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The faith I live by

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Know ye that Yehovah, He is Elohim.
He has made us, and not we ourselves.
We are His people, and the sheep of His pasture.

Psalm 100:3


The work of creation cannot be explained by science. What science can explain the mystery of life?
Life is a gift of God.

The natural life is preserved moment by moment by divine power; yet it is not sustained by a direct miracle, but through the use of blessings placed within our reach.

The Saviour in His miracles revealed the power that is continually at work in man's behalf, to sustain and to heal him. Through the agencies of nature, God is working, day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment, to keep us alive, to build up and restore us. When any part of the body sustains injury, a healing process is at once begun; nature's agencies are set at work to restore soundness. But the power working through these agencies is the power of God. All life-giving power is from Him. When one recovers from disease, it is God who restores him. Sickness, suffering, and death are work of an antagonistic power. Satan is the destroyer; God is the restorer.

A great lesson is learned when we understand our relation to God, and His relation to us.
We have an individuality and an identity that is our own. No one can submerge his identity in that of any other. All must act for themselves, according to the dictates of their own conscience. As regards our responsibility and influence, we are amenable to God as deriving our life from Him. This we do not obtain from humanity, but from God only. We are His by creation and by redemption. Our very bodies are not our own, to treat as we please, to cripple by habits that lead to decay, making it impossible to render to God perfect service. Our lives and all our faculties belong to Him. He is caring for us every moment; He keeps the living machinery in action; if we were left to run it for one moment, we should die. We are absolutely dependent upon God.

E.G. White, The Faith I Live By, p.165
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  1. Inhisimage's Avatar
    The God(s) of Joseph and Sister White

    Joseph's God
    Joseph's God was dependable. He meant what he said. He carried through on his promise. Four hundred years did not diminish his promise. Your faith is increased when you read of this God’s faithfulness. Thousands of years later bible writers would cite Joseph's relationship with his God as an example of faith.
    Joseph's God never went back on his word. The following scriptures illustrate this relationship and example.

    KJV Genesis 50:24-26
    24 And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die: and God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land unto the land which he sware to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.
    25 And Joseph took an oath of the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence.
    26 So Joseph died, being an hundred and ten years old: and they embalmed him, and he was put in a coffin in Egypt.

    KJV Exodus 12:40-41
    40 Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.
    41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.

    KJV Exodus 13:19 And Moses took the bones of Joseph with him: for he had straitly sworn the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you; and ye shall carry up my bones away hence with you.

    KJV Joshua 24:32 And the bones of Joseph, which the children of Israel brought up out of Egypt, buried they in Shechem, in a parcel of ground which Jacob bought of the sons of Hamor the father of Shechem for an hundred pieces of silver: and it became the inheritance of the children of Joseph.

    KJV Hebrews 11:22 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.





    Sister White's God
    Sister White's god was different. When people did as he instructed. Followed his instructions to the letter, he changed his mind and did not do as he said. Instead he gave new instructions. Your faith is diminished when you read how this god could not be depended on to do what he said he would do. The following from A.T. Jones letter to Sister White reveals this.


    Thus the whole case as your communication calling for the writing out of doubts and perplexities concerning your writings, as that case has been worked out, requires that we shall think of God things that are impossible.

    Now please let me say a word on Gods behalf: In your communication of March 30th, 1906, calling upon certain men by name to place upon paper the statement of the difficulties that perplexed their minds, you wrote the following words:

    "In the visions of the night ----- I was directed by the Lord to request them and any others who have perplexities and grievous things in their minds regarding the Testimonies that I have borne, to specify what their objections and criticisms are. The Lord will help me to answer these objections, and to make plain that which seems intricate .... Let it all be written out".

    After having received in answer to that call what some brethren had honestly written, you wrote under date of June 3rd, 1906 the following words:

    "I had a vision in which I was speaking before a large company, where many questions were asked concerning my work and writings. I was directed by a messenger from heaven not to take the burden of picking up and answering all the sayings and doubts that are being put into many minds."

    Both of these communications profess to be as from God. As representing God, therefore, they present the impossible situation as to God, in truth, that God asked certain men by name that they put in writing a statement of all their difficulties, etc., with the promise of an answer, and then, after He got the statement, refused to answer.

    I repeat, therefore, that as to God in truth, and to any mind that has ever received the revelation of God, that presents an impossible situation. For no person that knows God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent, can ever believe it possible of God that He would call men personally by name to Him, only that they should receive a slap in the face, or to be condemned.

    Didn’t the Lord know what responses could be made to that call? Didn't He know what response might be made? Yea, didn't He know what responses would be made? Accordingly didn't He know before these statements were written, that there was to be no answer? And He knowing all that, then can anybody expect sensible Christian men ever to believe of God that He would deliberately resort to an unworthy trick of mere child's play with sober, well-meaning, manly men, believers, in His own Son?



    Let us set these two statements of yours side by side:
    March 30, 1906

    "Recently in the visions of the night I stood in a large company of people .. I was directed by the Lord to request them and any others who have perplexities and grievous things in their minds regarding the Testimonies that I have borne, to specify what their objections and criticisms are. The Lord will help me to answer these objections, and to make plain that which seems intricate... Let it all be written out and submitted to those who desire to remove the Perplexities." June 3, 1906

    "I had a vision in which I was speaking before a large company where many questions were asked concerning my works and writings. I was directed by a messenger from heaven not to take the burden of picking up and answering all the sayings and doubts that are being put into many minds."

    Editor's Note: Notice the dates! Sister White's God goes back on his word in 63 days!




    Sister White, can you or anybody else believe it possible for any person who knows God or has respect for him to accept both these statements as coming from God? Can you or anybody else expect that Christian men will believe of God that He will act like that, or that He will treat men in any such way as that?
    Can you or anybody else expect that Christian men will accept any view of inspiration that involves the holy, just and good God in any such a slim and unworthy trick as that? Are we to believe of God that he is such an underling and so irresponsible of himself, that He can be pledged to a thing that utterly fails? That He can be pledged and under pledged? That when under pledge He can be whiff led about, as the workings out, of this case show, so that His pledge shall be worse than nothing? And all this in order to be loyal to the Testimonies?"

    Why, Sister White, to believe that and such as that, of God, the God of the Bible, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, would be nothing short of the utmost limit of irreverence.



    Circumstances may change, but the Word of the Lord does not change:
    Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever. (Psalm 119:152)

    The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. (1 Peter 1:24,25)

    Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
    (Hebrews 13:8)
  2. Inhisimage's Avatar
    Now lets look at Joseph's God as the God of the Hebrews, the God of Abraham, Isach and Jacob. The one who "so loved the world that he gave". Is not the God of the Hebrews our God also?
    Look how the Hebrews believed in him, look at the demonstration of faith of Jeremiah, when the Hebrews were being taken to Babylon serve the seventy years in captivity. See how he is so sure God will do what he says that he goes and buys land! He wants to reassure others, this God can be trusted



    Look at Daniel, he knows from the study of the prophet of this God that it is time for the Hebrews to leave Babylon and return




    Now compare this to what Sister White's god did on the matter of the reform dress
    "God would not have his people adopt the so-called reform dress. It is immodest apparel, wholly unfitted for the modest, humble followers of Christ. . . Those who feel called out to join the movement in favor of woman's rights and the so-called dress reform, might as well sever all connection with the third angel's message. . . Let them adopt this costume, and their influence is dead. . . They [the sisters] would destroy their influence and that of their husbands. They would become a byword and a derision. . . God would not have us take a course to lessen or destroy our influence with the world" (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. I., pp. 421, 422).

    Notice that she gives God as her authority here. "God would not have his people adopt the so-called reform dress." That was God's mind at that date
    This was in 1863, and was clear and emphatic. But one year later, September, 1864, Elder and Mrs. White spent three weeks at Dr. Jackson's Health Home at Dansville, N.Y. It was here her God changed his mind about the dress. Listen to Sister White's God now!



    "God would now have his people adopt the Reform Dress, not only to distinguish them from the world as his peculiar people, but because a reform in dress is essential to physical and mental health" (p. 525).
    Here, again, she gives God as her authority for the new departure in dress. This dress was to be adopted by sisters, not only for health, but to distinguish them from the world as God's peculiar people. She quotes Num. 15:38-41, where God directed the Israelites to wear a "ribbon of blue" on their garments to distinguish them from the other nations.

    Put the statements side by side and you have:







    1863 NO 1864 YES
    "God would not have his people adopt the so-called reform dress.
    (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. I., pp. 421, 422).
    "God would now have his people adopt the Reform Dress,
    (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. I., pp. 525).
    The God of the Hebrews had a name. He had a reputation He was different from other gods. He carried through on his promises. Read the scripture below. Its from Joshua and edited to include the name of the God of the Hebrews.

    Who is your God?

    KJV Joshua 24:1-31 (edited to include God's name)
    1 And Joshua gathered all the tribes of Israel to Shechem, and called for the elders of Israel, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers; and they presented themselves before God.
    2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith Yahweh, God (Elohim) of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.
    3 And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his seed, and gave him Isaac.
    4 And I gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau: and I gave unto Esau mount Seir, to possess it; but Jacob and his children went down into Egypt.
    5 I sent Moses also and Aaron, and I plagued Egypt, according to that which I did among them: and afterward I brought you out.
    6 And I brought your fathers out of Egypt: and ye came unto the sea; and the Egyptians pursued after your fathers with chariots and horsemen unto the red sea.
    7 And when they cried unto Yahweh, he put darkness between you and the Egyptians, and brought the sea upon them, and covered them; and your eyes have seen what I have done in Egypt: and ye dwelt in the wilderness a long season.
    8 And I brought you into the land of the Amorites, which dwelt on the other side Jordan; and they fought with you: and I gave them into your hand, that ye might possess their land; and I destroyed them from before you.
    9 Then Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, arose and warred against Israel, and sent and called Balaam the son of Beor to curse you:
    10 But I would not hearken unto Balaam; therefore he blessed you still: so I delivered you out of his hand.
    11 And ye went over Jordan, and came unto Jericho: and the men of Jericho fought against you, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; and I delivered them into your hand.
    12 And I sent the hornet before you, which drave them out from before you, even the two kings of the Amorites; but not with thy sword, nor with thy bow.
    13 And I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not, and ye dwell in them; of the vineyards and oliveyards which ye planted not do ye eat.
    14 Now therefore fear Yahweh, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye Yahweh.
    15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve Yahweh, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve Yahweh.
    16 And the people answered and said, God forbid that we should forsake Yahweh, to serve other gods;
    17 For Yahweh our God, he it is that brought us up and our fathers out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage, and which did those great signs in our sight, and preserved us in all the way wherein we went, and among all the people through whom we passed:
    18 And Yahweh drave out from before us all the people, even the Amorites which dwelt in the land: therefore will we also serve Yahweh; for he is our God.
    19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve Yahweh: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
    20 If ye forsake Yahweh, and serve strange gods, then he will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that he hath done you good.
    21 And the people said unto Joshua, Nay; but we will serve Yahweh.
    22 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you Yahweh, to serve him. And they said, We are witnesses.
    23 Now therefore put away, said he, the strange gods which are among you, and incline your heart unto Yahweh, God of Israel.
    24 And the people said unto Joshua, Yahweh our God will we serve, and his voice will we obey.
    25 So Joshua made a covenant with the people that day, and set them a statute and an ordinance in Shechem.
    26 And Joshua wrote these words in the book of the law of God, and took a great stone, and set it up there under an oak, that was by the sanctuary of Yahweh.
    27 And Joshua said unto all the people, Behold, this stone shall be a witness unto us; for it hath heard all the words of Yahweh which he spake unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto you, lest ye deny your God.
    28 So Joshua let the people depart, every man unto his inheritance.
    29 And it came to pass after these things, that Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Yahweh, died, being an hundred and ten years old.
    30 And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathserah, which is in mount Ephraim, on the north side of the hill of Gaash.
    31 And Israel served Yahweh all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that over lived Joshua, and which had known all the works of Yahweh, that he had done for Israel.

    Is Yahweh not the God who "so loved that he gave"? Do we not serve this God? Was it a different god who would tell Sister White one thing and then another? Who do we worship?
  3. David Merrill's Avatar
    I am not familiar with this dress dispute introduced by Sister White.

    My tendency is to think of monotheism mathematically. That is to say there is only One God. Distractions that might make one feel there are more than one God are illusions. This brings me into a state of forgiveness and unity, at least.
  4. Inhisimage's Avatar
    Yes , There is one ALMIGHTY God.
    There are lessor gods, imposters masquerading as God, deceiving, if it were possible, the very elect. Satan Chief among them.
    The words of Yehoshau, By their fruits, shall ye know them.
    Would not any god promising an answer, as in the quotes from A.T. Jones letter above, and then failing to answer be a "lesser god" that in reality is no god at all, except in the minds of the deceived?
  5. Inhisimage's Avatar
    Is Tree Farmer dead?
  6. David Merrill's Avatar
    My! I certainly hope not.