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logjam
04-15-11, 06:30 PM
Hello again group...

Since I am in the "freshman" class, I am still in the de-bunking/learning stage.
You accumulate so much baggage over the course of many years of study, and obviously not everything will be legitimate... especially in the "Patriot/paytriot" community.

One of the techniques many have talked about on Talkshoes, blogs, etc. is of the Open and Notorious Notice set up as a public record in one's local newspaper. That of publishing a legal notice for 3 weeks, informing the world that you (I) am NOT a US Citizen, not a 14th amendment citizen, etc. with a cut-off date for rebuttals. I heard someone refer to it as a "condition precedent".

I would like to know your opinions on this. It seems that if something like this is done, and you get a certified copy recorded in your local county, this would also be something to include in your evidence jacket.

Am I totally off-base on this, or does this idea have merit?

Thank you all...

David Merrill
04-15-11, 09:51 PM
I have done such things and believe they have merit.

Page 1 (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_approbation1.jpg), Page 2 (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_approbation2.jpg), Page 3 (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_approbation3.jpg).

This Declaration has a basis in understood published boundaries. It even stands on Matthew THORNTON who signed the Declaration late, by approval of the congress. So that means I have effectively signed the DoI too. - By approbation. Interestingly I wanted a copy of this from my clerk and they would not give it to me. I requested they call the sheriff to investigate. They mulled around acting like they were trying to find it and I remembered the parking meter so I walked out, directly toward the sheriff's office across the street to where I was parked. By the time I came back in, it was there and everybody had split. I found somebody and it they gave it to me no charge. I think they thought I had gone to go get a sheriff deputy.

Actually though, I don't really think this has much merit if you are going to try asserting stuff you are not. Compose your Notice of positive assertions about who and what you are.

Somebody shared an interesting poem (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7508/companioncreator.pdf)with me once and I immediately spotted the author's name. I don't think it is the same man but like to imagine there are some things that exist independent of time.


http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8152/matthewthorntonsignatur.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6245/usadeclarationofindepen.jpg

logjam
04-16-11, 01:47 AM
Thank you David for sharing that. If I may, did you post this in the legal section of a newspaper? I understand one can "open and notoriously" post on the county courthouse public bulletin board (I recall hearing about nailing the notice to the courthouse entrance) as an alternative to the paper. But once the notice has run for three weeks, get a certified copy from the paper and record it with the county clerk. Is this how you did it? If not, please share if possible.

Thanks.

Logjam

David Merrill
04-16-11, 11:33 AM
Thank you David for sharing that. If I may, did you post this in the legal section of a newspaper? I understand one can "open and notoriously" post on the county courthouse public bulletin board (I recall hearing about nailing the notice to the courthouse entrance) as an alternative to the paper. But once the notice has run for three weeks, get a certified copy from the paper and record it with the county clerk. Is this how you did it? If not, please share if possible.

Thanks.

Logjam

That much verbiage is very expensive (http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6430/docketscreen12611.jpg). It is too much for Classifieds.


http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6181/chinatodayresponse.jpg

Calculate that at $637 and rising quickly as Congress executes default by not raising the Debt Ceiling.

What comes to mind is some abatement process from many years ago. I used clear packaging tape to put up Ten Day Notices (5) in front of the county clerk and recorder, courthouse, post office, library and the major politician church downtown. Nobody touched any one of the notices until Day 11! That one in front of the courthouse, the clerk of court (it was outside his window for the ten days) clipped it down and published a plea at the county clerk and recorder for me to retract it. [Maybe I will get that whole thing while I am downtown; it has some merits as the county attorney issued a gag order on my clerk for that.]

Interest stuff though. The notices sat there for the ten days by law, without anybody touching them - right in front of the courthouse too.



Regards,

David Merrill.