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ADBrooks11
06-09-16, 02:17 AM
I feel that 12 USC 411 should also work for capital gains tax since the capital gain would be income. What say ye?

doug555
06-15-16, 11:08 PM
http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html)

Read my webpage above...

Did you do your demand exactly as I specify at http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html) ??

PilgrimPublisher
07-09-16, 02:49 PM
So just to clarify, the source of the income isn't the issue, it's the usage of FRNs that generate a usage fee/tax?

So one could have Line 13 (or 12) income that is not any different from Line 7 and still RLM?

But that brings up the question, how would one "create a preponderous of evidence" and state of intent since he can't has no deposit slips on which to write RLM?

doug555
07-09-16, 05:39 PM
So just to clarify, the source of the income isn't the issue, it's the usage of FRNs that generate a usage fee/tax?

So one could have Line 13 (or 12) income that is not any different from Line 7 and still RLM?

But that brings up the question, how would one "create a preponderous of evidence" and state of intent since he can't has no deposit slips on which to write RLM?

CORRECT for both questions.

For how to create non-hearsay evidence of your lawful money demand, see: http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html)

What is stopping you from writing a check to yourself and making a LMD on both your check and deposit slip?

Doesn't that non-hearsay evidence, from that point onwards, cover ALL TRANSACTIONS, including direct deposit TRANSACTIONS, and debit/credit card TRANSACTIONS, and capital gains TRANSACTIONS?

KEEP IT SIMPLE and NON-CONFRONTATIONAL.

Also see: http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html)

“Income” is not taxed. The IRC, with all of its terms and codes (Ex: "income", "capital gains", etc.), is simply used to calculate and disguise the FRN Usage Fee! "Income" is a term that applies to FRNs, not to USNs. The identity and classification of the USA dual-purpose currency (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/lawful-money-definition.html) is determined by YOUR CHOICE (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/one-dollar-two-images.html).

Your LMD redeems the FRNs into USNs, and thereby AVOIDS (not EVADES) the FRN Usage Fee (aka "Income Tax").

This CHOICE is enforced by Mt 22:20-21 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/matthew/passage/?q=matthew+22:20-21), whether we realize it or not. THEY do.

walter
07-09-16, 06:47 PM
dual-purpose currency


As simple as that.
Whats in your wallet?
Your richer then you think.

PilgrimPublisher
07-12-16, 01:16 AM
Thanks, Doug!

That all makes sense and I've read the links already- they are great!

However, this statement feels like I'm finagling/skirting the system:

What is stopping you from writing a check to yourself and making a RLM on both your check and deposit slip?

Do you mean write a check from my checking account (where my direct-deposit payroll check is deposited) to another bank account of mine for deposit that I can RLM? Or use the same checking account? Wolud I do this each pay period to keep it "transaction based"?

And the newly deposited funds are then LM?

Don't I have to redeem the "income" check from my employer? And not money already transacted to me?

This all makes sense to me except the mechanics- I can't physically RLM each payroll TRANSACTION.

ag maniac
07-12-16, 04:52 PM
....... feels like I'm finagling/skirting the system.....


I sincerely hope you don't have a residence in the City of Ogden in the State of Utah !!


Else, presuming you are genuine in your effort to obtain remedy, let me clarify that you do not redeem anything......you only make a demand for lawful money.

The redemption is supposed to be done by the accountants at the IRS when they take the figures from your annual voluntary self assessment and pass those along to Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew, who then includes those figures in his "monthly statement of the public debt of the united states (http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/mspd/2016/opdm062016.pdf)" to congress (see "Table III | Other Debt | US Notes" on pg 13).

Of course, if you want things done correctly, ya gotta do 'em yourself.....so it never hurts to alert Jake annually in a personal note how much he should include on that report as your contribution.


If you're truly hung up on this direct deposit demand for lawful money, I'm sure the bank has an online presence where you may view your balance and transactions....probably even has a function for you to comment on each transaction.....so use it on the direct deposits....print off a copy before sending the demand message, and you're on your way. Don't forget to print off copies of your handwritten checks and assorted deposit slips while you're there.....now enter all those bits of pulp into your evidence repository for safekeeping.

Probably wouldn't hurt for you to sign everything "Lawful Money" either....

PilgrimPublisher
07-12-16, 11:01 PM
If you're truly hung up on this direct deposit demand for lawful money, I'm sure the bank has an online presence where you may view your balance and transactions....probably even has a function for you to comment on each transaction.....so use it on the direct deposits....print off a copy before sending the demand message, and you're on your way. Don't forget to print off copies of your handwritten checks and assorted deposit slips while you're there.....now enter all those bits of pulp into your evidence repository for safekeeping.

Brilliant idea! Thanks. I'll give it a go.

I'm not "hung up on it"- just want to do my legal part to truly reduce the national debt.

doug555
07-13-16, 09:22 PM
Thanks, Doug!

That all makes sense and I've read the links already- they are great!

However, this statement feels like I'm finagling/skirting the system:


Do you mean write a check from my checking account (where my direct-deposit payroll check is deposited) to another bank account of mine for deposit that I can RLM? Or use the same checking account? Wolud I do this each pay period to keep it "transaction based"?

And the newly deposited funds are then LM?

Don't I have to redeem the "income" check from my employer? And not money already transacted to me?

This all makes sense to me except the mechanics- I can't physically RLM each payroll TRANSACTION.



Yes... let me clarify.

1. Write a check from another of your checking accounts to yourself, and vice-versa. Then this covers BOTH accounts.
2. Write a check to anyone... with LMD demand on it. The cancelled checks should show up on your monthly bank statements. Save a PDF copy of these.
3. Deposit some CASH with LMD on deposit slip. The cancelled deposit slips should show up on your monthly bank statements. Save a PDF copy of these.

The above options create Non-Hearsay Evidence of the START DATE that you began your LMD for ALL transactions.

Repeat the above as often as desired to create a PREPONDERANCE of EVIDENCE of your LMDs, that you then upload to any free Web Cloud drive that is then cited on your 1040 Return for the IRS to easily inspect.

PilgrimPublisher
07-19-16, 11:17 PM
Yes... let me clarify.

1. Write a check from another of your checking accounts to yourself, and vice-versa. Then this covers BOTH accounts.
2. Write a check to anyone... with LMD demand on it. The cancelled checks should show up on your monthly bank statements. Save a PDF copy of these.
3. Deposit some CASH with LMD on deposit slip. The cancelled deposit slips should show up on your monthly bank statements. Save a PDF copy of these.

The above options create Non-Hearsay Evidence of the START DATE that you began your LMD for ALL transactions.

Repeat the above as often as desired to create a PREPONDERANCE of EVIDENCE of your LMDs, that you then upload to any free Web Cloud drive that is then cited on your 1040 Return for the IRS to easily inspect.



Done. Deposited $ into my credit union checking account with verbiage on both check and deposit slip. No questions asked. The teller was very young guy- didn't even blink an eye.

So now I can write checks against that checking acct that qualify for 1040 line 21.

doug555
07-20-16, 12:07 AM
Done. Deposited $ into my credit union checking account with verbiage on both check and deposit slip. No questions asked. The teller was very young guy- didn't even blink an eye.

So now I can write checks against that checking acct that qualify for 1040 line 21.

Not out-going amounts from said checking account. That would be double-dipping IMO.

See excerpt below from http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html)


From the moment one starts writing “lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all transactions 12 USC 411, 95a(2)” on the front of one’s checks and deposit slips, underneath one’s name and address in the upper left-hand corner of these documents, then one can start subtracting those transaction amounts on the IRS 1040 forms (out-going amounts of LAWFUL money excluded). This can result in a substantial refund when the amounts of all said transactions from that point on are subtracted from one’s gross income.


All transactions that are legitimately presumed to be transacted in the default private fiat currency (FRNs), should be included in the total amount on Line 21.

These would include, for example, all of the payroll check withholding amounts that are derivatives of the Gross Pay amount, and correctly presumed to have been ledgered/denominated in FRNs.

PilgrimPublisher
07-20-16, 12:23 AM
Correct. I meant just the $ amount of the deposit is RLMed. The checks I'll write against that are just to pay bills- but will not (cannot) RLM.

So:
Employer payroll check -> direct deposit to my on-line acct (can't physically RLM since I have no deposit slip) -> write check to another checking acct at credit union using RLM -> write checks to pay bills from the credit union acct w/o RLM. One $ amount only once which will be claimed on line 21.

My point was I'll write checks to pay bills against RLMed acct and not my direct-deposit acct since I can't physically write on it.

Thanks for following up, Doug, many thanks!!

doug555
07-20-16, 01:03 AM
Correct. I meant just the $ amount of the deposit is RLMed. The checks I'll write against that are just to pay bills- but will not (cannot) RLM.

So:
Employer payroll check -> direct deposit to my on-line acct (can't physically RLM since I have no deposit slip) -> write check to another checking acct at credit union using RLM -> write checks to pay bills from the credit union acct w/o RLM. One $ amount only once which will be claimed on line 21.

My point was I'll write checks to pay bills against RLMed acct and not my direct-deposit acct since I can't physically write on it.

Thanks for following up, Doug, many thanks!!

You're welcome!!

But if you wrote a check with LMD on it from that online account, why doesn't that cover all future online deposits to it?

PilgrimPublisher
07-21-16, 12:43 AM
You're welcome!!

But if you wrote a check with LMD on it from that online account, why doesn't that cover all future online deposits to it?

I don't know- i guess it's because i think each paycheck coming in must be RLMed so that specific amount is LM. I think of it as directional and specific- not just 'touching' the account. So i understand only the $ moved are LM; not any remaining $ in the original acct.

Are you saying that the total $ in the on-line acct is now LM because a RLM transaction was done against it? That would simplify matters.

doug555
07-21-16, 01:58 AM
I don't know- i guess it's because i think each paycheck coming in must be RLMed so that specific amount is LM. I think of it as directional and specific- not just 'touching' the account. So i understand only the $ moved are LM; not any remaining $ in the original acct.

Are you saying that the total $ in the on-line acct is now LM because a RLM transaction was done against it? That would simplify matters.

YES!!! That's why I state the LMD as “lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all transactions 12 USC 411, 95a(2)”

Now, to create a PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE, Write one check/month FROM that online account, with LMD on the front of the check, just like it is done on the deposit strips.

http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html)


Be sure to save the online check evidence to a PDF file for uploading to your own online folder that will be shared with the IRS.

PilgrimPublisher
07-21-16, 05:29 PM
YES!!! That's why I state the LMD as “lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all transactions 12 USC 411, 95a(2)”

Now, to create a PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE, Write one check/month FROM that online account, with LMD on the front of the check, just like it is done on the deposit strips.

http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html)


Be sure to save the online check evidence to a PDF file for uploading to your own online folder that will be shared with the IRS.



Ok, got it!

I thought "all transactions" meant every check/amount I claim on line 21 must be specifically RLMed.

So as of 7/12/16 all my payroll direct deposit can be considered because I've declared, "lawful money... for ALL transactions..."

ag maniac
07-21-16, 06:19 PM
PilgrimPublisher, consider this when claiming "All Transactions" --> In addition to the payroll direct deposits & the other bank acct you maintain, you're also claiming the transactions involving the Social Security and Medicare contributions/tax. Those are deducted from the gross pay also.

In essence for most W-2 employees on a form 1040, the amount listed on line 7 will be the same number on line 21(albeit negative)

doug555
07-21-16, 08:45 PM
PilgrimPublisher, consider this when claiming "All Transactions" --> In addition to the payroll direct deposits & the other bank acct you maintain, you're also claiming the transactions involving the Social Security and Medicare contributions/tax. Those are deducted from the gross pay also.

In essence for most W-2 employees on a form 1040, the amount listed on line 7 will be the same number on line 21(albeit negative)

Exactly!

Except that Line 21 amount will ALWAYS be greater than the Line 7 amount, and will ALWAYS be a NEGATIVE amount (to reduce the presumption of FRN-usage amount thereof). And this should ALWAYS make Line 22 ("Net Income") NEGATIVE also.

This is because the derivative transactions involving the Social Security and Medicare contributions/tax are always added to the primary transaction of the Gross Wages (Line 7), because they also were PRESUMED to be denominated in FRNs - the default national currency!

That is, unless the Employer has made a LMD for all transactions on the public record and provided you a NOTICE of same.

Let me know if you ever find one!

PilgrimPublisher
07-22-16, 12:08 AM
Exactly!

Except that Line 21 amount will ALWAYS be greater than the Line 7 amount, and will ALWAYS be a NEGATIVE amount (to reduce the presumption of FRN-usage amount thereof). And this should ALWAYS make Line 22 ("Net Income") NEGATIVE also.

This is because the derivative transactions involving the Social Security and Medicare contributions/tax are always added to the primary transaction of the Gross Wages (Line 7), because they also were PRESUMED to be denominated in FRNs - the default national currency!

That is, unless the Employer has made a LMD for all transactions on the public record and provided you a NOTICE of same.

Let me know if you ever find one!




Thanks Doug and AG! Truths to ponder!

So... likewise, for investments, I would write a check from my brokerage acct to either checking acct and RLM.

doug555
07-22-16, 12:38 AM
You got it!!! You thereby memorialize your LMD on the record! Save the cancelled checks!

BTW: I also had a brokerage account... and its LMD "reduction" amounts for dividends and capital gains were both honored! For 5 consecutive years!

Equitable Estoppel (http://www.jurisdictionary.com/SidePages/Samples/pDefenses.pdf) is now in effect! and on the record at Federal and State levels! For all of you who do LMDs!!!

And the "line on the sand" is Mt 22:21 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/matthew/22-21.html).

Mt 22:15-21 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/matthew/passage/?q=matthew+22:15-21) is THE RULE that all the host in heaven and earth must abide by now.

PilgrimPublisher
07-23-16, 03:04 PM
You got it!!! You thereby memorialize your LMD on the record! Save the cancelled checks!

BTW: I also had a brokerage account... and its LMD "reduction" amounts for dividends and capital gains were both honored! For 5 consecutive years!

Equitable Estoppel (http://www.jurisdictionary.com/SidePages/Samples/pDefenses.pdf) is now in effect! and on the record at Federal and State levels! For all of you who do LMDs!!!

And the "line on the sand" is Mt 22:21 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/matthew/22-21.html).

Mt 22:15-21 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/matthew/passage/?q=matthew+22:15-21) is THE RULE that all the host in heaven and earth must abide by now.



Wonderful!

I've often wondered why this "line in the sand" is honored yet we see such lawlessness in other areas of the federal gov't? The Scripture gives me faith that this truly is being honored.

Chex
07-23-16, 03:21 PM
Wonderful! I've often wondered why this "line in the sand" is honored yet we see such lawlessness in other areas of the federal gov't? The Scripture gives me faith that this truly is being honored.

Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you. For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. And there is nothing buried that will not be raised." – Gospel of Thomas 5

doug555
07-23-16, 03:58 PM
Wonderful!

I've often wondered why this "line in the sand" is honored yet we see such lawlessness in other areas of the federal gov't? The Scripture gives me faith that this truly is being honored.



Yes, and also because The Adversary knows what happened (as a precedent for TODAY) the last time he violated TITLE (ownership) of God's people via Pharoah in Egypt.

It is NOT just a coincidence that Washington, DC has so much symbolism patterned after Egypt.

The plagues on Egypt then, were purposely set as a TYPE and WARNING to modern Egypt TODAY.

The Adversary knows this and that is why he is keeping his "agents" in line today... to preclude another "setback" .

The Adversary KNOWS that Holyday #2 (https://pentecostnation.wordpress.com/) is the next BIG EVENT in The Father's Master Plan (https://pentecostnation.wordpress.com/the-plan/), and he, for sure, does not want to provide a "violation" to trigger another such "Divine Intervention" that would lead to his losing control over this world, and especially "the redeemed" Firstfruits.


Ex 5:1-2 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/nas/exodus/passage/?q=exodus+5:1-2)
1 And afterward Moses and Aaron came and said to Pharaoh, "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, 'Let My people go that they may celebrate a feast to Me in the wilderness (https://pentecostnation.wordpress.com/holyday-3-the-pentecost-nation/).' " 2 But Pharaoh said, "Who is the LORD that I should obey His voice to let Israel go? I do not know the LORD, and besides, I will not let Israel go."

David Merrill
07-23-16, 04:08 PM
The Adversary KNOWS that Holyday #2 is the next BIG EVENT in The Father's Master Plan, and he, for sure, does not want to provide a "violation" to trigger such another "Divine Intervention" that would lead to his losing control over this world, and especially "the redeemed" Firstfruits.





I put a rough schedule out there:


Service of Process - August 13, 2001
Thirty Day Judgment - September 11, 2001
Bankers' Holiday (NYSE shut down) - September 11 - 14, 2001
Default on Forgiveness - July 15th, 2016
Notice of Global Lien - August 13th, 2016
(10/4/16 Yom Kippur - Judgment Day) 70th Jubilee since the invasion of Canaan, 9th of Av - August 13th, 2016...



https://youtu.be/6QOgD2wiqz8

PilgrimPublisher
07-26-16, 02:02 AM
I put a rough schedule out there:





https://youtu.be/6QOgD2wiqz8

Just wondering, does RLM disqualify one from receiving social security? I heard that once one builds up a certain SS payment amount based on salary it can't go down or be lost.

If one is closer to retirement than not it would seem to be a waste to not receive anything after paying in all those years.

Michael Joseph
07-26-16, 02:12 AM
Just wondering, does RLM disqualify one from receiving social security? I heard that once one builds up a certain SS payment amount based on salary it can't go down or be lost.

If one is closer to retirement than not it would seem to be a waste to not receive anything after paying in all those years.

just the opposite. When one files and shows how much one paid into the SSA - one in no way is disqualified when on has worked 40 quarters.

an insurance policy can be paid if the qualifications for payment are made. Since you have paid the premiums, there is no reason why one should not collect on the benefit. However, if one does not make a claim upon those benefits, then they are not coming.

Shalom,
MJ

David Merrill
07-26-16, 06:33 AM
So many patriots feel the SSN signifies more than an insurance policy. And guess what; I believe it does! - For those who believe it does...

Did you ever think about that?

When I got rid of my SSN the method was so simple. The office manager explained how. If you quit writing it down or saying it, then you do not have it.

Forty Quarters are Paid In. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImdDBMWmIwR3JONTQ/view?usp=sharing)

It may be that listening to my belief set about SSI will help you out. Maybe not. I think it will.

I have an affidavit and according to Colorado law, I do not have to produce a SSN to get a driver license (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImcUdFWkNCQmtqX3M/view?usp=sharing). But they put a NOTICE in the Driver Manual that you have to study to pass the exam...

Published Rules of Court withstand the law.

I am in their court, hoping for the privilege of not being arrested by the Sons of Seth (men of violence) as a Son of Cain (violent man). Miracles come out of this. All things work for good, and it just keeps getting better and better.

We are all undergoing neuroregenesis. Some simply find it painful. The ego has a lot of people addicted to their thing. That's a thing; Your Thing. If your doctor gives you a Thing then you can get free schooling and pretty much get a job, provided that state law has not already filled Personnel with other people's THINGS. As your THING progresses then you will have jobs invented that you can do so that you will still be productive.

My THING is biocosmetric sonoluminescence. I reverse things.

Look what happened for one suitor:

4345


But as I recall, Michelle does not use this as an excuse to run stop signs. If she did, I would not ride with her... Nope!

PilgrimPublisher
08-10-16, 12:51 AM
Did my 2nd RLM deposit the other day. Same credit union, different teller. This time, she asked what it was that I wrote on the check and deposit slip? I said it was US statutes I was using for my financial records. She said, oh, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a change of address.

Made copies and have them on google drive.

Michael Joseph
08-10-16, 03:35 AM
Did my 2nd RLM deposit the other day. Same credit union, different teller. This time, she asked what it was that I wrote on the check and deposit slip? I said it was US statutes I was using for my financial records. She said, oh, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a change of address.

Made copies and have them on google drive.

Nothing compares to experience.

doug555
08-15-16, 12:07 AM
Did my 2nd RLM deposit the other day. Same credit union, different teller. This time, she asked what it was that I wrote on the check and deposit slip? I said it was US statutes I was using for my financial records. She said, oh, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a change of address.

Made copies and have them on google drive.

Way to go!!!