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allodial
07-28-15, 11:03 PM
This is posted in view of the fact that so many these days are spreading the idea of the men or women mentioned in the Bible being imaginary and only symbolic. Even non-religious folks have heard the story of Joseph (ala book of Genesis).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5c/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat.jpg/215px-Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat)

I started on this kind of research back long, long ago for reasons not here disclosed. However, my original papers and writings were 'conveniently' stolen and/or destroyed. The good news is, others have been at work. Anyways, meet Imhotep which much evidences to be none other than Joseph (son of Israel fka Jacob). Remember Joseph was sold into slavery, his name Joseph would not necessarily 'carried through' the entire process. Furthermore, if he was sold into slavery the story of his parentage might have been altered as well especially if someone took it upon themselves to effectively adopt him and assimilate him into their society.


And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck;

43 And he made him to ride in the second chariot which he had; and they cried before him, Bow the knee: and he made him ruler over all the land of Egypt.

44 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh, and without thee shall no man lift up his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.

45 And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt.

46 And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. Genesis 41:42-46

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16 Moreover he called for a famine upon the land: he brake the whole staff of bread.

17 He sent a man before them, even Joseph, who was sold for a servant:

18 Whose feet they hurt with fetters: he was laid in iron:

19 Until the time that his word came: the word of the Lord tried him.

20 The king sent and loosed him; even the ruler of the people, and let him go free.

21 He made him lord of his house, and ruler of all his substance:

22 To bind his princes at his pleasure; and teach his senators wisdom. Psalms 105:16-22

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There are those who suggest one Yuya of 18th Egyptian Dynasty to have been Joseph and for somewhat plausible reasons but Imhotep matches quite succintly with the Genesis story. Among those who suggest Yuya to be Joseph seem to have a vendetta for shredding Bible historicity. Also, there seems to be a lot of cover-up and intentional misinformation in the field of 'Egyptology'. And there AFAIK has appeared to be consensus that the dating is generally off.


And Moses took the bones of Joseph with him: for he had straitly sworn the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you; and ye shall carry up my bones away hence with you. 20 And they took their journey from Succoth, and encamped in Etham, in the edge of the wilderness. Exodus 3:19-20

Another thing, if you study Genesis there is mention of how Joseph requests that his bones be buried elsewhere. To this day, Egyptologists are puzzled as to where Imhotep is buried. The coffin where Imhotep's remains are supposed to be (located at Sakkara (aka Succoth?) is EMPTY (http://www.odysseyadventures.ca/articles/saqqara/saqqara_text.htm).

xparte
07-29-15, 01:21 AM
The Under King Djoser, the first king of the Third Dynasty of the Old Kingdom, the royal capital of Egypt was moved to Memphis, where Djoser established his court. A new era of building was initiated at Saqqara under his reign. King Djoser's architect, Imhotep is credited with the development of building with stone and with the conception of the new architectural form - the Step Pyramid. The Old Kingdom is perhaps best known for the large number of pyramids constructed at this time as pharaonic burial places. For this reason, the Old Kingdom is frequently referred to as the Age of the Pyramids.During the Old Kingdom, the king of Egypt (not called the Pharaoh until the New Kingdom) became a living god, who ruled absolutely and could demand the services and wealth of his subjects. The numerous references to the Old Kingdom kings as pharaohs in this article stems from the ubiquitous use of the term "pharaoh" to describe any and all Ancient Egyptian Kings. This living God worship has encourage Greek and Roman conquest and plenty at pagan yet competitive knowledge of the old kings were not Gods a great account was left out of the old testament to kings did Moses long for the old kings or his true king no other Gods means the place called earth was crawling with knowledge .Try and relate to one God as related to so many unrelated Gods needs no further proof than slavery.

allodial
07-29-15, 01:53 AM
Maintenance of Conquest By Syncretism (Promotion of Religious Harlotry)
It was a tactic of the Babylonians, Romans and/or Assyrians to upon conquest to absorb the religion of the conquered--that way things didn't seem to change and the conqueror was seen to control/own the 'gods' of the conquested. Could the Romans believed that by killing Jesus or the like they would own the God of Israel? Perhaps they felt comfortable taking liberties with interpretations and revisions of texts --until they started realizing they were dealing with something over their heads. Interestingly enough, Simon Magus thought he could buy the Power. Maybe the same Romans that deified him figured they could absorb or annex God or the Power of God? A student at a major midwestern Roman Catholic school told her parents that they were taught the Roman Pope to be higher than God (of the bible)--perhaps that somehow relates to the foregoing?

Re: Pyramids at Sakkara/Succoth
The pyramids at Sakkara appear to be purposed for storage of grain as emergency provision during a long-term famine. That might be why there are so many.

Egypt, Ethiopia and India
Genesis IMHO tends to point toward Egypt having been on the right path at some point until eventually came into play and idol worship--the Moses' conflict with the Egyptians and with the Pharaoh always seemed to have an underlying doctrinal conflict going on in the background and in the foreground. Maybe something like the new doctrines in the royal courts started getting them to err by thinking of themselves as the God and to be All In All rather than a god?

Kings were given their 'franchise' for a purpose. The consequences of getting too big for their britches is a theme that seems to run through the entire Bible. Perhaps the Egyptian magicians thought their magic was evidence of something it wasn't.

Also, I wouldn't be so quick to come to any conclusion of someone having been enslaved necessarily being partisan with respect to Egyptian politics. Clearly Joseph's religious beliefs played a major role in his experience and to the extent he was able to help many.


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That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Matt. 5:45

Even if Joseph may have had an aversion to one or more aspects of Egyptian society, perhaps he remembered that the sun rises on the evil and on the good and that rain is sent on both the just and the unjust. On that note, I'm not convinced of Sun worship being a theme of the Bible. The Sun and the stars and such can be studied as a model for the spiritual in that the physical Sun helps provide light and such on the physical side and thusly consideration of such might give rise to the notion that on the spiritual and mental levels there is a correspondent light of truth or wisdom.

Believers spread out and interspersed even among believers in darkened societies might be like stars keeping the darkness from being utterly dark. There are true believers in places that are there for the reason that God wants them to be there to be the light and to make the positive difference. Joseph being sold into slavery worked together for his good and for the good of others.

Related:

Moses Was Not A Magician (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1057-Moses-Was-Not-A-Magician)

allodial
11-21-15, 09:53 AM
After prayer before bed and after reading the Book of Jubilees, I got his revelation and vision that led me to further proof which I looked up to see that Imhotep is also spelled Inhotep and I eventually figure out why. Its right in the Bible and in the Book of Jubilees.


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The transliteration from the Ethiopic text is more lucid as to the name. From the Book of Jubilees.

Seph + Intp/Imtp/[Imntp--see below] + anz. It came to me that there has been intentional misdirection. Inhotep = Imhotep. Furthermore, there was the name Amunhotep [Inhotep/Imhotep?] (who was associated with Djoser ~2670 B.C. although there are alternative timelines which place Abraham at around 2000 BC--those histories may or may not omit some 200 years from history) which could possibly at some stretch be rendered as as Imhotep..but if you look carefully nhtp is in there. Similarly consider how Ramadan ~= Remphan with scribal error.


And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt

Zaphnathpaaneah as a transliteration obscures unless you write it Zephnetepaaneah or Zephmnetepaaneah. Its easy to get the "Zaph" as being some way of saying Joseph ("Izaph" or "Ysph").

In any case, the Genesis and Exodus nails it with regards to the location (Sakkara/Succoth), the name given to him [i]sph ntp (inotep) is staring us right in the face, the archaeological record also shows the body of Inotep/Imhotep missing.

Consider that the Persians claimed Persia was founded by (an) "Abraham", yet biblical Abraham lived thousands of years before Persia was founded. The Edomites were known to steal or borrow the identities of others; the Persians and Medians are said to also be offshoot of Esau-/Edom-ite systems. How can biblical Abraham have founded Persia if he lived thousands of years before? Interestingly, its said that Mohammeds father was actually named Abraham. So its not necessarily a lie to say "I'm a descendent of Abraham" if your dad or grandad was Abraham Lincoln, right? The record shows that the Persians were masters at syncretism (religion and history blending and co-opting) as a ruling method. This may be why the deception exists alleging Moses to have gleaned the ten commandments from Babylon even though Moses was clearly writing using pre-Babylon Egyptian words! There is also evidence that the Persians and Medians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_%28region%29) may have been offspring of Essau/Edom.

The Babylonians and Persian method of claiming to be the origin of something might be what gets in the way of the truth of history. They spin a yarn for population control. If Abraham was around over 1,000 years before Persia, how could Abraham have founded Persia unless of course someone other Abraham was on the 'founder's committee' for Persia. Of course, even Esau could trace lineage back to biblical Abraham, no?

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Consider: Amunhotep ~= Imnohtep {m and n joined to conceal level I} ~= Imhotep {n dropped which conceals level II}. Why are they going through so much effort to hide the truth? Is it because one truth might reveal someone as a liar? Genesis makes it clear that Joseph effectively ran Egypt. SO HOW ON PLANET EARTH IS HE GOING TO EASILY DISAPPEAR INTO HISTORY AS INSIGNIFICANT?

Is it that Babylon/Persia/Edom was hoping everyone would believe the yarn of Moses and the Egyptians to have originated in Babylon or to have borrowed from Babylon--of Babylon having come before Egypt which is clearly a false yarn.

Related:
Were Joseph and Imhotep of Egypt The Same Man?
(http://www.s8int.com/joseph.html)