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Stephen
01-17-13, 04:30 PM
If I were to use a withdrawal slip instead of a check to withdraw money from my account containing lawful money is it advisable to use the same stamps I endorse checks with to maintain the lawfulness of the cash? Or does the fact of it being lawful money due to it being deposited with the endorsement stamps make this unnecessary?

My credit union does require my signature on the withdrawal slip.

David Merrill
01-17-13, 05:27 PM
If I were to use a withdrawal slip instead of a check to withdraw money from my account containing lawful money is it advisable to use the same stamps I endorse checks with to maintain the lawfulness of the cash? Or does the fact of it being lawful money due to it being deposited with the endorsement stamps make this unnecessary?

My credit union does require my signature on the withdrawal slip.

A withdrawal slip is a check for when you forgot to bring your checkbook, as I understand it. You are just asking the teller to fill in the account information.

Interesting, while the suitor was cashing this withdrawal slip (http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4149/nonendorsementredemptio.jpg) for an evidence repository in Denver, I was outside getting this video (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImMjMxOWFmYjMtYTBlNC00Zjc2LWFkNWItYzI5M mRiNmJjNTYy/edit).

I suppose that you have to know that mountain in the background is Mount Herman (Same pronounciation as Mount Hermon) to fully appreciate the pun (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImOWMwMjUxZTYtZmViNy00NmI1LWEyNzItMDgxY zFkZWMxNmVi/edit). It just gets better and better when you learn the keys (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2883/monumentsmounthermon.jpg) to unlock the mysteries.

Keith Alan
01-17-13, 07:10 PM
A withdrawal slip is a check for when you forgot to bring your checkbook, as I understand it. You are just asking the teller to fill in the account information.

Interesting, while the suitor was cashing this withdrawal slip (http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4149/nonendorsementredemptio.jpg) for an evidence repository in Denver, I was outside getting this video (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImMjMxOWFmYjMtYTBlNC00Zjc2LWFkNWItYzI5M mRiNmJjNTYy/edit).


I suppose that you have to know that mountain in the background is Mount Herman (Same pronounciation as Mount Hermon) to fully appreciate the pun (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImOWMwMjUxZTYtZmViNy00NmI1LWEyNzItMDgxY zFkZWMxNmVi/edit). It just gets better and better when you learn the keys (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2883/monumentsmounthermon.jpg) to unlock the mysteries.

That map is quite a trip.

allodial
01-17-13, 07:10 PM
Interestingly I was pondering the issue of withrdrawal slips as being used as a kind of "currency selection" (*ahem* SDRs *ahem*) mechanism. Perhaps one can write the amount in words such as "one hundred U.S. dollars lawful money" on the slip?

David Merrill
01-17-13, 09:51 PM
Interestingly I was pondering the issue of withrdrawal slips as being used as a kind of "currency selection" (*ahem* SDRs *ahem*) mechanism. Perhaps one can write the amount in words such as "one hundred U.S. dollars lawful money" on the slip?

The example I gave shows the suitor struck through the Pay to the Order of (http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4149/nonendorsementredemptio.jpg)...

I imagine that the teller would have no trouble with minor adjustments in verbiage.

BAMAJiPS
01-17-13, 10:44 PM
Can we again expound on "Pay to" vs "Pay to the order of"? I'm sure I read it in delirium sometime somewhere on this board but I cant remember :)

David Merrill
01-18-13, 12:32 AM
Can we again expound on "Pay to" vs "Pay to the order of"? I'm sure I read it in delirium sometime somewhere on this board but I cant remember :)

My explanation is rather simple. I found it very interesting to hear from a former bank teller. The Informer's treatise is good too.

I recall the idea that no case could be truly closed only discharged or "dismissed". Sometimes I wonder if my case was the first to be truly closed on this Timeline (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3034/danielcalendar.jpg):



http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/DanielCalendar.jpg

Treefarmer
01-18-13, 02:29 AM
My explanation is rather simple. I found it very interesting to hear from a former bank teller. The Informer's treatise is good too.

I recall the idea that no case could be truly closed only discharged or "dismissed". Sometimes I wonder if my case was the first to be truly closed on this Timeline (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3034/danielcalendar.jpg):



http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/DanielCalendar.jpg

What is your explanation?

David Merrill
01-18-13, 10:18 AM
My explanation? It is a long time coming, that question! Amazing really. I have been posting that Timeline called Daniel's Calendar and never once has anybody asked me to explain it until now.

It deserves a thread but the facet that brought it up should be explained here.

My Libel of Review was filed the eve of The 31-Day Government Shutdown that was over New Year's of 1995. But they saw that coming because I had filed In Forma Pauperis about three weeks earlier. I was not filing In Forma Pauperis for being poor other than I did not want to use the currency provided by the Respondent - the International Monetary Fund Internal Revenue Service. I did not want that to bias the case.

In my journey I have had three or four men approach me who felt they were enlightened so to speak. As they befriended me, thinking back on it, they maneuvered into a position of mentor and when I would do things without their instruction they would become annoyed with me. I believe this is because I was viewing our relationship as a couple equals being friendly rather than what they wanted; a mentor and initiate relationship. James Harlan was an author (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2149/libelinreview.pdf) of Are You Lost at C? (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_AreYouLostAtSea.pdf)

Jim was also a 32nd Degree Mason.

Jim's Libel of Review, exactly per the Book was already in process. I do not think that the book was even released by December - but maybe that is where I got it. Maybe Jim gave me a copy before it was released. He had filed his LoR, which was likely the only LoR out there at the time a few months prior to me filing mine. When I filed my LoR with the In Forma Pauperis a peculiar thing happened.

On the way back from Denver Jim paged me - yep, 1995 - pagers. I stopped at a truck stop and called him. He told me that he wanted to pay the $120 filing fee. I thanked him and explained there was a process about using the currency provided by the defendant. He wanted me to turn around and go back to Denver and the clerk would file the case for me on his credit card. All I had to do was go back to the USDC and sign consent for him to pay. What immediately struck me odd was, How did Jim get involved in my case? Apparently the clerk of court spotted the similarities and had given Jim a call. They thought I would go for the arrangement.

I was appreciative of Jim's offer but wanted to get the federal judge to testify so I told him he could pay me cash after the judge had decided about the In Forma Pauperis application. Jim told me that the offer was only good until 5:00 PM when the clerk of court closed, that day. Interesting! He started to become annoyed with me for declining his gracious offer.

A little over two weeks later as I recall it I filed the LoR paying the $120 cash and I remember how surreal it felt the next day driving through the mountains listening to the radio. The government had been shut down. All the non-essential personnel in the US government were ordered not to come in to work! At the time it sounded permanent according to the radio announcer but it turned out to be a 31-day shutdown as in corporate bankruptcy.

Jim never got his LoR remanded to state court according to the 'saving to suitors' clause. But his Notice of Federal Tax Lien was unfiled from the county clerk and recorder. It was never 'released'. It just went away. That is when I was first considering the clause in the template about abandoning claim I suppose. The first LoR's I wrote for others were custom, like Ronald Dean's (http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2245/ronalddeansprosecution.pdf).


http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Warrant1.gif

After about a year and a half of me being unable to prompt an Article III hat on DANIEL (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8837/danielfinancial2007.pdf)I resorted to a writ of mandamus from a grand jury convening in Albuquerque. The jury ordered DANIEL to remand the case to state court or enter Default Judgment in my favor. DANIEL (the clerk) interpreted my demand for default as a motion and denied it, and CLOSED THE CASE.

That was really my point about the Timeline. I was familiar with the Informer's teaching about redeeming lawful money. A few years later I noticed that my LoR had been Closed, not Dismissed (discharged). Apparently the account had been settled. Ergo according to that teaching the entry on the Timeline about the national debt being resolved. Or in other words the US government was officially in receivership but in my mind this was more that the 501(c)(3) "church" was dragged into the fray (bankruptcy) and this filled the bill (of indictment) for cessation of the daily oblation on the upper timeline about Daniel's Cycle.

There is a lot more about this Timeline, now that you ask. I should start a thread soon on the Religious History category.

Treefarmer
01-19-13, 12:18 AM
My explanation? It is a long time coming, that question! Amazing really. I have been posting that Timeline called Daniel's Calendar and never once has anybody asked me to explain it until now.

It deserves a thread but the facet that brought it up should be explained here.

My Libel of Review was filed the eve of The 31-Day Government Shutdown that was over New Year's of 1995. But they saw that coming because I had filed In Forma Pauperis about three weeks earlier. I was not filing In Forma Pauperis for being poor other than I did not want to use the currency provided by the Respondent - the International Monetary Fund Internal Revenue Service. I did not want that to bias the case.

In my journey I have had three or four men approach me who felt they were enlightened so to speak. As they befriended me, thinking back on it, they maneuvered into a position of mentor and when I would do things without their instruction they would become annoyed with me. I believe this is because I was viewing our relationship as a couple equals being friendly rather than what they wanted; a mentor and initiate relationship. James Harlan was an author (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2149/libelinreview.pdf) of Are You Lost at C? (http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_AreYouLostAtSea.pdf)

Jim was also a 32nd Degree Mason.

Jim's Libel of Review, exactly per the Book was already in process. I do not think that the book was even released by December - but maybe that is where I got it. Maybe Jim gave me a copy before it was released. He had filed his LoR, which was likely the only LoR out there at the time a few months prior to me filing mine. When I filed my LoR with the In Forma Pauperis a peculiar thing happened.

On the way back from Denver Jim paged me - yep, 1995 - pagers. I stopped at a truck stop and called him. He told me that he wanted to pay the $120 filing fee. I thanked him and explained there was a process about using the currency provided by the defendant. He wanted me to turn around and go back to Denver and the clerk would file the case for me on his credit card. All I had to do was go back to the USDC and sign consent for him to pay. What immediately struck me odd was, How did Jim get involved in my case? Apparently the clerk of court spotted the similarities and had given Jim a call. They thought I would go for the arrangement.

I was appreciative of Jim's offer but wanted to get the federal judge to testify so I told him he could pay me cash after the judge had decided about the In Forma Pauperis application. Jim told me that the offer was only good until 5:00 PM when the clerk of court closed, that day. Interesting! He started to become annoyed with me for declining his gracious offer.

A little over two weeks later as I recall it I filed the LoR paying the $120 cash and I remember how surreal it felt the next day driving through the mountains listening to the radio. The government had been shut down. All the non-essential personnel in the US government were ordered not to come in to work! At the time it sounded permanent according to the radio announcer but it turned out to be a 31-day shutdown as in corporate bankruptcy.

Jim never got his LoR remanded to state court according to the 'saving to suitors' clause. But his Notice of Federal Tax Lien was unfiled from the county clerk and recorder. It was never 'released'. It just went away. That is when I was first considering the clause in the template about abandoning claim I suppose. The first LoR's I wrote for others were custom, like Ronald Dean's (http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2245/ronalddeansprosecution.pdf).


http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Warrant1.gif

After about a year and a half of me being unable to prompt an Article III hat on DANIEL (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8837/danielfinancial2007.pdf)I resorted to a writ of mandamus from a grand jury convening in Albuquerque. The jury ordered DANIEL to remand the case to state court or enter Default Judgment in my favor. DANIEL (the clerk) interpreted my demand for default as a motion and denied it, and CLOSED THE CASE.

That was really my point about the Timeline. I was familiar with the Informer's teaching about redeeming lawful money. A few years later I noticed that my LoR had been Closed, not Dismissed (discharged). Apparently the account had been settled. Ergo according to that teaching the entry on the Timeline about the national debt being resolved. Or in other words the US government was officially in receivership but in my mind this was more that the 501(c)(3) "church" was dragged into the fray (bankruptcy) and this filled the bill (of indictment) for cessation of the daily oblation on the upper timeline about Daniel's Cycle.

There is a lot more about this Timeline, now that you ask. I should start a thread soon on the Religious History category.

Excellent, thank you David.
I'm looking forward to your further explanations and time line exploration.

I love studying prophetic time lines as well as timing in general.
Very early on in my life, with a bump on my head and two bloody knees, I realized that timing is nearly everything.
I've been having to repeat that lesson off and on ever since then.

In order not to delay, I just started a new thread (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?801-Timeline-explanations&p=9516#post9516)for this purpose in the R.H. category.
Perhaps you would like to utilize it?

Shabbat Shalom

walter
01-19-13, 06:34 AM
I recall the idea that no case could be truly closed only discharged or "dismissed". Sometimes I wonder if my case was the first to be truly closed

cases can disappear from the record,
i have seen it with my own eyes,
name and case number vanishing from there public computers,

your RECORD follows you forever if you pay a court order or fine with FRN's,
FRN's grant you bail only,
so the record becomes your shadow forever,

settling the account on the private side removes the court case, no record, no bail,
mirror imagine, double entry book keeping,

David Merrill
01-19-13, 10:30 AM
I do not doubt that. We are talking about Timeline here (at least breifly). There is a new thread. Point being that it would be prior to 1997 that we are speaking. Closing cases is now common. - As with rampant fabrication of funds like Bailouts and Quatitative Easing. The value of the dollar is now in plunge protection rather than just passing the threshold where the cost to produce a $1 is more than it is worth in trade value...

That much at least still relates to Withdrawal Slips. - A little.