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David Merrill
02-18-13, 03:44 PM
This 1914 case (http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/233/434/case.html#channel=f126324f403c668&origin=http%3A%2F%2Fsupreme.justia.com&channel_path=%2Fcases%2Ffederal%2Fus%2F233%2F434%2 Fcase.html%3Ffb_xd_fragment%23xd_sig%3Df26375dd17a ca86%26) seems full of gems. I was just led to it so I will let you decide for yourselves.


...But it is plain that bills and notes, whatever they may be called, come very near to identification with the contract that they embody. An indorsement of the paper carries the contract to the indorser. An indorsement in blank passes the debt from hand to hand so that whoever has the paper has the debt.

Chex
02-19-13, 06:26 PM
Commercial Law - Texas Tech University :: School of Law :: Student ...

Commercial Paper: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEsQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.studentweb.law.ttu.edu%2Flcs% 2FOutlines%2FLee%2520Comm%2520Law.doc&ei=kb8jUa7iDqWI2gWI4oCIBw&usg=AFQjCNEMy9xIltwZ4cdALkI4tII14zdDKg

Leo Undelli
12-08-13, 06:45 PM
An indorsement in blank passes the debt from hand to hand so that whoever has the paper has the debt. Wouldn't that include all mortgages as the banks never sign the contract, yet they hold the paper?

David Merrill
12-09-13, 09:25 AM
Through criminal syndicalism, mostly by way of credit cards this has allowed banks to fabricate pass-through aftermarkets.

I was watching the MERS through Deutsche Bank cases - some 17 Banks for a while and then it just became too boring. It looked to me like that was the Banks' strategy - just wear the judge down with boredom...

allodial
12-10-13, 03:55 AM
It looked to me like that was the Banks' strategy - just wear the judge down with boredom...

Among my attorney associates I would sometimes do 'surveys' just lightly asking about their knowledge of commercial law. Very few know about commercial law. Rare is one that is knowledgeable about both commercial law and real estate law. The wearing down with **** that's over the judge's head or with a flood of useless information that requires time and energy to determine its uselessness both might have the same effect.

David Merrill
12-10-13, 08:13 AM
That is what it looked like to me. I felt sorry for the judge if he is obligated to read all that.

allodial
12-11-13, 04:14 AM
And not to forget... if a given attorney is knowledgeable about both real estate and commercial law at any useful level of aptitude chances are: [1] he works for a bank or a finance company or has a bank or a finance company as a client; [2] he is an officer or a principal at a bank or finance company. Also, if the judge is lacks adequate knowledge he might consult with another judge that is or with an attorney that is. In any case, what are the chance he'll admit to being clueless on the record and self-recuse due to incompetence? Does not the popcorn trail lead back to the education system?

David Merrill
12-11-13, 03:23 PM
Yes!! Within hours of my perfecting the $20M lien (http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7398/20mlienoriginalreturn.jpg)all the officials (best I have checked) signed bogus oaths (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6332/formofoath.jpg). Chief Judge (http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9089/oathsamelson209.jpg); District Attorney (http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8382/danmaydaoathsos.jpg); County Judge (http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8332/hansenoath.jpg)...

This is like what you describe in a way.

The chief judge, from a vacant office sanctions the district attorney to be outside the law, with a $5K insurance policy (FDIC-like) to be responsible for the legal training of the police officers on the street. I have already seen the effects of this where police officers here break the law and don't even know it.

allodial
12-11-13, 10:48 PM
This is like what you describe in a way.

Pretty much.