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allodial
04-16-16, 12:07 AM
The (British) East India Company: The Original Corporate Raiders
For a century, the East India Company conquered, subjugated and plundered vast tracts of south Asia. The lessons of its brutal reign have never been more relevant

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One of the very first Indian words to enter the English language was the Hindustani slang for plunder: “loot”. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, this word was rarely heard outside the plains of north India until the late 18th century, when it suddenly became a common term across Britain. To understand how and why it took root and flourished in so distant a landscape, one need only visit Powis Castle.

The last hereditary Welsh prince, Owain Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn, built Powis castle as a craggy fort in the 13th century; the estate was his reward for abandoning Wales to the rule of the English monarchy. But its most spectacular treasures date from a much later period of English conquest and appropriation: Powis is simply awash with loot from India, room after room of imperial plunder, extracted by the East India Company in the 18th century.

There are more Mughal artefacts stacked in this private house in the Welsh countryside than are on display at any one place in India – even the National Museum in Delhi. The riches include hookahs of burnished gold inlaid with empurpled ebony; superbly inscribed spinels and jewelled daggers; gleaming rubies the colour of pigeon’s blood and scatterings of lizard-green emeralds. There are talwars set with yellow topaz, ornaments of jade and ivory; silken hangings, statues of Hindu gods and coats of elephant armour.

Such is the dazzle of these treasures that, as a visitor last summer, I nearly missed the huge framed canvas that explains how they came to be here. The picture hangs in the shadows at the top of a dark, oak-panelled staircase. It is not a masterpiece, but it does repay close study. An effete Indian prince, wearing cloth of gold, sits high on his throne under a silken canopy. On his left stand scimitar and spear carrying officers from his own army; to his right, a group of powdered and periwigged Georgian gentlemen. The prince is eagerly thrusting a scroll into the hands of a statesmanlike, slightly overweight Englishman in a red frock coat.

The painting shows a scene from August 1765, when the young Mughal emperor Shah Alam, exiled from Delhi and defeated by East India Company troops, was forced into what we would now call an act of involuntary privatisation. The scroll is an order to dismiss his own Mughal revenue officials in Bengal, Bihar and Orissa, and replace them with a set of English traders appointed by Robert Clive – the new governor of Bengal – and the directors of the EIC, who the document describes as “the high and mighty, the noblest of exalted nobles, the chief of illustrious warriors, our faithful servants and sincere well-wishers, worthy of our royal favours, the English Company”. The collecting of Mughal taxes was henceforth subcontracted to a powerful multinational corporation – whose revenue-collecting operations were protected by its own private army.

It was at this moment that the East India Company (EIC) ceased to be a conventional corporation, trading and silks and spices, and became something much more unusual. Within a few years, 250 company clerks backed by the military force of 20,000 locally recruited Indian soldiers had become the effective rulers of Bengal. An international corporation was transforming itself into an aggressive colonial power.

Using its rapidly growing security force {*ARMY*} – its army had grown to 260,000 men by 1803 – it swiftly subdued and seized an entire subcontinent. Astonishingly, this took less than half a century. The first serious territorial conquests began in Bengal in 1756; 47 years later, the company’s reach extended as far north as the Mughal capital of Delhi, and almost all of India south of that city was by then effectively ruled from a boardroom in the City of London. “What honour is left to us?” asked a Mughal official named Narayan Singh, shortly after 1765, “when we have to take orders from a handful of traders who have not yet learned to wash their bottoms?”

We still talk about the British conquering India, but that phrase disguises a more sinister reality. It was not the British government {but who was the BEIC an agent of?} that seized India at the end of the 18th century, but a dangerously unregulated private company headquartered in one small office, five windows wide, in London, and managed in India by an unstable sociopath – Clive.

(Source/more (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/04/east-india-company-original-corporate-raiders))

Related:
Commodore Perry and Japan (1853-1854)
(http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/special/japan_1750_perry.htm)

David Merrill
04-16-16, 03:25 AM
Thanks again.

I was viewing that in terms of Dutch v. British rule over VOC. Either way, as you point out, a breach of trust to have a privately operated military force.

David Merrill
04-16-16, 09:47 AM
P.S. This brings up the history of Executive Order, especially warring without the prior approval of Congress. More recently I would say the execution of the three-day Bankers' Holiday upon 30-day Judgment of my Bill of Exchange (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImQW9TVzVUWmt5X2c/view?usp=sharing); like I have pointed out, 371 years after my ancestral patent. I recall the 1917 Trading with the Enemy Act being cited while BUSH rammed the new War on Terrorism down Congress' throat.


I am of course anxious that somebody may mention the dead Presidents at my feet to the Secret Service:



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I have mentioned WASHINGTON and even entertain the esoteric that George was killed in New York early in the Revolution, and replaced with Adam WEISHAUPT; albeit not seriously enough to defend. But we might examine some of the mischief arising out of killing LINCOLN prior to him declaring the Extraordinary Occasion over...




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I recall noting at the time, 153 years (the first Cube Sum Number Lock after 1) passing between April 15, 1861 and 2014.


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It is most fetching how thin the veneer might actually be, between the Constitution (extraordinary occasion clause) and the original Charter of 1629?

Michael Joseph
04-16-16, 12:05 PM
The phantom of the opera in the perfect image of a priest.

David Merrill
04-16-16, 05:00 PM
You make me wish I had paid more attention to the metaphors.



P.S. Zechariah transfigured across the Veil, only to become mute for the gestation period of John the Baptist. Is this so that uttering the Name of the Prophet would not interfere with the Creation Process?

xparte
04-16-16, 06:21 PM
Dutch West Indies company was chiefly
to exploit the indigenous peoples pun intended Starting a New World Order in 1654 New Amsterdam and Newport Rhode Island as the D-W-I-C headquarters yet the commercial instinctive truth is our merchandising monopoly
were prevented by ordinances issued by governor of NEW YORK forbearance
in the domestic economy however no federal reservations or reserves act yet. Discretion was
quickly discovered that the territory inhabited by the
Indians would be a fertile field there were no laws preventing the Dutch W I co from
trading with the Indians.The trading with the enigmatic enemies act was a few beads barrels blankets away.Carpetbaggers a ALEXANDER HAMILTON process was in the new world.A revolutionary war and a few more masonic lodges later we got a commercial constitution a paper freedom that only bye signature and citizenship the declaration and state has been prepared bill of lading or Bill of rights its in exchange for what DEMAND or DEBT Tribe of Danny Boy the pipes a major factor is materialistic gain what does one gain with this knowledge that truth will set things right or beyond materialistic truth and its freedom to set a soul free,Greed has everything to gain for the greedy should i be surprised with spiritual greed .Do i need a lawful excuse to refuse legal judgement can i pay to the order do i belong too this order.Questioned freedoms and bills of exchange trading with the enemy endorsed signatories land titles treatises or trespassing. Profiteering Privateers the water mark its as pagan and as private as this kingdom can be yours beneath one materialistic sky however lookup the competition this flight has been commercially oversold .Delivered = Accounting who pays for ignorance the claimant.Who ignores the claimant becomes the claim . Masonic lodge and or Haudenosaunee longhouse 1722 (or thereabouts), the Tuscarora Nation from the region known as North Carolina, was admitted to the Confederacy under the sponsorship of the Oneida Nation. The Five Nations of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy thus became the Six Nations. The people of the Six Nations, also known by the French term, [Iroquois ] Confederacy, call themselves the Hau de no sau nee (ho dee noe sho nee) meaning People Building a Long House. Located in the northeastern region of North America, originally the Six Nations was five and included the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, and Senecas. The sixth nation, the Tuscaroras, migrated into Iroquois country in the early eighteenth century. Together these peoples comprise the oldest living participatory democracy on earth. Their story, and governance truly based on the consent of the governed, contains a great deal of life-promoting intelligence for those of us not familiar with this area of American history. The original United States representative democracy, fashioned by such central authors as Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, drew much inspiration from this confederacy of nations. In our present day, we can benefit immensely, in our quest to establish anew a government truly dedicated to all life's liberty and happiness much as has been practiced by the Six Nations for over 800 hundred years. Nations were formed for commercial trade with this in mind trading a foreign state or interstate controlled commerce . Regarding the origination of the word Iroquois,
Another matter that surprised many contemporary observers was the Iroquois' sophisticated use of oratory. Their excellence with the spoken word, among other attributes, often caused Colden and others to compare the Iroquois to the Romans and Greeks. The French use of the term Iroquois to describe the confederacy was itself related to this oral tradition; it came from the practice of ending their orations with the two words hiro and kone. The first meant "I say" or "I have said" and the second was an exclamation of joy or sorrow according to the circumstances of the speech. The two words, joined and made subject to French pronunciation, became Iroquois. The English were often exposed to the Iroquois' oratorical skills at eighteenth-century treaty councils. Yankee slick pass the talking stick.

David Merrill
04-16-16, 07:10 PM
Dutch West Indies company was chiefly
to exploit the indigenous peoples pun intended Starting a New World Order in 1654...

The trading with the enigmatic enemies act...


The two words, joined and made subject to French pronunciation, became Iroquois. The English were often exposed to the Iroquois' oratorical skills at eighteenth-century treaty councils. Yankee slick pass the talking stick.

Trading with the Enigmatic Enemies Act (1917) - It is tempting but I will refrain from stealing that.

Thank you for the Canadian perspective! Here we have all land westward of an eastern seaboard river granted to the US by the Iroquois Federation. - I thinks this is the perfect example of your point:

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Feeding on the ignorance about geography makes me wonder how the cajoling PETERS was affiliated with the VOC?



P.S. I have long associated the Treaty of Fort Stanwix with "consecration of the altar" as in sanctifying the transplant vineyard.


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David Merrill
04-16-16, 07:38 PM
Creation and communication are synonyms. Only beings of like order can truly communicate.


P.P.S.



https://youtu.be/ooomyvwkUkc



https://youtu.be/bRBiolyAREQ

David Merrill
04-16-16, 09:32 PM
Dutch West Indies company was chiefly
to exploit the indigenous peoples pun intended Starting a New World Order in 1654 New Amsterdam and Newport Rhode Island as the D-W-I-C headquarters yet the commercial instinctive truth is our merchandising monopoly
were prevented by ordinances issued by governor of NEW YORK forbearance
in the domestic economy however no federal reservations or reserves act yet. Discretion was
quickly discovered that the territory inhabited by the
Indians would be a fertile field there were no laws preventing the Dutch W I co from
trading with the Indians.The trading with the enigmatic enemies act was a few beads barrels blankets away.Carpetbaggers a ALEXANDER HAMILTON process was in the new world.A revolutionary war and a few more masonic lodges later we got a commercial constitution a paper freedom that only bye signature and citizenship the declaration and state has been prepared bill of lading or Bill of rights its in exchange for what DEMAND or DEBT Tribe of Danny Boy the pipes a major factor is materialistic gain what does one gain with this knowledge that truth will set things right or beyond materialistic truth and its freedom to set a soul free,Greed has everything to gain for the greedy should i be surprised with spiritual greed .Do i need a lawful excuse to refuse legal judgement can i pay to the order do i belong too this order.Questioned freedoms and bills of exchange trading with the enemy endorsed signatories land titles treatises or trespassing. Profiteering Privateers the water mark its as pagan and as private as this kingdom can be yours beneath one materialistic sky however lookup the competition this flight has been commercially oversold .Delivered = Accounting who pays for ignorance the claimant.Who ignores the claimant becomes the claim . Masonic lodge and or Haudenosaunee longhouse 1722 (or thereabouts), the Tuscarora Nation from the region known as North Carolina, was admitted to the Confederacy under the sponsorship of the Oneida Nation. The Five Nations of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy thus became the Six Nations. The people of the Six Nations, also known by the French term, [Iroquois ] Confederacy, call themselves the Hau de no sau nee (ho dee noe sho nee) meaning People Building a Long House. Located in the northeastern region of North America, originally the Six Nations was five and included the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, and Senecas. The sixth nation, the Tuscaroras, migrated into Iroquois country in the early eighteenth century. Together these peoples comprise the oldest living participatory democracy on earth. Their story, and governance truly based on the consent of the governed, contains a great deal of life-promoting intelligence for those of us not familiar with this area of American history. The original United States representative democracy, fashioned by such central authors as Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, drew much inspiration from this confederacy of nations. In our present day, we can benefit immensely, in our quest to establish anew a government truly dedicated to all life's liberty and happiness much as has been practiced by the Six Nations for over 800 hundred years. Nations were formed for commercial trade with this in mind trading a foreign state or interstate controlled commerce . Regarding the origination of the word Iroquois,
Another matter that surprised many contemporary observers was the Iroquois' sophisticated use of oratory. Their excellence with the spoken word, among other attributes, often caused Colden and others to compare the Iroquois to the Romans and Greeks. The French use of the term Iroquois to describe the confederacy was itself related to this oral tradition; it came from the practice of ending their orations with the two words hiro and kone. The first meant "I say" or "I have said" and the second was an exclamation of joy or sorrow according to the circumstances of the speech. The two words, joined and made subject to French pronunciation, became Iroquois. The English were often exposed to the Iroquois' oratorical skills at eighteenth-century treaty councils. Yankee slick pass the talking stick.



Interesting how you have mixed useful history into suggestion and allegorical metaphors. Thank you. I am picking this apart sentence by sentence.


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allodial
04-17-16, 12:25 AM
Note: By the time you reach the end of the post, its important to have in mind that it was the (Roman Catholic) Habsburgs that were outsed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habsburg_Netherlands) during the Dutch Revolution.
It might be helpful to consider that DEIC, DWIC and BEIC may have been each 'states' in fact. Or as Philip J. Stern (https://history.duke.edu/people/philip-j-stern) put it regarding BEIC specifically: "A State in the Disguise of a Merchant" (entered as titled to a segment of a book).

The authority for BEIC in India had to do with a Portugese cession regarding Portugese India. Let it be very clear that alongside BEIC or VOC/DEIC/DEWC there was the Portuguese East India Company (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?2134-The-Portuguese-East-India-Company) (1628–1633). Could it be that the (Calvinist) Dutch and (Anglican) British got their idea for BEIC and VOC from Holy Roman Empire models?

Re:xparte, treatment of "natives"
Was DEIC and DEWC though allegedly of a Protestant nation simply carrying out Roman Catholic Canon law? As in did they incorporated it or adopt it despite all appearances, allegations or notions to the contrary?

Re: Enemy
Perhaps that means "enemy of Christ" though the meaning of the term may have varied wildly.


One of the justifications for enslavement was the concept of "enemies of Christ", who could be enslaved according to a series of Papal bulls. This tended to be very widely interpreted to include, as well as Muslims, Eastern Orthodox Christians in military situations, and Slavs, Africans and Americans who opposed conversion.

So begs the question, from a neutral observer-spectator perspective, what might any of this have to do with the actual identity of the harlot in the Book of Revelations and not just the identify of the harlot but of her children or daughters (ala Book of Revelations)? How do events which play out after the 1700s relate to the rise of or permitting of the proliferation of speculative religion (http://universitypublishingonline.org/cambridge/histories/chapter.jsf?bid=CHO9780511975257&cid=CHO9780511975257A032)?

Did BEIC and VOC borrow from the Holy Roman Empire model?

Related:

The Truth About the Catholic Church and Slavery (The problem wasn't that the leadership was silent. It was that almost nobody listened) (http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/julyweb-only/7-14-53.0.html)
Slavery Incorporated Into (Roman Catholic) Canon Law - Catholic Church and Slavery (touches upon Islam and more) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_slavery#Slavery_incorporated_i nto_canon_law)
Dum Diversas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas)



P.S. Though there may be zero connection, note the similarity....

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The flag of the Gujarat Sultanate (of India)

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The flag of Washington, D.C. with its three stars (or triple crown?)

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The flag of Austria.


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George Washington coat of arms.


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But then again, there was such a thing as Habsburg India and .. the Austrian East India Company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_East_India_Company). Was the 'obsession' with India to do with gaining sovereignty or right of control over "Indians". What was India's relation or connection to Egypt or Ethiopia? (a very interesting one no doubt)

BLBereans
04-17-16, 02:09 PM
So begs the question, from a neutral observer-spectator perspective, what might any of this have to do with the actual identity of the harlot in the Book of Revelations and not just the identify of the harlot but of her children or daughters (ala Book of Revelations)? How do events which play out after the 1700s relate to the rise of or permitting of the proliferation of speculative religion (http://universitypublishingonline.org/cambridge/histories/chapter.jsf?bid=CHO9780511975257&cid=CHO9780511975257A032)?

Gnosticism/Humanism rears it's ugly head again...

from this source (http://www.genesisforumacademy.org/documents/TheGnosticInfluenceOnPsychology_001.pdf)

Thomas Harris (1967/1973)

I would like to suggest that a reasonable approximation of this objective moral order, or of ultimate
truth is that persons are important in that they are all bound together in a universal relatedness
which transcends their own personal existence. Is this a reasonable postulate? The most helpful
analytic concept in attempting to answer this question is the concept of comparative difficulties. It
is difficult to believe that persons are important, and it is also difficult to believe they are not…. We
cannot prove they are important. We have only the faith to believe they are, because of the greater
difficulty of believing they are not. (p. 254)

On the surface such a statement on the value of humans suggests a high level of morality. In
reality, it lacks all virtue since there is no longer any external ?measuring stick, no objective law
which determines such absolute definitions. All of history recounts what happens to persons
when subjective feelings are used as the ?final solution? in defining the worth of individuals.
Adoration degenerates to mere respect and finally to contempt with its logical and awful
consequences. Jonas (1958) lays the blame for such anthropological degeneracy at the feet of
Gnostic teaching:

Among the reproaches which Plotinus raises against the Gnostics… is that they lack a theory of
virtue; and he maintains that it is their contempt of the world that prevents them from having one….
Their doctrine… holds in contempt all the laws down here and virtue which has risen among men
from the beginning of time, and puts temperance to ridicule. (p. 266)

At its worst, humanism is seen as human nature possessing a core of evil; at its best, humanism
can only generate a pseudo-value system since the formulation of values is simply a subjective
experience with some sort of governmental entity as the final social arbitrator. But when these
forms of governance arbitrate, it tends to bring out this inherently evil human core rather than the
hoped for idealistic peace so sought after by the humanist. The end result of this is a subjective
subjectivity, a sort of sophisticated solipsism or, more classically, an existential view of reality.
The existential, nihilistic, humanistic world-view then brings us to the door of Fourth Force
Psychology. For the mystical religions of the East claim to hold an answer for the ultimate
humanistic dilemma.

and further...

The religions of the West are not sufficiently esoteric to be included in a ?science of psychology,
a concept which must be maintained for psychology to remain credible in this culture. Thus a
?fourth force in psychology has emerged to provide this ?science of the soul with a tie to the
religions of the East. Note how the various Eastern religions of today try to pass themselves off
as scientific (Yoga, faddish Transcendental Meditation, and Zen Buddhism) in the same way that
the Gnostics who were quasi-scientific for their age tried to be identified as religious. Those who
are encouraging this merging of science and religion describe the trend in this way:

An integration of science and eastern religion is clearly emerging. If science and religion are so
broadly similar, and not arbitrarily limited in their domains, they should at sometime clearly
converge. I believe this confluence is inevitable. For they both represent man's efforts to
understand his universe and must ultimately be dealing with the same substance. As we
understand more in each realm, the two must grow together… But converge they must, and
through this should come new strength for both. (Townes, 1976, pp. 10-19)

The Gnostic influence here is unmistakable. The password used to gain entrance into our
sophisticated scientific age by those wearing the cloak of religion is quantum physics. Emerging
from this is a new psychology, Fourth Force Psychology, which is represented as a ?science of
consciousness (Pelletier, 1978, pp. 32-66). This is exactly what the ancients experienced as
metaphysics (Aristotle) or speculative physics, the same concept that was used in the earlier
discussion of nature philosophy.

Therefore psychology has come full circle from speculative religion (the Eastern mysteries)
through speculative philosophy (the Greeks), speculative science (the Gnostics), speculations
concerning human nature (dualism), speculative philosophy again (Freudian and Jungian
psychoanalysis), speculative human nature again (humanistic psychology), speculative science
again (quantum physics), and finally to speculative religion (the Eastern mysteries).
The underlying problem to this circular dilemma is how humanity has handled the Gospel.
This was the problem of the Gnostics in specific and humankind as a whole both before Christ
and after. When the Resurrection is considered the central theme in Christian doctrine (I
Corinthians 15) the distinction is clear between what Christ taught and experienced and what the
Gnostics, Eastern mystics, and modern metaphysicists speculate. It is the case of the
Resurrection versus a belief in reincarnation.

Reincarnation is implied in Gnosticism and certainly represents the basis of Eastern
religions. Life becomes extremely insignificant to the Gnostic and the Eastern mystic, but to the
Christian life is the basis of resurrection. Life is real and the world is real. We begin at
conception but we die in the end, at death. It is only the Resurrection of Christ that gives life. All
is not an illusion; we are not an emanation; we do not reincarnate or transmigrate. Life is
important and, indeed, it is all that we have.

xparte
04-21-16, 05:09 PM
Training in virtue and, in particular, the training of moral courage was an absolute necessity and it was held to be of paramount importance. Owing to lack of time, One cannot enlarge upon this today, but there was a conviction that knowledge can only benefit the world when what can be done by a man who knows, is done only by one who is good. However improbable that seems to people who look on earlier ages as barbaric and try thinking that nowadays we have made such wonderful progress — so wonderful, in fact, that thousands are bathed in blood every week since in Gods name we are trusting good men like Cortez Columbus State led by those who had undergone the moral training and discipline spreading the Doctrine .The modern age is not adapted for directly applying such a principle. Just imagine how such a principle might be realized today when everyone says what he knows as soon as possible — or even has it published — and no one can prevent it. It would be illusory to think that anything, social institution or whatever, could stop it. Today is the day of publicity. What, then, must replace this older principle of only allowing men who had undergone moral discipline to attain Knowledge? It must be replaced with the assurance that the imparted knowledge itself must contain a certain force that brings forth good through itself, actually and really to bring forth of itself what is good. Spiritual Standing is a good knowledge of what holding a dollar bill in a heathens face without the knowing in God I trust.Commercial Corruption of Spiritual Standing the Americas is a great place for hypocrites on both sides .Heads rolled before european exploitation just the doctrine was vigilance yet paganising. Rejected as inquisitive customs the Spanish inquisition hits a mirroring.Who Creamed your Corn.

David Merrill
04-21-16, 06:28 PM
That touches on a point that I discovered in high school contemplating life with my buddies.

Before the phone and TV I would have relied on somebody, usually a stranger for news about what was happening where he had been. - From wherever he had come traveling. I would of course repeat what he had said and this "gossip" would become news. If he lied to me, I would lie to others. If somebody had lied to him, he would be lying to me in turn...

So it seems that a man was actually held to a higher standard about his honor and word back in the "crude" time of the past, of which you speak. The day of social media emotionalism was preceded by a Western Bible Belt (Colorado Springs) wave of Prophets and then a spasmic Patriot Guru named Tim TURNER (in prison until 2027 I hear). It really amazed me how one named Monte JUDAH made some prophecies, then admitted to his following he was a false prophet when they failed, and still had the exact same following. But what really got me was watching all the false prophets during that charismatic phase just ignore or somehow rationalize that the transform through which they were interpreting information was simply something other than the Holy Spirit of God. And the congregants would ignorantly just brush it off too.

allodial
04-21-16, 09:56 PM
That is why the primary instruction for discerning the spirits was a question as to whether Jesus/Y'shua the Anointed came in the flesh (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-John-4-3/) or not. Because to deny that would be to deny the incarnation, death, resurrection and ascension altogether. Clearly there are those who hold or who have held to the notion of only a 'wraith like' or 'spirit form' having come or, alternatively, the idea that he never came ever. Falling for mere manifestations of power or psychic experience isn't sufficient.


And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. --1 John 4:3 (KJV)

So that entire camp that denies he and the Messiah ever came is described by reference (they are waiting for a different Messiah--whether they call him "Christ" or "He" or "Him" is irrelevant). Could there be such a thing as subscribers to a proverbial Worthless Shepherd function?

David Merrill
04-21-16, 10:40 PM
Could there be such a thing as subscribers to a proverbial Worthless Shepherd function?


This could go somewhere and get right back to the Topic because I have integrated the Worthless Shepherd prophecy into my interpretation of the Book of Mark. The attached rendition is suggested by The Nazarene Gospel Restored and is a slight rearrangement of Zechariah verses so to explain how the Worthless Shepherd Prophecy effected the events at the Last Supper.

In context or alone like I quoted you, I am getting nowhere matching up a "Worthless Shepherd function" with your point. Albeit I am intrigued. My habit is to find reproducible mental models (math) and apply the math to discover useful revelation behind otherwise encrypted parable; dispelling ILLUSION.



ILLUSION


1) parable
2) myth
3) fable
4) hallucination
5) legend


The list goes on and on but I like categories of FIVE.

allodial
04-21-16, 11:04 PM
My take on math: symbols for expressing and record patterns that we might observe. As in who rejected Jesus/Y'shua perhaps became or become subscribers to a 'Worthless Shepherd function' it keeps producing predictable results: misery for subscriber and even for those they might adversely affect. Whether its misery from searching for grandeur and riches in Amway or misery of seeking liberty in black magic only to be caught up in dark Karmic cycles and so forth.


“And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.” 1 Samuel 8:7 (KJV (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Samuel-8-7/))

See also: Bar Kokhba revolt (or Zechariah 11 Fulfilled (http://revelationrevolution.org/zechariah-11-a-preterist-commentary/)). Generally: adultery and indirection.

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Bar-Kokhba is said to have severely persecuted Christians who "did not deny Jesus as the Messiah and blaspheme him."...

Convinced that Eleazar, Bar-Kokhba’s right hand man, wanted to surrender Bethar, the city in which Bar-Kokhba put forth his last stand, Bar-Kokhba kicked the priest with his foot and killed him. Immediately thereafter in fulfillment of Leviticus 24:19-22, a heavenly voice is recorded to have been heard quoting Zechariah 11:17: “Woe to the worthless shepherd that leaveth the flock! The sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye! Thou hast paralyzed the arm of Israel and blinded their right eye; therefore shall thy arm wither and thy right eye grow dim!”[16] The paralyzing of the arm of Israel mentioned above may be illustrated by the fact that Bar-Kokbha required the soldiers of his army to bite off their right fingers in order to prove their loyalty to him.[17]

Bethar was soon captured by the Romans and Bar-Kokhba was killed on the ninth day of Av–the very same day in which the first and second Jewish temples had been destroyed. A Cuthean then brought Bar-Kokhba’s head to Hadrian. Hadrian then ordered the man to bring him his body. When the Cuthean returned, he found a serpent wrapped around Bar-Kokhba’s neck. When the man relayed this story, Hadrian replied, “If his God had not slain him who could have overcome him?”

Interestingly enough, it was Hadrian that renamed Judea (to) Palestine (as in Philistines ..Dagon).

xparte
04-22-16, 02:02 AM
ones handshake is honoured only if your a Man of your word the handshake is symbolic of some trust and a healthy fear of God and his internal word. Material handshake spiritual handshake two hands around someones neck is not a legal handshake without lawful excuse . Its A miracle Christ never shook hands with the Church Moses tapping a ROCK and the BROAD at the well asking Christ how he is going to help without a bucket both rivers of life Moses people thirst a burning knowledge /and a rock questioned. Christ what Rock you stand with or the one the church is hiding under is just been questioned with Moses as the Church we all thirst for some handshake it hides the fear of God as agreement between men or a deal in the eyes of God is just materialistic and its the word thats spiritual .No blessing required no swearing .Deals are as old as the paperwork .AZTECS and political power came from KERNEL CORN THE harvesting hearts thats a church thing SEPHARDIC HEBREWS were no match for CATHOLIC exploitation and expulsions when your Crown couldn't pay its debts it literally ripped a beating heart out of Any merchant mariner or those banking merchants of Venice MEXICO VIA Holland the VENETIANS WOODEN SHIPS NOT SHOES and the rest is justified handshakes .Discovering America is joining our underestimated past.Truth is just a regional bank where we store blame. one church at a time if offensive and defensive were just a handshake it would be just so much less to remember. If its written its just hidden within the words. in the beginning WAS without WAS in who's being or in what beginning . A happy being needs a tragedy of wordsmiths or a smile needs a wipe.musings or muskets.Gringo

David Merrill
04-23-16, 11:32 AM
My take on math: symbols for expressing and record patterns that we might observe. As in who rejected Jesus/Y'shua perhaps became or become subscribers to a 'Worthless Shepherd function' it keeps producing predictable results: misery for subscriber and even for those they might adversely affect.

What is mathematics, Really? by Rubin HERSH clarifies - The study of reproducible mental models. Which is what you said, as I read it.

You took me to revisit these two 1928 Century Magazine articles (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImRnlDdFRQRnNUTFU/view?usp=sharing) and be reminded that Jesus is Idumean in the multicultural setting of Israel. Edomite, presuming my take true that Jesus was the bastard son of young Archelaus HEROD, son of Idumean Jew Herod the Great. This article (https://aryanisrael.wordpress.com/tag/idumeans/) seems bereft of the distinction between Jews and Israelites as in the Books Ezra and Nehemiah. Without factoring in Nebuchadnezzar's mental capture I doubt the article will suffice for my purposes this wonderful High Sabbath morning (http://www.aish.com/jl/hol/o/48970511.html).

Jesus being Edomite adds a new lens to a mixed reaction to public coronation.



Mar 11:27 And they come again to Jerusalem: and as he was walking in the temple, there come to him the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders,
Mar 11:28 And say unto him, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority to do these things?
Mar 11:29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things.
Mar 11:30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.

John, the King's (Archelaus - Antipas and Philip were Tetrarchs) Prophet had crowned Jesus from Administrative Headquarters in Exile - the "wilderness" East of the Jordan.


ones handshake is honoured only if your a Man of your word the handshake is symbolic of some trust and a healthy fear of God and his internal word. Material handshake spiritual handshake two hands around someones neck is not a legal handshake without lawful excuse . Its A miracle Christ never shook hands with the Church Moses tapping a ROCK and the BROAD at the well asking Christ how he is going to help without a bucket both rivers of life Moses people thirst a burning knowledge /and a rock questioned. Christ what Rock you stand with or the one the church is hiding under is just been questioned with Moses as the Church we all thirst for some handshake it hides the fear of God as agreement between men or a deal in the eyes of God is just materialistic and its the word thats spiritual .No blessing required no swearing .Deals are as old as the paperwork .AZTECS and political power came from KERNEL CORN THE harvesting hearts thats a church thing SEPHARDIC HEBREWS were no match for CATHOLIC exploitation and expulsions when your Crown couldn't pay its debts it literally ripped a beating heart out of Any merchant mariner or those banking merchants of Venice MEXICO VIA Holland the VENETIANS WOODEN SHIPS NOT SHOES and the rest is justified handshakes .Discovering America is joining our underestimated past.Truth is just a regional bank where we store blame. one church at a time if offensive and defensive were just a handshake it would be just so much less to remember. If its written its just hidden within the words. in the beginning WAS without WAS in who's being or in what beginning . A happy being needs a tragedy of wordsmiths or a smile needs a wipe.musings or muskets.Gringo


Thank you for walking me through some symbols I have not tried applying for some years now. Moses tapping the rock, to bring forth water - why not just render that action inert? How in the world would it bring forth water? By Moses' WILL and WORD? I want that magic wand!


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allodial
04-23-16, 08:32 PM
Several issues:

1. most if not all non-Judah tribes of Israel (save Benjamin at Galilee) were most likely in exile or scattered or the like at the time Jesus arrived (Judah and Israel as kingdoms had separated and were on different 'judgment clocks');
2. the idea of any organic Judahite being in exile at the time with John in the wilderness may have been because the Edomites didnt' want anything to do with the original doctrines (see #9);
3. the notion of Y'shua/Jesus being the son of an Edomite-Judahite is highly questionable (see #7);
4. the notion of Y'shua/Jesus being clearly non-Edomite makes more sense as to why the Edomite-Judahite factions may have been against him.
5. I recall analysis pointing to Y'shua/Jesus having been hanging out with the Benjaminites and the Essenes in northern Judea.
6. there are those who assert that those called for the death and crucifixion of Y'shua seem to have identified themselves with Essau/Edom by admitting that they had never been in captivity (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-8-33/) which might be true of Edom/Essau's or even Ishmaelites rather than being true of Israel (Judah-inclusive);
7. its important to avoid blurring the distinctions between Jesus son of Julius Pantera (http://reformation.org/jesus-son-of-tiberius-julius-pantera.html) and the Y'shua the Anointed;
8. The saints aren't referred to as being gentiles in the Bible but as "formerly gentiles";
9. Edomites were incorporated into Judah under John Hyrcanus, even if Israel or Judah ceased to see distinction, the Edomites may have maintained distinction of themselves;
10. Syncretism ala Darius may have not necessarily been a good thing.


When, Herod, the son of the Idumean, Antipater "received the kingdom, he slew all the members of this Sanhedrin" Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews

David Merrill
04-23-16, 08:55 PM
Several issues:

1. most if not all non-Judah tribes of Israel (save Benjamin at Galilee) were most likely in exile or scattered or the like at the time Jesus arrived.
2. the idea of any organic Judahite being in exile at the time with John in the wilderness may have been because the Edomites didnt' want anything to do with the original doctrines;
3. the notion of Y'shua/Jesus being the son of an Edomite-Judahite is highly questionable;
4. the notion of Y'shua/Jesus being clearly non-Edomite makes more sense as to why the Edomite-Judahite factions may have been against him.
5. I recall analysis pointing to Y'shua/Jesus having been hanging out with the Benjaminites and the Essenes in northern Judea.
6. there are those who assert that those called for the death and crucifixion of Y'shua clearly identified themselves with Essau/Edom by admitting that they had never been in captivity which might be true of Edom/Essau's or the Edom-Cain lines rather than being true of Israel/Jacob;
7. its important to avoid blurring the distinctions between Jesus son of Julius Pantera (http://reformation.org/jesus-son-of-tiberius-julius-pantera.html) and the Y'shua the Anointed;
8. The saints aren't referred to as being gentiles in the Bible but as "formerly gentiles".


Thank you Allodial. That is all great food for thought.

I believe some of the "issues" are resolved by separating out Edomites and Jews. This might be why young Archelaus HEROD, an Edomite not a Jew was so disgraced when he got young maiden Mary (BRAIDER) MAGDALENE pregnant. Here we find that Jesus was the bastard son between an Edomite and Judah - which could mean either a Jew, or an Israelite. There are two kinds of people of the Eretz, the Land in Israel. There are Israelites with captured minds, the Jews. And there are Israelites who stayed working and living the land, who never went into the Babylonian captivity. After seventy years the Jews returned, fought for the Temple Mount for eleven years and won, capturing the Temple Mount. Then in 50 BCE Rome appointed Herod the GREAT on the Temple Mount.

This is what I was reminded of in the articles about Paul (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImRnlDdFRQRnNUTFU/view?usp=sharing). The other article about Idumean culture reminded me how multicultured Israel was at the time of Jesus.

My idea about John being a Prophet is from the Gospel of Mark. That he was a Levite is clear too. I deduce that typically the King of Israel had a traditional prophet. After some thirty years in exile, Archelaus had a slam-dunk conviction of the Pretender (Tetrarch Antipas) in idolatry with the other Tetrarch's (Philip) wife Herodias. - For which John apparently voiced the accusation, for one reason or another.

Through the affiliation and adoption of the Bastard, it would seem that politically, Jesus ascended to the throne. This is why I quote Mark chapter 11.

It would seem I cannot tie this directly back to the thread topic, but it usually happens from sleep related contemplation. I look forward to explaining it in terms of the "issues" you have brought up.

Most excellent!!

allodial
04-23-16, 09:03 PM
More points added since your post. Another important bit which reverberates with your analysis of history from the book of Nehemiah and which further underscores important distinctions from the survey drawn in time:


"The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism." --Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, (1874-1949)

Here is a timeline pertaining to Joseph Hyrcanus and Herod Archelaus:


142 BC - Exiles of Judah won independence under Maccabean kings
125 BC John Hyrcanus conquers Edomites incorporating them into his kingdom if they adopted Judaism
69 BC Antipater, Edomite chieftan and founder of the house of Herod rises to power, gains favor of Rome, made Procurator of Judea
37 BC Herod I gains almost complete control of Judea
4BC-6AD Herod Archelaus holds governorship over Judea; Scepter departs from the house of Judah; Y'shua born

There were many named "Y'shua" or "Joshua" at the time. So it would have been easy to pick out any prominent-born "Jesus" and try to mingle his background with Y'shua the Anointed's to make confusion or to defame or to obfuscate.


The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Genesis 49:10

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(http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-jewish-calendar/)
Related:
When the Scepter Departed from Judah (Genesis Messianic Prophecy Fulfilled) (savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1791-When-the-Scepter-Departed-from-Judah-(Genesis-Messianic-Prophecy-Fulfilled))

David Merrill
04-23-16, 10:25 PM
9. Edomites were incorporated into Judah under John Hyrcanus, even if Israel or Judah ceased to see distinction, the Edomites may have maintained distinction of themselves;
10. Syncretism ala Darius may have not necessarily been a good thing.

Well taken into account...



More points added since your post. Another important bit which reverberates with your analysis of history from the book of Nehemiah and which further underscores important distinctions from the survey drawn in time:



Here is a timeline pertaining to Joseph Hyrcanus and Herod Archelaus:



There were many named "Y'shua" or "Joshua" at the time. So it would have been easy to pick out any prominent-born "Jesus" and try to mingle his background with Y'shua the Anointed's to make confusion or to defame or to obfuscate.



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(http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-jewish-calendar/)
Related:
When the Scepter Departed from Judah (Genesis Messianic Prophecy Fulfilled) (savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1791-When-the-Scepter-Departed-from-Judah-(Genesis-Messianic-Prophecy-Fulfilled))


Thanks! I see an issue there but will look for resolution before developing any differences.

BLBereans
04-26-16, 09:09 PM
After reading the link allodial posted (Jesus son of Julius Pantera (http://reformation.org/jesus-son-of-tiberius-julius-pantera.html)), something curious struck me:

Whenever the term "bastard" is used to describe 'Jesus', within this post and others, it is the name "Jesus" that is used. However, the same party who espouses that "bastard" theory also sometimes writes the name 'Yehoshuah' in other commentary.

What is interesting is that the name 'Yehoshuah' is never used in conjunction with the "bastard" theory by said party. Makes one wonder regarding the obfuscation allodial wrote about.

The test is easy: will anyone disparage the real name of the anointed Christ and Son of God, born in Bethlehem as scripture prophesied, by calling him a bastard?

I would bet not.

David Merrill
04-27-16, 12:09 AM
After reading the link allodial posted (Jesus son of Julius Pantera (http://reformation.org/jesus-son-of-tiberius-julius-pantera.html)), something curious struck me:

Whenever the term "bastard" is used to describe 'Jesus', within this post and others, it is the name "Jesus" that is used. However, the same party who espouses that "bastard" theory also sometimes writes the name 'Yehoshuah' in other commentary.

What is interesting is that the name 'Yehoshuah' is never used in conjunction with the "bastard" theory by said party. Makes one wonder regarding the obfuscation allodial wrote about.

The test is easy: will anyone disparage the real name of the anointed Christ and Son of God, born in Bethlehem as scripture prophesied, by calling him a bastard?

I would bet not.

There are so many people who have never researched out Jesus' Hebrew name Yehoshuah. Those who do, often called Messianic Jews, abbreviate and (Talmudic) slur Yehoshuah to Yeshuah; which actually removes the theophoric prefix:

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Even changing it to Yehushuah is a slur against Jesus being Godly in nature.

I note as supermoderator you avoid mentioning me on "my own" website by name. I understand that. I like to believe that in my own firsthand access to source materials around Colorado Springs (Masonic library and federal repository etc.) that I can spot when a member writes things that might lead to prison, or even be degenerative to the other members finding prosperity. Also, on top of that I keep bots, phishers and spammers from even getting one post out.

You are refreshing BLBareans. Thank you for reminding me how conditioned we are to receive the legal term bastard as a nasty or otherwise unworthy person. I deserve the reminder, meaning I have earned it. The point is well taken and the readers here deserve an explanation. There is a scene from Kingdom of Heaven (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_Kingdom_of_Heaven_snippet.wmv). It is difficult to accept this allegory for evidence, I am sure. However there is something important in my life history about using the State of Colorado Great Seal that led me to hold the scene where Liam asks forgiveness of his bastard son, and in turn the son forgives his biological but absentee father. Reconciliation and the redemption was found in the son enjoying an elaborate estate in Jerusalem.

The Secretary of State warned me that if I was not AFFILIATED with state business I was committing a class 5 felony in Colorado:


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This is an act of love. Another way to view it is to adopt the state in breach of trust, as a wayward son; meaning that it is no longer under the parentage of the People. Breach of trust opens the opportunity for a resulting trustee.

Sometimes I will meet one of you, maybe even not a suitor, who will stop me in mid-sentence and say, "I know, I read this." - Meaning that there are "buddies" out there who have been entertaining themselves, and educating themselves as well now for years, upon my writings. So this is why I feel that maybe I have been enjoying the conditioning, that I have a better-than-conditioned definition for "bastard" to throw around.

When somebody shuts down hearing my point, I feel that I am right because I am using the term "bastard" in a legal sense and in my Bible Dictionary education about the life and times of Yehoshuah H'Mashiach - Jesus CHRIST.

The models I believe not only have Jesus surviving the Cross by hiding in the family tomb for two days, but the way he got there was for one of two reasons, the King of Israel was passing that crown to him, as the biological but bastard heir to that throne. Allodial has helped me hash through the multicultural environment and even get some insights into the political climate too.

My point, before I go into that, is that Archelaus HEROD either died or was accusing through John the Baptist that Antipas was in blatant adultery with the other Tetrarch, not King, Philip's wife so to impeach Antipas and either regain the Jerusalem throne, or put Jesus on it as the rightful heir the Wise Men (Magi) had indicated upon Jesus' birth when Jesus was a toddler.

Now I am integrating that Caesar had instated Herod the GREAT upon that throne as an Edomite King. This would mean that Jesus was a mixture of Levite maiden, and Edomite. Whether or not Mary the BRAIDER - MAGDALENE was Jewish or Israelite may be my next solution to work out. Either way, it is very productive to do so with minds like yours working through various issues with and for me. I have a good memory but my genius if any is right there between your ears and more specifically in my (our) brain trust of suitors, who by and large have published evidence they are courts of competent jurisdiction and enjoy the pure right of refusal (R4C) as such.

So please be clear that I believe Jesus was Son of God, named Yehoshuah. You will find this agrees with Young's, Strong's and Richardson's concordances. It is this man and the Son of God who I am calling a bastard.

Michael Joseph
04-27-16, 01:13 AM
arguments over historical accuracy rarely if ever yield any fruit. I liken these arguments to taking a side against abortion. I refuse to enter the arena as there is never any winner. Thusly I let no man judge me. Consider the wisdom in that statement. Let no man judge you!

As for my house, by careful study of Scripture I have come to understand trust law and how it works. In other words, the players are mere actors and I know if the kingdom is righteous THEN certain aspects have to be. I need no justification in terms of one placating me with "you are right" because I know I'm right!

I'm right for me. Now you go be right for you! The cry goes forth who will help the widows son? Which pisses off some folk because they don't understand who is the widow and who is the son. Elijah knew. Therefore John the Baptist knew!

xparte
04-27-16, 05:30 AM
Constantine the first beast compiled 50 bibles, legalized Christianity and set up the false prophet (pope). King James the second beast, born 6/1566, 6th of Scotland, authorized a bible in 1611 that now has 66 books to control the people with, an image of God's word. Wisdom is not knowledge. Wisdom is ?action?. It is information converted into behavior.? A theologianS wisdom and behaviour is dangerously religious with world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence". having ones predictable behaviour or actions just mistakenly religious morality. Now ones scripture knowledge and his spiritual works are eternal not a preached wisdom. the letter J is not used till 1524 J- added ESUS the world and its materialistic messiahs Moses freedom EGYPT JEREMIAH FREEDOM BABYLON CYRUS THE GREAT BABYLON CHRIST GREEK ROME the church wants to J THE GAULISH GOD ESUS OR HESUS bastardisation of christos GREEK church ROMAN CHURCH is keeping it commercial. God reminding us eternally WHO HIS SON IS.I know in the beginning it was ,WAS THE WORD notice not IS the word. I have no issues with names u own a gun your a gunfighter u own a piano your a pianist you own a book its in the scriptures book of jeremiah chapter 10 some heavy timber being cut.GREECE ORTHODOX HEATHENS HELL-ENISTIC kristos In this context "Chresto" is mentioned. Some scholars see this as a likely reference to J -esus Chrestos in Pagan Antiquity

In reality, the term "Chrestos" or ??????? has been used in association with a plethora of people and gods, beginning centuries before the common era. Chrestos and its plural chrestoi were utilized to describe deities, oracles, philosophers, priests, oligarchs, "valuable citizens," slaves, heroes, the deceased and others. Importantly, chrestos appears to have been the title of "perfected saints" in various mystery schools or brotherhoods, associated with oracular activity in particular.

This word ??????? or chrestos appears in ancient Greek sources such as those of playwright Sophocles (497/6-406/5 BCE), who discusses ? ???????, "the good man," in Antigone (520). Also composed during the fifth century BCE and containing numerous instances of chrestos are playwright Euripides's works Heraclidae, Hecuba, Troiades and Iphigenia. Other ancient writers such as Herodotus, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Xenophon, Pseudo-Xenophon, Plato, Isocrates, Aeschines, Demosthenes, Plutarch and Appian likewise use this term chrestos or "good," sometimes quite often. In an anonymous tract discovered among the possessions of historian Xenophon (c. 430–354), the "Old Oligarch," modernly styled Pseudo-Xenophon (fl. c. 425), contrasts "the good man" (chrestos) with "the wicked man" (poneros), a common juxtaposition throughout classical antiquity that found its way into the New Testament as well (e.g., Lk 6:35).

Socrates the Chrestos

The fact that Plato (424/423-348/347 BCE) frequently mentions "the good" (???????) when discussing various figures (e.g., Plat. Rep. 5.479a) serves as an indication of the word's importance among philosophers and religionists. This association is especially germane considering the exalted place afforded Plato among spiritual seekers for centuries into the common era, including many Christians and assorted "Neoplatonists." Indeed, Plato (Theaetetus 166.a.2) uses the word to describe famed philosopher Socrates: ? ???????? ? ??????? - "Socrates the Good."

"In the fifth century BCE, Plato referred to the famous Greek philosopher of Athens as 'Socrates the Chrest.' The religious is God righteous or what.

xparte
04-27-16, 05:45 AM
Most scholars assume that the disturbances mentioned by Suetonius in the passage were due to the spread of Christianity in Rome.[22] These disturbances were likely caused by the objections of Jewish community to the continued preachings by Hellenistic Jews in Rome and their insistence that Jesus was the Messiah, resulting in tensions with the Jews in Rome.[18][30]
Some scholars think Suetonius was confused and assumed that as the leader of the agitators, Chrestus, was alive and lived in Rome at the time of the expulsion.[11][30] The notion that Chrestus was instigating Jewish unrest suggests that the Chrestus reference is not a Christian interpolation, for a Christian scribe would be unlikely to think of the followers of Christ as Jews, or place him in Rome at the time of Claudius.Should real Pagan Rome be afraid nope feed some lions and chase knowledge.

allodial
04-27-16, 06:52 AM
There are so many people who have never researched out Jesus' Hebrew name Yehoshuah. Those who do, often called Messianic Jews, abbreviate and (Talmudic) slur Yehoshuah to Yeshuah; which actually removes the theophoric prefix:

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Even changing it to Yehushuah is a slur against Jesus being Godly in nature....

So please be clear that I believe Jesus was Son of God, named Yehoshuah. You will find this agrees with Young's, Strong's and Richardson's concordances. It is this man and the Son of God who I am calling a bastard.

I would tread more prayerfully than carefully. There were many named 'Jesus'. Consider that the Talmudic stories about a son of Pantera didn't necessarily exist until the 2nd century A.D. Some if not many or most might fail to realize the link to the name at Exodus 3:14 which was put there for a reason. The names Hosea and perhaps even Isaiah are related to the discussion. The Hebrew/Chaldee/Phoenician words for savior and deliverer are 'yeh-shah' and 'howshea'. Add 'yeh' or the like to the beginning of 'howshea' and you get 'yeh+howshea' which is hardly a slur. However "Yehushuah " perhaps you have a point. Referring to someone as a bastard isn't a slur? A bastard according to whose standard?

In Hebrew/Chaldee/Phoenician the tidbit "shua" can connote: "sink or be bowed down, or humbled". However 'shea' is sometimes transliterated to 'shua'. 'shaua' refers to a 'cry for help'. However 'yeshua' means 'salvation' (rel. fem. noun). Also related are: shoa (free man or noble), yesha (salvation) and teshua (deliverance/salvation).

As for hijinx concerning names and name games of concealing true names, that some ancient Babylonians had complexes over the truth and were prone to demand to be worshiped and prostrated to seems plain in the historical record. No surprise at all if their progeny seem to follow suit. How much from Babylon can be deemed to be reliable? How do first and second century interpretations somehow manage to trump thousands of years of Ancient Old Dynasty Egyptian (remember Moses wrote using ancient Egyptian words) and Hebrew teachings and writings?

The Hidden Nebuchadnezzar and Antiochus IV Connection
Also, one might do well to consider the Idumean attack on Israel (FROM WITHIN) and subsequent taking of Judea (with the help of Rome and Pompey) then capture of the Temple (130BC to 0AD ) and destruction (70AD) in view of your model concerning Nebuchadnezzar [two hundred years vs twenty]. The coming of the one predicated by Israel in Genesis was purposed to thwart Babylonian-Edomite attempts at 'taking heaven' (they couldn't do it by way of the Tower, so they went after the Temple and the Holy of Holies (as a gateway or portal)). All of such preceded by Antiochus IV Epiphanes who besieged the Jerusalem temple and slaughtered a pig there. The same Idumeans (Herodian line) helped siege the Jerusalem temple YET AGAIN ~63 B.C. But that is what Antiocus IV did only a 100 years or so before. Pompey (Roman general) with Hyrcanus (Herodian) help overcome Aristobulus and eventually himself entered the Holy of Holies too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%2863_BC%29)!

The problem for the Babylonians is that they weren't necessarily experts in Egyptian. They have attempted to claim origination of that which was written in a language which predates Babylon: fail.


Three and a half years the Shechinah abode on the Mount of Olives hoping that Israel would repent, but they did not; while a Bath Kol [the voice of God] issued announcing, ‘Return, O backsliding children [Jer. 3:14]. Return unto Me, and I will return unto you [Mal. 3:7],’ When they did not repent, it said, ‘I will return to my place [Hosea 5:15]’ (Midrash Rabbah Lamentations Proems 25. Ernest l. Martin also states that the church historian Eusebius may have also mentioned the fact that the Shekinah or Glory Cloud left the Temple and settled on the Mt. of Olives in?Proof of the Gospel: “Believers in Christ congregate from all parts of the world, not as of old time because of the glory of Jerusalem, nor that they may worship in the ancient Temple at Jerusalem, but . . . that they may worship at the Mount of Olives opposite to the city,?whither the glory of the LORD [the Shekinah] migrated when it left the former city.” (Eusebius Proof of the Gospel 6.18.) Though Eusebius seems to echo the Midrash, these words taken in context appear to convey a different message. Eusebius means that the Shekinah left the Temple and settled on the church who he believes is represented by the Mt. of Olives, not that the Shekinah literally settled on the Mt. of Olives in A.D. 66 as Martin claims.)

It was an Idumean army that arrived in 68AD. How 'convenient' that the details of the 60 AD to 70AD periods have been left out of the discussion in "Christian churches" for so long. So begs the question: how can the "Jews" (Judeans, those of the house of Judah) that rejected Jesus and who were either taken into captivity or slaughtered at Jerusalem also be the very same "Jews" (Idumeans) who brought an army against Jerusalem together with the Romans? Mind you: Israel was predominantly in captivity or exile at the time.


arguments over historical accuracy rarely if ever yield any fruit.

The main persons arguing are the ones aiming to deny the truth or to overlay (cover) it with something else. Consider those who deny Edomite Herod's slaughter of the Innocents when ancient 350BC text written in latin (for which, 'conveniently', English translations are hardly available online except behind a pricey paywall or campus restricted context) that records Augustus responding to the news of the Slaughter of Innocents perpetrated by Herod and saying that he'd rather be a pig (hus) than one of Herod's sons (huios) (some leave out the text about the slaughter of infants under the age of two years, again, 'conveniently'). When leaders of a religion, philosophy or political system deliberately mislead 'followers' even to the extent of omitting over 160 years from the calendar--for the purpose of concealing the truth--, how reliable can their testimony be? What is there then to argue? Lies vs truth. Yielding to the truth yields fruit, no arguments then.

Consider those who spend lots of time hiding Middle Eastern artifacts in order to thwart proof of Bible historical accuracy. Not to mention that Joseph (Imnhotep) wasn't just an imaginary symbolic figure--he really lived and the evidence is all over the place. Who is arguing but those who want a different 'truth'. If those who tell us that its "all relative" really believed that--they would leave others alone, but they don't tend to unless checked.


Cum audisset inter pueros quos in Syria Herodes rex Iudaeorum intra bimatum iussit interfici filium quoque eius occisum, ait: Melius est Herodis porcum esse quam filium. --from Macrobius' Saturnalia

Note that by the time of Macrobius' writings, Syria Palaestina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_Palaestina)would have referred to the merger of Judea and Syria into a singularity.


Later, in 135 AD, in the aftermath of the Bar Kokhba revolt, Syrian province was merged with Judea province, creating the larger province of Syria Palaestina.

Related:

Yeshua In the Tanakh (The Name of JESUS in the Old Testament) (http://www.menorah.org/yeshname.html)
The Appearance of Christ in A.D. 68 (http://revelationrevolution.org/the-appearance-of-christ-in-a-d-68/)

David Merrill
04-27-16, 10:46 AM
arguments over historical accuracy rarely if ever yield any fruit. I liken these arguments to taking a side against abortion. I refuse to enter the arena as there is never any winner. Thusly I let no man judge me. Consider the wisdom in that statement. Let no man judge you!

As for my house, by careful study of Scripture I have come to understand trust law and how it works. In other words, the players are mere actors and I know if the kingdom is righteous THEN certain aspects have to be. I need no justification in terms of one placating me with "you are right" because I know I'm right!

I'm right for me. Now you go be right for you! The cry goes forth who will help the widows son? Which pisses off some folk because they don't understand who is the widow and who is the son. Elijah knew. Therefore John the Baptist knew!

As we both teach on www.lawfulmoneytrust.com I feel it necessary to explain this discrepancy, but after some sleep and in the peaceful quiet of the early morning. Xparte however seems to disagree, as he asserts history with the opening sentences of his post; so my commentary follows:


Constantine the first beast compiled 50 bibles, legalized Christianity and set up the false prophet (pope). King James the second beast, born 6/1566, 6th of Scotland, authorized a bible in 1611 that now has 66 books to control the people with, an image of God's word. Wisdom is not knowledge. Wisdom is ?action?. It is information converted into behavior.? A theologianS wisdom and behaviour is dangerously religious with world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence". having ones predictable behaviour or actions just mistakenly religious morality. Now ones scripture knowledge and his spiritual works are eternal not a preached wisdom. the letter J is not used till 1524 J- added ESUS the world and its materialistic messiahs Moses freedom EGYPT JEREMIAH FREEDOM BABYLON CYRUS THE GREAT BABYLON CHRIST GREEK ROME the church wants to J THE GAULISH GOD ESUS OR HESUS bastardisation of christos GREEK church ROMAN CHURCH is keeping it commercial. God reminding us eternally WHO HIS SON IS.I know in the beginning it was ,WAS THE WORD notice not IS the word. I have no issues with names u own a gun your a gunfighter u own a piano your a pianist you own a book its in the scriptures book of jeremiah chapter 10 some heavy timber being cut.GREECE ORTHODOX HEATHENS HELL-ENISTIC kristos In this context "Chresto" is mentioned. Some scholars see this as a likely reference to J -esus Chrestos in Pagan Antiquity

In reality, the term "Chrestos" or ??????? has been used in association with a plethora of people and gods, beginning centuries before the common era. Chrestos and its plural chrestoi were utilized to describe deities, oracles, philosophers, priests, oligarchs, "valuable citizens," slaves, heroes, the deceased and others. Importantly, chrestos appears to have been the title of "perfected saints" in various mystery schools or brotherhoods, associated with oracular activity in particular.

This word ??????? or chrestos appears in ancient Greek sources such as those of playwright Sophocles (497/6-406/5 BCE), who discusses ? ???????, "the good man," in Antigone (520). Also composed during the fifth century BCE and containing numerous instances of chrestos are playwright Euripides's works Heraclidae, Hecuba, Troiades and Iphigenia. Other ancient writers such as Herodotus, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Xenophon, Pseudo-Xenophon, Plato, Isocrates, Aeschines, Demosthenes, Plutarch and Appian likewise use this term chrestos or "good," sometimes quite often. In an anonymous tract discovered among the possessions of historian Xenophon (c. 430–354), the "Old Oligarch," modernly styled Pseudo-Xenophon (fl. c. 425), contrasts "the good man" (chrestos) with "the wicked man" (poneros), a common juxtaposition throughout classical antiquity that found its way into the New Testament as well (e.g., Lk 6:35).

Socrates the Chrestos

The fact that Plato (424/423-348/347 BCE) frequently mentions "the good" (???????) when discussing various figures (e.g., Plat. Rep. 5.479a) serves as an indication of the word's importance among philosophers and religionists. This association is especially germane considering the exalted place afforded Plato among spiritual seekers for centuries into the common era, including many Christians and assorted "Neoplatonists." Indeed, Plato (Theaetetus 166.a.2) uses the word to describe famed philosopher Socrates: ? ???????? ? ??????? - "Socrates the Good."

"In the fifth century BCE, Plato referred to the famous Greek philosopher of Athens as 'Socrates the Chrest.' The religious is God righteous or what.

There follows a very edifying recitation of history.


Most scholars assume that the disturbances mentioned by Suetonius in the passage were due to the spread of Christianity in Rome.[22] These disturbances were likely caused by the objections of Jewish community to the continued preachings by Hellenistic Jews in Rome and their insistence that Jesus was the Messiah, resulting in tensions with the Jews in Rome.[18][30]
Some scholars think Suetonius was confused and assumed that as the leader of the agitators, Chrestus, was alive and lived in Rome at the time of the expulsion.[11][30] The notion that Chrestus was instigating Jewish unrest suggests that the Chrestus reference is not a Christian interpolation, for a Christian scribe would be unlikely to think of the followers of Christ as Jews, or place him in Rome at the time of Claudius.Should real Pagan Rome be afraid nope feed some lions and chase knowledge.

Allodial illuminates us with more history, but extends some useful advisement about approaching prayerfully, (in trust) rather than carefully. So not to exceed 10,000 characters I am going to comment in the next post.

Continued...

David Merrill
04-27-16, 11:13 AM
I would tread more prayerfully than carefully. There were many named 'Jesus'. Consider that the Talmudic stories about a son of Pantera didn't necessarily exist until the 2nd century A.D. Some if not many or most might fail to realize the link to the name at Exodus 3:14 which was put there for a reason. The names Hosea and perhaps even Isaiah are related to the discussion. The Hebrew/Chaldee/Phoenician words for savior and deliverer are 'yeh-shah' and 'howshea'. Add 'yeh' or the like to the beginning of 'howshea' and you get 'yeh+howshea' which is hardly a slur. However "Yehushuah " perhaps you have a point. Referring to someone as a bastard isn't a slur? A bastard according to whose standard?

In Hebrew/Chaldee/Phoenician the tidbit "shua" can connote: "sink or be bowed down, or humbled". However 'shea' is sometimes transliterated to 'shua'. 'shaua' refers to a 'cry for help'. However 'yeshua' means 'salvation' (rel. fem. noun). Also related are: shoa (free man or noble), yesha (salvation) and teshua (deliverance/salvation).

As for hijinx concerning names and name games of concealing true names, that some ancient Babylonians had complexes over the truth and were prone to demand to be worshiped and prostrated to seems plain in the historical record. No surprise at all if their progeny seem to follow suit. How much from Babylon can be deemed to be reliable? How do first and second century interpretations somehow manage to trump thousands of years of Ancient Old Dynasty Egyptian (remember Moses wrote using ancient Egyptian words) and Hebrew teachings and writings?

The Hidden Nebuchadnezzar and Antiochus IV Connection
Also, one might do well to consider the Idumean attack on Israel (FROM WITHIN) and subsequent taking of Judea (with the help of Rome and Pompey) then capture of the Temple (130BC to 0AD ) and destruction (70AD) in view of your model concerning Nebuchadnezzar [two hundred years vs twenty]. The coming of the one predicated by Israel in Genesis was purposed to thwart Babylonian-Edomite attempts at 'taking heaven' (they couldn't do it by way of the Tower, so they went after the Temple and the Holy of Holies (as a gateway or portal)). All of such preceded by Antiochus IV Epiphanes who besieged the Jerusalem temple and slaughtered a pig there. The same Idumeans (Herodian line) helped siege the Jerusalem temple YET AGAIN ~63 B.C. But that is what Antiocus IV did only a 100 years or so before. Pompey (Roman general) with Hyrcanus (Herodian) help overcome Aristobulus and eventually himself entered the Holy of Holies too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%2863_BC%29)!

The problem for the Babylonians is that they weren't necessarily experts in Egyptian. They have attempted to claim origination of that which was written in a language which predates Babylon: fail.



It was an Idumean army that arrived in 68AD. How 'convenient' that the details of the 60 AD to 70AD periods have been left out of the discussion in "Christian churches" for so long. So begs the question: how can the "Jews" (Judeans, those of the house of Judah) that rejected Jesus and who were either taken into captivity or slaughtered at Jerusalem also be the very same "Jews" (Idumeans) who brought an army against Jerusalem together with the Romans? Mind you: Israel was predominantly in captivity or exile at the time.



The main persons arguing are the ones aiming to deny the truth or to overlay (cover) it with something else. Consider those who deny Edomite Herod's slaughter of the Innocents when ancient 350BC text written in latin (for which, 'conveniently', English translations are hardly available online except behind a pricey paywall or campus restricted context) that records Augustus responding to the news of the Slaughter of Innocents perpetrated by Herod and saying that he'd rather be a pig (hus) than one of Herod's sons (huios) (some leave out the text about the slaughter of infants under the age of two years, again, 'conveniently'). When leaders of a religion, philosophy or political system deliberately mislead 'followers' even to the extent of omitting over 160 years from the calendar--for the purpose of concealing the truth--, how reliable can their testimony be? What is there then to argue? Lies vs truth. Yielding to the truth yields fruit, no arguments then.

Consider those who spend lots of time hiding Middle Eastern artifacts in order to thwart proof of Bible historical accuracy. Not to mention that Joseph (Imnhotep) wasn't just an imaginary symbolic figure--he really lived and the evidence is all over the place. Who is arguing but those who want a different 'truth'. If those who tell us that its "all relative" really believed that--they would leave others alone, but they don't tend to unless checked.




Related:

Yeshua In the Tanakh (The Name of JESUS in the Old Testament) (http://www.menorah.org/yeshname.html)
The Appearance of Christ in A.D. 68 (http://revelationrevolution.org/the-appearance-of-christ-in-a-d-68/)



Back to MJ's opening sentence:


arguments over historical accuracy rarely if ever yield any fruit.


Yet we all study history in order to communicate on the "same page". In the opening videos the studied historian met with somebody in the Q&A reciting a contradiction, You and I read different books.

And so I can get to my point - to reconcile Michael Joseph's approach in a manner so to be edifying, and for the right to be right not to be violated. - Or at least only infringed upon.

There is a point in the Bible, as I study it, that the allegorical metaphor takes over. A rib taken out of Adam and fabricated with dust into Eve is a bit difficult for me to swallow literally. Here again I need to bow homage to carbon-dating; history. The evidence of Jesus being a man who lived in and around Israel and the accounting of the political climate brings the history, fact, law and truth to life for me. Five years of A Course in Miracles without any direct reading of Ken WAPNICK, who commercialized the work product of LSD dosing by Bill THETFORD on victim Helen SCHUCKMAN taught me well that we do not all simply disperse to find our own truths (plural) or even to experience the obvious, that we all settle for the Truth (objective) from our individual perspectives. The Voice of Jesus, directly channeled through Helen by such objective double-blind and scientific means makes it clear on several occasions that there is only One Objective Truth to be found; best expressed that God is Love and to find God one needs to Forgive.

The premise about this Objective Truth is that Communication and Creation are synonyms and so therefore what we are up to here is communicating/creating. In the next sentence or two the Voice explains that only beings of like Order can truly Communicate. This is interesting that we have simultaneously the Thread about Pay to the Order of... (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?2142-Pay-to-the-Order-of&p=21515&viewfull=1#post21515)

So I was setting in a restaurant with a man, whom I admire his transforms. He is actually the glue holding together the unfathomable manufacturing process of near-infinitely complex machinery. In other words, he interfaces with mechanics and engineers who have never worked in their garages, on their cars. The normal transforms operate in subsets and subsystems that are in turn so complex that they "specialize". This engineer specializes in general. So I feel a certain kinship with this fellow, in that he is invaluable but feared, as the people who need him do not understand why they need him, or how his mind works so that he can actually dance around in genius, completely immune to the finite boundaries of "discipline".

But as I returned to the table he took time to thank me for all he had learned, mostly here, from my writings. That meant the world at the moment. Still does.

So to throw in the towel that we may all seek our own truth strikes me as the cop out resorted to in ACIM when confronted with the National Security Archives reports in MK-ULTRA declassified sub-projects proving Bill was dosing Helen with LSD - "That is your truth, David Merrill." Actually they like to call me Planet, for Planet Merrill so that I can more easily be dismissed.

I propose that this does nothing to avoid the emotional confrontation, only postpones the altercation while we both quietly build our arsenals with more and more history. I say it is better to accept only one objective history and forgive ourselves and each other so immediately we no longer even detect differences in our perceptions as attacks on each other.

David Merrill
04-27-16, 11:29 AM
P.S. Thank you Allodial;


Your library is quite admirable I am sure. You have clarified a few crucial points for me. It may be tainted with projection but my intuitive interpretation of the Book of Mark through Christianity Explored stands intact. You cast aspersions on Babylonian and Nebuchadnezzar interpretations wisely. [A man attributed with changing names and even altering the alphabet, disabling communication, is to be watched closely regarding his honor.] I however still honor the Prophet Daniel BELTESHAZZAR mostly out of NASA's SkyGlobe freeware showing these celestial events actually were happening, and even then, they depict a different story than adopted by the Constantine Christians.

In that demonstrates the need for Keys. - Which is Michael Joseph's bailiwick as I understand things. MJ has a wonderful gift of describing the Keys found in the Information concealed in parable and other allegorical metaphor.

My thanks is extended to all three of you.

allodial
04-27-16, 12:40 PM
Re: Disabling communications

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyjJbhuwGkU

Back in the 80s and 70s on, in "African-American" media one would find discussions of topics even on talk radio that were unheard of in MSM then but now are widely discussed or mentioned on Youtube and blogs. Its interesting how the psychology used to disregard a community or a group might really work against the group who disregards because self-disabling of communication to the extent that that kind of truth or talk fails to reach one's ears possible to detriment. Among the same it was mentioned how the Romans changed the Zodiacs and attempted to revise Astrology to conceal the underlying truths. Once upon a time, I happened upon Mazzaroth or, the Constellations by a Frances Rolleston. Always nice to have an actual ancient book and a grain of salt to take with something you hear on talk radio. That is to say: Frances Rolleston's book was an excellent find (http://philologos.org/__eb-mazzaroth/)IMHO.

So take something like segregation that came to Tulsa in the 1890s. Was segregation really about disabling communications? Buildings were burned, businesses were destroyed ...eventually (come 1921). Adversarial disabling of communications might lurk in places we might not suspect.

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2214&d=1422696360
The Moscow library known as INION—the Institute of Scientific Information on Social Sciences—went up in flames on the evening of Jan. 29, 2015 A.D (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1407-Moscow-Library-On-Fire-Contains-Rare-Documents).


You cast aspersions on Babylonian and Nebuchadnezzar interpretations wisely. [A man attributed with changing names and even altering the alphabet, disabling communication, is to be watched closely regarding his honor.]

Consider, they couldn't even make solid and true interpretations without Daniel's help--he had keys. The spirit of God being key to the adequate interpretation rather than human intellect. Though the Spirit can lead one's intellect and intuition to the right references, etc. upon which to build formidable foundations.


Yet we all study history in order to communicate on the "same page".

Surveys are made with reference points. Without cornerstones or landmarks, what use are they. Thus, the Bolsheviks and the like attack meaning--even the meaning of 'cornerstones' or landmarks--again 'disabling communications'.


There is a point in the Bible, as I study it, that the allegorical metaphor takes over. A rib taken out of Adam and fabricated with dust into Eve is a bit difficult for me to swallow literally.

The basis is very scientific and widely appreciated among certain Islamic sects. In the body of a man, where does blood originate? In the very marrow itself. It is said that blood is the life of the body. Blood cells, in fact are intelligent or intelligently regulated to the extent that broken bones and wounds in the skin are repaired in this manner: a blood cell approaching the injured area will shed its hemoglobin and other 'parcels' to revert back to undifferentiated cell (primordial...stem cell) and then take on the characteristics needed to repair the breech. It is the blood itself that repairs the breech. I, like Poncaire (?), came to the realization of this process. Every cell has some element of the nerve system in it. The kind of modern stem cell research is about robbing fetuses when stem cells are produced readily in the body. But shhhhhh 'don't tell anyone'.

P.S. What bone that is a strong source of marrow can you take out of a man's body without crippling, hobbling or disfiguring him in some way? Vertebrae? Finger bone? Femur? Jaw? Skull portion? Pelvis? One of the ribs? Unlike other bones in the body, there is something very unique to ribs and the periosteum (i.e. the surrounding tissue). If you look into the use of ribs in bone grafts, you might find some very interesting information.

Michael Joseph
04-27-16, 01:13 PM
allodial,

your comment about blocking the sun does not go unnoticed in my camp. when I find a writing or book that I deem very educational, in my house, we get it printed in black/white. The day may come when electronic devices may be disabled. Already folks have access to the "global brain" thru the use of their hand [cell phones - computers] the days come when there may exist a neural network. But any technology is completely dependent upon maintenance and administration. And that of course begs trust in the administration.

David Merrill,

I teach that the Crown holds the beneficial interest in the 2nd Testamentary Trust established under Unam Sanctum. Therefore any claim in Jubilee that I issue will also notice the triune city-states [London, Washington, Vatican]. I may even notice the Administrators of the original grant the Franciscans.

Three different men told me they were reading Leviticus 26 yesterday morning - as was I. Amazing.

IMHO to try to understand faith by and thru the senses, science or philosophy is to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I need only the following verse to confirm my position.



Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb_HrTBjwJI

No claim - no benefit. Funny how diligent are some to study man's codes to set themselves free [find remedy] but then they have zero knowledge of the Divine Law. There is no Canon Law absent Divine Law. A great key for those who recognize the season.

Shalom,
MJ

Quoting Swendenborg as follows:

In ancient times those were called "serpents" who had more confidence in sensuous things than in revealed ones. But it is still worse at the present day, for now there are persons who not only disbelieve everything they cannot see and feel, but who also confirm themselves in such incredulity by knowledges (scientifica) unknown to the ancients, and thus occasion in themselves a far greater degree of blindness. In order that it may be known how those blind themselves, so as afterwards to see and hear nothing, who form their conclusions concerning heavenly matters from the things of sense, of memory-knowledge, and of philosophy, and who are not only "deaf serpents," but also the "flying serpents" frequently spoken of in the Word, which are much more pernicious, we will take as an example what they believe about the spirit.

[2] The sensuous man, or he who only believes on the evidence of his senses, denies the existence of the spirit because he cannot see it, saying, "It is nothing because I do not feel it: that which I see and touch I know exists." The man of memory-knowledge (scientificus), or he who forms his conclusions from memory-knowledges (scientiae), says, What is the spirit, except perhaps vapor or heat, or some other entity of his science, that presently vanishes into thin air? have not the animals also a body, senses, and something analogous to reason? and yet it is asserted that these will die, while the "spirit of man" will live. Thus they deny the existence of the spirit.

[3] Philosophers also, who would be more acute than the rest of mankind, speak of the spirit in terms which they themselves do not understand, for they dispute about them, contending that not a single expression is applicable to the spirit which derives anything from what is material, organic, or extended; thus they so abstract it from their ideas that it vanishes from them, and becomes nothing. The more sane however assert that the spirit is thought; but in their reasonings about thought, in consequence of separating from it all substantiality, they at last conclude that it must vanish away when the body expires. Thus all who reason from the things of sense, of memory-knowledge, and of philosophy, deny the existence of the spirit, and therefore believe nothing of what is said about the spirit and spiritual things. Not so the simple in heart: if these are questioned about the existence of spirit, they say they know it exists, because the Lord has said that they will live after death; thus instead of extinguishing their rational, they vivify it by the Word of the Lord.

allodial
04-27-16, 01:21 PM
your comment about blocking the sun does not go unnoticed in my camp. when I find a writing or book that I deem very educational, in my house, we get it printed in black/white. The day may come when electronic devices may be disabled. Already folks have access to the "global brain" thru the use of their hand [cell phones - computers] the days come when there may exist a neural network. But any technology is completely dependent upon maintenance and administration. And that of course begs trust in the administration.

There is a survivalist forum where guys discussed printing books in super tiny 2pt to 4pt print (http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=52204) in order to preserve them. Though electronic, you might appreciate Apache Solr (http://lucene.apache.org/solr/) for creating local search engines for PDFs, ebooks and the like for your private library.

Michael Joseph
04-27-16, 01:47 PM
There is a survivalist forum where guys discussed printing books in super tiny 2pt to 4pt print (http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=52204) in order to preserve them. Though electronic, you might appreciate Apache Solr (http://lucene.apache.org/solr/) for creating local search engines for PDFs, ebooks and the like for your private library.

wow thanks for the link to Apache Solr.

David Merrill
04-27-16, 02:06 PM
Interesting! A library in contemplation of necessity. One might use the last few charges of a notebook to load up a few thumbdrives and pass them on to family and friends. I thank you too for the link.

I believe you know MJ that I am taking the Jubilee literally, by and large on your intuitive enthusiasm.

David Merrill
04-27-16, 03:36 PM
Albeit Teunis Jansen Laenan VAN PELT piloted (chartered) the Red Tree (Rosebaum) carrying seventy souls to Manhattan, it becomes questionable if he actually made claim as Patroon. He apparently already held quite an estate on Brooklyn at the time of the sailing. Therefore immunity from the British (hostile) takeover of the Dutch East Indies Trading Company, and then followed by an unorganized anointing of young Peter VAN PELT after the Revolutionary War might actually represent a new, prior solution to the authority problem.

What I am getting at is that George might have been preserving a claim that precedes the Charter of 1629?


3950

In other words, where would the authority to grant a perpetual inheritance come from? Is this not Adam's prerogatory? - To name things?

3951

3952

David Merrill
04-27-16, 05:03 PM
Big surprise! [On Planet Merrill they are getting rare.]




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xparte
04-27-16, 07:32 PM
Religious mentioned arguments over historical accuracy rarely if ever yield any fruit.again the seed who plants his-story the highest and the lowest seed free will inheritance gardening I have faith in God in the fact historically no man is greater than God. Mans historic fear the Christ teachings however churched are received only as instruction pathways not journals become narrative the entire thread lends entitlement and endorsement for a greater knowing or how di/agnostic ones religious beliefs might be obstructions. Too beware of greeks mythology bearing gifts Ethical and ethnicity all from the same seed.When the word Christ is used remedying kingdoms make mine the one without any historical documentation Jesus Christ needs no better truth then the declaration and worship of false idolatrous NAMES scripture is the journeys end for this kingdom .Babylon is that churched kingdom messiahs for this kingdom are golden eggs.I will take a passover on the pagan hoarding of material and the wisdoms imparted from a ROMAN GRECO basket. We should remember only the voice as identification eternal my voice I am.

David Merrill
04-27-16, 07:58 PM
Yes. A man good for his word - I AM.

Michael Joseph
04-27-16, 08:05 PM
Interesting! A library in contemplation of necessity. One might use the last few charges of a notebook to load up a few thumbdrives and pass them on to family and friends. I thank you too for the link.

I believe you know MJ that I am taking the Jubilee literally, by and large on your intuitive enthusiasm.

I am no longer a religious man in terms of traditions and the sort "touch not, taste not stuff..." but I am deeply Spiritual in terms of Divine Law and Providence under God. I do not adhere to polytheistic models as I believe in a Uni-Verse. The Word.


04/10/2016 08:00 PM EDT 3:40:25 EPISODE307 - DivineMindGroup's Community Call (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-83169/TS-1064834.mp3)

04/17/2016 08:00 PM EDT 3:40:25 EPISODE308 - DivineMindGroup's Community Call (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-83169/TS-1064837.mp3)

04/24/2016 08:00 PM EDT 3:40:25 EPISODE309 - DivineMindGroup's Community Call (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-83169/TS-1064839.mp3)

Background reading - Leviticus 26 and Exodus 21; Zachariah 11; Deuteronomy 32

Yes indeed sir I do take Divine Law quite seriously.

Shalom Brethren,
Michael Joseph

allodial
04-27-16, 08:49 PM
However, to fall for false record (of time, i.e. history meaning the truth of what occurred) is like accepting a counterfeit symphony or a false survey. One would miss the true motifs of God. But then consider that judgment was explained (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-3-19/) in terms of rejection of the truth. RUBIN realized the truth rather than rejecting it, so resigned. Apparently, he was aware of God's motifs--had he embraced alternative history he might have laughed instead to his own chagrin. On that note, some fail to realize that when it comes to "Jews" or Judahites (including those of the Christ's lawful Christians), not all subscribe to the Talmud which was heavily forced upon Sephardim and others by the Ahkenaz.

Is not taking the true record and survey over time lightly much like taking a court record and register lightly? Arguing about the record, bears what fruit? The attack on meaning has been substantial these days. A true prophet edifies.

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Nonetheless, what transpired from 130 BC to 70AD is important to get a grip on. The Idumeans who are penned as being for the most part the 'eternal enemies' of Israel attacked/sacked/seiged Israel prior to waging war on Judah (and Benjamin) with Rome. The distinctions are remarkable. Saved/delivered Israel and Judah exited to safety (salvation) as instructed and exhorted by Jesus when the glory departed from the temple and stood on the Mount of Olives for 3 and 1/2 years or so. Thusly that true Jesus failed to characterize the Worthless Shepherd. Come 68 A.D. Idumeans/Romans/etc. began to surround Jerusalem and judgment against Judah was waged. Those who had rejected Jesus were slaughtered or taken into captivity (Flavius Josephus was one of them). The idea of Judah judging Judah makes how much sense? If one takes Idumeans as being Judah then that is the kind of logic one would be embracing.


And the king of Babylon slew the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes: he slew also all the princes of Judah in Riblah. Then he put out the eyes of Zedekiah; and the king of Babylon bound him in chains, and carried him to Babylon, and put him in prison till the day of his death. Jeremiah 52:10-11

If one takes a look, one might find that the problems faced by Israel during Hezekiah's time was in trying to render Israel as a secular (secular humanist?) and carnal state. Making alliances with Egypt and Assyria rather than seeking God was a big mistake. This left them vulnerable to adversaries. Look at America and Europe today after being coaxed to rely on science rather than God.


Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.

Thusly the importance of being prayerful rather than careful.

Related:
The Most Significant Gentile Nation In the Bible (http://www.askelm.com/prophecy/p060701.htm)

allodial
04-27-16, 09:46 PM
Interesting! A library in contemplation of necessity. One might use the last few charges of a notebook to load up a few thumbdrives and pass them on to family and friends. I thank you too for the link.

I believe you know MJ that I am taking the Jubilee literally, by and large on your intuitive enthusiasm.

Not sure if you've seen it, but the movie titled The Book of Eli was about libraries and books.

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I teach that the Crown holds the beneficial interest in the 2nd Testamentary Trust established under Unam Sanctum.

Each of the British colonies had a separate Crown. New Zealand has its own Crown. The UK has its own Crown. In some regards there isn't a single "Crown". IMHO one of the biggest hijinx in America was in convincing the people that no Crown or equivalent exists. To look at the British Crown as being the only Crown anywhere is a big mistake in the form of a distraction.


Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Rev. 3:11

On a higher level: the idea of the crown always being out there and across the Atlantic vs. Revelations 3:11.


No claim - no benefit. Funny how diligent are some to study man's codes to set themselves free [find remedy] but then they have zero knowledge of the Divine Law. There is no Canon Law absent Divine Law. A great key for those who recognize the season.

There was an attorney from what I recall who posted on his website that Canon Law was based on Templar trust law. Even more profound when one realizes that the organic Christ's lawful assembly and the Roman Church aren't necessarily synonymous though one may allegedly have been or may be part of the other (obviously the Christ's lawful assembly wasn't a subset of the Roman Church).

David Merrill
04-27-16, 10:27 PM
I might be kinda quiet... It would seem worthwhile to read thoughtfully for a bit.

xparte
04-29-16, 08:46 PM
I teach that the Crown holds the beneficial interest in the 2nd Testamentary Trust established under Unam Sanctum.To look at the British Crown as being the only Crown anywhere is a big mistake in the form of a distraction.© Her Majesty the Queen in Right of Canada, 2012
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No claim - no benefit. Funny how diligent are some to study man's codes to set themselves free [find remedy] but then they have zero knowledge of the Divine Law. There is no Canon Law absent Divine Law. A great key for those who recognize the season. April 30—22 Nissan
Final Day of Passover—Acharon Shel Pesach And [as for] the Levite who is in your cities you shall not forsake him, for he has neither portion nor inheritance with you.
At the end of three years, you shall take out all the tithe of your crop in that year and place it in your cities.
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allodial
04-30-16, 05:38 PM
Her Majesty the Queen in Right of Canada, 2012

One man holding the office of president in 30 countries might leave the impression of a single presidential office although the offices be in fact separate offices. The Queen of New Zealand, the Queen of Australia, the Queen of Canada are separate offices. If a crown goes on a queen's head how can she be that which she wears on her head? Who is the utmost source of power and authority: (1) the crowned, (2) the one who puts the crown on the head of the one crowned, or (3) the one who owns the crown.

Re: Unam Sanctum

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It is said that when some of the Templars were captured and queried, eventually they allegedly admitted that they worshiped "Baphomet" and that such may have been misunderstood in that they really instead were saying "Mahomet" (Mohammed). Though yet still it is alleged that among certain secret societies, statues of Baphomet are common. Anyways, taken with 'rumors' of Freemasons saying that they outwardly pretend to be "Christians" or "Judahites" but secretly are Islamists and putting that together with history, an interesting picture emerges. No surprise Islam is being promoted if not forced or coerced in Europe and throughout the Levant. The Simonian syncretism is errantly mistaken for the "Real McCoy" or the original doctrinal system.

It must be understood that "Christian" is what Judeans and former-Gentiles that continued the house of Judah with Jesus/Yeshua were called at Antioch but they were otherwise known as "holy ones". However, doctrine of those that were called Christians extended back to before the time of Abraham but cannot be attributed to Abraham's native society FOR HE WAS CALLED OUT AND SET APART FROM THEM. It was a continuation because it was the Hebrew/Abrahamic/Melchizedek belief systems and those clearly predate the existence of Rome and Babylon and have more to do with Old Dynastic Egypt than with Babylon or Rome. The idea of Rome originating these things just seems to boggle the mind that such an idea could even be entertained. Melchizedek and Abraham lived before Nebuchadnezzar. Rome wasn't established until 753 BC or so. Rome is similar to Amor or Amorite backwards, and is said to have been partly established by Romulus and Remus ("Sumer" spelled backwards). Rome was moreso associated with the Etruscan belief system before the Babylon-Rome merger after Attalus II and under Julius Caesar.

In the book The People That History Forgot, Erwin L. Martin lucidates that Babylonian and Simonian doctrines and ideas drifted Westward. So while I make zero statements for or against a particular religion or political system here, a key point is that, claiming something originated something else when it is clearly false is offensive and deceptive: that Rome or Babylon originated organic Israelite/Judahite Hebrew/Melchizedek-associated Christianity, clearly that could not be the case. As for Simonianism or Islam, that is up to the reader to investigate. The "pesky" facts matter simple because lies are not true. The one named at Exodus 3:14 clearly didn't have a penchant for strange gods and syncretism: he has warned consistently of the dangers of sycnretism and the consequences (see: conflict of laws) thereof.

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Before Rome Was...
It must be understood that before Roman Catholic missionaries made it to Africa, the British Isles and the area called India (afaik an Ethiopian or Egyptian province), Israelite/Judahite Hebrew/Melchizedek-associated Christianity was already established in those places (https://archive.org/details/churchhistoryofe00gedd). Again, the point isn't about being for or against this or that: it is truth of the record because again if someone is deliberately telling lies or evidences being deluded then the reliability of their words or doctrines can be considered soundly.

The Templar Inns and Mosques
The Templars as the scans allude weren't associated with the law schools of the English churches but of the law schools associated with Mosques. So again, you see why Islam is being promoted in Europe. But it is also important to see where Islam originated. The historical record alludes to Crusaders making a change of religion (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1457-Allah-The-Moon-God&p=16873&viewfull=1#post16873). (Related: The Dark History of the Templars (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/templars/knights_templars01.htm))

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He answered and hath said, `Lo, I am seeing four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the appearance of the fourth [is] like to a son of the gods.' Daniel 3:25 (YLT)

According to the Book of Daniel, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar and his trusteeship had limits. He had tried to get the saints to worship him, to bow down to him. That was ultra vires and a major no-no. But "one like the Son God" intervened. The "one like the Son of God" existed before Rome existed. Rome did not create him. Even if Nebuchadnezzar or any modern-day counterpart claimed to be the origination or creator of the Son of God or of the man in the fire at Daniel 3:25 in order to attain worship by association-and-proxy, would such a claim necessarily be true?

Re: Syncretism and Idols
While one can apologize for idols and symbol worship, exactly what liability might such apologists incur for re-installing a veil in the temple in place of that which was removed or torn asunder? And by whose authority would such a veil be re-installed?


Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. --Matthew 27:50-54

The scriptures refer to God separating of light and darkness. Who then are those who make a hobby of undoing that separation?

David Merrill
05-01-16, 02:20 PM
Failing to judge the Separation undoes it.


If a crown goes on a queen's head how can she be that which she wears on her head? Who is the utmost source of power and authority: (1) the crowned, (2) the one who puts the crown on the head of the one crowned, or (3) the one who owns the crown.

My Crown was to forgive Ken WAPNICK as John, who commercialized A Course in Miracles (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImMnN1c2NEU292UmM/view?usp=sharing) knowing that Bill was dosing Helen with LSD.

My "quiet spell" has my synchronously pondering the question. There is little or no record that the Van Pelt Manor was on a Patroon Patent like Killian RENSELLAER of August 13, 1630. So I too wonder who had the authority to designate the land as a perpetual inheritance in the 1629 Charter.


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This strikes me the same as my taking all the courses for being a Licensed Practitioner in Science of Mind but when it came down to it, I never intended to get the license. So Teunis Jansen Laenan VAN PELT chartered/piloted the Red Tree with seventy souls, qualifying but maybe never requested any licensing from the Dutch East Indies or any other Trading Company?

The Papal Bull comes from Prosbul. This is a Talmudic term for a respected Rabbi to change God's Law. I believe that will unlock some more Keys to unravel a few more mysteries. When we read the anglicized "Bull" we might have connotations about the animal or even its excrement. One thing done away by Prosbul shortly after the life of Jesus was the Jubilee, the seven year Release of Deuteronomy 15:1 specifically. There were only a few significant rabbinic prosbuls.

Michael Joseph will be particularly interested I think. I will look around for what I saved many years back. My point is that any law passed against the scriptures is null and void. Therefore why pursue a license to accommodate such law? So this Papal Bull does not have any authority, just the physical base force found in a china shop.

David Merrill
05-02-16, 12:59 AM
P.S. Where does it become Adam blessed with the authority of nomenclature. (SPELLS.)

Michael Joseph
05-02-16, 02:44 AM
Michael Joseph will be particularly interested I think. I will look around for what I saved many years back. My point is that any law passed against the scriptures is null and void. Therefore why pursue a license to accommodate such law? So this Papal Bull does not have any authority, just the physical base force found in a china shop.

There is no Canon Law absent Divine Law. And therefore there are no other law forms is there is no Canon Law. It is simple, if vicar, then perform your office. If no performance of the office, then default judgment. You ever heard of a Resulting Trust? Think about that for a moment. No really stop and really think about the foregoing for a moment. And then read Hosea 4:6 to its entirety.

Divine law is over and above the law of the air (Cannon), the law of the water (Merchant/Admiralty) and the law of the land (National Constitutional)

The Fiat dollar is not based on just Faith, it is backed by Indentures from your ancestors that are UNPAID... If you do not come out of your earthly Father's house, the sins of the Fathers are visited on you.

Read between the lines - Legal Name = Given Name + Surname.

Who will say RESTORE? Isaiah 42:22. Those ten toes are destined to be hit by a Stone. For the Beast had Seven heads [Religions] and ten crowns [ten family dynasties].....

Can the child within my heart rise above? I will stake a claim upon which relief may be granted. For my King is Yehoshuah - there is no power but of God. What will you do Onesimus? And how will Philemon receive you? If poorly says "Paul the Aged" - put it on my account!

The gospel of Christ is the POWER and the WISDOM of God.

Shalom and Blessings,
MJ

David Merrill
05-02-16, 04:08 AM
Here is a link (http://www.come-and-hear.com/gittin/gittin_36.html) to the Prosbul I mentioned.



HILLEL INSTITUTED THE PROSBUL. We have learnt elsewhere: A prosbul prevents the remission of debts [in the Sabbatical year]. This is one of the regulations made by Hillel the Elder. For he saw that people were unwilling to lend money to one another and disregarded the precept laid down in the Torah, Beware that there he not a base thought in thine heart saying, etc. He therefore decided to institute the prosbul. The text of the prosbul is as follows: 'I hand over to you, So-and-so, the judges in such-and-such a place, [my bonds], so that I may be able to recover any money owing to me from So-and-so at any time I shall desire'; and the prosbul was to be signed by the judges or witnesses.

But is it possible that where according to the Torah the seventh year releases Hillel should ordain that it should not release?

allodial
05-02-16, 06:27 AM
The Fiat dollar is not based on just Faith, it is backed by Indentures from your ancestors that are UNPAID...

The fiat dollar (meaning the FRN) is based on floating debentures over persons and things in the district.

Re: Vicars of Christ
Vicar means "instead of" as if Christ or God were dead or absent. Who needs a vicar for someone that is alive and present? Errant AFAIK is the idea that Rome-Babylon defeated Yeshua the Anointed and took over the entire Judahite/Davidic estate and co-regency is contrary to the scriptures (he asserted that the only reason they were able to have at him is because the Father allowed it as part of a plan--he knew what they would do and they played into their own bloodlust). According to the scriptures, the kingdom is conferred on the saints and Christ. A proper grasp on the divine council paradigm, (pre- 70 A.D. concepts of) merkaba and the OT throne motifs (I'm not talking about any post 70AD Talmudic or any Kaballistic writings on Merkaba but the book of Ezekiel, Psalms 82 and the like instead) blows all confusion and boggle out of the water (Eph. 1 & 2). Even the Centurion who had his daughter healed remotely had a firmer grasp on this than others in his day. The strong impression is that the Idumeans or Roman System perceived some kind of co-regency of Yeshua/Jesus with the one named at Exodus 3:14 and figure they owned it as a result of crucifixion/conquest ('capture the society, capture their god'--remember Simon Magus tried to make a purchase of divine power)--thus the mocking signage "King of the Judeans" (what was related to me was that the signage was done because it was intended as a form of 'finalization of conquest'--to somehow seize and possess the Davidic co-regency -> Essau/Edom vs. Jacob/Israel). No doubt, Pilate like his Centurion underling got the gist of this and so he wanted no part of it.

The history of wide-spread killing of non-Roman-Catholic saints/believers perfect makes sense as part of an orchestrated, fully-conscious effort against the divine council's activities on the planet--MEANING THAT SOMEONE IS FULLY AWARE OF WHAT THEY DOING to the extent that are specifically targeting heirs. As things move forward, it is very likely that many will start to see such intense outpourings and manifestations of divine power through the saints.

According to scripture, Jesus Christ and the saints have been in session since the ascension ~30 A.D. Scripturally, such authority was never concentrated in a single man or European or Asian or African monarch or king. 30 A.D. was long before Constantine's time.

BTW, last year or so, a scriptural based spiritual warfare group began praying and interceding to remove witchcraft and sorcery from their region, within a few weeks I noticed that a prominent building associated with a very well-known society went up for sale. It struck me as being far from mere coincidence.

Rome and Persia's Secret
In the 2015 Christmas episode of Arrow, in a casual conversation one character explains Christmas to someone from another reality: that it is a celebration of killing Jesus Christ (of dismissing him--of his (dis)MISSAL)! One might figure she didn't mean what she said but that is what many have said before including but not limited to the creator of a site (christmasisalie.com) about Christmas that is heavily censored. I believe there are very upstanding folks who are Roman Catholics, Protestants and non-Protestants. It may be that some organizations are prone to corruptions that must necessarily be dealt with one way or another.

Every year Nativity Scenes promoting worship and adoration of statutes of the baby Jesus in the manger. Likely, a baby in a manger is a lot easier to handle than a fully-grown divine co-regent with a scepter in his hand along with thousands if not millions sharing the co-regency with him. It has been suggested (https://withmeagrepowers.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/why-the-tearing-of-the-temple-curtain-is-a-bad-thing/) that tearing of the veil meant tearing of the 'protective shield' between the presence of God and those who perpetrated regicide against the divine council: judgement.

Re: Iran and Christmas
Despite all of the fuss about Iran: Christmas trees are put up around December 25th in Iran. Someone shared photos with me. No surprise, if you know where the Christmas tree originated (Persia)! It was illegal to celebrate Christmas in United states of America for the longest time (just maybe because celebrating regicide against the divine council was highly frowned upon and regarded to be abhorrent?)

Re: Isaiah 63
There are those who glean from Isaiah 63 that the text suggests the Messiah in the nativity sense coming from Edom. The impression I get is that the figure's robes is traveling from Edom and his robes are stained with blood because he just Edom visited judgement upon Edom.


For your {you = Edom/Esau afaik} violence against your brother Jacob shame shall cover you , and you shall be cut off for ever. In the day that you stood on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots on Jerusalem, even you were as one of them. But you should not have looked on the day of your brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither should you have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither should you have spoken proudly in the day of distress. Obadiah 1:10-12

While there may have been Idumeans/Edomites who sincerely became Judahites (then they would have become Judahites rather than Idumeans), Obadiah 1:10-12 is referring to Edom. I am very much reminded of the Idumeans helping Rome and Ptolemy (who was over Egypt at the time, thus highly suggestive of "king of the south") with the seiges of Jeruslem, Israel and Judah from 130AD to 70AD. At that time, were not the Idumeans as "one of them" as in allegedly part of Judah and also as "one of them" among the strangers laying siege around 70AD? Did not the Roman soldiers cast lots at the crucifixion? Were not the Herodians and company considering how they would divvy up Judah and Israel? Is Edom doing the same thing to the saints this very day? (Related: Has the world ‘looked the other way’ while Christians are killed? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/07/has-the-world-looked-the-other-way-while-christians-are-killed/); 100 Years Ago, 1.5 Million Christian Armenians Were Systematically Killed. Today, It’s Still Not A ‘Genocide’ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/23/armenian-genocide-controversy_n_7121008.html); Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union)).

War Against the Saints
War against the saints might just be intended to be war against the divine council. If the book of Enoch has any validity, then it might be giving clues as to who or whose progeny would have the propensity to wage such a war.

xparte
05-03-16, 03:58 AM
The image of the spiritual world in physical institutions, that is, the state which exists here on earth, but which is really an image of heavenly facts and personalities, but not a true image. Justified platitudes, physical institutions or imperialism as within the world of platitudes everything can be affirmed. Therefore the inner impulse to imperialism exists. People observe things very superficially. The king's will is sublime law what did it mean? It meant that he expressed himself in the age of platitudes. In MANS first society it was really the case that the ruler's will was highest law. The concept of rights, which includes the right of free speech, BUT involves lawyers and courts, is essentially a characteristic of that highest CROWNED law. Now just the legal platitudes.or aspects and words appear,IMAGE OF CROWN one can argue and discuss what are rights and the legal system in public discourse.There is no Canon Law absent Divine Law.
In the age of the platitudes,everything can be affirmed however, understanding of what is necessary for rights in society is completely lost: on that the spiritual kingdom shines through into the physical kingdom is the two thieves on the cross Christ is that balance evident that one thief representing materialistically and physical law and bad choices and redemption is still a choice. Platitudes this definition of the law is Woodrow Wilson's “The law is the will of the state in respect to those citizens who are bound by it.” So the state unfolds a will! One can well imagine that someone who is embedded so strongly in abstract idealism, not to mention materialism — for they are practically the same — can claim that the state is supposed to have a will. He would have to have lost all sense of reality to even conceive of such a thing let alone write it down. But it is in this book the codex of platitudes: The State, Elements of Historical and Practical Politics.
Wilson also says in this book he German Empire after he describes how the efforts to found it were finally successful in 1870/71. “The final incentive for achievement of complete national unity was brought about by the German-French war of 1870/71. Prussia's brilliant success in this struggle, fought in the interest of German patriotism against French impertinence, caused the cool restraint of the central states towards their powerful neighbor in the north to end; they united with the rest of Germany and the German Empire was founded in the royal palace at Versailles on January 18, 1871.” The same man wrote that who a short time later in Versailles united with those whose impertinence had once been the motivation for the founding of the German Empire. Much of present day public opinion derives from the fact that people are so terribly superficial and pay no attention to the facts. If you decide to decide according to objective information, then things look quite different from what is propounded in public and accepted by thousands upon thousands of people. It wouldn't have hurt one bit if when Woodrow Wilson arrived in Paris in glory, praised from all sides, if these remarks had been held up to him. to take the facts into account, which means also the truth.

Catholic Church Cannon solidifies into a kind of spiritual imperialism, as for example in the 11th century when the Monks of Cluny [Cluny Abbey] really ruled over Europe more than is thought. From their ranks the powerful, imperialistic Pope Gregory VII emerged. Therefore Roman Catholic dogma enables the priest to feel greater than Christ, because he can force him to be present at the altar. This clearly shows that the institution of the Catholic Church is a relic, as that image of what once existed is Mans very first imperialism.
This new economic imperialism Woodrow Wilson would no longer speak of the will of the
Church, but he speaks of the will of the State as being self-evident. But the state only had the importance attributed to it from this relic Whereas once Church was all-powerful, Now the state contains everything that was attributed to the Church.

Thus the economic imperialism Crown
this concept of the state must take the same road the concept of the Church has traveled. a mere rights institution, and force everything else into this rights institution, just as the Church has kingdom of platitudes under which only economic imperialism glimmers The economy is auto- administered, the political state is no longer the absolute, all-inclusive entity, but is exclusively concerned with rights alone, and spiritual/cultural life is truly free,
Suddenly from the imperialism of platitudes comes the idea that it would be good if the queen of England also has the title “Empress of India.” One can invent the most beautiful reasons for this, but if it didn't happen, nothing would have changed. The Emperor of Austria, who now belongs to the deposed royalty, before he was chased out carried around along with his other titles a most unusual one: Franz Joseph I, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, Dalmatia, Croatia, Slovenia, Galizia, Lodomeria, Illyia and so on. Among all these titles was also “King of Jerusalem!” The Austrian Emperor also carried, until he was no longer emperor, the title “King of Jerusalem.” It came from the crusades. It would be impossible to give a better example of meaninglessness than this. And such meaninglessness plays a much greater role than you imagine. Constipated with platitudes. in certain sense we have reached the climax of platitudes.
But the attraction for illusion is especially strong in the age of platitudes. We wish so to sweep away the seriousness of life. We avoid looking at the truth inherent in our evolution. How could people let themselves be deceived by Wilsonian ideas if they really had the intense desire for truthful clarity? It must come. The desire for truth must grow in humanity. Above all, we desire for the liberation of spiritual/cultural life must grow along with the knowledge a Man who has not grasped “My kingdom is not of this world.” not physical invisible of material .
kingdom of Christ must become an invisible kingdom, a truly invisible empire, an empire of which one speaks as of invisible things. Spiritual people speak of this empire. Not some church, not some state, not some economic empire can create this empire. Only the will of the individual who lives a liberated spiritual/cultural life can create this empire. A platitude is a trite, meaningless, or prosaic statement, generally directed at quelling social, emotional, or cognitive unease.

David Merrill
05-03-16, 09:28 AM
The image of the spiritual world in physical institutions, that is, the state which exists here on earth, but which is really an image of heavenly facts and personalities, but not a true image. Justified platitudes, physical institutions or imperialism as within the world of platitudes everything can be affirmed. Therefore the inner impulse to imperialism exists. People observe things very superficially. The king's will is sublime law what did it mean? It meant that he expressed himself in the age of platitudes. In MANS first society it was really the case that the ruler's will was highest law. The concept of rights, which includes the right of free speech, BUT involves lawyers and courts, is essentially a characteristic of that highest CROWNED law. Now just the legal platitudes.or aspects and words appear,IMAGE OF CROWN one can argue and discuss what are rights and the legal system in public discourse.There is no Canon Law absent Divine Law.
In the age of the platitudes,everything can be affirmed however, understanding of what is necessary for rights in society is completely lost: on that the spiritual kingdom shines through into the physical kingdom is the two thieves on the cross Christ is that balance evident that one thief representing materialistically and physical law and bad choices and redemption is still a choice. Platitudes this definition of the law is Woodrow Wilson's “The law is the will of the state in respect to those citizens who are bound by it.” So the state unfolds a will! One can well imagine that someone who is embedded so strongly in abstract idealism, not to mention materialism — for they are practically the same — can claim that the state is supposed to have a will. He would have to have lost all sense of reality to even conceive of such a thing let alone write it down. But it is in this book the codex of platitudes: The State, Elements of Historical and Practical Politics.
Wilson also says in this book he German Empire after he describes how the efforts to found it were finally successful in 1870/71. “The final incentive for achievement of complete national unity was brought about by the German-French war of 1870/71. Prussia's brilliant success in this struggle, fought in the interest of German patriotism against French impertinence, caused the cool restraint of the central states towards their powerful neighbor in the north to end; they united with the rest of Germany and the German Empire was founded in the royal palace at Versailles on January 18, 1871.” The same man wrote that who a short time later in Versailles united with those whose impertinence had once been the motivation for the founding of the German Empire. Much of present day public opinion derives from the fact that people are so terribly superficial and pay no attention to the facts. If you decide to decide according to objective information, then things look quite different from what is propounded in public and accepted by thousands upon thousands of people. It wouldn't have hurt one bit if when Woodrow Wilson arrived in Paris in glory, praised from all sides, if these remarks had been held up to him. to take the facts into account, which means also the truth.

Catholic Church Cannon solidifies into a kind of spiritual imperialism, as for example in the 11th century when the Monks of Cluny [Cluny Abbey] really ruled over Europe more than is thought. From their ranks the powerful, imperialistic Pope Gregory VII emerged. Therefore Roman Catholic dogma enables the priest to feel greater than Christ, because he can force him to be present at the altar. This clearly shows that the institution of the Catholic Church is a relic, as that image of what once existed is Mans very first imperialism.
This new economic imperialism Woodrow Wilson would no longer speak of the will of the
Church, but he speaks of the will of the State as being self-evident. But the state only had the importance attributed to it from this relic Whereas once Church was all-powerful, Now the state contains everything that was attributed to the Church.

Thus the economic imperialism Crown
this concept of the state must take the same road the concept of the Church has traveled. a mere rights institution, and force everything else into this rights institution, just as the Church has kingdom of platitudes under which only economic imperialism glimmers The economy is auto- administered, the political state is no longer the absolute, all-inclusive entity, but is exclusively concerned with rights alone, and spiritual/cultural life is truly free,
Suddenly from the imperialism of platitudes comes the idea that it would be good if the queen of England also has the title “Empress of India.” One can invent the most beautiful reasons for this, but if it didn't happen, nothing would have changed. The Emperor of Austria, who now belongs to the deposed royalty, before he was chased out carried around along with his other titles a most unusual one: Franz Joseph I, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, Dalmatia, Croatia, Slovenia, Galizia, Lodomeria, Illyia and so on. Among all these titles was also “King of Jerusalem!” The Austrian Emperor also carried, until he was no longer emperor, the title “King of Jerusalem.” It came from the crusades. It would be impossible to give a better example of meaninglessness than this. And such meaninglessness plays a much greater role than you imagine. Constipated with platitudes. in certain sense we have reached the climax of platitudes.
But the attraction for illusion is especially strong in the age of platitudes. We wish so to sweep away the seriousness of life. We avoid looking at the truth inherent in our evolution. How could people let themselves be deceived by Wilsonian ideas if they really had the intense desire for truthful clarity? It must come. The desire for truth must grow in humanity. Above all, we desire for the liberation of spiritual/cultural life must grow along with the knowledge a Man who has not grasped “My kingdom is not of this world.” not physical invisible of material .
kingdom of Christ must become an invisible kingdom, a truly invisible empire, an empire of which one speaks as of invisible things. Spiritual people speak of this empire. Not some church, not some state, not some economic empire can create this empire. Only the will of the individual who lives a liberated spiritual/cultural life can create this empire. A platitude is a trite, meaningless, or prosaic statement, generally directed at quelling social, emotional, or cognitive unease.


A Post of many Pearls:


Thus the economic imperialism Crown
this concept of the state must take the same road the concept of the Church has traveled.

Therefore Forgiveness is the difference between uniting church and state, or putting them to war with one another.

Is not that the essence of Futurism - the idea that we get a seat on the bleachers being the LORD's special elect? The Great Tribulation will be spared us, we get to watch the show!

xparte
05-03-16, 09:57 PM
Thus the economic imperialism Crown or physical guilt
is a concept of the state so it must take the same road and the concept of the Church has traveled.The economy is auto- administered, the political state is no longer the absolute, all-inclusive entity, but is exclusively concerned with cannon rights alone,not devine our spiritual/cultural life is truly free, forgiveness 101 forgive them statesman for they know what they do.TRUMP the TRUTH

allodial
05-04-16, 01:01 AM
Thus the economic imperialism Crown or physical guilt
is a concept of the state so it must take the same road and the concept of the Church has traveled.The economy is auto- administered, the political state is no longer the absolute, all-inclusive entity, but is exclusively concerned with cannon rights alone,not devine our spiritual/cultural life is truly free, forgiveness 101 forgive them statesman for they know what they do.TRUMP the TRUTH

There is one thing to extract something from the Bible and implement it. It is another to project into the Bible something that is not there.


The image of the spiritual world in physical institutions, that is, the state which exists here on earth, but which is really an image of heavenly facts and personalities, but not a true image.

If one people has a sky full if Nimrod, war and mammon how can the resulting "earth below" be for them patterned after a heaven full of the divine council ruled by the one named at Exodus 3:14? Different constellations, different models, different outcomes?

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P.S. It has dawned one me that the crescent moon with the centered star is much like a bow and arrow with the star being where the grip on the bow or the tail of the bow would be. It is said that Qos was the name of the god the Edomites worshiped. One of Herod the Great's key governors (placed over Idumea by Herod) was named Costobarus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costobarus) (which means something like Qos is mighty). Qos is said to be mean 'bow' or to be the 'god of storms'. Qos/Kaus reminds of the word 'chaos'. Its worth noting, the Idumeans were still mindful of Qos worship even in Herod the Great's time. Was not Esau a hunter like Nimrod?

xparte
05-04-16, 08:11 AM
There is one thing to extract something from the Bible and implement it. It is another to project into the Bible something that is not there. The Catholic Church isn't in the bible but the war started in heaven and as above so bellow with a DEMOCRATIC Demonstration [LUCIFER] the DEMOCRATIC french, via medieval Latin from Greek d?mokratikos, from d?mokratia (see democracy). , from Greek demotikos "of or for the common people, in common use," from demos "common people," originally "district," from PIE *da-mo- "division," from root *da- "to divide" (see tide). In contrast to hierarchic. Originally of the simpler of two forms of ancient Egyptian writing; from Middle French démocratie (14c.), "popular government," from demos "common people," originally "district" (see demotic), + kratos "rule, strength" (see -cracy).
Democracy implies that the man must take the responsibility for choosing his rulers and representatives, and for the maintenance of his own 'rights' against the possible and probable encroachments of the government which he has sanctioned to act for him in public matters. [Ezra Pound, "ABC of Economics," 1933](see demotic),or demonic perhaps the hierarchic.pertaining to sacred things," 1660s, from Latin hieraticus, from Greek hieratikos "pertaining to a priest or his office, priestly, devoted to sacred purposes," from hierateia "priesthood," from hiereus "priest," from hieros "sacred, holy, hallowed; superhuman, mighty; divine" (see ire). Related: Hieratical (1650s).It would be for them patterned after a heaven full of the divine council ruled by the one named at Exodus 3:14? Different constellations, different models, different outcomes?Christ ended that war in heaven .we were made flesh physical guilt is conscience .The true image of heaven is its no democracy thats my point Cannon added nothing to the bible i can only speak on this kingdom of platitudes It is another to project into the Bible something that is not there. a bible was presented too heaven the image of the spiritual world in our physical institutions, that is, the state which exists here on earth, but which is really an image of heavenly facts and personalities, but not a true image.Christ is the true image minus all heavenly facts and personalities fallen ones. the rapture and anything democratic lodi i have no doubt the Different constellations, different models, different outcomes? are all the heavenly facts and personalities we are created images good and bad originally "district," from PIE *da-mo- "division," from root *da- "to divide" (see tide). My observational kingdom is without agency.

xparte
05-04-16, 08:22 AM
?Online Etymology Dictionary my source forgiveness


Etymologies are not definitions; they're explanations of what our words meant and how they sounded 600 or 2,000 years ago.


The basic sources of this work are Weekley's "An Etymological Dictionary of Modern English," Klein's "A Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the English Language," "Oxford English Dictionary" (second edition), "Barnhart Dictionary of Etymology," Holthausen's "Etymologisches Wörterbuch der Englischen Sprache," and Kipfer and Chapman's "Dictionary of American Slang." A full list of print sources used in this compilation can be found here.

David Merrill
05-04-16, 12:10 PM
Thus the economic imperialism Crown or physical guilt
is a concept of the state so it must take the same road and the concept of the Church has traveled.The economy is auto- administered, the political state is no longer the absolute, all-inclusive entity, but is exclusively concerned with cannon rights alone,not devine our spiritual/cultural life is truly free, forgiveness 101 forgive them statesman for they know what they do.TRUMP the TRUTH


Yes!!

Conversing with a trust expert, he questioned my Process Server's loyalty - How could I trust them? It was the intonation of the authority - being that the breach, waiting a month to serve the US Supreme Court (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImWnZ2SWpCeTBFYzQ/view?usp=sharing) opened up my authority. In words though, I explained how I could "trust" frightened people to behave in certain ways consistently. An hour and a half after closing, the process server came through sending my witness, eyes and evidence. This is the Patroon minutes for my Trustee character for the Resulting Trust. You want to save this to your disk:


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allodial
05-04-16, 01:20 PM
Those that aim to profit from guilt and carnal persons would aim to benefit from obscuring true and sound doctrine: imagine being given power, wisdom and hedges which help you avoid the generation of, say, "bad karma" or "bad mojo" for yourself (whether in respect of your inner and immediate biosphere, any biological contracts, social-political sphere or otherwise) and in general help you steer clear of trouble and to keep trouble away from you. Now, those that would aim to profit from ensnaring you (don't hunters tend to be competent with snares and such?) of course probably wouldn't want you to be aware of such doctrine and might even make a point to entice you as much as possible with counterfeits. However, as they say: "You can't keep a good man down." The pushing of counterfeits has ulterior motive: maintaining a captive audience--the opposite direction of liberty.


"For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." --Matthew 11:30

The true walk isn't about guilt. Its about liberty, abundance, joy, wisdom, freedom from the law of sin and death. The bad propaganda against the true doctrine seems to moreso benefit men hunters, keeping folks carnal, vulgar, profane and in the dark might be a strategy for maintaining a supple of two-legged livestock, eh? And on that note, specialists at manipulating carnal crowds probably prefer democracy based on simple majority votes.

David Merrill
05-04-16, 03:00 PM
There is one thing to extract something from the Bible and implement it. It is another to project into the Bible something that is not there.


Thank you once again Allodial. I believe you validate my point about Prosbul (Papal Bull).


P.S. I may have meant xparte - but you are both great! It seems to me that you both have separate doors to the same library some times.

allodial
05-04-16, 03:45 PM
I believe you validate my point about Prosbul (Papal Bull).

I have always had the impression that the UN was formed specifically for the purpose of making sure the Tennis Court Oath situation wouldn't happen again (i.e. so that member states could not easily shake debt). And so you may also be validating that hunch. When "international security" means keeping mankind saddled with the heavy yoke of debt and bad karma, such speaks of a paradigm that is self-destructive.

The impression I get is that Nimrod used "religion" as a means of ensnaring (he was a hunter and who said he didn't hunt mean too?). Religion as a helpful guide for life here and hereafter is one thing. Religion as a tool for warmongers for prosecution of war is another. Same sound, totally different meanings in fact and in effect.

David Merrill
05-04-16, 04:50 PM
Correspondingly:


I AM THAT REDEMPTION I AM.

Michael Joseph
05-04-16, 05:01 PM
Correspondingly:


I AM THAT REDEMPTION I AM.

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

verse 5 is a command to think as Christ Jesus thought - well how did Christ Jesus think? That is in verse 6 - he did not think it robbery to be equal with God. Who can hear?

What are those fruits? Response: He took on the role of servant - verse 7

Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

xparte
05-04-16, 07:02 PM
We seek for the Spirit that reveals itself in the Word; for the Spirit is with God, and the Spirit is God.” moving from the word to the spirit, our individual perception and knowledge of the spirit. shares large libraries the librarian is Christ Even when truth is uttered it is not always seen in the aspect where it becomes of importance in life. Such a truth assumes importance only when we perceive its consequences. We are not just physical beings we are moral or maybe immoral beings in earthly existence. What we do is determined by impulses of a moral nature.

Kant wrote two “Critiques”: the Critique of Pure Reason, concerned with the relation of man to a purely natural course of things, and the Critique of Practical Reason where he puts forward his moral postulates which in truth figuratively hover in the air, come out of the blue and have not a priori relation with natural causes. If earthly humanity follows impure moral impulses, then the body of the earth will be different from what it would be were the moral impulses pure. The range of man's vision is not wide enough to perceive that what happens externally in the course of nature is not dependent upon purely natural causes.


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The effort applied in study that lets itself be guided by healthy human reason can be part of the struggle which leads eventually to ones vision of the spiritual world. by enduring sufferings of body and soul for the sake of that salvation or sacrifices. Christ has become a companion of men, leading them, first, away from the battle with [Lucifer, Self ] Individual thought is physically separated in words but morally specific .I haven't sacrificed my mystical obligation.from the bleachers from the tennis court from the role of servant. all be guided by healthy human reason.

David Merrill
05-04-16, 11:06 PM
Yes!!

Conversing with a trust expert, he questioned my Process Server's loyalty - How could I trust them? It was the intonation of the authority - being that the breach, waiting a month to serve the US Supreme Court (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImWnZ2SWpCeTBFYzQ/view?usp=sharing) opened up my authority. In words though, I explained how I could "trust" frightened people to behave in certain ways consistently. An hour and a half after closing, the process server came through sending my witness, eyes and evidence. This is the Patroon minutes for my Trustee character for the Resulting Trust. You want to save this to your disk:


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Does somebody know Gary and/or Lucia? Could you tell me their number?

allodial
05-05-16, 12:14 AM
The meeting of the Estates General did little to help Louis XVI solve the economic crisis.

The high amount of debt accumulated by previous kings (American Revolution, Palace of Versailles, etc.) made it difficult to give the economy the boost it needed--there simply wasn't enough cash around.

Also, Louis didn't want to give up any of the crown's power and authority just to help out the commoners.


Frustrated with this lack of action, the Third Estate declared itself the National Assembly of France (the law making body) in June of 1787.

Hearing the news, Louis had the new National Assembly locked out of their meeting hall. The Assembly moved to a nearby indoor tennis court and took an oath not to disband until they had written a French constitution (hence the "Tennis Court Oath") and created a new government.

Of course, this new constitution would not include the king...

Summary of Tennis Court Oath events from Boise State University (http://edtech2.boisestate.edu/lockwoodm/FrenchRev/tennis_court_oath.htm).

David Merrill
05-05-16, 10:03 AM
Does somebody know Gary and/or Lucia? Could you tell me their number?


Of course I was asking rhetorically to make my point, about a fearful process server. This is blatantly faulty process if you have trouble or cannot even contact the process server.

http://os.dc.gov/service/notary-and-authentication-services

and for a Certificate of Commission on Maria SOTO...

http://os.dc.gov/service/authentications

faqs... http://os.dc.gov/node/1123331


I will order one up in the morning. It will go well as a second page to the Affidavit. My query has produced Gary's phone number. Thank you for the message! I might advise him my opinion that without proper contact information on the Affidavit, the document is faulty.

David Merrill
05-05-16, 03:52 PM
Hi Allodial;


I may have missed a couple points but could you please explain how through the Crown (Templars) and initiates like Benjamin FRANKLIN and Thomas JEFFERSON the French Tennis Court/court affected the American Revolution too?

David Merrill
05-05-16, 07:02 PM
Judy is emailing a Commission Certificate to me and mailing the paper to my process server, later today. I will show you all.

Remember that western Judeo-Christianity bases finding of fact on the two-witness system.

David Merrill
05-05-16, 07:48 PM
I love professionals like Judi;


Putting these two documents together really seals witness, eyes and evidence - finding of fact. I love it. Now I am ready to really expose the criminal syndicalism here, there, but especially on www.lawfulmoneytrust.com and I hope you will join us there.


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Michael Joseph
05-05-16, 08:51 PM
Judy is emailing a Commission Certificate to me and mailing the paper to my process server, later today. I will show you all.

Remember that western Judeo-Christianity bases finding of fact on the two-witness system.

"...At the mouth of two or three witnesses shall the matter be established..." Duet. 19:15

allodial
05-06-16, 02:48 AM
"...At the mouth of two or three witnesses shall the matter be established..." Duet. 19:15

I suspect they didn't have crackheads-who'll-say-anything-to-get-a-free-fix or coerced convicts-on-parole-afraid-to-go-back-to-prison-so-they'll-say-anything when they used the term 'witnesses'.


Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

verse 5 is a command to think as Christ Jesus thought - well how did Christ Jesus think? That is in verse 6 - he did not think it robbery to be equal with God. Who can hear?

What are those fruits? Response: He took on the role of servant - verse 7

Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Regeneration is important part of that. As being clean and renewed by God from within so that the manner in which one is led by the Spirit rather than by mere carnality. Clearly the psalmist comprehended this: "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." (Psalms 51:10) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5) "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord" (Ephesians 5:19). For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (Romans 8:14)


But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Power to become sons of God vs. power to become God. This may point to an error in that some may be led to believe that is their will or 'meditation on secret frequencies' that gives them this or that kind of power or 'level of consciouesness'. The 'total depravity' that Calvinists might speak of might be true or partly true PRIOR to Spiritual regeneration but not so afterwards. It was once said to me that the epistles for the regenerate, the four gospels are primarily for those yet called out.

xparte
05-06-16, 05:44 AM
We should finally admit that the god — imagined by effete humanity to dwell in the clouds — lives in our hearts, in our spirit. He fully divested himself of his being and poured it out completely over mankind. He did not want to retain anything of his own will because he wanted mankind to be a race that rules itself in full freedom.That is, logic that is grounded by Christ , not upon any effete or Churched tradition but upon a new investigation of thought as it actually is in its psychological foundations, in its significance for knowledge, and its actual operation in scientific and spiritual methods.
Christ emanated into the world. Man's will is his will, man's goals, his goals. By implanting into mankind an (entire being-ness) he gave up an existence of his own for Us. Kingdoms He ceased to be this kingdoms God for the sake of the freedom of mankind, for the divine-ness of the world. We have taken into ourselves the highest potency of existence, therefore no external power, only our own creations can give us satisfactions. All lamenting about an existence that does not satisfy us, about this hard world, must vanish in the presence of the thought, that no power in the world could satisfy us if we ourselves did not bestow upon it the power through which it can gladden and elevate us. If a god from outside our world were to bring us the joys of heaven and we had to take them as he prepared them, without our participation, we would have to refuse, because they would be the joys devoid of freedom. He who has seen Me has seen the Father well one day we might also be emanated
We have no right to expect satisfaction from powers outside of us. Faith has promised us reconciliation with the evils of this world, Redeemer brought about by a God from outside this world. when mankind will not have to hope anymore for a redemption from outside, because mankind will recognize that it must bring about its own bliss, just as it afflicted deep wounds upon itself.The Christ Revolution meant the sweeping away of effete beliefs and institutions, but implied also the necessity of a reconstructive process.When we join Christ. as God is a kingdom. We are a WORLD. LUCIFER that effete individual gets placed in the same clouds if theirs transition in heaven its only happened once.

xparte
05-06-16, 05:51 AM
The Revolution had made war on princes and privilege, and the common people had in general gained wherever the Napoleonic regime had been substituted for their effete despotisms; but the Continental System was felt as an oppression in every humble household, suddenly deprived of the little imported luxuries, such as sugar and coffee, which custom had made necessaries; and from this time date the beginnings of that popular revolt against Napoleon that was to culminate in the War of Liberation.



And, as a matter of fact, it has been seen that many so-called sceptics were rather critics of the effete systems which they found cumbering the ground than actual doubters of the possibility of knowledge in general.

Read more at http://sentence.yourdictionary.com/effete#ydJjGCUXrPWXvBdL.99 Physical sacrifices are the ones that'll never be written down.

David Merrill
05-07-16, 01:13 AM
I am considering carefully the term effete.

xparte
05-07-16, 01:27 AM
adjective
The definition of effete is someone who lacks vigor or is too soft or over refined, or something that is no longer producing.
When no one listens to the leader of the group any more and his power has essentially diminished to nothing, this is an example of an effete leader.
When academics think that they are intellectually superior to everyone, this is an example of when they might be described as effete.

Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/effete#LB1czfFpjjjVZR6h.99 when one runs out of clever words use the varied or unlikely site gringo

allodial
05-07-16, 03:01 AM
We should finally admit that the god — imagined by effete humanity to dwell in the clouds — lives in our hearts, in our spirit. He fully divested himself of his being and poured it out completely over mankind.

If one man holds his supreme or absolute sovereign to be one far off, and another imagines or serves a god that is not an afar off god, then logic might have it that those are two different gods. Related: panentheism vs. pantheism. A title is not a name. I'm not sure how unity or sameness would be derived simply by using the same titles. The president of one state and the president of another state are disparate and separate, similarity titles doesn't amount to a sameness.

allodial
05-07-16, 03:10 AM
I may have missed a couple points but could you please explain how through the Crown (Templars) and initiates like Benjamin FRANKLIN and Thomas JEFFERSON the French Tennis Court/court affected the American Revolution too?


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This book is a comprehensive study of the history of the political thought of the Dutch Revolt (1555-90). It explores the development of the political ideas which motivated and legitimized the Dutch resistance against the government of Philip II in the Low Countries, and which became the ideological foundations of the Dutch Republic as it emerged as one of the main powers of Europe. It shows how notions of liberty, constitutionalism, representation and popular sovereignty were of central importance to the political thought and revolutionary events of the Dutch Revolt, giving rise to a distinct political theory of resistance, to fundamental debates on the 'best state' of the new Dutch commonwealth and to passionate disputes on the relationship between church and state which prompted some of the most eloquent early modern pleas for religious toleration.

First, I suspect American high schools leaving out particulars of the Dutch Revolt do students a hefty disfavor. Why? Because it may be that the ideals behind the Dutch Revolt carried over into the American Revolution moreso than that of the French revolution (it is suggest that the monarchy was a vicitim of PSYOPS). In the same way the early American Revolutionists are mischaracterized as rebels and personalities like Locke and Bacon, the American Revolution might be errantly twinned with the French Revolution instead of the Dutch Revolt. Pairing it with the Dutch Revolt ties in too much with the idea of a Bible based society without mischaracterization of the gospel. Pairing the American Revolution with the French Revolution on the other hands might serve to pair the American Revolution with a more atheistic philosophies which may very well be to mischaracterize it.


The American Revolution and War of Independence Was Not A Rebellion (By Gray W. Clark) (http://israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIsrael/American-Revolution.html)
Leibniz, Not Locke, Inspired the Declaration of Independence (http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/leiblock.htm)
How The Venetian Virus Infected and Took Over England (http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/venlowry.htm)
The Venetian Takeover of Enland: A 200-Year Project (http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/takeover.htm)
Doing Good In the World: Cotton Mather and the Origins of Modern Philanthropy (http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/phall/08.%20Mather.pdf)
Essays to Do Good (Cotton Mather - 1825 / Multiple formats at archive.org) (https://archive.org/details/essaystodogo00math)
Abraham Lincoln & Freemasonry (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1012-Abraham-Lincoln-amp-Freemasonry)


Nonetheless, I'd also suggest it to be important to consider that crowns and rulers existed before the Templars. I don't suspect there to be a single 'crown' although one or more shops might wish to impose 'only man in town' syndrome on the planet. Consider the pundits of 'world takeover' as having a very bad allergy to the Tennis Court Oath and so forming the UN and fomenting wars ('wars costs money + debt as slavery' paradigm) to increase debt and thwart shaking off of debt. A 'security problem' in Africa might be where a debt saddle country throws sheds its State and forms a new one: troops get sent in, the leaders is called all the negative Orwellian bad-buzzwords. Pervert dictators with perverse sexual appetites are easily pleased and fed by dark handlers. Men who care about their country will demand equity and the money system comes under scrutiny PDQ.

You concurred that the Templars traced themselves back to the post-1099 "king of Jerusalem" paradigm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/templars/knights_templars01.htm). Other similar or related organization may very well subscribe to teh same idea. So the story goes, they thought they were reliving a "when you see Jerusalem surrounded" prophetic event--but little did they know that happened 1,000 years before. But they didn't realize that until later. Legend has it they discovered some secret that they believed they could wield against the Papacy. Maybe the story has something to do with mischaracterization of the gospel? Perhaps they continued that tradition of mischaracterization if there was any? The claim of Europeans kings that they can trace their lineage back to "King David"? Meaning David Al-Roy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Alroy) vs David of ancient Israel? Same sound different kings, makes for quite the deception. It seems very unlikely the six-pointed star was something David of the Old Testament would have held as his family symbol. Its doubtful that Samuel would have allowed him to live for too long if he had. The evidence, however, shows that David Al-Roy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Alroy) was associated with that star (regarded to be the Star of Remphan/Chiun/Saturn-- Chiun allegedly being another way of spelling 'Cain'... China?) and that some of his successors may have carried it forward.


One of Bonaparte's grievances against Cacault was a saying attributed to the latter: "How many sources of his glory would cease if Bonaparte ever chose to play Henry VIII!" Even in those days of harmony Cacault had a presentiment that the Napoleonic policy would yet threaten the dignity of the Holy See.


Robespierre becomes god Christians are massacred under the new Atheist fervor in 1792-1793

The idea is that the French Revolution was about bringing Feudalism to an end. Another idea is that the NWO pundits are aiming to bring feudalism back on as planetary a scale as possible. But yet we see the same overthrowers of the French monarchy instituting collectivism and closed oligarchy. Same shoes, different feet? Isn't that what the Bolsheviks did????

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Jean_Auguste_Dominique_Ingres%2C_Portrait_de_Napol %C3%A9on_Bonaparte_en_premier_consul.jpg/170px-Jean_Auguste_Dominique_Ingres%2C_Portrait_de_Napol %C3%A9on_Bonaparte_en_premier_consul.jpg

Interestingly in Italy, Aristotle is widely presented in high schools. Seems that Aristotle found oligarchies to be quite "tasty".


Atheism is aristocratic; the idea of a great Being that watches over oppressed innocence and punishes triumphant crime is altogether popular. Maximilien Robespierre

Interesting: atheism + aristocracy ("No god but us"?) + Gnostic idea of a universe with equally matched forces of good and evil (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1724-The-Ismailis&p=18726&viewfull=1#post18726).

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3970&d=1462332805
Qos also means 'bow.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_emblem_of_Turkey#/media/File:Emblem_of_the_Republic_of_Turkey.svg
Turkey coat of arms.


Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough {ben is used here} by a well; whose branches run over the wall: The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him. Genesis 49:22-23 (the word archers is queshet...similar to quesh/qos, no?)


Related:

Cult of the Supreme Being (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being)
Collectivism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivism)
Cult of Reason (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason)
Charles Joseph Bonaparte [creator of the FBI] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joseph_Bonaparte)
Aldrich–Vreeland Act (1907) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldrich%E2%80%93Vreeland_Act)

David Merrill
05-07-16, 08:10 AM
All they need is a little attention (https://youtu.be/7cvKcMbzN_A).



Flippancy aside, by amplifying the guilt of Abraham and Sarah's incest, they need no printing presses. The debt is avoid the wrath of an angry God who can order you to kill your own bloodline.

Thank you for clarifying that. I appreciate the insight into the Dutch Revolt leading up to the Charter of 1629.

BLBereans
05-07-16, 01:06 PM
First, I suspect American high schools leaving out particulars of the Dutch Revolt do students a hefty disfavor. Why? Because it may be that the ideals behind the Dutch Revolt carried over into the American Revolution moreso than that of the French revolution (it is suggest that the monarchy was a vicitim of PSYOPS). In the same way the early American Revolutionists are mischaracterized as rebels and personalities like Locke and Bacon, the American Revolution might be errantly twinned with the French Revolution instead of the Dutch Revolt. Pairing it with the Dutch Revolt ties in too much with the idea of a Bible based society without mischaracterization of the gospel. Pairing the American Revolution with the French Revolution on the other hands might serve to pair the American Revolution with a more atheistic philosophies which may very well be to mischaracterize it.


Flippancy aside, by amplifying the guilt of Abraham and Sarah's incest, they need no printing presses. The debt is avoid the wrath of an angry God who can order you to kill your own bloodline.

Thank you for clarifying that. I appreciate the insight into the Dutch Revolt leading up to the Charter of 1629.

Sounds like mischaracterization of the torah?

guilt
incest
wrath
kill

These are the words used to describe the happenings involving the man chosen by The Creator to be the 'father' of His new and set-apart nation amidst the evil, rebellion and iniquity practiced by the people of Babylon/Mesopotamia whom He scattered around the world and whose language He confused.

I guess when one engages in mischaracterization of the gospel by using the term 'bastard' to describe the anointed Christ and unique Son of God, the same sentiment pervades one's view throughout scripture.

David Merrill
05-07-16, 01:44 PM
I was viewing history as one sequential event leading into another, but now view things better as interactive holographic.


I was joking;


How do you find a magnet in a haystack?
ANSWER: Use a compass.


I think it worthwhile to view history in the light of the allegorical metaphors produced around reclamation of the Crown of Jerusalem (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_Kingdom_of_Heaven_snippet.wmv).

allodial
05-07-16, 09:55 PM
I think it worthwhile to view history in the light of the allegorical metaphors produced around reclamation of the Crown of Jerusalem (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_Kingdom_of_Heaven_snippet.wmv).

It must be understood: they were 1,000 years too late. Even Ezekiel (like John) saw the New Jerusalem. The crowns were given to the saints of the most high. After 30AD, the blind and carnal may have still been looking for a "kingdom of heaven" that they could see with their physical eyes or for temples made with hands. Consider also, the saints and Jesus/Yeshua being conferred kingdoms at the right hand of the most high.

Which reminds me, once long ago I felt inclined to study an arrangement in the stars, looking beyond the Romanesque or Babylonian Zodiac and Constellations. I was after prayer inclined to seek out the representations of "the father's house" something that would be so simple even a child could see it. And there it was, at Cepheus a little house like the kind little kinds draw: a square with a triangle on top. Next I was inclined to make the determination of right and left from the vantage point of standing in the doorway of the house. And behold: the Crown to the right and Draco to the left!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Cepheus_IAU.svg

Interestingly Cepheus is mischaracterized by Kaballists as "The Fool" (http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Alrai.html). It may have been heretical Gnostics that decided to project the upside down image of the Cepheus on his throne onto the house in order to have Draco at Cepheus' right hand. Absurd and very telling--in that they likely knew the original meaning and set out to hide it!


... the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. ... But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty. 1 Cor. 25, 27 (v. 25 in part)

The star making at the peak of the roof of the house is called Errai or Al Rai (which means Shepherd which relates to the word 'hero'). It is said that such star will become replace Polaris as the North Star in at least 2600 years.

Related:
Mazzaroth or, the Constellations (http://philologos.org/__eb-mazzaroth/) (by Frances Rolleston)

David Merrill
05-07-16, 10:55 PM
Celestial Wobble - in 26,000 years it will look the same as now. I enjoy SkyGlobe from NASA but I was impressed with the program a fellow uses in The Star of Bethlehem (https://youtu.be/gzWi0tWKoxo).

I think you circle back to my point about time. It is an illusion. This is the reference to the Alpha and the Omega - the ALEPH and the TAV. The Alphabet of Creation (https://youtu.be/gzWi0tWKoxo). My point though may not be pleasing to all. The guilt trip caused a stiff-necked and hard-hearted people; so much so that when one of theirs broke through to this natural birthright - biblical prophecy - they threw a small fortune at preserving it to the culture as a national treasure.



P.S. As I developed Artificial Intuition at the young age of 69 it feels more and more that Adolph read this Century Magazine clip in 1928 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImRnlDdFRQRnNUTFU/view?usp=sharing), before he even knew he might need a national enemy to target. One nation's treasure is another man's weapon?

allodial
05-08-16, 12:27 AM
Celestial Wobble - in 26,000 years it will look the same as now. I enjoy SkyGlobe from NASA but I was impressed with the program a fellow uses in The Star of Bethlehem (https://youtu.be/gzWi0tWKoxo).

I think you circle back to my point about time. It is an illusion.

Hologram vs. illusion. An illusion might lack genuine importance, like a counterfeit or an imitation. However, a hologram nonetheless can carry original and intended meaning. Also, re: 26,000 years: that is presuming it won't be 'rolled up like a scroll'.


P.S. As I developed Artificial Intuition at the young age of 69 it feels more and more that Adolph read this Century Magazine clip in 1928 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImRnlDdFRQRnNUTFU/view?usp=sharing), before he even knew he might need a national enemy to target. One nation's treasure is another man's weapon?

The trouble is that so many organizations/groups claim to be "Jews" for the purpose of grandstanding as "god's chosen"--to legitimize anything and everything they do. But of course, Israelites weren't lawless. The historic record (see Edwin L. Martin) shows that Gnostics, Samaritans and Islamists heavily regarded themselves to be "Jews"; eventually even Edom had joined in. After 70AD it also became fashionable to borrow the title "Christian". What does any given group actually mean by "Jew" or Christian? Jew as in Judean or Jew as in Idumean or Jew as in Samarian or Islamic Gnostic? Christian as in Simonian or as in among the saints so dubbed at Antioch? Which points to this: Another big con that was attempted to be foisted upon bible believers is the one were saints are equated with Gentiles. Consider that by 1000 AD, Palestine/Samaria came into Islamic hands. If Isaac quit an area, who was the next heir: Ishmael. What religion were the Templars held to ultimately embrace? Some say: Islam.


A stele is dedicated to Qos-allah 'Qos is Allah' or 'Qos the god', by Qosmilk (melech - king) is found at Petra (Glueck 516). Qos is identifiable with Kaush (Qaush) the God of the older Edomites. The stele is horned and the seal from Edomite Tawilan near Petra identified with Kaush DISPLAYS A STAR AND CRESCENT (Gluek, Browning).

Post-Old-Dynasty Egypt Gnostics vs Moses (preserving the original doctrines)
Essau/Edom/Idumeans (Qos) vs Israel (includes Judah)
Rome vs non-Catholics
Ishmael vs Isaac
Archers (Qos) vs Joseph
Nimrod (Men Hunters) vs Mankind

Michael Joseph
05-08-16, 12:44 AM
Celestial Wobble - in 26,000 years it will look the same as now. I enjoy SkyGlobe from NASA but I was impressed with the program a fellow uses in The Star of Bethlehem (https://youtu.be/gzWi0tWKoxo).

I think you circle back to my point about time. It is an illusion. This is the reference to the Alpha and the Omega - the ALEPH and the TAV. The Alphabet of Creation (https://youtu.be/gzWi0tWKoxo). My point though may not be pleasing to all. The guilt trip caused a stiff-necked and hard-hearted people; so much so that when one of theirs broke through to this natural birthright - biblical prophecy - they threw a small fortune at preserving it to the culture as a national treasure.



P.S. As I developed Artificial Intuition at the young age of 69 it feels more and more that Adolph read this Century Magazine clip in 1928 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImRnlDdFRQRnNUTFU/view?usp=sharing), before he even knew he might need a national enemy to target. One nation's treasure is another man's weapon?

Day of Trumpets: 11-Sept-3BC
Day of Atonement: 21-Sept=3BC
Feast of Tabernacles : 26 - Sept- 3BC

Num 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth [Confusion].

xparte
05-08-16, 02:58 AM
Christ gave humanity the ability to raise itself to an understanding of the spiritual out of the life of intellect itself. inability to understand the spirit is our ignorance of the Holy Spirit,IF i talk only of the Father God and the Christ God.a far away one or internal one as i am willing to see and read it. is also for it is a revelation in and of itself man can understand those sensitivities through the spirit dwelling within him, if he only inclines himself to Christ. Holy Spirit appeared at the baptism of Christ. And with the appearance of the Holy Spirit
The Father is the unbegotten begetter who places the Son into the physical world. But at the same time the Father uses the Holy Spirit in order to tell humanity that in the spirit that we have from our pre-birth existence is raised to life through the Christ dwelling within us. And when Christ sent the Holy Spirit to his disciples this imparting occurred through the Christ, through the Son.that the Father is the unbegotten begetter, that the Son is the one begotten by the Father, and that the Holy Spirit is the one imparted to humanity by the Father and the Son. along with the teachings concerning that Trinity based on three parts or elements, especially the theological description of humans as consisting of body, soul, and spirit. Trinity
the divine principle working as Christ within evolving humanity cannot be understood without the Trinity. If, in the place of the Trinity, some other teaching concerning God were to enter, then basically speaking it would not be fully Christs teaching. Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So actually it is the Holy Spirit who is sent by Christ in order that man might retain his consciousness of self, of his I, while Christ himself lives in the unconsciousness of human beings. Thus, if man realizes in the full sense of the word what his being really is, The effete ignorance might be me ignoring dogma not scripting Scripture I cant spirit stiff nobody i can however adjust my clouds.

David Merrill
05-08-16, 03:40 AM
Holy Spirit appeared at the baptism of Christ.



Mar 11:28 And say unto him, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority to do these things?
Mar 11:29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things.
Mar 11:30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.

Coronation.

xparte
05-08-16, 02:24 PM
Rome vs non-Catholics In part it is due to this dogma. But neither may one speak of the soul. Of the real soul it is not permitted to talk because the religious faiths claim it as their prerogative to speak of the soul and — so far as their dogma allows — also of the spirit. It is their monopoly. If in any place something flares up and spirit is mentioned they are interfering in the affairs of religion. Nothing remains for this poor science of the world but to become material, materialistic, since the religious denominations deprive it of the possibility to touch on anything spiritual.When redeemable is a spiritual gift and one soul searching truth is realized its done in the spirit
most important to realise that the very powers responsible for materialism are the powers of the Western Churches. It is the Churches we have to thank for materialism. And materialism will go on increasing in strength if the Churches do not lose their administrative powers in the various religions and confessions. If we take our ROMAN civilization seriously it will be impossible for us to entertain any illusions in these matters. Today it concerns us all to take these matters seriously. Today we may not out of human weakness venture on any compromise. If in our ordinary activities we are forced into making a compromise, this must be done consciously and not lightly dismissed with a few words. It must be quietly admitted that it is necessary to yield to superior power of Christ. We must not make a compromise with what we know; we must not believe a thing to be right that we do at the dictates of coercion.Certainly nothing becomes Christian because in every third line Christ's name is mentioned.or it becomes Rabbinical when Moses name is mentioned. But when it is said out of the very spirit of the present and one is at pains to speak in this way, people come and say: Oh, but he is not talking of the God or Christ. He should be speaking with more depth. Then this so-called depth is put forward in the most external way possible that material matter of fact legal way. What we do individually, for example in teaching, must be done out of the knowledge that each man bears within him different impulses. But as physical man is out of his own powers he has now to seek union with the spiritual, the interest of the spirits above him. In any sense is warmed-up ancient knowledge. preach the old beliefs. And why shouldn't we be kindly disposed towards what comes from that direction? There is no reason why we should not. But for goodness' sake let us not take it seriously as the basis for what is truth today, We should just say: These people were brought up to this, it is true, they cannot change their calling later in life, so let them talk. But we should not think it necessary to agree with all they say except in a conventional way and without discussion.a citizen of Rome is civilization lacking Spirit

David Merrill
05-08-16, 03:17 PM
The history I am familiar with is how when Paul was young Saul there was an uprising in eastern Turkey (Asia Minor) and Saul's father took part in the civil skirmish, taking up with Rome. Rome won. So Saul's father gained an entitled Roman citizenship but would not have been privileged with dual citizenship. His citizenship (religion) would have been solely Roman. Saul as Paul would have been eligible, not entitled, as indicated by the Roman officer in Acts, to purchase his Roman citizenship at a high price.

Saul apparently cherished his (Edomite) Jewry so much to form an interesting strategy. Finding of fact, that Rome existed and apparently was not going anywhere for some centuries, Saul began flirting with the idea he might become a kind of liaison officer on the Temple Mount between the Babylonian Sanhedrin and Caesar. So after his scouting out the potential for the Gospel of Mark to fly among the Asia Minor pagans - being that Life, Death and Resurrection were the primary colors of the seasons and agriculture Saul/Paul spent the alms gathered while stopped in Cyprus - a Masonic (Mnason) cover-up to invest in the actual papers.

It is so obvious once you accept the still-living Jesus spent three years writing Mark with Peter and Paul visiting Damascus too.

allodial
05-09-16, 03:45 AM
Coronation.

If one avoids confusing extra-Hebraic practices of "baptism" with the OT Hebraic immersion/mikveh, it would be clear that the Holy Spirit's settling upon him would be the only thing at Mark 11 that has to do with coronation: anointing. The entire OT temple layout figured the process of salvation. Mikveh was required for the royal priesthood--full body immersion and neither sprinkling of blood, water, wine nor oil. To project foreign or copy-cat practices onto the practices of Hebrews would just serve to confuse. The Babylonians see reality through Babylonian eyes. The Hebrews were not Babylonians.

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Note: the laver comes before entry into the congregation. The light of the oil-powered lampstands would hardly be directly visible from without! To see it one had to enter into the congregation, no?

That lots of people used the word "baptism" in connection with some "coronation" ceremony after 70AD as copycats or 'holy ritual designers' (whether to legitimize one claim or another to authority or to put on a really impressive show) doesn't make retroactive projection fit the OT plan or purpose.


A person was required to be ritually pure in order to enter the Temple. In this context, "purity" and "impurity" are imperfect translations of the Hebrew "tahara" and "tumah", respectively, in that the negative connotation of the word impurity is not intended; rather being "impure" is indicative of being in a state in which certain things are prohibited until one has become "pure" again by immersion in a mikveh. {Wiki author evidences lack of comprehension of what it means to be 'ritually unclean' due to failure to specifically utilize that term.}

Consider entry into the Temple becoming part of the House of God or the Assembly of the Anointed (Christ)--mikveh was about purification not coronation. There is nothing in the scriptures OT or NT to suggest otherwise. To get the general idea, consider the notion that subsequent to purification, the one now clean could access the presence of God. Mikveh itself is not coronation/anointing. Anointing is very specific.

For those who worshiped 'sea gods' or the saw the sea (Mari/mer/mar/mermaids/mercantilism/Mercury) as the 'holy sea' (Dagon, Oannes), sure application of water might be seen as a kind of coronation. But most certainly that was neither the Hebrew nor Melchizedek perspective. In the Hebrew realm, anointing was and is done with oil not water.

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In the Temple, light was provided by oil-powered candles rather than by wicked candles. Note 'wicked' candles provide their own light and burn of themselves.


...What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. Zech. 4:11-14 (11 in part)

At Zechariah 4:14, "anointed ones" is literally "sons of oil" (b'nai ytzar).

One perspective: oil floats on water, water can extinguish fire and drown people. Another: The scriptural Israel wasn't about formation of secular state. Edom/Esau being carnally minded would miss this point. It was the secularization that prompted judgement even in Hezekiah's time.

30 AD to 70AD was a long grace period (two 20-year periods). The king's missionaries were in the field to maximize the extent of salvation. Who sends missionaries out for 5 seconds? There had to be adequate time to give those of the land to get clued up. Hedges of protection around Jerusalem were removed starting around 66AD and the Idumeans with other nations were standing at the gates. Judgment came ~66AD to 70AD. It has been suggested that Rome-Babylon along with the Idumeans (who were enemies of Israel and Judah) were used as instruments of such judgment. The Worthless Shepherd hardly fits Yeshua/Jesus: the war was waged on the spiritual level first and foremost, the carnally minded would miss the point entirely: the battle was won on the spiritual level. The Romans even blamed the saints for the failure of their oracles and the like subsequent to the crucifixion--even their records evidence something remarkable happened in the spiritual and psychic realms in those days.

P.S. Contrary to infant baptism proponents, it is said according to the Essenes that the age of 30 years had to be attained before any king could be anointed or perhaps even admitted to the congregation. 30 as the 'spiritual age of accountability'.

Related:
The Third Temple: Spiritual or Physical? (http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/third-temple-physical-spiritual.htm)

David Merrill
05-09-16, 06:04 PM
If one avoids confusing extra-Hebraic practices of "baptism" with the OT Hebraic immersion/mikveh, it would be clear that the Holy Spirit's settling upon him would be the only thing at Mark 11 that has to do with coronation: anointing.


Your post is flavorful with wisdom, Allodial.

Some tenets I believe in might clarify while justifying your points as well. Love destroys guilt. While fear may desire the illusion there is guilt though, guilt will always convert that love (that will destroy specialized ego) into currency.


As I proceeded through the fourth cycle of Christianity Explored I was comprehending the BRANCH and Coronation of Jesus. Sure enough, the facilitator gave me a book titled Jesus the King and its rendition of Mark, chapter 11 exposed the business plan around the Worthless Shepherd while validating my perception is true.


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allodial
05-09-16, 07:26 PM
Your post is flavorful with wisdom, Allodial.

Some tenets I believe in might clarify while justifying your points as well. Love destroys guilt. While fear may desire the illusion there is guilt though, guilt will always convert that love (that will destroy specialized ego) into currency.

Love for God, self and others curbs sin and thusly serves to bring guilt to an end. As for the name Yeshua/Jesus/Yehoshua it is suggested that the sound of 'eyeh' is encoded like a prefix (more like Joshua). The transliteration of the last part is questionable as 'ua'. There is a fellow who suggests that the only correct " tetragrammaton" is found at Exodus 3:14 while the other he suggest to have been penned/substituted into place by Talmudists after Babylonian exile. One Rabbinical source admits there to be "two tetragrammatons". Though the scribes may have tried to conceal the truth, (E)YEHSHU / (E)YEHSHA resonates with Exodus 3:14 profoundly! Especially if you discard the "DJ" sound for y=i=j. IESHA/YESHA + S => IESHAS ...JESUS.

David Merrill
05-09-16, 07:50 PM
So many trying to master the enunciation finally turned me off, to anything but what the concordances all agree upon. Yehoshuah. I spoke with James PRICE who wrote a paper (http://www.essene.com/Yeshua/yehoshua.htm), he helped me get even that correctly pronounced.

Otherwise I stick to a book that cost a handful and therefore likely protect my investment -

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It would seem mastery of the tetragammatron is a favorite all-time past-time (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_Pi-snippet.wmv).


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allodial
05-09-16, 08:09 PM
Worthwhile mention: 'ahavah ' and 'ohev' mean love in Hebrew/Chaldee/Phonecian.


These are the names of the men which Moses sent to spy out the land. And Moses called Oshea the son of Nun Jehoshua. Numbers 13:16

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David Merrill
05-10-16, 09:01 AM
If one avoids confusing extra-Hebraic practices of "baptism" with the OT Hebraic immersion/mikveh, it would be clear that the Holy Spirit's settling upon him would be the only thing at Mark 11 that has to do with coronation: anointing. The entire OT temple layout figured the process of salvation.

Related:
The Third Temple: Spiritual or Physical? (http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/third-temple-physical-spiritual.htm)


I thank you again. Integrating the allegorical into the practicable is quite a meal! As I digest however I am reminded that the Book of Mark was completed first, and the others were "Friends" of Jesus, some actually Apostles who understood and subscribed to Peter, Mark, Paul and Jesus' political agenda, playing for the throne in Jerusalem, maybe even still upon the idolatry impeachment of Antipas HEROD. [Note, this is my intuitive judgment after studying the Book of Mark as described in the Gospel of Pragmatism.] A rough tenet of Pragmatism is that the entire universe is supernatural, as in the emotional attachments to sin cause the illusion of separateness from God. Therefore it is silly to make the presumptions of the supernatural, like in miracles that defy physics - in my exploration of your link; that the Veil in the Temple was actually torn in half, rather than the political event of Pilate accepting payment from Joseph to preserve Jesus' life but stage his death leading to the events in Mark.

It is important to remember that the original transcripts of Mark end a bit earlier - and in light of my perceptions, it pays to note what was added in long after the other Gospels were drafted.



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My perceptions feel they develop knowledge as one "trusts" in the Holy Spirit, one breaks down the barrier (Veil) of self-preservation of identity created out of the ego's fears, most succinctly the loss of identity upon mortal death. With this barrier overcome by the new trust of the new creature, one is akin to being on the NZT-48 found in the series/movie Limitless. And maybe even breaching the physical limitations of the finite mind found in Lucy. Ergo Pragmatism in no way disqualifies the supernatural, only describes it in terms that fail to accuse God of violating his own natural laws; like that when a man dies, his body undergoes quick bacterial growth and rapid decay for lack of oxygen.

allodial
05-10-16, 01:00 PM
There is nothing in the Bible that puts other planets out of the question or that makes science out of the scope or comprehension of God or the saints. An electron 5' away like an electronic 5 billion miles away is obeying its contract: its definition in its nature. It is is secular or heretical Gnostic thinking that separates God from creation. Sin causes the soul to increase its distance from the body. There are protective mechanism that the spiritual aspects of a Man take when the body is attempting to dominate. The Bible explains how to minimize or eliminate adverse "Karmic" backlash by avoiding behaviors, thought processes and the like that amount to 'sin'. One loves God? One avoids sin.

I'm not sure what motivations Pilate had for playing into a conspiracy. Jesus Christ wasn't vying for the throne in Jerusalem, he was bringing the old system to an end--even the Rabbis of the day knew that: the 6,000 year point in the survey of time was upon them. The Esau-Cain legacy didn't want it to end. A torn curtain -> end of the show. Trying to render the Gospel in mere worldly political terms is contrary even to the OT. God is far from being a petty territorial squabbler. To think in solely in terms of what can be seen or experienced in terms of the local-universe-locked suit called the body is to be carnally minded. The Idumeans, like those of Cain were fixated on power and territory in the worldly sense.

The temple destruction spelled the end of the age. The kind of scepter Jesus and the saints were and are concerned about goes beyond the petty territoriality of secular states which might be inferior and subject to the Divine whether they like it or not. The kind of power of discussion is far above of the secular state.


Ergo Pragmatism in no way disqualifies the supernatural, only describes it in terms that fail to accuse God of violating his own natural laws..

Its very simple: creator has power over the created. It is in the nature of the physical realm to obey the Creator. A son inherits characteristics from the father--so no surprise if that which obeys a father also responds in kind to sons. The word 'nature' relates to the Old Dynasty Egyptian word 'neter'.

Natural law deals with the nature of things. Not necessarily meaning nature in the sense of bears in the woods. Nature in the sense the characteristic how things, persons and beings. By nature a corporation spun off from a public corporation has the powers of a public corporation. Because the nature of the parent follows to the child.


like that when a man dies, his body undergoes quick bacterial growth and rapid decay for lack of oxygen.

When a man dies the biology is abandoned: proof of a biological contract--the bacteria, etc. know that the body is up for grabs. Acid vs base is code: gradients and fields that exist while one is alive collapse. Experiments were done that suggested that a body weighs less after death.

The pharmaceutical industry and rogue medical industries through disdainful method for growing vaccines using fetal tissue have sought to find ways to throw that biological compact into confusion.

Re: Witches & Sorcerers
Even the most basic treatise on witchcraft and sorcery warn of the adverse consequences of doing evil on the psychic or spiritual planes. The Bible doesn't suggest men to be powerless. It was the ones who wielded power contrary to the Contract and made a mess of things that were the problem. It wasn't that the power didn't exist it was more about HOW TO WIELD IT. The Adversary/Serpant didn't want Adam wielding power in compliance with God's ways. That is the Adversary's/Serpent's trick is to intice someone with power to yield it OUT OF GOD'S HANDS. Adam was given dominion (that is conferring of a kingdom or rule). The Adversary/Serpent perceived that by capturing Adam/Mankind, the dominion could be captured.

Thusly the more established groups sorcerers/witches set up traps to ensnare someone to TAKE THE KARMIC HIT FOR THEM. They reject the one named at Exodus 3:14 and Jesus Christ and find themselves left alone to manage their KARMA AT SOMEONE ELSE'S EXPENSE--and without True Wisdom because they also have shut themselves out.

So, God was never trying to spoil the fun. Instead it was about maximizing prosperity in a way that avoided generating adverse recoil in the psycho-physical-spiritual continuum. Witches know this. It wasn't that Samuel or someone couldn't be summoned from the dead. The book of Enoch points to this: mankind in a carnal state wasn't ready for certain knowledge without adequate preparation or guidance. This is all so obvious even in child-raising and in organizations: people start small and are trained. Who sets an 8 y/o at the controls of a super-sonic nuclear-weapon equipped bomber without any training whatsoever?

David Merrill
05-10-16, 01:51 PM
Thank you again. There is no need to bicker about the differences in our faith. So I am going to put this thread back on track, at least according to me. Organic law states:


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allodial
05-10-16, 02:02 PM
Breech of trust is what I was alluding to. An 8 y/o at the helm of a nuclear-weapon-equipped bomber isn't competent: so putting her behind the controls is a breech although not on her part. This almost-commonplace thing these days of persons holding office without intending to be bound to the oath of office is akin to theft (one-sided contract). Black magicians left alone to manage their own Karma oddly enough don't seem to have too much trouble finding a patsy (consider: child sacrifice). One witch admitted to me the real reason the Bible is despised: because it tells so many things that they'd rather not be known outside of their controlled structure.

People starting to think in terms of equity just might cause entrenched thieves to sweat profusely.

A key point about Jesus Christ is that the breech of trust must have been huge enough to prompt someone to incarnate (possibly even traversing from another star system)--to come down from such a high level--just to deal with the breech on another planet on a different star. To throw out the deeper spiritual aspects of Jesus Christ's mission might serve to to miss the point about the severity of the breech. If he was just some regular guy pretending to act out some fancy idea in a quirky way: then the breech of trust seems to be negligible.


And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. Genesis 18:20-21 (KJV) (http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-Chapter-18/)

Consider those who killed him must have been fully aware of the severity and scope of their own breech.

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And so, not to bicker but to at the least entertain the potential broadness of scope, Scott Bartle found that when approaching alleged officials of 'the Australian Government' (as opposed to "the Commonwealth of Australia") concerning the penalties for pretending to be a government official: he was met with silence in that rather than admit they were faking it, they went silent and to the extent the problems he had with "customs" (perhaps Serco (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/19/serco-immigration-detention-centers-united-states) dba Australian Customs and Border Protection Service?) disappeared.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeYQNq7znH4

David Merrill
05-10-16, 05:44 PM
I wanted to add this treasure link (https://lawlibrary.colorado.edu/colorado-session-laws?field_session_year_value=1861&field_session_chapter_number_value=&field_session_page_from=&field_session_page_to=&field_session_type_value=All&field_session_document_type_value=All&page=1). I forget how I found it, but I believe it is linked with the State Archives.

allodial
05-11-16, 03:55 AM
DISTRACTED PERSON

A term used In the statutes of Illinois (Rev. Laws. 111. 1833,p. 332) and New Hampshire (Dig. X. II. Laws, 1S30, p. 339) to express a state ofinsanity. Snyder v. Snyder, 142 111. 60, 31 N. E. 303.

Great link. The section concerning the construction of statutes makes reference to 'distracted persons. Interesting. I wonder if 'distracted persons' includes persons lost at sea or persons locked in a hypnotic gaze or persons under the influence of fluoride or taken by various distractions posing as entertainment. Interesting is the notion of someone not paying attention to what matters as being effectively insane.


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xparte
05-11-16, 04:49 AM
Those who are willing to hear what the Christ followers who were true contemporaries of Christ were not yet able to bear. Those who allow Christ's Grace to flow into their hearts in ever increasing abundance The ‘hard of heart’ will resist this Grace, saying: Go back to the Bible, to the literal text of the Bible, for that alone is true. This is a disavowal of the words which in Christ itself kindle light, words which we can take into our hearts: ‘I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.’ Good it will be for men when they can bear more and more in this sense: for thereby they prepare themselves for the ascent into the spiritual heights. And to these spiritual heights Christ leads the way. for the disciple who deciphers Gospels and Acts. Those whose conception of Christ bears the state of being are men who know that the words that Christ is with us to the end of time are true meaning that He is the constant Revealer of the New and at the same time its origin and source. increasing abundance The Luciferic Spirits gave man material desires; as their countermeasures the higher Beings introduced illness and suffering as the consequences of material desires and interests, to the end that he should not utterly succumb to this world of sense. And so there is exactly as much suffering and pain in the world as there is interest only in the physical and the material. The scales are held in perfect balance; the one does not outweigh the other — so many passions and desires on the one side, so much illness and pain on the other. R4C abundantly Revealed in ones redeemed balance Therefore Christ is the Power who has enabled man to turn earth-existence ultimately to good account, in other words to give karma its true configuration — for karma must be worked out on the earth.work the shit out abundantly plain TIME OUT That man finds in himself the force to profit by his karma in physical existence, that advancing evolution is possible for him — all this he owes to the working of the Christ Event, to the presence of Christ in the earthly realm.And so we see many diverse forces and beings working together in the evolution of humanity. Had Christ not come upon this earth, man would still have been in error, hardened within himself a globe on its own, knowing nothing of other beings, entirely self-enclosed, driven into that condition by error and sin.
Christ is verily the Light which leads out of error and sin, the Light which enables man to find the way upwards. What was it that was lost to man in that he descended from the spiritual world, was ensnared in desires and passions under the influence of Lucifer, and then, under his own influence, in error, illusion and lying in the earthly world? He lost direct vision of the spiritual world, he lost understanding of the spiritual world. Once there was a way to get back home Golden slumbers kiss your eyes,
Smiles awake you when you rise ;
Sleep, pretty wantons, do not cry,
And I will sing a lullaby,
Rock them, rock them, lullaby.
Care is heavy, therefore sleep you,
You are care, and care must keep you ;
Sleep, pretty wantons, do not cry,
And I will sing a lullaby,
Rock them, rock them, lullaby.
Golden Slumbers Kiss Your Eyes Poem by Thomas Dekker the fifth Beatle The ‘hard of heart’ will resist this Grace, saying: Go back to the Bible, to the literal text of the Bible, well integrity isn't in the book and grace wont jump of any page. Once there was a way to get back home Man just a globe on its own. each man has a way back home. detractors are abundantly distracted.great journeys need greater journals .

David Merrill
05-11-16, 08:44 AM
In my mind, distracted means guilted (golden calf imagery - foiled) into becoming the Individual who cannot sue under the 11th Amendment.

I will see you at lunch, my friend.


Many thanks for the inadvertent vector, Victor. OR was that planned? Wandering minds wonder endlessly...




He noticed how the link to the federal Constitution has the Original 13th Amendment. Well I spent some time down there in the Archives and the Original 13th Amendment kept on here in Colorado until 1868! This is the real agenda behind the Civil War...


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METRO organization facilities at the heart of the Fibb Spiral...


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Spiral Out - Keep Going. (https://youtu.be/wS7CZIJVxFY) I almost forgot to mention how the Treasury Vault is located on the SE Corner - the federal repository.


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You might think that is the end of the journey... I am telling you, the security guard actually caught me running my camera, inside the US Notes repository (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImbTlZVjBCM081dFE/view?usp=sharing) - check into that term, [I]repository - and was afraid to confront me about it. I suppose it is mine after all. Funny though, the transformation that came over him about rules.

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Some might say I hypnotized him? Pressure broiled chicken on the brain? - Seals in the flavor and captures the soul.

David Merrill
05-11-16, 08:47 AM
P.S. You really can't miss how the Civil War was displayed outside the Treasury Vault (video linked above)!


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I asked with the curator at the Mason Museum - he said, "God, NO!"

So I thought it kind of like when she says, "Oh, God!" or that God no, he couldn't care less...

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Here I am showing the LINCOLN scepter to a religious leader. Can you say "Mind Bomb"?

David Merrill
05-11-16, 03:06 PM
Thank you xparte;


That is very encouraging. I like that poem too. It brings the song to mind and I never tried to understand it beyond the literal.