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allodial
11-12-15, 01:05 AM
Jonathan Cahn ADMITS His Books And His Jewish Calendar Forces Messianic Believers To Deny Jesus Was The Messiah
By Walid Shoebat

For all Christians, Jesus being Messiah, is the central key issue for the faith. This is also true for the Hebrew Roots Movement who use The Hebrew Calendar as the central foundation for setting prophetic Jubilee and Sabbatical years (Shemitah). This became a major problem when Messianic Rabbi, Jonathan Cahn was confronted on one TV program, when one of his major promoters discovered that his date-setting predictions (of supposed coming calamities on America) ended up denying Jesus as the Messiah had him admit he based his book using calculations based on his own privately concocted new Hebrew Calendar, which never even existed.

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THE MILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM
We will discuss Cahn’s confession (more on that stunning story, see Jonathan Cahn’s Confession below) but we first need to set the stage. To these movements, the Hebrew calendar, Hebrew language, Hebrew dress code, keeping Kosher … are the modus operandi for observing ancient festivities, especially when they declare “Jubilee years,” or “Sabbath years” (Shemetah).

But there is a major problem: using the current Hebrew Calendar completely makes null-and-void that Jesus was The Messiah, while insisting on the Hebrew Bible (done to avoid using Greek also undermines Jesus’s Messiahship. This Biblical Hebrew Calendar, several Messianic movements claims to being the “Creator’s calendar” that “provides accurate setting for Jubilee and Sabbatical years” is incorrect. There are endless theories and new concoctions on when these dates are to be set.

First of all, no one can pin-point when creation all started; the calendar which was created by rabbis who denied Jesus as the Messiah, is nowhere found in the Bible and for anyone who claims the faith of Messianic Judaism, to insist on the calendar’s accuracy would make Daniel 9's Seventy Weeks un-qualify Jesus as Messiah. Using the best historians pointing first to the narrative works of the Greek historians of the Persian period, men like Herodotus and Thucydides who agree that the Persian rule spanned the years 539 to 332 B.C. and included the reign of ten kings, not four as the Rabbis had thought. Mitchell First states that it is unlikely that the Jewish sages in the 2nd Century had access to these histories, but even if they did, they probably held them in contempt just as many hold in contempt experts today because of their religious or denominational bent.

This presents a mega-problem with eternal consequences. While some object “why should that matter so long I believe in Jesus?”

Well, just read on.

As you will see demonstrated here, unless these deny that Jesus was the Messiah, it is impossible to follow the Hebrew Calendar. Any historian worth his salt can tell you that when the Jews calculated the Hebrew Calendar, they began by studying the history of the Babylonian Empire when it was overthrown by the Medo-Persian Empire (539 B.C.), and it is the length of the Persian period that is in dispute which threw off the date. The rabbinical chronology says it lasted 52 years (with 34 years of domination over Israel). The accepted chronology of historical experts says it lasted 207 years.

So which is right? The answer is: history and not the rabbis who knew limited history.

The Jewish History In Conflict by Mitchell First, an Orthodox Jew himself is amongst several scholars who proved that one major goal of using the Hebrew Calendar is to displace Jesus as Messiah.

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The rabbinical error occurred because of the misinterpretation of Daniel 11:2 which mentions only four Persian kings. This passage, as it turns out, was never meant to be an enumeration of all the Persian kings but rather a reference to the mightiest whose reigns were of the greatest consequence to the Jewish believers.

(source/more (http://shoebat.com/2015/09/12/bombshell-jonathan-cahn-admits-his-books-and-his-the-jewish-calendar-forces-messianic-believers-to-deny-jesus-was-the-messiah/))

Related:

Is The Real Jewish Year 5765 – Or 5931? (http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/is-the-real-jewish-year-5765-or-5931/2005/01/19/0/?print)
Missing Years (Jewish Calendar) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_years_%28Jewish_calendar%29)
The Time of Messiah's Coming (https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/eastman_mark/messiah/sfm_06.cfm) (shows that Jesus came exactly on schedule)
THE MYSTERY OF THE SHEMITAH: Is it real? (http://www.biblicalintegrity.org/2014/09/19/mystery-of-the-shemitah/)

xparte
11-12-15, 02:54 AM
Its back to a covenant that a people would know a true God . The law was written on Mans heart so all would know him The rest fell to the priests as they alone went into the ho·ly of ho·lies this was exploited as priests needed worship and money or you get no blessing. God took it out of a building with Christ now the redeemer the role of priests was just written on the Wall wailing if applicable.Wont matter how many Wright or wrong turns you make its still a circle.

xparte
11-14-15, 04:56 AM
What is it that the denied seek. Christ showing up again like a hollywood has been the reunion show a book was lost then found it was hidden from who why was it found. its authority is its author Man can author anything with authority.Why was Christ not literal if he was he just author the truth and like a owners manual we have no choice. read your manual thats been lost 1000 years just to find out water can run a car well they killed that guy at the gas station for trying to mislead our customers.tesla never fried the elephant jp morgan was had the straw that broke who s back. If 2000 years from now some one just read Christ was real what diff is it now if he isn't until u can read he was or wasn't its no better than a notice that u must read this. Christ never used a white board. he talked parables its never up to some one else to tell u what he meant rather its what you believe he said that your willing to repeat.Deny what he said or what u think some one can make up the truth better than Christ. Bill Hicks if JC came back the last thing he needs to see is a Cross around your neck start with that denial first are we killing Christ

BLBereans
11-14-15, 03:20 PM
The denial that Jesus the Christ of Nazareth's life and death was actual and real is central to the polemic against the literal Creator and God of Abraham. It is essential to those who deny matter, deny the resurrection, deny the true miracles performed by Jesus, deny that He was/is God incarnate, deny that His coming in the flesh, subsequent death and resurrection after the 72 hour period was necessary for our redemption and eternal salvation.

The Kingdom is come, however, it is not yet fully manifest. The literal life and death of Jesus the Christ of Nazareth ushered in the Kingdom; He conquered the Adversary and its corruptive influence over God's creation. Every act of Jesus, and everything that befell Him, was evidence of His sacrifice and victory over the Adversary and the world for our benefit. All who believe in Him share in that victory and will rule with Him in a literal paradise forever at the end of the age - we know not the time or the season.

Speaking of Jesus as a "bastard", Abraham as a "incester", Sarah as "bitchy", Moses as a "magician" and, ultimately, The God of Abraham as the blood-thirsty demiurge is for the purpose of denying the 'realness' of things written in the bible and relegating ALL scripture as strictly allegory.

In my opinion, allegory and parables are obvious albeit not exclusive. I believe the real, the parable and the allegory are all related symbiotically in order to fully present the message the real living God wishes to impart to His real living children.

The denial of the Son, who is the Angel of the LORD and Jesus of Nazareth, was/is always the work of the Adversary.

allodial
11-15-15, 12:25 AM
Unregenerate self-proclaimed "god men" cannot rule men on a higher vibration so to speak. Keeping men slaving, scrabbling, digging for food, clothing, shelter is part of their ruling method. That the Creator says "Hey there is more to it than what you see with your eyes or feel with your hands" threatens their psycho-material control system. They are trying to turn a game or virtual reality 'level' into a prison and private kingdom. God blew the lid on their dirty game, and ever sense they have been in denial.