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sam charles
02-03-13, 09:21 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-03/happy-100th-birthday-us-federal-income-tax

Chex
02-03-13, 09:29 PM
The result: the first ever iteration of what would henceforth become the most hated form in US history.

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Wow Sammy super work love all the comments waking up the sheeple people.

On February 3rd, 1913, one of the two most historic events in US history took place: the ratification of the 16th amendment, which established Congress' right to impose a Federal income tax on Americans, and overturned Article I, Section 9 of the US Constitution which explicitly prohibited a general income tax.

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And it's Superbowl Sunday

stoneFree
02-06-13, 05:11 AM
Ah yes. Technically, 1862 saw the first federal Income Tax form: http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/social/publicfinance/revenue/1862.htm

Keith Alan
02-06-13, 02:06 PM
In searching for the history of US notes, I keep finding remarks about Treasury issuing $10 demand notes beginning in 1861, bearing Lincoln's portrait. I would really like to see an example of one of those.

At any rate, the Legal Tender Act of 1862 and National Bank Acts coincide with the 1862 income tax.

I don't think it's coincidental that US notes and income tax begin at the same time.

David Merrill
02-06-13, 03:37 PM
In searching for the history of US notes, I keep finding remarks about Treasury issuing $10 demand notes beginning in 1861, bearing Lincoln's portrait. I would really like to see an example of one of those.

At any rate, the Legal Tender Act of 1862 and National Bank Acts coincide with the 1862 income tax.

I don't think it's coincidental that US notes and income tax begin at the same time.


Not at all! One has to understand the new trust funding the War of Rebellion was a not-quite Territory called Colorado.


http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/533/gilpinswarmeasureszoom.jpg

That was executed from the SW Corner (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1929/territorialcapitalbuild.jpg) of this Golden Rectangle (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4255/monumentsfibonaccispira.jpg) of Masonic Monuments. I am growing in confidence to say that this Treasury Vault (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImbTlZVjBCM081dFE/edit) is or represents the $300M gold backing the US notes in "circulation" (in the Fed banks so they don't wear out) today. Think about it. It is difficult to believe this Golden Rectangle is an accident and represents nothing.


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/710/monumenttended.jpg

The US graduated to a total fiat by accepting GILPIN's script was acceptable (http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5409/gilpinswarmeasuresp44.jpg) just because of Emergency. Please notice the Date when LINCOLN reconvened Congress for the Extraordinary Occasion (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6479/conventionextraordinary.jpg). (Does April 15 ring a bell?) I am convinced that Treasury Vault is a significant part of the monuments.

Even if I am wrong about this decryption you have to admit my life is more interesting because of this interpretation - maybe even good reading here!

David Merrill
02-06-13, 03:45 PM
That Treasury Vault is a permanent fixture but in the video, the adjacent room has a display called Money of the Civil War.

Interestingly, that is the security guard (http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/84/federalpaper.jpg) allowing me to photograph.

allodial
02-06-13, 05:22 PM
Prior to January 1, 2011, there were two methods of depositing employment taxes: by Electronic Federal Payment System (EFTPS) and by using Federal Tax Deposit (FTD) coupons, Form 8109.
Effective January 1, 2011, Form 8109 and 8109-B, Federal Tax Deposit Coupon, can no longer be used. All required Federal Tax Deposits must be made electronically.
You are required to make electronic deposits using EFTPS for all your tax liabilities in 2011. For more details, see Chapter 11, Depositing Taxes, in Publication 15.
To enroll in EFTPS, call 1-800-945-8400 or 1-800-555-4477. You can obtain additional information on EFTPS requirements by accessing Publication 966, Electronic Federal Tax Payment System. You can register on-line and receive more information by using the EFTPS website at: http://www.eftps.gov
You can go on-line and register, but it will take several days to receive the PIN to make the deposit. If you need to make the tax deposit immediately to avoid penalties, please mail your tax deposit to:
Financial Agent
Federal Tax Deposit Processing
P. O. Box 970030
St. Louis, MO 63197
Make your check Payable to "Financial Agent." Put your EIN in the memo section of the check and mail it with the coupon. (Source IRS)

Is it any coincidence at all that both the primary link between the Federal Reserve System and the U.S. Department of the Treasury and the primary (corporate) federal tax depository office is in Franc---I mean St. Louis, Missouri?

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(Fleur de lis.)
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(Hint: Mentally rotate 90 degrees clockwise to a 'civil banner' configuration.)
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(Flag of France)

The St. Louis Fed supports the U.S. Treasury with a number of functions. Led by senior vice president Kathleen O. Paese, the Treasury Services division includes the Treasury Relations and Support Office (TRSO), which manages the Federal Reserve System’s overall relationships with the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Bureau of the Public Debt, Financial Management Service and Office of Fiscal Assistant Secretary. The St. Louis Fed’s Treasury Relations and Systems Support (TRASS) office provides tax collection, cash management and reporting services to the U.S. Treasury, and serves as the offering administrator for the Fed’s Term Deposit Facility. ( Source: Wiki)

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Chex
02-06-13, 05:28 PM
In that 1040 return on #2 I don’t see line for the SS# and see the way it wants the taxpayer (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-22.pdf)to put in a address?


……..anyway……

You think the fiat currency congress printed could have been well spent towards the fiat currency deficit?

For fiscal year 2009, the U.S. Congress appropriated spending of approximately $12.624 billion of "discretionary budget authority" to operate the Department of the Treasury, of which $11.522 billion was allocated to the IRS.

The first income tax was assessed in 1862 to raise funds for the American Civil War, with a rate of 3%.

Today the IRS collects over $2.4 trillion each tax year from around 234 million tax returns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS

Where does the trillions go?

By the way check your IMF for these codes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentially_dangerous_taxpayer

NY Time newspaper clip. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F70D17FF3F5E13738DDDAF0994DE405B848DF1D3

Sometimes it takes a bit more of explanation and follow the yellow brick road to see things through.


LearnTheLaw said
The term "United States" may be used in any one of several senses. [1] It may be merely the name of a sovereign* occupying the position analogous to that of other sovereigns in the family of nations. [2] It may designate the territory over which the sovereignty of the United States** extends, or [3] it may be the collective name of the states*** which are united by and under the Constitution.
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?145-Exactly-what-does-the-IRS-agent-think/page8
This revenue ruling emphasizes to taxpayers, promoters and return preparers that all U.S. citizens and residents are subject to federal income tax.

Government of the United States. The federal government of the United States is the central United States governmental body, established by the United States Constitution. The federal government has three branches: the legislative, executive, and judicial. Through a system of separation of powers and the system of "checks and balances," each of these branches has some authority to act on its own, some authority to regulate the other two branches, and has some of its own authority, in turn, regulated by the other branches. The policies of the federal government have a broad impact on both the domestic and foreign affairs of the United States. In addition, the powers of the federal government as a whole are limited by the Constitution, which, per the Tenth Amendment, reserves all power not directed to the National government, to the individual states, respectively, or "to the people". The seat of the federal government is in the federal district of Washington, D.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Government_of_the_United_States

The seat of the U.S. federal government in Washington is a federal district known as the "District of Columbia", which is not part of any state. In main addition, the U.S. government has several other kinds of "federal districts" which are not specifically related to a capital city: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_district

In United States law, a "federal enclave" is a parcel of federal property within a state that is under the "Special Maritime and Territorial Jurisdiction of the United States."[1] As of 1960, the latest comprehensive inquiry,[2] only seven percent of federal property had enclave status, of which four percent (almost all in Alaska and Hawaii) was under "concurrent" state jurisdiction.

International law rule

Congress provided no civil laws to govern these enclaves. So in 1885, the Supreme Court held that the "international law rule," applied. That rule provides that when a territory is transferred from one government to another (such as when a federal enclave is ceded), laws for the protection of private rights continue in force until abrogated or changed by the new government.[13][14]

Under the doctrine of extraterritoriality, a federal enclave was treated as a "state within a state" until 1953, and therefore enclave residents were not residents of the state.[15] They could not vote in state elections,[16] attend public schools,[17] obtain a divorce in state courts,[18] or call upon state law enforcement officers to protect them from criminals.[19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_enclave

These three named States were selected as containing Federal real properties representative of such properties in all the States. Information was procured concerning the practices and problems related to legislative jurisdiction of the 23 Federal agencies controlling real property, and of the advantages and disadvantages of the several legislative jurisdiction statuses for the various purposes for which federally owned land is used. http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/fedjur/fedjur2.htm


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David Merrill
02-06-13, 08:44 PM
In that 1040 return on #2 I don’t see line for the SS# and see the way it wants the taxpayer (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-22.pdf)to put in a address?


……..anyway……

You think the fiat currency congress printed could have been well spent towards the fiat currency deficit?

For fiscal year 2009, the U.S. Congress appropriated spending of approximately $12.624 billion of "discretionary budget authority" to operate the Department of the Treasury, of which $11.522 billion was allocated to the IRS.

The first income tax was assessed in 1862 to raise funds for the American Civil War, with a rate of 3%.

Today the IRS collects over $2.4 trillion each tax year from around 234 million tax returns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS

Where does the trillions go?

By the way check your IMF for these codes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentially_dangerous_taxpayer

NY Time newspaper clip. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F70D17FF3F5E13738DDDAF0994DE405B848DF1D3

Sometimes it takes a bit more of explanation and follow the yellow brick road to see things through.



Government of the United States. The federal government of the United States is the central United States governmental body, established by the United States Constitution. The federal government has three branches: the legislative, executive, and judicial. Through a system of separation of powers and the system of "checks and balances," each of these branches has some authority to act on its own, some authority to regulate the other two branches, and has some of its own authority, in turn, regulated by the other branches. The policies of the federal government have a broad impact on both the domestic and foreign affairs of the United States. In addition, the powers of the federal government as a whole are limited by the Constitution, which, per the Tenth Amendment, reserves all power not directed to the National government, to the individual states, respectively, or "to the people". The seat of the federal government is in the federal district of Washington, D.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Government_of_the_United_States

The seat of the U.S. federal government in Washington is a federal district known as the "District of Columbia", which is not part of any state. In main addition, the U.S. government has several other kinds of "federal districts" which are not specifically related to a capital city: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_district

In United States law, a "federal enclave" is a parcel of federal property within a state that is under the "Special Maritime and Territorial Jurisdiction of the United States."[1] As of 1960, the latest comprehensive inquiry,[2] only seven percent of federal property had enclave status, of which four percent (almost all in Alaska and Hawaii) was under "concurrent" state jurisdiction.

International law rule

Congress provided no civil laws to govern these enclaves. So in 1885, the Supreme Court held that the "international law rule," applied. That rule provides that when a territory is transferred from one government to another (such as when a federal enclave is ceded), laws for the protection of private rights continue in force until abrogated or changed by the new government.[13][14]

Under the doctrine of extraterritoriality, a federal enclave was treated as a "state within a state" until 1953, and therefore enclave residents were not residents of the state.[15] They could not vote in state elections,[16] attend public schools,[17] obtain a divorce in state courts,[18] or call upon state law enforcement officers to protect them from criminals.[19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_enclave

These three named States were selected as containing Federal real properties representative of such properties in all the States. Information was procured concerning the practices and problems related to legislative jurisdiction of the 23 Federal agencies controlling real property, and of the advantages and disadvantages of the several legislative jurisdiction statuses for the various purposes for which federally owned land is used. http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/fedjur/fedjur2.htm


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That looks like a nautical cover (hat).


Nice post - I enjoyed that perspective.

shikamaru
02-06-13, 09:42 PM
Ah yes. Technically, 1862 saw the first federal Income Tax form: http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/social/publicfinance/revenue/1862.htm

The first income tax statutes were passed in 1861.

Revenue Act of 1861 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1861)

stoneFree
02-07-13, 04:45 PM
Yes. But note the income tax provision (Sections 49, 50 and 51) of the 1861 Act was repealed by the Revenue Act of 1862. I'm not certain it ever collected any income tax.

The law included a direct tax as originally proposed by Treasury Secretary Chase, as well as 3 percent levy on all incomes exceeding $800. 49 With such a high exemption, only the richest were expected to pay; historians have estimated that this first income tax applied to only 3 percent of the population. 50 Congress levied the tax on money earned during calendar year 1861, with payment due within six months. They left collection methods, however, largely unspecified. States were encouraged to assume the direct tax and collect the money as they saw fit. Collection for other federal taxes was left up in the air. With Congress slated to return from recess later in the year, the law was widely considered provisional. 51

[42] Clearly, the income tax posed the biggest collection problems. For its part, the Treasury Department was less than enthusiastic about the new tax.
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/ArtWeb/FF949517831B181685256E22007840E8?OpenDocument

shikamaru
02-07-13, 09:34 PM
Yes. But note the income tax provision (Sections 49, 50 and 51) of the 1861 Act was repealed by the Revenue Act of 1862. I'm not certain it ever collected any income tax.

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/ArtWeb/FF949517831B181685256E22007840E8?OpenDocument

It didn't. The Revenue Act of 1862 superseded the previous act before collection could start.

Notice it went from a flat tax to a progressive tax.

Michael Joseph
02-08-13, 01:13 AM
Some RECENT x- Talk

Federal and state courts since then have repeatedly held thatFederal Reserve notes are also "lawful money." Milam v. U.S., 524 F.2d 629 (9th Cir. 1974),

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_15197.htm


How can this be?


Response by MJ:

This is OBFUSCATION. Milam did not hold that opinion. I have Milam and they do not hold that FRN's are Lawful Money but that they may be REDEEMED in Lawful Money. As far as I can tell, FRN's are Lawful to Use as a Legal Tender, but FRN's are NOT Lawful Money as defined by Congress.

Exactly what did MILAM bring into the common law? See Attachment




Furthermore - the FRN is a DUAL CAPACITY note: We find that here: LEGAL TENDER STATUS (http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender.aspx)

Shall we take it from the Horses Mouth and not from a private bank:

What are United States Notes and how are they different from Federal Reserve notes?
United States Notes (characterized by a red seal and serial number) were the first national currency, authorized by the Legal Tender Act of 1862 and began circulating during the Civil War. The Treasury Department issued these notes directly into circulation, and they are obligations of the United States Government. The issuance of United States Notes is subject to limitations established by Congress. It established a statutory limitation of $300 million on the amount of United States Notes authorized to be outstanding and in circulation. While this was a significant figure in Civil War days, it is now a very small fraction of the total currency in circulation in the United States.

Both United States Notes and Federal Reserve Notes are parts of our national currency and both are legal tender. They circulate as money in the same way. However, the issuing authority for them comes from different statutes. United States Notes were redeemable in gold until 1933, when the United States abandoned the gold standard. Since then, both currencies have served essentially the same purpose, and have had the same value. Because United States Notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve Notes, their issuance was discontinued, and none have been placed in to circulation since January 21, 1971.

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 authorized the production and circulation of Federal Reserve notes. Although the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) prints these notes, they move into circulation through the Federal Reserve System. They are obligations of both the Federal Reserve System and the United States Government. On Federal Reserve notes, the seals and serial numbers appear in green.

United States notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve notes. As a result, the Treasury Department stopped issuing United States notes, and none have been placed into circulation since January 21, 1971.


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Now it is clear to this reader that the FRN serves in a DUAL role but that the FRN is a legal tender but is NOT lawful money. So lets frame this properly shall we? While the FRN is therefore lawful to use as a legal tender, the FRN is not Lawful Money as defined by Congress but can be Redeemed. Therefore Cash effectively serves as Lawful Money but only according to what is between your ears. Now therefore will you become the Surety or will you allow the Trustees to perform?

A good explanation can be found here. (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImdFlmMC1zWkg5THM/edit?pli=1)


In USA v. THOMAS we find:

Admiralty Law > Forfeitures & Penalties > Criminal Forfeitures
Criminal Law & Procedure > Sentencing > Forfeitures > General Overview
Real Property Law > Financing > Federal Regulations > Farm Credit Act

[HN4] Historically, forfeiture proceeded from the legal fiction that property used in the commission of a crime itself
offends the law. The forfeited res, as a legal entity, is identical with the physical article when the property is, for
example, a sea vessel, an automobile, or a firearm. Currency, however, differs substantially from such objects.

Paper currency, in the form of the Federal Reserve Note, is defined as an obligation of the United States that may be redeemed in lawful money on demand. 12 U.S.C.S. § 411.

Those bills are not money per se but promissory notes supported by the monetary reserves of the United States.

When an individual engages in a criminal transaction with paper currency,
although the individual certainly uses the notes to accomplish the criminal end, the currency's monetary value funds the
transaction and is also an appropriate target of forfeiture. That result also follows from the fact that an individual who
uses legal documents representing ownership of land to raise funds for a criminal purpose renders the land itself subject
to forfeiture. It would be absurd, in that case, to suppose that forfeiture could attach only to the document and not to the
legal interests represented by that document.

The United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit thus holds that authorities do not abandon the res when they convert currency to a cashier's check.


[emphasis added by MJ - USN's are Lawful Money - why be the Surety]

Notice the language concerning land - interesting. Learn Trust Law. The Res....The Res.....The Res.....


Shalom,
MJ

Mark Allan
02-09-13, 03:30 AM
Michael Joseph,
maybe I get hung up on symantics too much, but on the excellent link you supply to the Federal Reserve site, where they do seem to obfuscate their products bona fides, there is a link at the page bottom that then discussed coins.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12626.htm

They work to inform that:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is the issuing authority for Federal Reserve notes, the primary form of currency in circulation in the United States.

For me the symantics comes from their use of primary, which would in my mind surely imply not the only form of currency...

Michael Joseph
02-09-13, 06:26 PM
The state is on the hook for the liability and the con is getting you to act as a surety for it, why else would the registrar get indemnity, he is the testater if he is the one registering the name and their agent a filer. State working as agent as well for the primary trust, but as beneficiary/trustee. Still leaves us third party beneficiary for what they created, adhesion and a presumption by the low level fruit who are not told the truth, they only know what they know, this is why when they are questioned about anything they tell you to straighten it out in court.

Insurance claims and pledge of credit; I would imagine this same organization [business plan] is setup in every country who takes part in the United Nations at least. Much like the certificate of live birth is evidence of who is holding title so is the back of the One Use dollar showing the silver seal showing evidence of title holder, if the states according to constitution cannot make anything but gold and silver as payment on debts, this is what they used to bond up the pledge to the federal insurance trust. Therefore they would throw in another illusion making us think that taxes were the premiums to pay for the insurance, but if the mortgage to debt document is correct that the money is really not needed because it is backed up by the mortgaged homes then this is not so, the only thing that could be left is any covenant that was made to the pope's claims on all the lands of the earth, taxes for rents of land to put them homes on and other commercial buildings. This is the spiritual battle that takes place, the earth was given to all of man, not one single man. It is funny that they would probably make the same argument that a cop claims on the side of the road instead of showing proof of claim, he will say look at my uniform, look at the vehicle i am driving, look at my ticket book, the pope would probably say the same, look at my septor, look at my robe, look at the house of gold i live in. However do not mis-understand I am not critical of the man or the office of the bishop of the church of rome - I believe that office is allowed to exist in the world by a much Higher Power not of this world. There must be choice!

So then shall we consider TYPE and ANTI-TYPE in Scripture:

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Isn't it interesting in a way you have Secular Humanism PUSHING against the peoples demand for a Religious System. Thing is the Two sister churches of Israel - Moab and Median have consulted with Balaam and they are now wearing mini-skirts. So you see in typology what appears to be righteous only appears to be righteous because it is what appears to be the only other choice against a Secular system that is being run into Chaos. This too is a great deception.

But remember the Things SEEN are made by things UN-SEEN. So because the men and women of this flesh age desired to SEE a man-king - they get what they desire - but there still lies a third choice!

Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasars give unto God what is Gods. So we see a Dragon in the Midst of the Seas. But we also see in Spiritual Typology - the Israel of Elohim. The latter Assembly knows no national boundaries - for we are all sons and daughters of El Elyon [THE MOST HIGH GOD]

Some shall arise as Phineas and place a Javelin in the False Church system. Election of Elohim.

Shalom,
MJ

David Merrill
02-10-13, 01:41 AM
Therefore they would throw in another illusion making us think that taxes were the premiums to pay for the insurance, but if the mortgage to debt document is correct that the money is really not needed because it is backed up by the mortgaged homes then this is not so, the only thing that could be left is any covenant that was made to the pope's claims on all the lands of the earth, taxes for rents of land to put them homes on and other commercial buildings.

That would be the Treaty of 1213. - Two years prior to the Magna Charta and both of them were in the witness of the Masons.

Treefarmer
02-10-13, 04:07 AM
This tidbit comes from the passingbucks (http://passingbucks.com/win/letter.pdf) dot com website:

"People are kidding themselves.
They don't have the buying power they used to have.
A lot of the people living today don't know what the buying power of success was before we decided to use excessive income taxes to punish success and estate and gift taxes to force every generation to start from scratch.

Writer unknown, Why The Income Tax Is Bad, Interview with T. Coleman Andrews, Former Commissioner of Internal Revenue, US News and World Report, May 25, 1956."

David Merrill
02-10-13, 10:58 AM
...income taxes to punish success and estate and gift taxes to force every generation to start from scratch.


That saddens me, all the people stuck in that endorsement paradigm.

I rely and trust in my perpetual inheritance (§VI (http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4227/freedomsandexemptions1.jpg)) as guaranteed (http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/544/charteroffreedomsandexe.pdf)by I Chronicles 6 (cities and their suburbs) through my servants and custodians of the record, the Levite priesthood (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9579/templestonesmogandavid.jpg).

When heritage and destiny are in accord, there is peace.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTZOIYYLNw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDlcM_DQBOc

Chex
02-22-15, 02:48 PM
MJ >
In USA v. THOMAS we find: (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?814-100-years-of-the-Federal-Reserve-and-IRS&p=9834&viewfull=1#post9834)

Admiralty Law > Forfeitures & Penalties > Criminal Forfeitures
Criminal Law & Procedure > Sentencing > Forfeitures > General Overview
Real Property Law > Financing > Federal Regulations > Farm Credit Act

[HN4] Historically, forfeiture proceeded from the legal fiction that property used in the commission of a crime itself
offends the law. The forfeited res, as a legal entity, is identical with the physical article when the property is, for
example, a sea vessel, an automobile, or a firearm. Currency, however, differs substantially from such objects.

Civil asset forfeitures are big business for police agencies in Michigan. (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/02/22/civil-asset-forfeiture-michigan-seizures-aclu-heritage-foundation-institute-justice/23737663/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories) February 22, 2015.

The seizure was allowed under Michigan's Civil Asset Forfeiture laws, which allow police to take property from citizens if they suspect a crime was committed, even when there is not enough evidence to charge them. Homeowners like Williams have to prove they did not purchase their property with proceeds from criminal activity and then sue to get the property back.

Michael Joseph
02-22-15, 08:11 PM
MJ >

Civil asset forfeitures are big business for police agencies in Michigan. (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/02/22/civil-asset-forfeiture-michigan-seizures-aclu-heritage-foundation-institute-justice/23737663/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories) February 22, 2015.

The seizure was allowed under Michigan's Civil Asset Forfeiture laws, which allow police to take property from citizens if they suspect a crime was committed, even when there is not enough evidence to charge them. Homeowners like Williams have to prove they did not purchase their property with proceeds from criminal activity and then sue to get the property back.

Keep reading USA v THOMAS and you will find a WONDERFUL Gem. I promise it is there. Just keep reading.

Shalom,
MJ

Michael Joseph
02-22-15, 08:35 PM
Michael Joseph,
maybe I get hung up on symantics too much, but on the excellent link you supply to the Federal Reserve site, where they do seem to obfuscate their products bona fides, there is a link at the page bottom that then discussed coins.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12626.htm

They work to inform that:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is the issuing authority for Federal Reserve notes, the primary form of currency in circulation in the United States.

For me the symantics comes from their use of primary, which would in my mind surely imply not the only form of currency...

Mark Allen,

I am not sure when you posted this response, and I apologize for this late reply, but consider that the FRN is a dual purpose note the encryption is that it serves the same purpose of the USN. The purpose is the same as a legal tender. Let me go Scriptural for a moment. Most folks read Scripture and have no idea it is talking about them. For instance in the Allegory of Jacob/Leah/Rachel.

Jacob is your mind - male
Leah is your emotions - female
Rachel is your spirit - female

Now then you can intercourse with Leah and bring forth the desires of your heart - which produce the SPOTTED Cattle that Jacob was so pleased to leave with.

OR, you can intercourse with Rachel with the Permission of the Great King and bring forth the Child of Promise or the son of God. Which is to say the Thoughts of God manifest in you - the PURE white Cattle.

Leah is on the Left
Rachel is on the Right

Both aspects are within you - therefore YOU CHOOSE - what will it be - Death or Life? You choose.

Did you notice the large ONE on the right. Fishing out of the right side - ONE in Trust with Christ - is symbolized by ONE in Trust with the US. IT is the same analogy - it plays out right in front of your eyes but nobody can see. Everybody is looking without and few are looking within. For Jesus said FEW FIND The Way.

You can take the Kingdom by Force as Ammon did with Tamar or you can ask the great King. You will fish all night long [ignorance] out of the Left side - and all that you will bring up is the Spots in your love feast. A third party wants to join in - and I have to tell you - I am not interested in a third party in my love feast. How about you?

Did you see this? You physical nature is male. If you are abiding in Sodom then your Mind intercourses with your Flesh and you have a male-male relationship and there is no womb there to receive the seed, conceive the seed and bring forth the child. This of course if the product of the CARNAL MIND which wants what it wants - the its all mine crowd.

I hope I have made myself reasonably clear. These things are fractals that play out as images of what is going on INSIDE of you and me too! Inside of all of us. Yet everyone is so steeped in their religion as to look outside of themselves. This simply is not The Way. The Mountain is in Consciousness and until you begin to intercourse with the Spirit, you cannot climb it. But Leah is not gonna be happy for she will feel cold and alone and will therefore tug at you and pull you back. Leah will always look back and turn to Salt but she is therefore Preserved from evil as you ascend into the High Mountain of Consciousness - to find the Cleft of the Rock - the Secret place in the Alter.

Look at Washington - The Alpha. Did you notice he is flanked by an Omega? Look above his head - do you see an Alter? These are SYMBOLS designed to open your eyes.

Look carefully at the Money - the back of that $1.00 note is a TOO SCALE model of the ark of the covenant - complete with the 24 elders - look carefully and you will even find the staves [carrying poles] that run through the 1's. And sitting in the Mercy seat is ONE hovering - see the 3d image. That is no N - look again - see two trumpets.

You thru the Spotted Cattle of your own thoughts can perceive good and evil and think to do good or evil - these are NOT the thoughts of God - which are the Pure White Cattle that Abel Shepherds. If you are as Cain, then you have your own vain conceptions of what pleases God and you call that your religion - so you build a golden calf and think that God is happy. This is Jacob in intercourse with Leah - Emotion.

Perhaps the reader is lost in allegorical thought and thinks what does this have to do with me getting what I want which is non-taxable money? Well dear reader you have just answered your own question. Me, Me, Me, Me me, me and my wants - which are the children birthed from Emotion called desires.

Fish out of the right side of the boat. You body has the capacity for a dual purpose. Consider carefully and hopefully you will begin to see.

For Jacob served 7 years for Leah AND served 7 years for Rachel. BALANCE.

Shalom,
MJ

Mark Allan
02-22-15, 11:52 PM
MJ, as usual I need a wee bit of time to digest your reply. Light weight, compact, yet carries much.
I do love the mental picture - "....fish outta the right side of the boat".

Michael Joseph
02-23-15, 01:13 AM
MJ, as usual I need a wee bit of time to digest your reply. Light weight, compact, yet carries much.
I do love the mental picture - "....fish outta the right side of the boat".

No worries. There once was a story about a man named Abram who had a Nephew Lot - these two were aspects of the same man. One day they had much cattle and as always disputes arise. So Lot went LEFT to Sodom and Abram went Right. The internal conflict within each of us. We don't sacrifice bulls and goats but the Sacrifice is the Spotted Cattle which is our vain imaginations of what we think we know. What we think we know is but a Golden Bull.

Psa 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and thy thoughts [added by MJ: pure white Cattle] which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.

Psa 40:6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.

Comment: My sacrifice is my thoughts that is to say my reasonings of what I THINK THIS ALL MEANS.

Keep it simple - fish out of the right - 153 ==> redacts to 9 which tells you this is all between your ears - consciousness. The alter on top of George's HEAD - is a telling sign. But who can see? But we cherish our thoughts, emotions and desires - for it is ours and we will grip and hold onto these until the bitter end.

Are you worshiping the Moon Goddess of Sin - she is the goddess of emotion - that is why Abram was told get up and out and away from UR of the Chaldees. Time to leave Religion, Emotion, Nationalism, Traditions and all that BINDS - get up and MOVE. This happens BETWEEN THE EARS.

There never was an Abram or a Sarai this is an allegory a myth - trying to tell you about you! And before the stones begin to fly from ones steeped in religion, I shall ask "haven't you read your own book?"

Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal_4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Hagar.

It is very simple folks and those who should have never been allowed to read the Bible get this wrong time and time again. For centuries, hell for thousands of years the woman has been made to be second class to the man. All due to fools trying to interpret that which they had no business reading in the first place.

The man is the MIND. The woman is EMOTION or SPIRIT. If the woman is Emotion she is NOT to rule the MIND. Therefore the woman is to submit to the man. Yet fools will tell you plainly to your face I am the head and my wife will do as I say. Who is the bigger fool, the fool or one who listens to a fool? You tell me. These poor women who have had to struggle in society that belittles them all in the name of their phoney baloney religion.

So Abram of Ur [Sin] was under his traditions and emotions. As shown in Sarai. For SARAI - means a head person or chief in rank. Abram was in SIN under his own Emotional nature - he was being ruled by the LEFT HAND. C'mon folks this is an allegory about SELF. How long will we mire in the hog slop of religion? What is right in front of us - held in our own hands - and yet we struggle. Our emotion births FEAR or GREED.

And we look right past that large word in huge print over the seal - O N E. Perhaps one day morning will break and the beautiful light that Eden saw play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKoRp05L95c)will arise in our hearts and we will stop the ancient struggle from aeons of time - that which happens between our two ears.

Shalom,
MJ

lorne
12-06-15, 04:01 AM
Not sure what to make of this but found it interesting.


Last-Ditch Ploys of the FED — Last month a group representing the Federal Reserve arrived in Indonesia and approached several Elders. This group claimed they would cash in or monetize the assets that the Elders were holding but only on one condition: the Elders could do no business whatsoever with Neil Keenan.

Of course the Elders are well aware of the crimes that the Federal Reserve foisted upon humanity since its very inception in 1913. They’re well aware of what President Sukarno and President Kennedy tried to do 52 years ago.

In fact, the Elders are well aware of a lot more than what wealth will do for this planet. They know their legacy is ultimately a spiritual one, the only eternal value.

That even such a proposal would be presented to the Elders reflects that the FED is in such deep denial as to be inconceivable.
http://neilkeenan.com/neil-keenan-update-neil-keenan-is-number-1/