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Ares
09-28-11, 12:38 PM
Hello all,

David I remember you from Goldismoney.info I've been following you since 2007. Now that I've got more of a grasp of how the process works I would like to put it into motion.

The only thing I still don't understand is the filing. Do I still file each year, but just placing zero income while attaching receipts proof that I am demanding lawful money?

I am planning on making it a clean break and demanding lawful money at the beginning of next year. File my usual way get my return and be done with paying into a system I do not believe in and feel as though it enslaves me and my fellow man.

Ares
10-21-11, 04:29 PM
Anyone?

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David Merrill
10-21-11, 07:32 PM
Technically you do not get any kind of exemption from the Income Tax until you start making your demand for lawful money. Starting it on January 1 is a rather neat way to keep track though. You will not file for a refund of your withholdings though, not until the deadline April 15, 2013.

Ares
10-25-11, 12:31 PM
David,

Thanks, I realize that. Why I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary until January 1st just to make it easier to keep track of when I "broke away". I'll be filing for this year obviously to get my return for 2011. But for 2012 I won't be filing if I understand it correctly because I won't be having any withholdings.

David Merrill
10-25-11, 10:03 PM
David,

Thanks, I realize that. Why I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary until January 1st just to make it easier to keep track of when I "broke away". I'll be filing for this year obviously to get my return for 2011. But for 2012 I won't be filing if I understand it correctly because I won't be having any withholdings.

If you are self-employed or 1099 (contractor) then you should consider the risk you run of not filing at all is that the IRS agent may make an assessment on information available from your boss (client(s)).

EZrhythm
10-26-11, 07:34 PM
Rebut any information that could have possibly been communicated to the IRS starting with one's name.
NOW let's see who is obligated to submit a return or any other hoop jumping instruction, rule, regulation, code, etc.

***Notify IRS or any desired agency [UNITED STATES ____, STATE OF ____, COUNTY OF ____, CITY OF ____] of change of address:

AFFIDAVIT ANDNOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS

Notice to principal is notice to agent. Notice to agent is notice to principal.

I, [First Middle] am the title holder of the entity FIRST MIDDLE LAST.
Any writing or record for the entity, [FIRST MIDDLE LAST] shall be signed and properly addressed to me exactly Sas stated below. Send to:
C/O First-Middle
132 Main Street
City, State [No ZIP]
Non-Domestic without the U.S.

Failure to do so shall void any and all communication or writing and shall be deemed as me having not received and not having knowledge of such communication, writing or record.

All Rights Reserved; [First Middle] [Great Seal or fingerprint over a portion of signature]

[Jurat]
State of ________________________
County of ______________________ } ss.
Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on on this __________________ day of _____________________, 20_____, by __________________________, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person(s) who appeared before me.
. ___________________________________
(seal) Signature



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Under YOUR oath (jurat), have this statement witnessed by two or more or have notarized.
Record in public at the county, in a newspaper for 30 days or at http://www.nationalrepublicregistry.com/

Witnesses may create their own Great Seal or use thumbprint.

Receive certified copies and send to any desired agency.

Optional address:
First Middle
C/O General Post [Not General Delivery. No PO box]
Susanville Station / Station #5 / Main Office [Use post office name or number, no street address]
City, State [No ZIP]
Non-Domestic without the U.S.

This optional address may be utilized to notify agencies while continuing to receive mail at another address.

Reference for words highlighted as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code;
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm#s1-202
Some words are defined and some are contained in the definitions.

motla68
10-26-11, 09:39 PM
Rebut any information that could have possibly been communicated to the IRS starting with one's name.
NOW let's see who is obligated to submit a return or any other hoop jumping instruction, rule, regulation, code, etc.

***Notify IRS or any desired agency [UNITED STATES ____, STATE OF ____, COUNTY OF ____, CITY OF ____] of change of address:

AFFIDAVIT ANDNOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS

Notice to principal is notice to agent. Notice to agent is notice to principal.

I, [First Middle] am the title holder of the entity FIRST MIDDLE LAST.
Any writing or record for the entity, [FIRST MIDDLE LAST] shall be signed and properly addressed to me exactly Sas stated below. Send to:
C/O First-Middle
132 Main Street
City, State [No ZIP]
Non-Domestic without the U.S.

Failure to do so shall void any and all communication or writing and shall be deemed as me having not received and not having knowledge of such communication, writing or record.

All Rights Reserved; [First Middle] [Great Seal or fingerprint over a portion of signature]

[Jurat]
State of ________________________
County of ______________________ } ss.
Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on on this __________________ day of _____________________, 20_____, by __________________________, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person(s) who appeared before me.
. ___________________________________
(seal) Signature



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Under YOUR oath (jurat), have this statement witnessed by two or more or have notarized.
Record in public at the county, in a newspaper for 30 days or at http://www.nationalrepublicregistry.com/

Witnesses may create their own Great Seal or use thumbprint.

Receive certified copies and send to any desired agency.

Optional address:
First Middle
C/O General Post [Not General Delivery. No PO box]
Susanville Station / Station #5 / Main Office [Use post office name or number, no street address]
City, State [No ZIP]
Non-Domestic without the U.S.

This optional address may be utilized to notify agencies while continuing to receive mail at another address.

Reference for words highlighted as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code;
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm#s1-202
Some words are defined and some are contained in the definitions.

Hey EZ, this is just opinion based on my own results;

Once the status of your named Estate is changed it is not really a matter of coming against you. In the past you have been reported taking federal reserve notes and then when it is found that you have not returned the receipts then the named Estate is taxed until you correct the mistake. It is not a matter of what they did, it is a matter of what we did.
Now that I have corrected this mistake by returning old receipts and now claiming the lawful money things go much smoother now, I can fill out some forms now without signing them, turn them in and things get done anyway. As you can see on posts from other recent thread have even taken it a step further now and corrected the elections for the named estate, rather then be burdened now of manifestations the weight had been lifted even further off me shoulders since we embarked on the old Coresource Solution group, that is gone now but the research between the like minded continues.
Feel free to PM me through the group or email me.

Peace and blessings upon you brother.

Moxie
04-22-13, 09:28 PM
Rebut any information that could have possibly been communicated to the IRS starting with one's name.
NOW let's see who is obligated to submit a return or any other hoop jumping instruction, rule, regulation, code, etc.

***Notify IRS or any desired agency [UNITED STATES ____, STATE OF ____, COUNTY OF ____, CITY OF ____] of change of address:

AFFIDAVIT ANDNOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS

Notice to principal is notice to agent. Notice to agent is notice to principal.

I, [First Middle] am the title holder of the entity FIRST MIDDLE LAST.
Any writing or record for the entity, [FIRST MIDDLE LAST] shall be signed and properly addressed to me exactly Sas stated below. Send to:
C/O First-Middle
132 Main Street
City, State [No ZIP]
Non-Domestic without the U.S.

Failure to do so shall void any and all communication or writing and shall be deemed as me having not received and not having knowledge of such communication, writing or record.

All Rights Reserved; [First Middle] [Great Seal or fingerprint over a portion of signature]

[Jurat]
State of ________________________
County of ______________________ } ss.
Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on on this __________________ day of _____________________, 20_____, by __________________________, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person(s) who appeared before me.
. ___________________________________
(seal) Signature



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Under YOUR oath (jurat), have this statement witnessed by two or more or have notarized.
Record in public at the county, in a newspaper for 30 days or at http://www.nationalrepublicregistry.com/

Witnesses may create their own Great Seal or use thumbprint.

Receive certified copies and send to any desired agency.

Optional address:
First Middle
C/O General Post [Not General Delivery. No PO box]
Susanville Station / Station #5 / Main Office [Use post office name or number, no street address]
City, State [No ZIP]
Non-Domestic without the U.S.

This optional address may be utilized to notify agencies while continuing to receive mail at another address.

Reference for words highlighted as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code;
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm#s1-202
Some words are defined and some are contained in the definitions.

Hi, and question:

The [FIRST LAST] in brackets -- is this to be bracketed in the actual letter, like brackets around zip codes? I noticed one example is not bracketed. Not sure if this is significant.

Is it beneficial to send to a local IRS office, or is it more beneficial to send it to a certain one? Thank you!

EZrhythm
04-29-13, 04:39 PM
That must be my improper use of brackets in the example. No the brackets are not used on the executed document.

For those who use brackets around ZIP codes, I don't recommend it. Just leave the ZIP off all together since it is not required anyway.

For a change of address notice I would send it to where one would otherwise be sending a 1040 form if they were subject to such.

Bentley
04-30-13, 12:38 AM
Technically you do not get any kind of exemption from the Income Tax until you start making your demand for lawful money. Starting it on January 1 is a rather neat way to keep track though. You will not file for a refund of your withholdings though, not until the deadline April 15, 2013.
Hello David,

Question: Do you see any advantage for those who have automatic salary deposits to checking accounts to write a check payable to CASH, cashing said check then re-depositing the money with "redeemed for lawful money 12 U.S.C. 411" stamped on the bills, after copying said bills to establish a lawful money trail in an attempt to establish competent record keeping for legal tender converted to lawful money?


Thanks in advance for your opinion, David.

Bentley

EZrhythm
04-30-13, 02:37 AM
I know you are asking David but I believe he will state just to declare your demand to the bank by written NOTICE. This would become a blanket demand across all types of deposits.

Bentley
05-01-13, 02:02 PM
I know you are asking David but I believe he will state just to declare your demand to the bank by written NOTICE. This would become a blanket demand across all types of deposits.

Thanks for your answer, EZ.

I can see 2 immediate benefits for doing this. 1). Physically stamping bills reduces cash-on-hand for reserve purposes and effectively takes the actual bills out of circulation.
2)Raises the curosity quotient of lower-level bank employees to possibly inquire what this is all about.

Bentley

mikecz
05-01-13, 02:47 PM
Thanks for your answer, EZ.

I can see 2 immediate benefits for doing this. 1). Physically stamping bills reduces cash-on-hand for reserve purposes and effectively takes the actual bills out of circulation.
2)Raises the curosity quotient of lower-level bank employees to possibly inquire what this is all about.

Bentley

Ok, here's a question though... Whats the difference between fractional reserve banking, and, how banks used to operate. For instance, before the federal reserve, it was my impression banks were always allowed to lend of money they had on deposit to other banks, create notes, loan to it's depositors etc. There were still runs on banks, because indeed, they didn't have the cash on hand to supply the demand for cash from their account holders. Instead of letting them fail, in 1907 then again in 1913, it was propositioned that the federal reserve could just print the FRNs to supply the need until the bank can get back on it's feet, with interest of course.

I guess, now maybe someone can clarify this, whereas before, say the bank needed at least 100,000 in deposits, all it had to carry was say, for ease of numbers, 10% or 10,000 to cover demand. It could loan out the remaining 90,000. Now, I believe with fractional reserve banking, if the bank had 100,000 in deposits, it doesn't need to keep 20,000 behind, it can lend out up to 10x what it has in deposits correct, so around 1,000,000? The fractional reserve part sort of turns the idea of banking on it's head. This is how the currency becomes elastic correct?, the banks now have the power to "create" money based on deposits, that money doesn't have to exist first... The demand doesn't necessarily effect whether the bank can legally carry a fraction in cash of what it lends out, what the demand does is it removes the power of the bank to "create" money through the money multiplier. I guess the specifics here are in the definition of the term reserve, because to me it can have 2 different meanings.

Interesting term though, fractional reserve, every time the money is expanded, it's really worth a fraction of when it started...

Freed Gerdes
05-01-13, 04:04 PM
Ok, here's a question though... Whats the difference between fractional reserve banking, and, how banks used to operate.

I guess, now maybe someone can clarify this, whereas before, say the bank needed at least 100,000 in deposits, all it had to carry was say, for ease of numbers, 10% or 10,000 to cover demand.

Interesting term though, fractional reserve, every time the money is expanded, it's really worth a fraction of when it started...

Since the formation of the Bank of England in 1694, all major/central banks have committed the crime of fractional reserve lending, ie, loaning out money they don't have. The 'reserve' requirements now for FedRes member banks, is zero for the first $10million loaned, then 3% for the next $100million, then 7% for amounts higher. Each bank branch gets its own reserve account, and there are 8,000+ such banks, so the 'reserve balance' is somewhat less than 3%, or leverage of 30 to 1. This is fraud, and represents the transfer of wealth from those who earn to those who steal. The unholy alliance between criminal bankers and venal politicians is destroying civilization, and rolling back all the progress made in improving the quality of life for the common man. Power corrupts, and the banker/politician nexus is the center of this corruption.

As to stamping Lawful Money on the currency, not one person in a thousand knows what this means, and it has almost no effect on anything past the original transaction conducted by the stamper. The banks ignore the stamp, and the citizenry are so ignorant that it means nothing to them. The banks count the stamped cash as reserves as though it had never been stamped; besides, hardly any cash is used in our present society - 54% of transactions are now done by computer tracking of digital balances, and half the remainder by checks. Only retail businesses deposit cash, and their accounts are not demanded in lawful money.

mikecz
05-01-13, 04:46 PM
Since the formation of the Bank of England in 1694, all major/central banks have committed the crime of fractional reserve lending, ie, loaning out money they don't have. The 'reserve' requirements now for FedRes member banks, is zero for the first $10million loaned, then 3% for the next $100million, then 7% for amounts higher. Each bank branch gets its own reserve account, and there are 8,000+ such banks, so the 'reserve balance' is somewhat less than 3%, or leverage of 30 to 1. This is fraud, and represents the transfer of wealth from those who earn to those who steal. The unholy alliance between criminal bankers and venal politicians is destroying civilization, and rolling back all the progress made in improving the quality of life for the common man. Power corrupts, and the banker/politician nexus is the center of this corruption.

As to stamping Lawful Money on the currency, not one person in a thousand knows what this means, and it has almost no effect on anything past the original transaction conducted by the stamper. The banks ignore the stamp, and the citizenry are so ignorant that it means nothing to them. The banks count the stamped cash as reserves as though it had never been stamped; besides, hardly any cash is used in our present society - 54% of transactions are now done by computer tracking of digital balances, and half the remainder by checks. Only retail businesses deposit cash, and their accounts are not demanded in lawful money.


Ok, this video is interesting...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dERCu8nRkJU

He states the FRN is a dual purpose note, and goes into the description of a check? We are state banks, or our person is a bank at least. Do we/can we issue fiat currency? Do we/can we have an account with the federal reserve?

Bentley
05-01-13, 07:10 PM
Since the formation of the Bank of England in 1694, all major/central banks have committed the crime of fractional reserve lending, ie, loaning out money they don't have. The 'reserve' requirements now for FedRes member banks, is zero for the first $10million loaned, then 3% for the next $100million, then 7% for amounts higher. Each bank branch gets its own reserve account, and there are 8,000+ such banks, so the 'reserve balance' is somewhat less than 3%, or leverage of 30 to 1. This is fraud, and represents the transfer of wealth from those who earn to those who steal. The unholy alliance between criminal bankers and venal politicians is destroying civilization, and rolling back all the progress made in improving the quality of life for the common man. Power corrupts, and the banker/politician nexus is the center of this corruption.

As to stamping Lawful Money on the currency, not one person in a thousand knows what this means, and it has almost no effect on anything past the original transaction conducted by the stamper. The banks ignore the stamp, and the citizenry are so ignorant that it means nothing to them. The banks count the stamped cash as reserves as though it had never been stamped; besides, hardly any cash is used in our present society - 54% of transactions are now done by computer tracking of digital balances, and half the remainder by checks. Only retail businesses deposit cash, and their accounts are not demanded in lawful money.

Freed,

You're probably right, but at least the bills will probably get flagged as 'mutulated' and taken out of circulation that way, for whatever that's worth.

Here's an interesting video about the Fed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfpO-WBz_mw

Bentley

David Merrill
05-01-13, 09:29 PM
Interesting conversation today.



1). Physically stamping bills reduces cash-on-hand for reserve purposes and effectively takes the actual bills out of circulation.


That does not happen. But it does educate people about the remedy. If they look up the code they are a lot closer to getting there anyway.

I wonderful book gave me a lot of insight Mike. New York - Its Upper Ten and Lower Million (http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4948/lippardnewyorkbook.pdf) by George LIPPARD, around 1840. This book depicted the banking operations where a banker would shut down at the first sign of a run, only to open a new bank with all the funds in a month. I was specially impacted by this clarity of "bond" - by the court of $10M (http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8692/162lh.jpg).

I think we may find some insight just today about money with Apple going into debt intentionally with their shares of course being currency just like Federal Reserve notes are shares in the Fed.

Franco
05-04-13, 07:50 PM
I want to share this information with you

26 USC § 6109 - Identifying numbers
(3) Furnishing number of another person
(a) Supplying of identifying numbers
Any person (BANK) required under the authority of this title to make a return, statement, or other document with respect to another person(CUSTOMRE) shall request from such other person, and shall include in any such return, statement, or other document, such identifying number as may be prescribed for securing proper identification of such other person.
The portion of 26 USC 6109 to which you referred is 26 USC 6109(a)(3) which is titled, “Furnishing number of another person.” It states that, “Any person...” (i.e., the Bank–which is an artificial person under the law) “Any person required under theauthority of this title to make a return,statement, or other document with respect to another person . . .” (i.e., yourcustomer) “. . . shall request . . .” (notice
the word “request” here – notice that Congress did not use a word like “demand” or “require”–but they used the word “request”) “. . . shall request from such other person, and shall include in any such return, statement, or other document, such identifying number as may be prescribed for securing proper identification of such other person.” The word “request” was used here so this section would be found compatible to a myriad of other laws, including, but not limited to the Privacy Act. If a word like “demand” or “require” were used in this section, Congress ran the risk of having this section struck down by a court of law. For a company to comply with 26 USC 6109(a)(3), said company must
merely “request” an identifying number from a customer or an employee;
but only if said company is required by law to make a return,statement, or other document. This “return requirement”would include virtually all corporations,
most partnerships, and many sole proprietorships.Pursuant to this section, a company s required to “request” a number. The company is NOT required to “receive” a number. Nor, is the customer required to give a number.
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Franco