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loveunderlaw
05-09-15, 02:46 AM
We need more people like Julie, to help open the minds of those that are afraid to live & breathe all on their own like our Founders did. So many are actually afraid to be on their own these days. It's just sad for them :(

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shikamaru
05-09-15, 12:47 PM
Liberty sounds great, but in practice doesn't happen.

Liberty have the seeds of its own subversion built within it. That seed of subversion is freedom of association.
Associations will be formed. Those associations will eventually resort to force and coercion to satisfy its aims.
Counter associations will form in response. War of factions marches onward into destruction and entropy.

BLBereans
05-09-15, 01:51 PM
liberty (n.) Look up liberty at Dictionary.comlate 14c., "free choice, freedom to do as one chooses," from Old French liberté "freedom, liberty, free will" (14c.), from Latin libertatem (nominative libertas) "freedom, condition of a free man; absence of restraint; permission," from liber "free" (see liberal)

source (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=liberty)

Liberty is what God gave us, in addition to dominion and the authority to subdue His created earth. What man chooses to do with said liberty begets the effects of such choices. Liberty, in and of itself, is a righteous concept because God wants us all to be free and free to choose. The choices made bear fruit and one is known by one's fruit.

Not all associations will eventually resort to force and coercion, only those associations which allow greed, dishonor and other evils to thwart the association.

By man's own doing, the fullness and richness of our God-given liberty is discarded and manipulated; the result being people perish for lack of knowledge.

Liberty is what we were made to have; it is the evilness of man that has subverted it, mostly from ourselves.

God is "pro-choice"; the only difference is that He spells out the consequences of certain choices, as any Good Father would.

shikamaru
05-09-15, 02:00 PM
liberty (n.) Look up liberty at Dictionary.comlate 14c., "free choice, freedom to do as one chooses," from Old French liberté "freedom, liberty, free will" (14c.), from Latin libertatem (nominative libertas) "freedom, condition of a free man; absence of restraint; permission," from liber "free" (see liberal)

source (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=liberty)

Liberty is what God gave us, in addition to dominion and the authority to subdue His created earth. What man chooses to do with said liberty begets the effects of such choices. Liberty, in and of itself, is a righteous concept because God wants us all to be free and free to choose. The choices made bear fruit and one is known by one's fruit.

Not all associations will eventually resort to force and coercion, only those associations which allow greed, dishonor and other evils to thwart the association.

By man's own doing, the fullness and richness of our God-given liberty is discarded and manipulated; the result being people perish for lack of knowledge.

Liberty is what we were made to have; it is the evilness of man that has subverted it, mostly from ourselves.

God is "pro-choice"; the only difference is that He spells out the consequences of certain choices, as any Good Father would.

Liberty isn't all its cracked up to be.
There are other definitions of liberty such as that permitted by authority or grant.
A seaman on shore leave has liberty .... within the sphere of permission from command.

Just about all associations resort to force and coercion when sufficient enough power is amassed i.e. governments, militarizes, corporations (such as the British East India Corporation), and churches (execution of "heretics", indulgences, slavery, inquisitions, private wars between denominations).

allodial
05-09-15, 04:07 PM
Liberty sounds great, but in practice doesn't happen.

Liberty have the seeds of its own subversion built within it. That seed of subversion is freedom of association.
Associations will be formed. Those associations will eventually resort to force and coercion to satisfy its aims.
Counter associations will form in response. War of factions marches onward into destruction and entropy.

Something to do with.. egregores (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1201-Egregores)?

In Jubilee
05-09-15, 04:49 PM
I just read "Whatever Happened to Justice? (http://www.amazon.com/Whatever-Happened-Justice-Uncle-Eric/dp/0942617460/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1431187950&sr=8-4&keywords=Richard+J+Maybury)" by Richard J Maybury (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Richard+J+Maybury). On page 76, he has the following definition of Liberty that I really like, attributed to Thomas Jefferson:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within limits of the law" because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson.

This book and some others by the author should be required reading in high schools.

It is true that associations will always form and some lust in desire for power to control others and devise ways to encroach, even stealthily, on the natural rights of others. However, all, especially the liberty-minded, have to be vigilant. The lack of vigilance, the dependence on governments, along with the evil stratagems of the previously mentioned associations got us where we are.

shikamaru
05-09-15, 05:27 PM
I just read "Whatever Happened to Justice? (http://www.amazon.com/Whatever-Happened-Justice-Uncle-Eric/dp/0942617460/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1431187950&sr=8-4&keywords=Richard+J+Maybury)" by Richard J Maybury (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Richard+J+Maybury). On page 76, he has the following definition of Liberty that I really like, attributed to Thomas Jefferson:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within limits of the law" because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson.

This book and some others by the author should be required reading in high schools.

It is true that associations will always form and some lust in desire for power to control others and devise ways to encroach, even stealthily, on the natural rights of others. However, all, especially the liberty-minded, have to be vigilant. The lack of vigilance, the dependence on governments, along with the evil stratagems of the previously mentioned associations got us where we are.

THIS.

Well said.

shikamaru
05-09-15, 05:29 PM
Something to do with.. egregores (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1201-Egregores)?

Now this feeds (no pun intended) into a post I made concerning records and breathing life energy into them by claim, registration, or proclamation.

allodial
05-09-15, 10:14 PM
Now this feeds (no pun intended) into a post I made concerning records and breathing life energy into them by claim, registration, or proclamation.

See also doppelgänger (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger)? One of the first popular 3d virtual worlds/chats was created by a company called "Doppleganger, Inc" (formerly "Evil Twin Studios"... ExitReality come 2006). Throughout the game they are said to have references to "evil twins". You think maybe they knew something about something? v-side 6 sides...cube...matrix?