...

Thank you so much for bringing some of the materials about PACER to light. It will be fun around here, discussing the evidence repository no doubt. I am just saying that the more private trust matters and maybe even minutes of the constitutional Preamble trust will be more private and regulated.

xparte

03-22-16, 09:19 PM

And well you should anyone who is willing to let the Christ within be employed in a speculative futures bond market has redeemed what. It of course comes off as a sales pitch and I cannot assert otherwise. And you're nevertheless a salesman we all are i am guilty of selling the same ideals that a secularized crime has remedy it doesn't if the tools we use are secular.Evil for Evil getting what one pays fore Fore! The etymology for the word "Fore!" is not certain.Being out front or the front lines etymology is a suitors rank always one RED DIGIT away from grace.A spokesman is a salesman i am guilty of a private trust Lloyds of LONDON on the The Potomac the BRETTON WOODS act and TRUMP IS A humanitarian. are in the public trust.A death is never PRIVATE after its identified a public account isn't made private.A private official doesn't exist JUDGE CLERK EMPLOYEE are all dead in law. talking with tombstones or how is it we bring these oath less actors to life well bye adjournment of our private life.A private trust is a living one all adjournments are 3 clear days they kill you publicly 72hrs at a time.DEAD MEN WALKING around in robes a genetic genius.Whats is the GENIES power private wishes.GOBS of copyright or the heat from a private Christ.Humility 101 is truth fights nothing lies fight the truth.One might get what they deserve not what they desire.

xparte

03-22-16, 10:58 PM

How lawful is my private demand well this is one comparison Domestic credit to private sector refers to financial resources provided to the private sector by financial corporations, such as through loans, purchases of non equity securities, and trade credits and other accounts receivable, that establish a claim for repayment.Or what interest would the bearer of lawful money enjoy but a spiritual freedom the shekel is symbolic of a private interest as its lawful under God why else is its exchange necessary .How the courtyard and the temple are separated in Gods eyes. A private offering is not without ones demand to a public record as the lawful exchange is memorialized with a shekel.If Abraham was too laundered money he did it lawfully .

David Merrill

03-23-16, 01:22 AM

Three days is 72 hours...

Thank you for reminding me! Very timely. (har har har).

xparte

03-23-16, 07:19 AM

With all the adjournments your Calendar has subjugated your hardcore base too.just be mindful that three clear days is a powerful identification. A Subjugated identity has the Pagan adjournment its the ROMAN Remand Latin sized judgments. Its my hope clean hands is just a methodology to appreciate i find no fault with this Man and his blood is on you i wash my hands 72 hrs 72 virgins sacrifice its what the planetarium no longer owes as Christ is running a tab on and for the record just as well join him .Turn your water to wine .

xparte

03-24-16, 12:25 PM

Does oracular authority play a vital role in modern secular society?

Yes. Oracular authority needs a community of interpreters, acknowledged experts who reveal the true meaning of a puzzling text. I see that in the U.S. Supreme Court, where the Constitution is often treated as a kind of sacred text whose real meaning is revealed by the Court. Any time a group puts a text at its center and then gives power to a smaller group to interpret it, we are seeing the impact of oracular authority.The forming of a lower court And nowadays normative authority exerts a stronger force in the secular arena than it ever did. The U.S. is a nation of written laws, from the Constitution on down, and its citizenry naturally conflates writing, authority, and law. The very idea of a nation that can be built around a text grew out of the deep respect its founders accorded the authority of texts. Americans are extraordinarily diverse—and without this commitment to such authority, I wonder if we could just function together with just a TRUE NAME and Nature

U.S. Supreme Court, has never been given all the say just the supremacy to say it a voided Oracular authority needs a community of interpreters,The Merrill Complaint at his Supreme Courts great behest and its that annoyance is in the tiniest print nothing squeaks better . Good luck Gringo

In the biblical context, normative authority is taking or justifying an action because "the Bible says we should do it," such as when we apply the commandment "Love your neighbor as yourself" in our interactions with others.

Literary authority is the common phenomenon of authors using earlier texts as models for new ones.

In ancient Israel, there was a professional class of scribes. While they mainly performed the mundane work of bureaucrats, they also formed a kind of literati, a professional class who read each other's works and wrote for one another. As part of their training, scribes regularly copied and modified earlier texts. Thus, many of the biblical texts began as scribal exercises, not as the normative authoritative law codes they claimed to be. Exodus 20-23, for example, which contains what scholars call the Covenant Code, was originally written as a scribal exercise. Later scribes drew and improvised on that text as part of their own training—and this became the core of the Book of Deuteronomy. Few outside of the scribal elite would have even known these texts existed!

The third kind of authority, oracular authority, is the idea that the text contains a message from the Divine realm, usually about the future. Throughout antiquity, this was the primary sense in which the Bible was perceived to be "holy." When, for example, Hosea prophesied the destruction of Israel's Northern Kingdom in the eighth century B.C.E., he turned out to be right, and his book was therefore preserved. Most prophesies that turned out to be wrong were rejected, although a few sneaked by.

How do we know that the Jewish people did not initially perceive the Hebrew Bible as holy in the normative sense?

Simply, most Israelite's and their immediate descendants (they begin to call themselves Jews after the fifth century B.C.E.) could not read. The literacy rate was exceedingly low throughout antiquity. This does not necessarily mean that the people did not know of these scribal texts or did not hear them recited by others, but even if they knew the biblical stories, it would not have been because the stories were in the Bible; the people would have learned them solely orally. They would not have heard these texts recited at the Temple, which performed its sacrifices in silence; synagogues did not exist in the land of Israel before the first century C.E. And it is improbable that people in antiquity, who gave authority to established custom—doing what their family and village had always done—would have undone their traditions based upon an oral tradition that also appeared in a text they couldn't even read. More specifically, little evidence exists from all of antiquity that Jews consulted texts for their normative behavior. In fact, the Bible is replete with countless examples of precisely the opposite—people ignoring biblical rules.

Furthermore, we possess a significant number of legal papyri written by Jews in Egypt in the second century B.C.E. to first century C.E., and not one demonstrates awareness of a distinctive Jewish law, even though by that time other writings show they had begun to acquire some knowledge of biblical texts. Even by the first century C.E., when synagogues arrived in the land of Israel, knowledge of scripture was spotty and its authority did not yet displace custom. Jesus, for example, had very limited knowledge of scripture.

Did the Jewish leadership ever attempt to give normative authority to some biblical texts?

Yes, but their efforts largely failed. Two examples:

In the seventh century B.C.E., Josiah, the king of Judah, instituted a policy of religious reforms that he based on his discovery of an older text that had been found during renovations of the Jerusalem Temple. Notably, this text was the core of Deuteronomy, which up to then had been buried away in the Temple unknown and unread. The biblical account is biased-it's all too clear that its author wished to promulgate Josiah's call for centralizing religious worship around the Temple and eliminating images of deities ("idols")-but even the subjective author had to admit that Josiah's reforms quickly failed, cast off even by his own son.

Fast forward 200 years or so to Ezra the scribe, who returned to Jerusalem from Babylonia in the middle of the fifth century C.E. A functionary of the Persians, who had recently conquered Babylonia, he arrived in Jerusalem armed with a copy of something resembling part of our Torah (scholars debate exactly what) and attempted to use its authority to dissolve the intermarriages he opposed. The Book of Ezra makes clear that Ezra's efforts went nowhere.

Christ got the librarians job no more written words a message on just started with a dozen . his peers perhaps supreme being or message.mice and men take Christ of THAT Commercial Cross he was taken down who put him back up on it and why.

walter

04-11-16, 05:36 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradual_Civilization_Act

Gradual Civilization Act

The Act to Encourage the Gradual Civilization of Indian Tribes in this Province, and to Amend the Laws Relating to Indians (commonly known as the Gradual Civilization Act) was a bill passed by the 5th Parliament of the Province of Canada in 1857.

The treaty built on the "Act for the Protection of the Indians in Upper Canada" passed in 1839, but required the "enfranchisement" of any recognized male Indian over the age of 21 "able to speak, read and write either English or the French language readily and well, and is sufficiently advanced in the elementary branches of education and is of good moral character and free from debt."[1] An "enfranchised" Indian would no longer retain the "legal rights and habilities of Indians" and would "no longer be deemed an Indian" but a regular British subject.[1] Such enfranchisement was mandatory, but any male Indian could be voluntarily enfranchised despite an inability to read or write, or a lack of school education, so long as he spoke English or French, and was found to be "of sober and industrious habits, free from debt and sufficiently intelligent to be capable of managing his own affairs."[1] Voluntary enfranchisement, however, required a three year probation term before it would come into legal effect.

Enfranchisement required that Indians choose a last name (to be approved by appointed commissioners) by which they would become legally known. The wife and descendants of an enfranchised Indian would also be enfranchised, and would no longer be considered members of the former tribe, unless they were to regain Indian status through another marriage.

Enfranchised Indians were entitled to "a piece of land not exceeding fifty acres out of the lands reserved or set apart for the use of his tribe" as allotted by the Superintendent General of Indian Affairs, and "a sum of money equal to the principal of his share of the annuities and other yearly revenues receivable by or for the use of such tribe."[1] This land and money would become their property, but by accepting it, they would "forgo all claim to any further share in the lands or moneys then belonging to or reserved for the use of [their] tribe, and cease to have a voice in the proceedings thereof."[1]

then click on "enfranchisement" and it takes you to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage
Suffrage, political franchise, or simply franchise is the right to vote in public, political elections (although the term is sometimes used for any right to vote).

So there we have it. The BC is an enfranchisement.
Remember the definition of "everyone" in the "Criminal Code of Canada"?
Her majesty and an organization.

en·fran·chise (?n-fr?n?ch?z?)
1. To endow with the rights of citizenship, especially the right to vote.
2. To free, as from bondage.
3. To bestow a franchise on.

David Merrill

04-11-16, 06:11 PM

The name change is quite interesting.

3832

allodial

04-11-16, 11:27 PM

The name change is quite interesting.

3832
A class action suit for all mankind vs all humanity?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxQgN5eXDo

One of the Star Wars prequels has an interesting sequence whereby Annakin becomes, or is named, Darth Vader only moments after he takes an oath to the Sith Lord. In the TV show Arrow (or Green Arrow) sequences concerning the League of Assassins deals with the name change issue more than once. In one related series, a femme joins the Leage of Assassins, then the leader finds reason to release her at her request he tells her something like: "I release you. You can have your name and your past lives back." So effectively, "You are no longer B, you are now A." Honorable discharge?

Once when a woman married, she would cease to be a member of one household and become a member of another. Also, where applicable, women married and would take on their husband's "last name". A woman keeping her name might be letting you know that she is not committed as you might hope.

The Act to Encourage the Gradual Civilization of Indian Tribes in this Province, and to Amend the Laws Relating to Indians (commonly known as the Gradual Civilization Act) was a bill passed by the 5th Parliament of the Province of Canada in 1857.

The treaty built on the "Act for the Protection of the Indians in Upper Canada" passed in 1839, but required the "enfranchisement" of any recognized male Indian over the age of 21 "able to speak, read and write either English or the French language readily and well, and is sufficiently advanced in the elementary branches of education and is of good moral character and free from debt."[1] An "enfranchised" Indian would no longer retain the "legal rights and habilities of Indians" and would "no longer be deemed an Indian" but a regular British subject.[1] Such enfranchisement was mandatory, but any male Indian could be voluntarily enfranchised despite an inability to read or write, or a lack of school education, so long as he spoke English or French, and was found to be "of sober and industrious habits, free from debt and sufficiently intelligent to be capable of managing his own affairs."[1] Voluntary enfranchisement, however, required a three year probation term before it would come into legal effect.

Enfranchisement required that Indians choose a last name (to be approved by appointed commissioners) by which they would become legally known. The wife and descendants of an enfranchised Indian would also be enfranchised, and would no longer be considered members of the former tribe, unless they were to regain Indian status through another marriage.

Well it has been gone over and over the notion of driver's licenses and SSNs being regarded as prima facie evidence of being a franchisee. The dead and the living being unalike; Roman Maxim: "dissimilar things ought not be joined". The "last name" is joined with "true name" to make a totally different name--familiar but not the same.

Regarding those kinds of birth certificates, is the baby ever named or is only the personae/vessel/entity that is regarded to contain the baby named? No name, no pneuma (breath).

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Corporations are likewise spiritual or temporal: spiritual, of bishops, deans, archdeacons, parsons, vicars, &c.; temporal, of majors, commonalty, bailiff) and burgesses, &c. Some are of a mixed nature, composed of spiritual and temporal persons, such as leads of colleges and hospitals, &c.

Lay corporations are of two sorts, civil -and eleemosynary. The civil are erected for a variety of purposes; as the king, to prevent an interregnum or Vacancy of the throne; a mayor and commonalty, bailiff and burgesses, and the like, for the advancement and regulation of manufactures and commerce. The eleemosynary sort are such as are constituted for the perpetual distribution of free alms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alms), or bounty of the founder to them, of such persons as he has directed; as all hospitals, colleges, &c.

A corporation may he created by the common law, by the king's charter, by act of parliament, and by prescription. When a corporation is created, a name must be given to it; and by that name alone it must sue and be sued, and do all legal acts, for the name is the very being of its constitution; and though it is the will of the king that erects the corporation, yet the name is the Knot of its combination, without which it could not perform its corporate functions. Source: The Complete English Lawyer: Or, Everyman His Own Lawyer (1823).

Michael Joseph

04-12-16, 12:18 AM

Once when a woman married, she would cease to be a member of one household and become a member of another. Also, where applicable, women married and would take on their husband's "last name". A woman keeping her name might be letting you know that she is not committed as you might hope.

She takes the SEAL of her Husband.

xparte

04-12-16, 01:43 AM

Manufactured statement or birthed held in a separated title for ships manifesto hospital ships the living and the dead certificate .Manufacturing or creation forensic identification .A child Being a body of water Admiralty seems to be lost at sea .Cargo holds salvage titles. Married at sea burial at sea.physical evidence birth certificate death certificate .Business at sea Baptism and Basilica joining the court.

Michael Joseph

04-12-16, 03:47 AM

She takes the SEAL of her Husband.

Question: In reference to the "surrendering" of a BC upon those who gave its issue....

Those who surrender the BC are Stateless. For there is no Person to establish an Estate [Herediment]. At the Common Law what happened to Joseph, who was found to be Stateless? Was he not thrown into a pit and when the merchants came they seized him [TAKEN] and sold him into bondage in Egypt?

2Ti_2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Rev_7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

Rev_9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

To TAKE implies that all rights, titles and interests have been abandoned thusly the thing may be taken. The Use Rights in the Thing are then possessed. Since you are talking about a BC, then it is in your cognizance of a State and its Craft. Thusly in Statecraft there is a Head and a Body. And these two become One = nation state. And the One Body has a GREAT SEAL which identifies membership. Whose Great Seal is upon the top of that BC? Of course it is the name of the State whereupon the BC reflects an equity RESIDENT under and within the ARK of STATE which is a Ship upon the High Seas.

In the system of Estates, noone is Stateless. Even Jesus said "My Kingdom"....

Deu_32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?

Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Understanding and Wisdom must be married before Will can be birthed. [the Son]. Those whose names are not written in the Book of Life receive not Salvation. Thusly there is a value in being a member of Society. But in the Realm of Ceasar there are nation-states. And in the Inner Realm there are nation-states. For the Lower Mind has a king and thoughts/desires which serve him [Herod]. And such is the Higher Mind [Abraham] and even still the Divine Mind [Jesus] - as one goes inward the Carnal dies and Greed and Fear are replaced with Love and Faith.

There must of course be a great battle in the Valley of the Kings. And many peoples will die [thoughts and desires]. Thusly give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's for Jesus made it plain to Pilate - saying that Pilate would not undertake in his office unless OUR Father allowed. It is only the "Collective Judas" which seeks to force the Kingdom of God into this Earth. As Darth Vader would say IMPRESSIVE - to force into military service. Jesus said "My Kingdom is NOT of this World."

Of course it is the prerogative of the Great King of whom shall receive the Royal Garments and when. Thusly:

Gal 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

Gal 4:2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Gal 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

Since debt is incurred by breaking the Law those who are UNDER THE LAW are debtors - slaves. Sin= Debt=Transgression of the Law. How to repay the debt? The Life is in the Blood. Thusly in Labor is the debt offset. Thusly Notes or Book Entries are just stores of Potential Energy. We have a choice - To Redeem our Substance or to Endorse a Third Party - to take the fruit to Adam. If in the latter, then someone else [without the Body] now has an interest in the thing.

How many lovers will Eve engage? Shouldn't she be true to her Husband? Some take a Seal in their hand [labor] and then later in their forehead [trust] rationalization of their deeds - but true there exists a massive mind control effort to seduce Eve with hypnosis and other such techniques.

Of course Eve is emotion [citizenship, laity] and Adam [Mind, Leadership] but when these two become One - He called their name Adam. Mr. and Mrs. SURNAME. A Family in the Ark.

Thusly the Woman is SEALED by her Husband.

I had a friend years ago who took a trip south of the border with the express purpose of surrendering the BC, SSN, etc. When the Embassy officer asked for what purpose my friend replied I do not wish to be a citizen of the State of North Carolina. The response was very simple, "Stop doing the deeds that make you a citizen." Nevertheless, if you are the Wife, then be the Wife - and you are called to Lead - then Lead. Each according to his calling.

Thusly we see in the 55 they issued forth a DECLARATION OF TRUST AND TRUST AGREEMENT candidly upon the Minds of the World. Thusly these 55 with Understanding exercised their Will. And thus established a Testament. For if you look carefully you will see that the Preamble is a Testamentary Trust. And we know that a Testament is of no force whilst the Testator remains alive - because it is only in Potential Effect. This Potential is due to the fact that the Grantor may revoke the Grant at anytime during his/her life. But the Trust becomes Irrevocable at death - and thus men begin to Occupy as Executors and Trustees upon the Estate.

Jesus disciplined his disciples [Natural to Spiritual] - Moon - Faith
Then Jesus Send his Apostles to the World [Spiritual to Celestial] - Sun - Love

Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

The first is the Spiritual Estate - the latter the Celestial Estate. Generations or Nativities - the same. Notice God [Elohim] created the Heavens and the earth - Genesis 1:1 - but Lord God [YHVH Elohim] made the earth and the heavens!

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The foregoing is an image of One Being - the Inner Kingdom of God - See Luke 17:21. We have 12 Cranial Nerves. We have 31 pairs of nerves which are attached to the Central Nervous System - and these 31 kings must be Disciplined!

Jos 12:7 And these are the kings of the country which Joshua and the children of Israel smote on this side Jordan on the west, from Baalgad in the valley of Lebanon even unto the mount Halak, that goeth up to Seir; which Joshua gave unto the tribes of Israel for a possession according to their divisions;

Jos 12:9 The king of Jericho, one; the king of Ai, which is beside Bethel, one;

Jos 12:24 The king of Tirzah, one: all the kings thirty and one.

If one establishes a new Estate by Declaration of Trust - Under the Providence of God - then the Heads of State transfer equitable interests from one State to another and said Equity is transferred into a Personage Ens Legis - for said Persons are born UNDER THE LAW.... Just as the good book says! And said Person must be written upon a Roll and thusly reflected in a Registry and a Certificate evidencing the book entry of Equities in the new Kingdom is issued upon the man or woman occupying in said Legal Vessel so that Justice and Equity may be done and the Kingdom may be righteous.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Honor thy Father and thy Mother - in decent respect to our Nativity.

Be Blessed,
MJ

David Merrill

04-12-16, 09:20 AM

Does oracular authority play a vital role in modern secular society?

Fast forward 200 years or so to Ezra the scribe, who returned to Jerusalem from Babylonia in the middle of the fifth century C.E. A functionary of the Persians, who had recently conquered Babylonia, he arrived in Jerusalem armed with a copy of something resembling part of our Torah (scholars debate exactly what) and attempted to use its authority to dissolve the intermarriages he opposed. The Book of Ezra makes clear that Ezra's efforts went nowhere.

Christ got the librarians job no more written words a message on just started with a dozen . his peers perhaps supreme being or message.mice and men take Christ of THAT Commercial Cross he was taken down who put him back up on it and why.

Thank you for that reminder.

This is of course a massive name-changing operation. "GO OUT AMONG EACH OTHER AND EVEN WHEN OUT IN THE NATIONS, LEARN."

walter

04-12-16, 05:13 PM

Question: In reference to the "surrendering" of a BC upon those who gave its issue....

Those who surrender the BC are Stateless. For there is no Person to establish an Estate [Herediment].

Don't you mean the COLB?
That's the original jurisdiction before traversing to a Federal Citizen BC.

There are forms that cancel BC.
There are no forms that cancel the COLB.
The State has the obligation to make sure the people are not Stateless by International Law.
That is the mandate of recording the "Birth event".
It can not be cancelled unless you do something stupid like "Joneh Bey" and create a duplicate original though authentication and become a joint holder of a split title document making it weaker in the process.

xparte

04-12-16, 08:48 PM

do we argument the principality , any agreement is on private terms.love thy neighbor is only agreement how its never flesh and blood we must attest.Titles like Judge Oath Principle what is a a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.
"the basic principles of the licensed churched Christianity is corrupt and materialistic. Basilica is a court a Anglican church is set up like a courtroom even the robes are the same.
synonyms: truth, proposition, concept, idea, theory, assumption, fundamental, essential, ground rule
elementary principles elements of a case. Is earth the principle kingdom its just flesh and blood or is it evil just a debt we need the principle paid down put down move along as some hidden truth was holding us back.Can we go ahead on spiritual terms or agreements that are primarily hidden.What,s delivered is commercial.

xparte

04-12-16, 09:03 PM

For our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces ...controlling a person fine nothing but copyright pagan paper notice the system is far from spiritual who killed Christ the paperwork that kills our soul haven't been spirit stiffed yet belly full of prin·ci·pal·i·ty traditional Christian angelology) the fifth highest order of the ninefold celestial hierarchy.a TEMPLE universe celestial hierarchy on papal paper.the bull

Michael Joseph

04-12-16, 09:14 PM

Don't you mean the COLB?
That's the original jurisdiction before traversing to a Federal Citizen BC.

There are forms that cancel BC.
There are no forms that cancel the COLB.
The State has the obligation to make sure the people are not Stateless by International Law.
That is the mandate of recording the "Birth event".
It can not be cancelled unless you do something stupid like "Joneh Bey" and create a duplicate original though authentication and become a joint holder of a split title document making it weaker in the process.

Thank you for your comments. I think the COLB is not an official Government Issued record. Therefore the COLB is unofficial and is usually the issue of a Hospital as legally authorized agent. The COLB is testimony evidenced later on a Manor Roll called Vital Statistics and this Manor Roll is the TRUE RECORD evidenced by witnesses [usually mom and dad - Doctor or Midwife]. A EXTRACT of the Manor Roll is issued called a Birth Certificate which evidences the Equity in the Ark of State.

A COLB is therefore Testimony issued by the hand and witness of two or more. How can that be cancelled unless there was fraud in the testimony which is usually from mom or dad and state authorized agent?

Since it is necessary to discipline the affairs of one's house, a responsible and righteous leader will keep a book of all equities in his house so that fairness and justice and equity may be done. Thusly the Head of House keeps a Roll [Registry] and everything is named so that interests may be disposed of in a righteous manner.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

We thusly inherit in a name. For there must be order in a man's house.

David Merrill

04-12-16, 11:25 PM

Thank you for refreshing "manorial law" on my mind:

In 1990, after a period in private practice, Ms. Lynch joined the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York, located in Brooklyn, New York—the city she considers her adopted home (http://imageshack.com/a/img538/7945/7G8WH9.jpg)

Click on Quotation - the VAN PELT MILESTONE in the Brooklyn Historical Society, next to George WASHINGTON's rifle.

About the US Attorney General. (https://www.justice.gov/ag/meet-attorney-general)

allodial

04-12-16, 11:32 PM

Stateless.

Stateless is a term used by UN members and members to a treaty to connote those who are not nationals of any member of the UN or of the treaty forum, it does not mean that they do not have nationality at all. If ten members to a treaty existed at point A in time and one of the members ceased to exist for whatever reason at point B in time, within the treaty forum mental paradigm, the citizens of the no-longer-existing State might be 'stateless'. Someone who is a citizen of a non-U.N. member is 'Stateless' in the sense of not being a citizen of any U.N. member state. "Stateless" does not necessarily connote total lack of citizenship.

David Merrill

04-12-16, 11:56 PM

Michael Joseph

04-13-16, 01:30 AM

Stateless is a term used by UN members and members to a treaty to connote those who are not nationals of any member of the UN or of the treaty forum, it does not mean that they do not have nationality at all. If ten members to a treaty existed at point A in time and one of the members ceased to exist for whatever reason at point B in time, within the treaty forum mental paradigm, the citizens of the no-longer-existing State might be 'stateless'. Someone who is a citizen of a non-U.N. member is 'Stateless' in the sense of not being a citizen of any U.N. member state. "Stateless" does not necessarily connote total lack of citizenship.

Of course, the terms are subject to the Contract establishing the Trust Agreement called UN which is just an IGO. Thusly in regard to my trust agreement(s) as Settlor I make sure to manifest the meaning of exact terms specific to said agreement. Nevertheless folks are usually speaking from the view point of Canada or the United States of America. And these are claims whereupon dominion is exercised. Estates are formed and property rights and interests are disposed.

Joseph was clearly "presumed" Stateless and since Joseph kept his mouth shut, he was sold. To your point, see the law of marriages found in Deuteronomy 24. And further expanded upon in Ezekiel 44:22.

Eze 44:25 And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Eze 44:28 And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.

Who will help the Widow and the Orphan? Who has ears to hear to even understand?

For many is the congregation being led by a spiritually dead leadership. Who will marry this Widowed Woman? In State or Church she requires a husband to form the Body.

Nevertheless the program here is concerning BC - question is asked and answered. If mom and dad were debt slaves are the children as well? You tell me? Can the children come to life and exercise their minds and thusly their will? For I see a barren land - very dry indeed.

Eze 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.

Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

Let the Four Rivers flow and the Four Winds blow such that Understanding [Father] and Wisdom [Mother] may be married and the Will [the Son] may finally be expressed. Would to God sayeth Moses [he who is drawn from the waters - TRUTH] that all would prophesy.

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

James_1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Who is he who is set apart that he may take a wife? And seeing that many have rejected the Law of God - they shall be no Priest unto God. Thusly we find many dead priests married to wives who sup at the trough of "hog slop".

If one is a citizen, then she is to submit to her Husband, but if her Husband be dead, or if he is caught in Adultery/Fornication, then she is free to remarry [re-Contract]. She is released. But if she willingly stay, then she stays married to a dead man [leadership]. I speak NOT to flesh and blood.

If she has causes which would impel her to remarry, then it is a decent respect upon the opinions of mankind that she voice her causes openly to a candid world and she should move on - shake the dust off of her feet and move on. But if she would stay, then she stays for good. It is her choice - just as if the shoe is on the other foot it is his choice.

Spare not the hand of a woman who meddles in the affairs of two Husbandman - cut off her hand and have no pity!

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Comment: A child is a deed performed. A child is a church born out of a parent church. If one has no Understanding and no Wisdom, then there is no real Will for one just does the Will of another - and thusly one's children are desolate. For many are the children of the desolate woman.

Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

With five previous husbands the Samaritan woman stands still looking for water [truth] at the well. Even now, she hopes and trusts that her certificates have value - for surely her husband loves her? Seems her husband has a STD and she cries in her Lamentations.

Lam 1:1 How doth the city sit solitary, that was full of people! how is she become as a widow! she that was great among the nations, and princess among the provinces, how is she become tributary!

Lam 1:2 She weepeth sore in the night, and her tears are on her cheeks: among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her: all her friends have dealt treacherously with her, they are become her enemies.

Eze 23:33 Thou shalt be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, with the cup of astonishment and desolation, with the cup of thy sister Samaria.

Who will marry this Harlot? Will she stand a Widow forever?

Hos 1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.

Hos 2:1 Say ye unto your brethren, Ammi; and to your sisters, Ruhamah.

Hos 2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;

Hos 2:13 And I will visit upon her the days of Baalim, wherein she burned incense to them, and she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and she went after her lovers, and forgat me, saith the LORD.

Hos 2:14 Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.

Hos 2:15 And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.

Hos 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

Hos 2:17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

Who is the King of Righteousness who would defile Himself to take this Adulterous Woman to wife? Is it you?

Eze 44:25 And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Eze 44:26 And after he is cleansed, they shall reckon unto him seven days.

Melchi- King
Zadok - Righteous Priest.

After the ORDER of Melchizedok - a many membered body in Righteousness. For He called them TREES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Isa_61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

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continued....

Michael Joseph

04-13-16, 01:30 AM

continuing....

What will you do with this BC? Does it not have value? Since you did not issue it, clearly it did not come to be under your Will. That would make you a Wife. And what of this Wife, is she faithful or rebellious? And what of this Husband is he loving and righteous? Is the whole body sick even from the head to the foot?

Isa 1:6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.

Isa 1:7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

Comment: And still she weeps - hoping to be loved by those who hate her. Is there any hope? Where is a Moses to lead his people. Can you find him in the mirror? Or are your thoughts/desires as wild asses [Ishmael]?

If my thought dreams could be seen,
they'd probably put my head in a guillotine....."Bob Dylan"

Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Comment: Would you adopt a Widow's Son?

1Ki 17:10 So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.

1Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

1Ki 17:18 And she said unto Elijah, What have I to do with thee, O thou man of God? art thou come unto me to call my sin to remembrance, and to slay my son?

1Ki 17:19 And he said unto her, Give me thy son. And he took him out of her bosom, and carried him up into a loft, where he abode, and laid him upon his own bed.

1Ki 17:20 And he cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, hast thou also brought evil upon the widow with whom I sojourn, by slaying her son?

1Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.

1Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

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Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

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How many States and Churches have lost their way? Who will help the Widow's Children? Nevertheless Sarah called Abraham my Lord. A faithful wife - and a loving husband. A perfect Image of State [Church].

Shalom,
MJ

David Merrill

04-13-16, 04:43 AM

Comment: Would you adopt a Widow's Son?

Bastardized by the absence of the Father.

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Michael Joseph

04-13-16, 05:09 AM

Bastardized by the absence of the Father.

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Founding Father = Male - Mind
Founding Mother = Female - Ecclesiastical
Child = State / Church

State is the place of my Nativity - thusly when I come of age and according to my Father I will leave my Father and Mother [House] and Take a Wife of my Own - and we two shall become One. For my Mind is Aware and Awake alive by the Grace of God in Christ thusly I have Will and can Covenant with God. For give the Zadok no inheritance - for I AM their inheritance. Amen!

Son 5:1 I am come into my garden, my sister, my spouse: I have gathered my myrrh with my spice; I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly, O beloved.

Son 5:2 I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night.

Son 5:3 I have put off my coat; how shall I put it on? I have washed my feet; how shall I defile them?

Eze 44:25 And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Eze 44:28 And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.

Who will help the Widow and the Orphan? Who has ears to hear to even understand?

For many is the congregation being led by a spiritually dead leadership. Who will marry this Widowed Woman? In State or Church she requires a husband to form the Body. No woman ever gave birth absent a man [mind].

John13:8 Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.

John 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

If you have ears to understand, will you help the Widow and the Orphan? For She who is Married births the Elect Children.

Peace and Blessings,
MJ