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allodial
06-30-11, 02:38 PM
Is it all conceivable that specifying terms of payment in lawful money triggers HJR-192 whereas leaving the terms in "FRNs" vague as to the specific type of accounting or financial units fails to trigger the applicability of HJR-192?

shikamaru
06-30-11, 03:12 PM
Has HJR-192 been repealed?

allodial
06-30-11, 03:31 PM
http://www.tapesite.com/index17.html

shikamaru
06-30-11, 06:55 PM
May we have a copy of HJR-192 posted?

shikamaru
06-30-11, 07:18 PM
Not to detract from the thread but wouldn't the Exchange Stabilization Fund (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_Stabilization_Fund) be a slush fund?

David Merrill
06-30-11, 10:03 PM
May we have a copy of HJR-192 posted?

Click Here (http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6747/hjr192.pdf).

David Merrill
06-30-11, 10:28 PM
Has HJR-192 been repealed?


Not exactly. But the Emergency ended a while ago - except for stipulations protecting the Fed from a run - like large numbers of people redeeming lawful money.

http://Friends-n-Family-Research.info/FFR/Merrill_PL94-412.jpg
http://Friends-n-Family-Research.info/FFR/Merrill_PL94-412_stipulation.jpg

David Merrill
06-30-11, 10:30 PM
Is it all conceivable that specifying terms of payment in lawful money triggers HJR-192 whereas leaving the terms in "FRNs" vague as to the specific type of accounting or financial units fails to trigger the applicability of HJR-192?


In context of my two posts above, can you rephrase that question?

I think of HJR-192 as a supersedeas bond - a bond on an appeal. Meaning if you endorse private credit, you are convicted of counterfeiting money through fractional lending, your conviction goes into appeal and HJR-192 keeps you from having to report to prison. But I do not know if that helps you with your question.



Regards,

David Merrill.

David Merrill
06-30-11, 10:46 PM
This video (http://www.presstv.ir/Program/173807.html) may shine some light - I don't know.

Chex
07-01-11, 01:23 PM
Thanks for this site (http://www.tapesite.com/)allodial, this was in my file.

The Sacrament of Penance (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11618c.htm) goes with the word debt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04663b.htm)

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allodial
07-03-11, 07:47 PM
In context of my two posts above, can you rephrase that question?

I think of HJR-192 as a supersedeas bond - a bond on an appeal. Meaning if you endorse private credit, you are convicted of counterfeiting money through fractional lending, your conviction goes into appeal and HJR-192 keeps you from having to report to prison. But I do not know if that helps you with your question.



Regards,

David Merrill.

Or perhaps HJR-192 is soley to protect the fiduciaries in the Government of the United States from having to give actual gold or silver coin.