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Ares
03-01-13, 05:10 PM
Getting ready to file my income tax return. I've been redeeming lawful money since January of 2012. Per David's instructions I never changed my withholding's at my employer so as to not involve my employer in my redemption process. I'm just not sure how to go about filling out the 1040 form indicating I've been redeeming lawful money. Does someone have a sanitized example that they could post, or e-mail? If I can get it figured out, I'll write up a How To to post here and add to the knowledge base so that it can help others.

doug555
03-01-13, 10:07 PM
Re: 1040 Help
WARNING: See https://1040relief.blogspot.com/

The link for this post:
post10099 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?844-1040-help&p=10099&viewfull=1#post10099)

Income Tax - A Legitimate Usage Fee (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html)
How Banks Work (http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/banking/bank1.htm)

Example 1040 Form - Do NOT use - GROSS PAY missing
Guest-Speaker-Pages-Info.html#anchor_317 (http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Guest-Speaker-Pages-Info.html#anchor_317)
Form_1040-2010-DLM_Example-08-25-2011.pdf (http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Form_1040-2010-DLM_Example-08-25-2011.pdf)

1040 LM Schedule:
post21758 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=21758&viewfull=1#post21758) - Schedule for partial year; also see post15706 below
post10417 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=10417&viewfull=1#post10417) - 1040 Other Income Supporting Details for Line 21
post12244 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=12244&viewfull=1#post12244)
post15695 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15695&viewfull=1#post15695) - Other Income Details attachment + partial year example
post15700 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15700&viewfull=1#post15700)
post15702 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15702&viewfull=1#post15702)
post15706 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=15706&viewfull=1#post15706) - Only FITW is requested for REFUND
post15771 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15771&viewfull=1#post15771)
post15773 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15773&viewfull=1#post15773)
post15786 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15786&viewfull=1#post15786)
post15790 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15790&viewfull=1#post15790)

DEMAND IS TRANSACTION-BASED
post10380 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10380&viewfull=1#post10380)
post10386 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10386&viewfull=1#post10386)
post10397 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10397&viewfull=1#post10397)
post10401 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10401&viewfull=1#post10401)
post10405 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10405&viewfull=1#post10405)
post10406 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10406&viewfull=1#post10406)
post10437 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10437&viewfull=1#post10437)
post10439 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10439&viewfull=1#post10439)
post10440 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10440&viewfull=1#post10440)
post10442 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10442&viewfull=1#post10442)
post11358 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=11358&viewfull=1#post11358) - no corresponding CFR regulation for 12 USC 411!
post11372 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=11372&viewfull=1#post11372) - Proof in actuality
post12164 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?795-Resistance-and-Refusal-by-Banks&p=12164&viewfull=1#post12164) - No CFR for 12 USC 411
post12168 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?795-Resistance-and-Refusal-by-Banks&p=12168&viewfull=1#post12168) - TRANSACTION-BASED REDEMPTION
post12180 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?795-Resistance-and-Refusal-by-Banks&p=12180&viewfull=1#post12180) - Mt 13:30
post15689 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15689&viewfull=1#post15689) - avoid upsetting banks and employers
post15713 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=15713&viewfull=1#post15713) - "Operation of Law" is also transaction-based!
post15884 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15884&viewfull=1#post15884) - WHY 1040 Line 22 will be a NEGATIVE AMOUNT!
post15908 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15908&viewfull=1#post15908) - GROSS PAY demand for lawful money
post15933 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1351-Treasury-Letter-from-1984&p=15933&viewfull=1#post15933) - GROSS PAY is the KEY TRANSACTION!
post15984 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1385-Patriots-win-again-2013-lawful-money-tax-filing&p=15984&viewfull=1#post15984) - "mistakes" notwithstanding

INDORSEMENT - WIN/WIN approach
post14959 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1242-Endorsement-Guaranteed&p=14959&viewfull=1#post14959)

Answering Challenges:
post16043 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1392-We-re-here-to-help-you&p=16043&viewfull=1#post16043)

IMMUNITY
post14247 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?145-Exactly-what-does-the-IRS-agent-think&p=14247#post14247) - 12 USC 95a(2)
post10734 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?737-IRS-inquiry-Do-incorrect-1099s-need-rebuttal&p=10734&viewfull=1#post10734)
post10738 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?737-IRS-inquiry-Do-incorrect-1099s-need-rebuttal&p=10738&viewfull=1#post10738)
post10754 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?737-IRS-inquiry-Do-incorrect-1099s-need-rebuttal&p=10754&viewfull=1#post10754)

Refunds
post10818 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?898-Happy-Day-for-One-Suitor&p=10818&viewfull=1#post10818)
post8885 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?758-IRS-recognizes-Redeeming-Lawful-Money-Yes!!!&p=8885&viewfull=1#post8885)
post8915 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?758-IRS-recognizes-Redeeming-Lawful-Money-Yes!!!&p=8915&viewfull=1#post8915)
post8907 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?758-IRS-recognizes-Redeeming-Lawful-Money-Yes!!!&p=8907&viewfull=1#post8907)
post13458 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1036-1st-Return-Redeeming-Lawful-Money&p=13458&viewfull=1#post13458) - 2013 Refund
post14389 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1193-I-am-looking&p=14389&viewfull=1#post14389)
post13542 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1036-1st-Return-Redeeming-Lawful-Money&p=13542&viewfull=1#post13542)
post15527 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?145-Exactly-what-does-the-IRS-agent-think&p=15527&viewfull=1#post15527)

IRS Attorney remark (hearsay)
post879 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?145-Exactly-what-does-the-IRS-agent-think&p=879&viewfull=1#post879)
post8182 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?705-Basis-in-Law&p=8182&viewfull=1#post8182)

Articles:
Public Money vs Private Credit (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_RUZmQmx5VW9wOFk/edit?usp=sharing) - by David Merrill
Federal Reserve Act Remedy (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_MkVzLV9jOHgwVEU/edit?usp=sharing) - by David Merrill
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/pdf/uscode12/lii_usc_TI_12_CH_3_SC_XII_SE_411.pdf
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/12/3/XII/411
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section16.htm
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lawfulmoney.asp

Audios:
David Merrill and Michael Joseph on Lawful Money (http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Guest-Speaker-Pages-Info.html#anchor_217)
John Henry Doe Audio Archive | Episode 124 | 9/1/2011 (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-528341.mp3)
Public Money vs Private Credit (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImYmZlMTU5ZGQtYTIyZi00NjZjLWIyM zctOWFkZjhhZDM1MGEy&hl=en_US)
Federal Reserve Act Remedy (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImNjA0NTQ5MTItNTg2Mi00N2QyLWE5Y 2UtMDMzNGU0YWE3NWE5&hl=en_US)

Videos:
Federal Reserve Act - Remedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6fxC5CXMg)


Feedback:
"...the soup to nuts version of Lawful Money (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1232-Remedies-when-Lawful-Money-demand-is-ignored-property-rights-violated&p=14937&viewfull=1#post14937)" - Thanks MJ !!!

The New Lawful Money Currency:
post 15076 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1254-The-BILL-is-NOT-a-BILL&p=15076&viewfull=1#post15076)

NOTICE: 1040 Help is only 1/3 of the remedy
The 3 Remedies (post12242) (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?1036-1st-Return-Redeeming-Lawful-Money&p=12242&viewfull=showthread.php1#post12242)

Ares
03-02-13, 12:29 AM
THANK YOU!!!!

That is extremely helpful.

David Merrill
03-02-13, 02:48 AM
Yes. Thank you Doug555!

theendresult
03-18-13, 02:41 PM
indeed, thank you Doug555. this is of great help. a question though, in looking at the supporting schedule, there is a line for a before tax deduction and an after tax deduction. everything else makes sense except for these two entries. what are they for?

thank you

jason david

Michael Joseph
06-07-13, 07:40 PM
The link for this post
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?844-1040-help&p=10099&viewfull=1#post10099

John Henry Doe – Lawful Money Reduction on 1040
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Guest-Speaker-Pages-Info.html#anchor_317

John Henry Doe Audio Archive | Episode 124 | 9/1/2011 John shared what he had learned from David Merrill and Michael Joseph (above) The Non-Endorsement
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-528341.mp3

Example 1040 Form
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Form_1040-2010-DLM_Example-08-25-2011.pdf (http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Form_1040-2010-DLM_Example-08-25-2011.pdf)

Demand for Lawful Money Schedule (OLD)
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/John_H__Doe-Demand_for_Lawful_Money_Sch-2010-08-25-2011.doc

David Merrill and Michael Joseph on Lawful Money
http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Guest-Speaker-Pages-Info.html#anchor_217

Public Money v. Private Credit
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1EaV_bU7VImYmZlMTU5ZGQtYTIyZi00NjZjLWIyMzctOWFkZ jhhZDM1MGEy/edit

Federal Reserve Act – Remedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6fxC5CXMg

Supporting Schedule for the 1040 Form (NEW)
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=10366&viewfull=1#post10366
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=10417&viewfull=1#post10417

Make Demand At Treasury - Both the debt and the reduction are TRANSACTION-BASED
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10380&viewfull=1#post10380
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10386&viewfull=1#post10386
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10397&viewfull=1#post10397
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10401&viewfull=1#post10401
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10405&viewfull=1#post10405
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10406&viewfull=1#post10406
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10437&viewfull=1#post10437
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10439&viewfull=1#post10439
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10440&viewfull=1#post10440
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?869-Make-Demand-At-Treasury&p=10442&viewfull=1#post10442

12 USC 95a(2) insurance policy
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?737-IRS-inquiry-Do-incorrect-1099s-need-rebuttal&p=10734&viewfull=1#post10734
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?737-IRS-inquiry-Do-incorrect-1099s-need-rebuttal&p=10738&viewfull=1#post10738

Refunds
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?898-Happy-Day-for-One-Suitor&p=10818&viewfull=1#post10818

Research Articles:
http://www.21silver.com/?show=merrill&read=public_money_vs_private_credit
http://www.21silver.com/?show=merrill&read=federal_reserve_act_remedy
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/pdf/uscode12/lii_usc_TI_12_CH_3_SC_XII_SE_411.pdf
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/12/3/XII/411
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section16.htm
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lawfulmoney.asp
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9462/libelofreview52012.pdf



Thank you DOUG555 for this resource. I appreciate your work - this just did not compile by itself.

David Merrill
06-07-13, 08:32 PM
Indeed I have spoken to several people lately who have made quite a study of this website. When people are interested, it sticks.

BigBlueOcean
08-31-14, 05:35 AM
If an account is ongoing, that is the books are not settled and closed, a reconciliation and correction of the record is an election any interested party may notice and demand from the accountants administering the books. If there is a mistake in the books, a mistake of ledger, that mistake can been corrected under the Law of Mistake. The intent of the principal party or a party in interest or a creditor, or accounting for the debtor can be properly expressed and the books corrected until the account is closed (death certificate) and final probate.

Where the account in the NAME is yet ongoing (with annual probate #24 (http://probate.mobilecountyal.gov/pdfs/administrator_handbook.pdf#page=10) and not final probate #26 (http://probate.mobilecountyal.gov/pdfs/administrator_handbook.pdf#page=10)), correcting accounting, even back to the beginning, appears to be an option.

A post at this site noted below asserts a limited effectiveness to an immediate yearly period (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html)


Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are the default currency in the United States. To avoid its usage fee (aka “income tax”), one simply has to demand lawful money, United States Notes (USNs) in the form of FRNs, be used instead, for all transactions, as provided for in 12 USC 411, by making a substantive record of that demand on records (checks and deposit slips) used by financial institutions in their normal course of business documentation, and thereby creating admissible evidence per Federal Rules of Evidence 803(6), and causing the presumed FRNs to be redeemed on an annual basis when 1040 Tax Returns are filed to enable this reconciliation of accounts.


I am electing to use Title 15 debt collection statutes to compel the mere debt collector IRS to account, which accounting will be s

Shylmysten
03-19-16, 07:13 AM
The link for this post:
post10099 (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?844-1040-help&p=10099&viewfull=1#post10099)

Hey doug,


I just wanted to say thank you for your hard work and efforts in putting this together. It is a great bare bones skeleton outline that allows one to "flesh out" more of the details. While all students don't have the same learning styles (some are visual and absorb what they read like a sponge, some are auditory learners and do better at listening, and still others learn better with a hands on approach, which in this area could be quite...shall we say punitive..), I have been able to navigate my way through the cornfields. I have always learned much more quickly and retained it better by listening while taking notes and applying what I learned in practice later on my own. I have noticed a lot of "lingo" very much exclusive to this journey that I did not understand that includes many anacronyms that I did not learn until much later when I stumbled on the origin or meaning in another post or thread at a later time, which makes comprehending what your are reading quite difficult at times. For example R4C...however, I just finished reading this gem in one of David Merrill's posts that is nothing more than a link in the post:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?245-Explanation-Letter-and-Admiralty-Article

After reading the two PDFs in the zip file behind the first link suddenly much of what I have read over the past week or so began to click. Posts I didn't understand before were translated at once. R4C made sense. Some of MJ's posts in "Teacher mode" where he asks questions and I had no idea what he was talking about (and I felt like a kid being scolded - no offense MJ, because I have always liked teachers that set my brain to work by asking me for the answer through phrasing the question properly so that when I found the answer, I would know it was exactly what I was seeking.) I just wanted to toss this in here because I know these PDFs were like a Rosetta stone that helped me start pulling some important pieces together that were not here in what you had listed. Thanks to the community here for all their efforts, it is greatly appreciated...and liberating too!

David Merrill
03-19-16, 04:57 PM
If an account is ongoing, that is the books are not settled and closed, a reconciliation and correction of the record is an election any interested party may notice and demand from the accountants administering the books. If there is a mistake in the books, a mistake of ledger, that mistake can been corrected under the Law of Mistake. The intent of the principal party or a party in interest or a creditor, or accounting for the debtor can be properly expressed and the books corrected until the account is closed (death certificate) and final probate.

Where the account in the NAME is yet ongoing (with annual probate #24 (http://probate.mobilecountyal.gov/pdfs/administrator_handbook.pdf#page=10) and not final probate #26 (http://probate.mobilecountyal.gov/pdfs/administrator_handbook.pdf#page=10)), correcting accounting, even back to the beginning, appears to be an option.

A post at this site noted below asserts a limited effectiveness to an immediate yearly period (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html)


Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are the default currency in the United States. To avoid its usage fee (aka “income tax”), one simply has to demand lawful money, United States Notes (USNs) in the form of FRNs, be used instead, for all transactions, as provided for in 12 USC 411, by making a substantive record of that demand on records (checks and deposit slips) used by financial institutions in their normal course of business documentation, and thereby creating admissible evidence per Federal Rules of Evidence 803(6), and causing the presumed FRNs to be redeemed on an annual basis when 1040 Tax Returns are filed to enable this reconciliation of accounts.


I am electing to use Title 15 debt collection statutes to compel the mere debt collector IRS to account, which accounting will be s

Elegant!

In my mind this demonstrates one objective truth. Which is to say that there are a variety of methods to approach it. There are as many perspectives on the truth as there are people speaking about it.

What you bring to my mind is the perspective I sometimes acquire that FRNs are insurance policies. Redemption is merely making a claim. I started a thread recently about settling the bill with a Redemption Stamp across the dead President, showing authority to Redeem across the boundary between the Treasury and the Fed.

I hope you share this.

shikamaru
03-20-16, 01:18 PM
Elegant!

In my mind this demonstrates one objective truth. Which is to say that there are a variety of methods to approach it. There are as many perspectives on the truth as there are people speaking about it.

What you bring to my mind is the perspective I sometimes acquire that FRNs are insurance policies. Redemption is merely making a claim. I started a thread recently about settling the bill with a Redemption Stamp across the dead President, showing authority to Redeem across the boundary between the Treasury and the Fed.

I hope you share this.

Could FRNs be likened to stock certificates?

David Merrill
03-20-16, 02:49 PM
Could FRNs be likened to stock certificates?


Exactly. My purpose about the insurance model is to explain why the admiralty law presides. If a stock certificate is endorsed in general, like FRN's as bills, then they can be passed. If you redeem the certificate then it is no longer any good. If you redeem the FRN it is no longer any good.

This happened lately and I showed this on a thread. The new suitor, in setting up an evidence repository was using a large Demand stamp and putting it across the dead President on the front of the certificate. Defacing it and emptying it of value, as it was livered to the clerk of court of the United States (Federal Reserve) District. So the clerk of court, consulting with the attorney in a federal judge robe had to accept that this bill set had no value, but was to be honored or admit the suitor had the authority to deface the money with impunity.

Does not the power to destroy only compliment the power to create?


P.S. The postage stamp value being absorbed in labor and technology is a great example of redeeming a stock certificate.

P.P.S. Post works in many ways. This is the numero-linguistic interface in action. Post-Demand (after the demand) the authority to create off the bill is released. The postal clerk calls his round-date "cancellation".

Shylmysten
03-23-16, 07:46 PM
Elegant!

In my mind this demonstrates one objective truth. Which is to say that there are a variety of methods to approach it. There are as many perspectives on the truth as there are people speaking about it.

What you bring to my mind is the perspective I sometimes acquire that FRNs are insurance policies. Redemption is merely making a claim. I started a thread recently about settling the bill with a Redemption Stamp across the dead President, showing authority to Redeem across the boundary between the Treasury and the Fed.

I hope you share this.

Can you provide a link to that thread please David? THANKS!

PilgrimPublisher
07-03-16, 02:14 AM
Thanks, doug!

I've been studying this info and your 1040relief website and just want to clarify a point you made.

You said "...out-going amounts of LAWFUL money excluded..." (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html) - this means personal checks I write to companies to pay bills, correct?

In-coming amounts would be payroll checks and other deposits to my bank account, correct?

Thanks in advance!

doug555
07-03-16, 05:45 PM
Thanks, doug!

I've been studying this info and your 1040relief website and just want to clarify a point you made.

You said "...out-going amounts of LAWFUL money excluded..." (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html) - this means personal checks I write to companies to pay bills, correct?

In-coming amounts would be payroll checks and other deposits to my bank account, correct?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, correct. Good question!

The outgoing amounts are presumed to be lawful money since all incoming amounts have been (will be) redeemed via 1040 Form filing.

Including any outgoing amounts on Line 21 would be "double-dipping" in effect... IMO.

American_National
07-03-16, 06:59 PM
Their U.C.C. operating procedures may be helpful in this regard as well (I'm thinking in written form here) . . .

U.C.C. Section 3-114: If there are contradictory terms on a check, typewritten terms prevail over printed terms, handwritten terms prevail over both, and words prevail over numbers.

So how do we use their own operational parameter rules to our favor in making our demand for the payment of our check/draft medium of exchange in lawful money of value ONLY?


Try this: (my poor attempt at trying to recreate the face of a personal check/draft)


Pay to the order of: ABC Company _________________. $[See Below]

One hundred and no/hundredths U.S. issued lawful money of value in units of Dollars
This is a Title 12 USC §411 described lawful
money of value consumer transaction
For: described in UCC 3-103(a)(3). . . . . . . . . . . . . .By demand: your autograph, maker (UCC 3-103(a)(7))


Analysis:

1. Per the 4 corners [ ] rule, you have eliminated them establishing an exchange ratio for purposes of this transaction between their $[### ] "FRN's" and the long-form written value expressed in "Dollars" below their $BOX.

2. You have ordered the payment of this check/draft to be made in U.S. situs based lawful money of value in units of "Dollars", and not foreign/private FRN bills of credit evidencing a debt.

3. You have described the purpose of this check/draft as being the actual payment (not discharge) of a consumer transaction in value.

4. You have made your compliance with 12 USC 411 "By demand:" known as the maker of this check/draft. (transacting absent accommodation is authorized per U.C.C. 4-205)

5. No fractional reserve fabrication of additional debt is allowed resultant to your "non-accommodation" of their private-credit FRN instruments.


What are your comments/questions in relation to the above approach in building your administrative record for such lawful money offsets on your annual tax return(s)?

doug555
07-03-16, 09:55 PM
Their U.C.C. operating procedures may be helpful in this regard as well (I'm thinking in written form here) . . .

U.C.C. Section 3-114: If there are contradictory terms on a check, typewritten terms prevail over printed terms, handwritten terms prevail over both, and words prevail over numbers.

So how do we use their own operational parameter rules to our favor in making our demand for the payment of our check/draft medium of exchange in lawful money of value ONLY?


Try this: (my poor attempt at trying to recreate the face of a personal check/draft)


Pay to the order of: ABC Company _________________. $[See Below]

One hundred and no/hundredths U.S. issued lawful money of value in units of Dollars
This is a Title 12 USC §411 described lawful
money of value consumer transaction
For: described in UCC 3-103(a)(3). . . . . . . . . . . . . .By demand: your autograph, maker (UCC 3-103(a)(7))


Analysis:

1. Per the 4 corners [ ] rule, you have eliminated them establishing an exchange ratio for purposes of this transaction between their $[### ] "FRN's" and the long-form written value expressed in "Dollars" below their $BOX.

2. You have ordered the payment of this check/draft to be made in U.S. situs based lawful money of value in units of "Dollars", and not foreign/private FRN bills of credit evidencing a debt.

3. You have described the purpose of this check/draft as being the actual payment (not discharge) of a consumer transaction in value.

4. You have made your compliance with 12 USC 411 "By demand:" known as the maker of this check/draft. (transacting absent accommodation is authorized per U.C.C. 4-205)

5. No fractional reserve fabrication of additional debt is allowed resultant to your "non-accommodation" of their private-credit FRN instruments.


What are your comments/questions in relation to the above approach in building your administrative record for such lawful money offsets on your annual tax return(s)?

IMO, the DEMAND in 12 USC 411 has to do with the REDEMPTION, and not ISSUANCE, of lawful money.

The presumed and legitimate default currency in USA is FRN Fiat Notes.

Redemption of same can only occur in the after-the-fact usage of same.

Therefore, I believe we cannot demand payment in lawful money, per se.

However. we can state that "lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all transactions 12 USC 411, 95a(2)" so that we can redeem these same amounts on a subsequent 1040 Form on line 21.

Make sense?

Michael Joseph
07-04-16, 12:01 AM
doug,

That makes perfect sense. A demand for lawful money is a lawful claim upon a Trustee. In other words, one is requesting relief and the trustee must consult the bylaws to see if relief can be granted. The claimant makes a demand and this demand is not the act of redemption - rather it is a request FOR redemption.

To go Scriptural - we confess sins before the Mercy Seat of Christ but we cannot forgive our trespass upon the Divine. Free will is upheld in Choice. So when I have a choice, I choose life. But I must give another the same choice I had and have.

Best regards,
MJ

American_National
07-05-16, 04:29 AM
IMO, the DEMAND in 12 USC 411 has to do with the REDEMPTION, and not ISSUANCE, of lawful money.

The presumed and legitimate default currency in USA is FRN Fiat Notes.

Redemption of same can only occur in the after-the-fact usage of same.

Therefore, I believe we cannot demand payment in lawful money, per se.

However. we can state that "lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all transactions 12 USC 411, 95a(2)" so that we can redeem these same amounts on a subsequent 1040 Form on line 21.

Make sense?



Thank you for your thoughts and feedback . . . Great thought process and good verbiage above.

I can see a version of the above working to fully discharge/remove accommodation party status for the holder/payee in transacting the check/draft "medium of exchange" to keep it payable on the U.S. Treasury side of the house, but where would you, as the maker of any check/draft - place such payment restrictions on the face of the above working example of our check when it is labeled as - "Pay to the Order of: _ABC Company___ ?

The payee could place the following form of non-endorsement in writing on the back of the check/draft before transacting it to accomplish our goal:

**********************************************
Payee orders payment made in lawful money of the
United States and full discharge of accommodation
status is demanded for all related transactions.


transacting absent accommodation is authorized in U.C.C. 4-205
Auth: ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251-275; Title 12 U.S.C. §411, §95a(2).

**********************************************

Or alternatively - an autograph could be placed below the payee order like the example shown below:

**********************************************
Payee orders payment made in lawful money of the
United States and full discharge of accommodation
status is demanded for all related transactions.

By: _______________________________________, Payee
Auth: ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251-275; Title 12 U.S.C. §411, §95a(2).

**********************************************

Maybe the maker of the check/draft could place their demand in the For or Memo: ______________ field on the front of the check???

Maker requires payment to be made in lawful money of the
United States ONLY and full discharge for accommodation
status of parties in all related transactions is demanded.
Auth: ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251-275; Title 12 U.S.C. §411, §95a(2).


Any better or more precise/concise thoughts on how the maker can remove any remaining ambiguity restrict the transacting and payment of their check/draft to "lawful money" of the United States and keep their business affairs on the U.S. Treasury side of the house?

American_National
07-05-16, 06:00 AM
That makes perfect sense. A demand for lawful money is a lawful claim upon a Trustee. In other words, one is requesting relief and the trustee must consult the bylaws to see if relief can be granted. The claimant makes a demand and this demand is not the act of redemption - rather it is a request FOR redemption.

To go Scriptural - we confess sins before the Mercy Seat of Christ but we cannot forgive our trespass upon the Divine. Free will is upheld in Choice. So when I have a choice, I choose life. But I must give another the same choice I had and have.

Best regards,
MJ

Thanks MJ . . .

You had said: A demand for lawful money is a lawful claim upon a Trustee.

Agreed. . . Fiscal/Depository agents of the Federal Reserve system act in "trustee" capacity on behalf of the U.S. Dept. of the Treasury. . .

The Federal Reserve system and their affiliated member banks serves as a fiscal and depository agent for the United States Government. In this role, the Reserve Banks perform a variety of services for the U.S. Department of the Treasury, other Federal Agencies and government-sponsored enterprises.

You had said: In other words, one is requesting relief and the trustee must consult the bylaws to see if relief can be granted.

Agreed . . . Their operating-agreement bylaws and duties/obligations are detailed within ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251-275, The Federal Reserve Act of 1913, as lawfully amended. Their bylaws and authority to provide such relief upon demand by any maker, holder or payee are currently found within (Dec. 23, 1913, ch. 6, Sec. 16 (par.), 38 Stat. 265; Jan. 30, 1934, ch. 6, Sec. 2(b)(1), 48 Stat. 337; Aug. 23, 1935, ch. 614, title II, Sec. 203(a), 49 Stat. 704.)


You had said: The claimant makes a demand and this demand is not the act of redemption - rather it is a request FOR redemption.

Agreed . . . Holder/Payee fulfills the "on demand" conditional requirement for giving notice of their right to avoid contracting themselves into accommodation/surety of debt instruments "servitude" and exercise their right to use "lawful money" of the United States in their transactions as specified within Section 16(par.) of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, et. seq.

You had said: To go Scriptural - we confess sins before the Mercy Seat of Christ but we cannot forgive our trespass upon the Divine.

Thomas 7:8 Jesus said: Whoever blasphemes against the Father, it shall be forgiven him, and whoever blasphemes against the Son, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either on earth or in heaven.

Exactly! Forgiveness of trespass/sin is a two part process: First, there must be a positive act of regret/repentance on the part of the transgressor/sinner - and then an act of forgiveness can occur for such transgressions/sins.

repent (v.) (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=repent&allowed_in_frame=0) c. 1300, "to feel such regret for sins or crimes as produces amendment of life," from Old French repentir (11c.), from re-, here probably an intensive prefix (see re- (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=re-&allowed_in_frame=0)), + Vulgar Latin *penitire "to regret," from Latin poenitire "make sorry," from poena (see penal (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=penal&allowed_in_frame=0)). The distinction between regret (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=regret&allowed_in_frame=0) (q.v.) and repent is made in many modern languages, but the differentiation is not present in older periods. Also from c. 1300 in Middle English and after in an impersonal reflexive sense, especially as (it) repenteth (me, him, etc.).


1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.



You had said: Free will is upheld in Choice. So when I have a choice, I choose life. But I must give another the same choice I had and have.

Joshua 24:14 Now therefore fear the "I AM", and serve Him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the "I AM".

24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the "I AM", choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the "I AM".

:D

doug555
07-06-16, 04:38 PM
Thank you for your thoughts and feedback . . . Great thought process and good verbiage above.

I can see a version of the above working to fully discharge/remove accommodation party status for the holder/payee in transacting the check/draft "medium of exchange" to keep it payable on the U.S. Treasury side of the house, but where would you, as the maker of any check/draft - place such payment restrictions on the face of the above working example of our check when it is labeled as - "Pay to the Order of: _ABC Company___ ?

The payee could place the following form of non-endorsement in writing on the back of the check/draft before transacting it to accomplish our goal:

**********************************************
Payee orders payment made in lawful money of the
United States and full discharge of accommodation
status is demanded for all related transactions.


transacting absent accommodation is authorized in U.C.C. 4-205
Auth: ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251-275; Title 12 U.S.C. §411, §95a(2).

**********************************************

Or alternatively - an autograph could be placed below the payee order like the example shown below:

**********************************************
Payee orders payment made in lawful money of the
United States and full discharge of accommodation
status is demanded for all related transactions.

By: _______________________________________, Payee
Auth: ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251-275; Title 12 U.S.C. §411, §95a(2).

**********************************************

Maybe the maker of the check/draft could place their demand in the For or Memo: ______________ field on the front of the check???

Maker requires payment to be made in lawful money of the
United States ONLY and full discharge for accommodation
status of parties in all related transactions is demanded.
Auth: ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251-275; Title 12 U.S.C. §411, §95a(2).


Any better or more precise/concise thoughts on how the maker can remove any remaining ambiguity restrict the transacting and payment of their check/draft to "lawful money" of the United States and keep their business affairs on the U.S. Treasury side of the house?

4247

http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/getting-started.html?m=1

Above is exactly how I do it. And it works.

David Merrill
07-06-16, 05:15 PM
Thanks again Doug!

PilgrimPublisher
11-18-16, 12:30 AM
When you file would one still use Schedule A? And enter the standard exemption$?

This is for a partial RLM- haven't been doing it the entire year.

Chex
11-18-16, 02:03 PM
When you file would one still use Schedule A? turbo tax does that for me.

Line 21. Holder/Payee fulfills the "on demand" conditional requirement for giving notice of their right to avoid contracting themselves into accommodation/surety of debt instruments "servitude" and exercise their right to use "lawful money" of the United States in their transactions as specified within Section 16(par.) of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, et. seq.

This is reporting.....> By following FRCP 803(6) rule of hearsay exceptions, one is making a substantive record on documents used in the normal course of business. By writing “lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all transactions 12 USC 411, 95a(2)” on all commercial instruments (deposit slips, checks, etc), one enables the equitable title transfer of the credit (labor) held by the United States Treasury via the Federal Reserve Banks since the April 5, 1933 Executive Order 6102 of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, which transfer then enables the Trustee to setoff the national debt to that extent. This 803(6) rule of hearsay exceptions was just amended on 12/1/14 (see http://federalevidence.com/node/1981).

Expounding.

From http://govqa.com/ to http://federalevidence.com/print/1981 Public records (record forming) are defined in FOIA as "all records, reports, forms, writings, letters, memoranda, books, papers, maps, photographs, microfilms, cards, tapes, recordings, electronic data processing records, electronic communications, recorded information and all other documentary materials pertaining to the transaction of public business, regardless of physical form or characteristics, having been prepared by or for, or having been or being used by, received by, in the possession of, or under the control of any public body (https://www.google.com/search?q=public+body&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-ContextMenu&ie=&oe=)."

Makes you wonder if the national debt can be reduced even faster. 1040 other taxes paid (https://www.google.com/search?q=1040+other+taxes+paid&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=) "Any estimated taxes you paid to state or local governments during the year, and; Any prior "

doug555
11-19-16, 12:41 AM
When you file would one still use Schedule A? And enter the standard exemption$?

This is for a partial RLM- haven't been doing it the entire year.

See HERE (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?870-Supporting-Schedule-for-the-1040-Form&p=10366&viewfull=1#post10366) for example Supporting Schedule for a RLM split-year

The 1040 has all schedules filed as you would normally file and did file before doing RLM.

ag maniac
11-19-16, 12:50 PM
Just for clarification Doug555.......

The hourly wage earner has SS & medicare withheld......but the employer must also put the other 50% of that tax into the kitty.

So on Line 7 goes the total wages for that employee....and on Line 21 goes the total of Line 7 PLUS the employer's part of SS & FICA ?????

doug555
11-23-16, 06:31 PM
Just for clarification Doug555.......

The hourly wage earner has SS & medicare withheld......but the employer must also put the other 50% of that tax into the kitty.

So on Line 7 goes the total wages for that employee....and on Line 21 goes the total of Line 7 PLUS the employer's part of SS & FICA ?????


IMO, since that transaction does NOT show up on your W-2, I would not include it. Because, that assumes that they actually paid that amount - and you actually have no non-hearsay evidence of that occurring.

Very good and insightful question! I am sure that others had the same concern.

David Merrill
11-23-16, 07:07 PM
Thank you for parsing that out, more precisely than my, Do not try getting insurance premiums back.

ag maniac
11-24-16, 07:33 AM
IMO, since that transaction does NOT show up on your W-2, I would not include it. Because, that assumes that they actually paid that amount - and you actually have no non-hearsay evidence of that occurring.

Very good and insightful question! I am sure that others had the same concern.

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Thanx Doug555......I asked that particular question in regards to a post you made in July (http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?2180-Capital-gains-tax-and-remedy&p=22498&viewfull=1#post22498) ....my presumption then that Line 7 matches Line 21, but your reply saying 21 was greater than 7 because of derivative transactions SS & medicare.

Would you please address this for my peace of mind ?

And yes DM, we know we ain't gettin' no premiums back ;-]

doug555
07-04-17, 08:28 PM
Lawful Money Demand Confirmed in 1933

Redemption Declared
1. On December 23, 1913, Section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act, in referring to Federal Reserve notes, stated “The said notes shall be obligations of the United States… They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States...”. This statement was codified as 12 USC 411.

Redemption Confirmed
2. On June 5, 1933, Congress, in House Joint Resolution 192 declared that “Every obligation… shall be discharged upon payment, dollar for dollar...”. This resolution became Public Law 73-10 at 48 STAT. 112. This language clearly indicates a redemption of Federal Reserve notes into lawful money (United States notes) so that an obligation can be truly discharged and extinguished by lawful asset instruments. Federal Reserve notes are liability instruments, a “promise of payment”, and therefore cannot constitute “payment”. A debt cannot discharge a debt; it can only displace it to another holder thereof. This “dollar for dollar” redemption was confirmed in 1933 in order to mitigate Congressman McFadden’s May 23 charges of theft of all of the gold from the American people that started on May 1, 1933.

However, how does this “dollar for dollar” redemption actually occur in the American economy?

How do Americans effectively and timely discharge these obligations of the United States (Federal Reserve notes) in order to prevent an ever-increasing national debt?

Is there already a form and procedure in place that would allow this redemption and discharge to occur on a periodic basis?

What about using the IRS Form 1040 to facilitate the ledgering of this redemption accounting?

Could one use Line 21 of that form to report the total amount of Federal Reserve notes that is being demanded to be redeemed for that tax year?

If one had demanded lawful money for all transactions that were presumed to be using Federal Reserve notes for the entire year, would not the total of those transactions have to be reported on Line 21 so that all of those amounts are redeemed?

Would not such an accounting mechanism effectively reduce the national debt of the United States?

Was it not the intent of Congress that Federal Reserve notes were to be redeemed for lawful money, in order to prevent an ever-increasing national debt?

Would not an attack on this intent of Congress, calling such a mechanism “frivolous”, constitute a violation of 12 USC 411, requiring reporting per 18 USC 4?

Is it possible that rogue Agents may be overstepping their authority, for which the Principal is liable?

Michael Joseph
07-04-17, 10:10 PM
All questions must be framed within some context. So this question begs are you speaking of the dejure State or are you referencing the collection districts where the State's persona operates? The States' persona of course may incorporate other associations and corporations by grafting them into the main tree.

All men are endowed by their creator with unalienable rights.....

That statement does not necessarily speak to the human being. It speaks to the State as the corporation of Men who sowed the seed as Testators form the State. Thusly do these sowers of seed endow the State [the vessel] with unalienable rights. No property ever leaves the State! They do this in the capacity as Settlor. The Man then receives surgery as the Woman is formed of his body. Which is to say the Woman is the "Government of the State". The Government, of course, is the helper of the Man [State].

Thusly is established the Father and the Mother. Now with this fractal in mind, one can easily see the analogy of Adam/Eve and the Serpent is therefore the Money Changer in the Temple. That makes Adam/Eve the first State made in a particular image. Clearly now one can relate this analogy to Jesus forming a whip and driving the money changers out.

But before we go pointing fingers, let me help you first clean your own temple . Have you formed a whip as yet. Let me form a whip to show you how.... I am Great, I am. I am Good, I am. I am Successful, I am. I am with eternal Wealth, I am. I am with the Mind of God, I am. I am anointed I am. This whip drives away the thoughts of compromise and negativity from the Temple.

And thusly THIS DAY have I gone up to Jerusalem to observe the Feast!

The Settlors of the State Create what will be Money in terms of their own Body for their own children. What is being said is Domestically the Settlor establishes what Money will be. The Right of Money is held in the Administration [Government]. The Use of said Right is called Possession and is NOT ownership. The Use therefore binds one to the obligation of the Use. Otherwise one is stealing. Thou shall not steal.

Many try to steal from their Mother and their Father and thusly are cut off from the Land. Of course the Land is the State which is a Mental Realm. For all Law operates upon a Thing. And said Thing may be corporeal or incorporeal. For instance a Legal Name is a Thing that is incorporeal. Said Thing may even be intellectual creation and the Right to Use said creation is birthed of the Mother [Government] and thusly owned by the Father [State]. For the children of Sarah belonged to Abraham.

How miserable is the being who reflects these archetypes of thought into flesh. Not only are these thoughts poverty in flesh but the ones who live in these literal thought archetypes are poverty themselves. Now it is easy to see that the Money Changers are RUNNING THE TEMPLE. And we can see that the State has been mortgaged and thusly the Mother has been taken away! [Ref Hosea 2] - This is another way of saying "your land is desolate."

This explanation is made according to the interpretation of the kings/queens. When one frames this in universal archetypes one will come to see things that are indeed very uncomfortable. For instance Communism was birthed of Capitalism and is used as a tool to keep the mass [cattle] in check thru fear. But here is something interesting, at anytime one may exercise right of self determination and in doing so one does not escape Rome but one does form a new Body. Of course this formation of State is merely political as one must as Sampson go to ask Father to get him a Wife. Perhaps Father will say no but you will have no subjects.

Most men eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil which relates to the two pillars Jachin and Boaz. For one is God and the other the Devil. Always trapped in dialectics most never come to see there is only One Power. Not two. Others will say I must experience bad [ra] to know the good. Why? Are these not subject to interpretation? For if one lacks the sense of touch what of rough and soft? Are these not subject to sense? Which relates to experience and the Observer - and God saw.

Putting on the pants [new understandings] of a Man one may then arise to the level of Spirit [universal mind] which understands all matter. This is Christ Jesus in analogy. But then there are Laws established that govern matter. This is Natural Law and thusly is the Will of the Creator known by and thru the observation of Natural Law. All States are Mental as you cannot touch, smell, hear, taste, or see the State. Said Laws birthed of the State act upon Things. Said Things are subject to Spirit. When one unites these two one has enjoined Heaven with Earth. And one has received a New Heaven and a New Earth - for now is the old paradigm of thought washed away.

Now one can easily see the The Way in Being of the Creator is established in the Creator's Law. Can a King and His Dominion be separate? Can The Way be separate from The Word? And now we can see the children have forgotten The Way and now is the House desolate. Who can deny it? As wolves stand in the pulpit and teach the children non-sense we hear in the back ground rock a bye baby! Agents of the Money Changers in the Temple selling souls into debt.

However, Noah is found in the tent [consciousness] drunk on the new Wine [understandings]. Enters Ham to whisper in his ear [can this be true]? Ever had those thoughts? The entire Kingdom is built on Trust. Have you come to the Noah state of being? Is it now time to plant a new vineyard? For the Use of Law is a benefit to the User and binds the User to the Realm. Now stretch the tent chords a bit and ask yourself - what of English? Who put these words in my mouth? In my hand? [B]Speak now - if you can. I cannot for to make a use is to be bound to the Creator. But then like a bolt of lightning - I am - because God Is.

We all have donned flesh and thusly are born under Law. Is it not obvious the ancient tale. Eve laid down with another lover. For the first child Cain was not Adam's Child. In intercourse with this other lover, Adam who knew of it did not stop it - thusly in silence, he consents and is also guilty. In other words, the judgment for Adultery is also upon his head. See now the act of homosexuality. Men leaving the natural use of the woman. And now we see the Man is the State and the Woman the government of the State. And now - what of the children? Are they forgotten [Hosea 4:6] should the Father and Mother be dead - civilly speaking [in debt]? Who will help the Widow and the Orphaned children? This other lover? Is this not the Serpent in the midst of the garden -the banker?

who shall keep the books?

Michael Joseph
07-04-17, 10:17 PM
who indeed shall keep the books? Ref 1st Chronicles 2:55. Those who can see realize that Hemath is of Cain. For the House of Rechab see Jeremiah 35. And Jabez was a possession of Judah. And Judah is the king line. See now a 3rd party is keeping the books - what is new under the sun?

For instance and this is what I mean - most folks think Money is real. Can you believe that?

Money is merely an accounting tool. It is a measure of energy and thusly represents a store of potential energy which may be exchanged for what is real. Thusly the concept of Money replaces the concept of Barter. For Barter exchanges what is Real.

The concept of Credit does not reflect energy accounted for by the laborer. Rather, it makes a use of someone else's energy in order to obtain a purchase which is merely a temporary possession. But Credit too is merely a book entry system of the Store Keeper.

Since money reflects a store of energy [labor], the energy is real and the accounting of the energy is Money which is merely BOOK ENTRIES. The question is whose books? Federal Reserve or United States. The bees labor to make honey and the cattle - err excuse me ants - err excuse me the inhabitants labor to make money. Money therefore reflects the growth or contractions of a State's commercial power. And now we can clearly see that the State is actually a very large FARM. Ever read ANIMAL FARM?

And the migrant workers on the Farm are merely tenants [share croppers] who pay a rent for the use of the State in order to possess the Land and bring forth increase. Examining the mental state of mankind these days it is not hard to see his external world too in shambles. For the kingdom of God is within and without. And given the selfishness of society why not one to rule them all?

Michael Joseph
07-04-17, 10:24 PM
Then the Husbandmen [trustees] said come he is the heir of all things let us kill him and the estate will be ours.

How could they say that? Can they not manage the estate and take from it for their own maintenance? If the heir is ignorant of his true estate, then how can he be set apart [Saint or Zadok]? How can he sow seed as a testator? And should the heir of all things think to enjoin self in community for the good is this not a death to self for the good of the all? Who now would like to be king?

I am reminded of Metallica - you know the song. What happens to the worthless trustee when he is discovered? Comes now Onesimus to Philemon across the age. A run away slave to be sure, but holding truth. The Jubilee has come and gone and where is Peter to set the inhabitants free? Is he still Peter - and when shall he be Simon Bar Jona? We await that transformation to be sure - above all friends we seek TRUTH.

Do not the trustees carry out the orders? Executives as it were. Indeed friends the kingdom of God is right before your very eyes. It is NOW.

Michael Joseph
07-04-17, 10:28 PM
Should Eve choose another lover [banker], then she has committed Adultery. Ref Deut 24. The husbandman may divorce her [civilly dead]. But now with an unnatural use is the Husbandman in accord with another Man [banker]. The ancient tale - is this not an unnatural use of the woman? What is this? Men having intercourse with other Men? And then giving the woman a choice between the two? Where is the sanctity of Marriage? Can Eve [citizen] be true to her Husband? Can her Husband be true to his Wife? Is the whole body sick?

Is the House desolate?

How can an indigent woman [remember the bee hive] ever seek settlement in a court seeing she has nothing with which to pay? What need of judges who have proper oaths to this adulterous harlot? She is not true to the treasury anyway as she is always without on the street corner seeking a new lover. What of these judges - I put it to you, do they need an oath to this woman?

If judgment issued could the woman pay? With what? [Ref Isaiah 52:3]. There is no such thing as group salvation - this is an individual thing. But reach one teach one. And pass the five.

Some come for the free fish sandwich and to have their ears tickled. Others are more serious and actually obtain to the blessing of doing.

Let us restore the ancient paths by throwing the Money Changers out of the temple. Within the ears and without! There already exists a lawful means to do so - Education and Execution of Knowledge is the key. Time to put on the pants [Understanings] of a Man.

Best regards,
Michael Joseph

Michael Joseph
07-04-17, 10:45 PM
Of course we all know where no property has been transferred no trust can exist. Therefore what of a Fee? A trustee usually buys the Estate from the Grantor and then the Estate is held by the Trustee/Grantee for the benefit of the true heir and the trustee may take profits of the Estate for his own maintenance. Of course the true owner will require of the trustee a yearly accounting of the Estate.

A presumption exists why does a yearly accounting [return] exist without a trust relationship? I have found it takes a bit of explaining sometimes to the administration before it is understood the nature of the relationship as the false presumptions are refused upon valid causes.

I choose life and the Good in Unity for Peace and Righteousness of the Body for the benefit of All.

doug555
07-07-17, 01:04 AM
On July 5, I launched a 12 USC 411 TWITTER CAMPAIGN for a Presidential Executive Order directing the Secretary of the Treasury to enforce existing LAW requiring the redemption of Federal Reserve notes by requiring the honoring of all substantiated redemption demands filed by taxpayers on the IRS Form 1040 on Line 21, effective immediately and retroactively for the past three tax years.


See my updated website page at: http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html)

We need a grassroots TWITTER CAMPAIGN to get President Trump’s attention on this issue!

The 30% PAY RAISE is real and attention-getting, but the focus is and truly must be on the goal to reduce our national debt, which many leaders have acknowledged is a clear and present danger to our national security!

Below are some suggested TWEETS that we can selectively and respectfully submit and Retweet wisely and appropriately until it’s DONE!

...

Imagine a TRUMP EO giving taxpayers a 30% PAY RAISE by enforcing THIS EXISTING LAW!
#12USC411 - See http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html)

...

Retweet if you want TRUMP to enforce existing LAW that gives taxpayers an instant 30% PAY RAISE!
#12USC411 - See http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html)

...

See Proposed Press Release to give taxpayers a 30% PAY RAISE while reducing the national debt!
#12USC411 - See http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html)

...

POLL: Should TRUMP enforce EXISTING LAW that gives taxpayers an instant 30% PAY RAISE?
#12USC411 - See http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html (http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html)

marcel
07-07-17, 10:16 PM
Found your twitter campaign, thanks https://mobile.twitter.com/LawfulMoney

Regarding the form 1040, I've found the IRS will eventually come around and agree - lawful money income is not federal income and thus nontaxable. The trust law stuff is helpful, thank you Michael.

Michael Joseph
07-07-17, 10:27 PM
Found your twitter campaign, thanks https://mobile.twitter.com/LawfulMoney

Regarding the form 1040, I've found the IRS will eventually come around and agree - lawful money income is not federal income and thus nontaxable. The trust law stuff is helpful, thank you Michael.

You are welcome. The trust stuff is what matters most. The reason they agree is because the property has not been transferred, granted or bargained for to a grantee/trustee.

doug555
07-08-17, 02:03 PM
Found your twitter campaign, thanks https://mobile.twitter.com/LawfulMoney

Regarding the form 1040, I've found the IRS will eventually come around and agree - lawful money income is not federal income and thus nontaxable. The trust law stuff is helpful, thank you Michael.


Thanks for your feedback... David's new Garnishment technology is convincing too.

My TWITTER CAMPAIGN is here: http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html

Just tell people to Google "12 USC 411 Relief" !

I will create business cards to handout too.

doug555
07-10-17, 09:23 PM
My TWITTER CAMPAIGN is here: http://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/12-usc-411.html

Just tell people to Google "12 USC 411 Relief" !



Below is a Tweet I published today as a retweet of a timely JW (Judicial Watch) Tweet.

Is anyone else interested in this TWITTER CAMPAIGN yet?

Think of how many struggling taxpayers we could help with a 30% PAY RAISE!

AND, and at the same time, reduce the National Debt by redeeming FRNs!

Can you think of a better ECONOMIC STIMULUS PACKAGE than this?



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doug555
11-03-18, 02:20 PM
See: https://1040relief.blogspot.com

marcel
11-06-18, 06:40 AM
Been awhile since we heard from the doug555 persona.
Thanks for chiming in, doug. The next overdue account is ... how about "george" - we haven't seen that login since June.

doug555
05-21-19, 05:11 PM
NOTICE: Please stop requesting my past documents.

SEE: https://1040relief.blogspot.com/p/warning.html

My latest info is here:

http://drspma.blogspot.com

http://pentecostnation.org/

http://pentecostnation.freeforums.net/


..............

Richierich
08-30-22, 04:08 PM
If an account is ongoing, that is the books are not settled and closed, a reconciliation and correction of the record is an election any interested party may notice and demand from the accountants administering the books. If there is a mistake in the books, a mistake of ledger, that mistake can been corrected under the Law of Mistake. The intent of the principal party or a party in interest or a creditor, or accounting for the debtor can be properly expressed and the books corrected until the account is closed (death certificate) and final probate.

Where the account in the NAME is yet ongoing (with annual probate #24 (http://probate.mobilecountyal.gov/pdfs/administrator_handbook.pdf#page=10) and not final probate #26 (http://probate.mobilecountyal.gov/pdfs/administrator_handbook.pdf#page=10)), correcting accounting, even back to the beginning, appears to be an option.

A post at this site noted below asserts a limited effectiveness to an immediate yearly period (http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/income-tax-usage-fee.html)


Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are the default currency in the United States. To avoid its usage fee (aka “income tax”), one simply has to demand lawful money, United States Notes (USNs) in the form of FRNs, be used instead, for all transactions, as provided for in 12 USC 411, by making a substantive record of that demand on records (checks and deposit slips) used by financial institutions in their normal course of business documentation, and thereby creating admissible evidence per Federal Rules of Evidence 803(6), and causing the presumed FRNs to be redeemed on an annual basis when 1040 Tax Returns are filed to enable this reconciliation of accounts.


I am electing to use Title 15 debt collection statutes to compel the mere debt collector IRS to account, which accounting will be s

I know this is an old thread but hopefully @BigBlueOcean is still around and can help shed some light on their use of Title 15 when dealing with the IRS ??