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shikamaru
06-03-12, 03:02 PM
The rightful relation of the state to private business associations (http://books.google.com/books?id=HpQZAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=private+business&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AXvLT6msPIaa2AXHg7TaCw&ved=0CH4Q6AEwCg#v=onepage&q=private%20business&f=false)

http://books.google.com/books?id=HpQZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA4&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U0nlNzlfBqPDnfRo0_sgYOpyyP89g&ci=177%2C344%2C724%2C174&edge=0

David Merrill
06-03-12, 11:43 PM
Cool thread!

I suppose this (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImQ2c2cnJOZXBSS0E/edit)is probably too time consuming but I came across it today so it is on my mind.

shikamaru
06-05-12, 10:41 PM
Cool thread!

I suppose this (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImQ2c2cnJOZXBSS0E/edit)is probably too time consuming but I came across it today so it is on my mind.

How I see this that we seek to build our fortress of security from the private war of capitalism.

Richard Earl
06-06-12, 02:35 AM
Cool thread!

I suppose this (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImQ2c2cnJOZXBSS0E/edit)is probably too time consuming but I came across it today so it is on my mind.

The 13th amendment listed in that document is very interesting. :)

David Merrill
06-06-12, 09:53 AM
I came across one technique yesterday:

http://www.cryptohippie.com/products_roadwarrior.php

The method as expressed in admiralty to the admiralty is Libel of Review (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9462/libelofreview52012.pdf). Find the same Thirteenth Amendment applied to a territorial survey decades later!

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_6744_969.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_6744_970.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_6744_971.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_6744_972.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_6744_973.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_6744_974.jpg

Get this! - The Infection is how many people were ordering up this document package that my clerk had it taped up in the Records cubicle.

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5945/13thamendmenthanginginc.jpg

allodial
06-10-12, 03:56 AM
Maybe capitalism, socialism and capitalism are pretty much the same or part of the same coin especially in view of observation that socialists posing as capitalists is what USA-ians have experienced since WWII. Perhaps they are "capitalists" when they want "deregulation" (i.e. lack of barriers to entry) and then conveniently they are "socialists" when they want to keep competition away. When they get into extreme control-freak mode about competition then they are "communists". The idea that "The State" or "The City" (Metro) should have final say over resources is socialist..and even capitalists idea that the State could give them the unlimited right over resources is.. rather.. socialist. Consider communism as being a fancy group psychology technique to get millions of folk to oppress each other so that the 'secret oligarchy' can have less competition at having fancy things that the plebes "aren't supposed to have".

The right of men to choose how they want to apply their talents IMHO isn't a "capitalist" concept. Capitalism, socialism and communism seem to all deal with centralized resource control.

So perhaps what one has is a 'secret oligarchy' waging war against what they call "the masses" through capitalism, communism and socialism?

David Merrill
06-10-12, 01:51 PM
I think that the natural process of The Economy being that government debt is considered 'money'.

shikamaru
06-12-12, 08:53 PM
Maybe capitalism, socialism and capitalism are pretty much the same or part of the same coin especially in view of observation that socialists posing as capitalists is what USA-ians have experienced since WWII. Perhaps they are "capitalists" when they want "deregulation" (i.e. lack of barriers to entry) and then conveniently they are "socialists" when they want to keep competition away. When they get into extreme control-freak mode about competition then they are "communists". The idea that "The State" or "The City" (Metro) should have final say over resources is socialist..and even capitalists idea that the State could give them the unlimited right over resources is.. rather.. socialist. Consider communism as being a fancy group psychology technique to get millions of folk to oppress each other so that the 'secret oligarchy' can have less competition at having fancy things that the plebes "aren't supposed to have".

The right of men to choose how they want to apply their talents IMHO isn't a "capitalist" concept. Capitalism, socialism and communism seem to all deal with centralized resource control.

So perhaps what one has is a 'secret oligarchy' waging war against what they call "the masses" through capitalism, communism and socialism?

A difference in socialism and capitalism is the corporation one desires to be ruled by.

Capitalism is for private corporations.
Socialism is for public (government) corporations.

allodial
06-13-12, 12:02 AM
A difference in socialism and capitalism is the corporation one desires to be ruled by.

Capitalism is for private corporations.
Socialism is for public (government) corporations .

So it depends on how thin or how thick your oligarchy/aristocracy is? Or how deep or shallow the rabbit hole is?

shikamaru
06-14-12, 11:19 AM
So it depends on how thin or how thick your oligarchy/aristocracy is? Or how deep or shallow the rabbit hole is?

Take your pick :)