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Was Pharaoh the victim of supernatural mind-control?

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Exodus 7:1-5
“YHWH said to Moshe:
See, I will make you as a god for Pharaoh,
and Aharon your brother will be your prophet.
You are to speak all that I command you,
And Aharon your brother is to speak to Pharaoh
so that he may send free the Children of Israel from his land.
But I,
I will harden Pharaoh’s heart,
I will make my signs and my portents many in the land of Egypt:
Pharaoh will not hearken to you,
so I will set my hand against Egypt,
and I will bring out my forces,
my people, the Children of Israel,
from the land of Egypt, with great (acts of) judgment;
the Egyptians will know that I am YHWH,
when I stretch out my hand over Egypt and bring the Children of
Israel out from their midst.”

Exodus 7:8-14
“YHWH said to Moshe and to Aharon, saying:
When Pharaoh speaks to you, saying: Give, you, a portent,
then say to Aharon:
Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh: Let it become
a serpent.
Moshe and Aharon came to Pharaoh,
they did thus, as YHWH had commanded,
Aharon threw down his staff before Pharaoh and before his
servants, and it became a serpent.
Pharaoh too called for the wise men and for the sorcerers,
that they too, the magicians of Egypt, should do thus with their
occult-arts,
they threw down, each-man, his staff, and these became serpents.
But Aharon’s staff swallowed up their staffs.
Yet Pharaoh’s heart remained strong-willed, and he did not
hearken to them,
as YHWH had spoken.
YHWH said to Moshe:
Pharaoh’s heart is heavy-with-stubbornness—he refuses to send
the people free.”
(from: The Schocken Bible: Volume 1, literal translation by Everett Fox)

Some have argued that Pharaoh had no choice in the way he dealt with his Hebrew slaves, because God “hardened his heart” and thereby directly intervened in the sequence of events which brought about the ten plagues in Egypt, led to the demise of Pharaoh and his chariot host, and caused the Exodus of the children of Israel.
The question really is: does God cause people to make evil decisions?
Let the scriptures answer:

“And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear [the guilty]; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth [generation].”
Exodus 34:6-7

“For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.”
Jeremiah 29:11-12 (KJV)

“The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, [saying], Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.”
Jeremiah 31:3

“Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?”
Ezekiel 33:11

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:9

“Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.”
James 5:11

There are many more verses which express that God does not want men and women, whom He formed in His image, to do wickedly.
He does however permit men and women to exercise free choice in their lives, and that includes letting them exhibit evil traits of character if they so choose.

It appears that Pharaoh was a hard-hearted idolatrous slave driver, who worshipped the god of this world and trusted in the power of sorcery. He did not seek the God of Heaven nor was he interested in Him.
“And Pharaoh said, Who [is] the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go.”
Exodus 5:2

God, who sets up kings and disposes of them at His will, permitted this Pharaoh to reign in Egypt at this time, in order to work out His plans in this heathen nation.
In order to harden Pharaoh’s heart God had to do exactly nothing, because Pharaoh’s heart was already very hard and stubborn.
At the time of the Exodus God chose to leave Pharaoh to his own devices without any divine interference or pleading, and no subduing or softening influence of the Holy Spirit.
Therefore, Pharaoh continued in his natural course, doing what came natural to his stubborn, evil and hard heart.
I believe that by saying He hardened Pharaoh’s heart, God took full responsibility for this course of non-action on His part.

This is in contrast to how He dealt with the Egyptian populace as a whole.
During the plague of hail the Egyptians were forewarned:
“Whoever had awe for the word of YHWH among Pharaoh’s
servants had his servants and his livestock flee into the houses,
but whoever did not pay any mind to the word of YHWH left his
servants and his livestock out in the field.”
Exodus 9:20-21 (Schocken Bible, Everett Fox)
It appears that Pharaoh was among those who did not have awe for the word of God.

God intervened among the Egyptians again at Exodus 11:
“Pray speak in the ears of the people:
They shall ask, each man of his neighbor, each woman of her
neighbor, objects of silver and objects of gold.
And YHWH gave the people favor in the eyes of Egypt,
while the man Moshe was (considered) exceedingly great in the
land of Egypt,
in the eyes of Pharaoh’s servants and in the eyes of the people.”
Exodus 11:2-3 (Schocken Bible)

I believe that Pharaoh, like all other men, had many opportunities to repent and to turn away from his sinful course, even during the ordeal of the plagues.
Had he repented of his sins and had he asked God for forgiveness and mercy he could have obtained it at any time, thereby working out his own salvation and saving himself and his people from some of the terrible consequences of the plagues.
But he did not find it in his heart to do so, especially after being left completely to his own devices and to the control of the god whom he worshiped.

The Bible mentions another instance where God will withdraw His beneficial influence from men and women and leave them to their own devices, without any interference from the Holy Spirit.
Interestingly this occurs at the time of the second Exodus, at the second coming of Christ, of which the first Exodus was a type.
“And he saith unto me, seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.”
Revelation 22:10-12

Possibly the worst human fate is to grieve away the Holy Spirit until He does not plead with us anymore and leaves us to pursue our own natural course.
Left to our own devices we will pursue a sinful course which will lead us to eternal death.
“For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 6:23

See also Matthew 12, Luke 12, and Ephesians 4 regarding the influence of the Holy Spirit and how this relates to salvation and redemption.

My reading of the scriptures tells me that Pharaoh died while engaged in active opposition to his Creator.
I do not know whether or not Pharaoh still has a chance of salvation. To my knowledge, no one has died the second death yet, however Hebrews 9:27 points out that men die once and after that comes the judgment. Only God knows the details of this.
Praise God!

Updated 03-28-11 at 01:10 AM by Treefarmer

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  1. Michael Joseph's Avatar
    Yehoshua went back to preach to the spirits held in prison - I imagine Pharoah being on smart cookie listened - as I think Esau did too. But that is just my speculation...

    shalom,
    mj
  2. Treefarmer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph
    Yehoshua went back to preach to the spirits held in prison - I imagine Pharoah being on smart cookie listened - as I think Esau did too. But that is just my speculation...

    shalom,
    mj
    Michael Joseph, I'm not sure I'm following your meaning on this.
    If you are referring to 1 Peter 3:19, then I don't think Pharaoh would have been involved with that preaching.
    For an explanation of where I'm coming from with this, please see my next blog entry.

    Thank you for commenting; I appreciate the dialogue.
  3. David Merrill's Avatar
    This is a topic worth pondering. I have always felt that Pharaoh was dealt a bad lot, with God heardening his heart like that. So I attribute it to Mercy. God intended for certain events to happen and that required a villian - Pharaoh. So God created a villian, saving Pharoah. Pharoah, the man, was not culpable for his decisions in that time.
  4. Michael Joseph's Avatar
    In order for the righteous to be tried there must be some who would be instruments of Yehovah who would do the trying. The Negative Side of Election. Thus it is not left to man to judge other men. For only Yehovah can know.

    another dimension

    Jeremiah being named and foreknew of Yehovah - Whom Yehovah launched forth. [1st Age]


    Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    [If you have seen the Son (spiritual eyes) you have seen the Father (God is Spirit)]

    Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
  5. Treefarmer's Avatar
    I heard a man say yesterday that the same sun shines on all, but it hardens the clay and melts the wax.

    David, I'm sure that Pharaoh was responsible for all his actions at all times during his life, the same as every one else.
    Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 says "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.
    For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil."

    The same God lets His light shine on all His children and some of them it hardens, but others it melts.
    Jesus said:
    "It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe [unto him], through whom they come!
    It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. "
    Luke 17:1-2

    Interestingly, Pharaoh perished after casting himself into the sea, thinking it would be dry land for him, as it had been for the children of Israel.

    The predestination of which Paul speaks in Romans 8:29-30 is not arbitrarily assigned by God.
    It is the result of a conscious decision, which every man is free to make or not make in his life time, to be led by the Spirit of God.
    Paul describes the whole process in Romans 7 and 8, whereby a man may come to be joint-heir with Christ.

    I don't believe that Pharaoh was ready to make the sacrifice which is involved in this process.
    Pharaoh was like the clay that hardens under the sun light. He trusted in the god of this world and preferred to live in the flesh.
    "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
    For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace. "
    Romans 8:5-6

    I do not know if there is a second chance of salvation.
    Even though there may well be one (otherwise, why resurrect the wicked as indicated in Revelation 20), I believe it is unwise to rely on it.
    In the parable, the prodigal son was saved in the end, but to the loyal son the father said "Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. " Luke 15:31
    The prodigal son had squandered his inheritance.

    Bright blessings
    Updated 03-28-11 at 01:13 AM by Treefarmer
  6. Michael Joseph's Avatar
    The Pillars of Yehovah - Elect shall stand in Yehovah's House and Minister upon Yehoshuah they shall go out and teach the Levites and the Levites shall teach the poeple and the waters [remember the rich man in prison] shall flow out from under the throne and; what's this: the kings and queens of the ethnos [nations] shall come to New Jerusalem and render their glory unto Yehovah.

    And yet after truth is taught and babel dispelled there will still be some who will go the way of Cain. God hardened Pharoah's heart. I do not recall Pharoah asking for his heart [mind] to be made up for him. Therefore God interfered with a man's life - that is the opposite of free will or choice.


    That parable has three levels:

    1. Mom and dad with children can appreciate this parable - i know i can.
    2. Elder Son = Yehudah; Prodigal Son = Ten Tribes [Yisra'el]; Yehudah keeps Torah; Yisra'el has no clue what Torah is
    3. Elder Son = Elect - preordained; prejustified; chosen before the foundations of this Age [flesh - 2nd]; Younger Son = Free Will Son - the reason we are in this Age - a Test.

    The Elect Son or Daughter is in no need of a teacher - but are here in this age to "help" his brother and sisters. Thus the Elect Son can be with thick skin. The Great Book of Zachariah speaks of both 1st and 2nd advents of Yehoshuah. There was one who had to betray the Son of Man. Think about that for a moment before we go rushing to judge Judas.

    The Elect enter the Vineyard in the last hour - the Remnant are in each generation. Yet at the end of the day, each gets paid the same amount. It is just that some are with specific duty and they know it and others with free will just pass thru - hopefully coming to know the Ever Living and his Redeemer Yehoshuah. The Elect are the Ships of Chittim [bruisers] that plague fake Jesus.


    The predestination Paul was writing about is not subject to anything of this Flesh Age. It has to do with the Works of the First Earth/Heaven Age. If you desire to do a study on Election and the Ages we can do that. In fact I plan on it in the Religious section. Plus I hope to do an in depth analysis of the Parable of the Fig Tree - good fig and bad fig.

    shalom,
    mj
  7. David Merrill's Avatar
    Your interpretation of free will makes sense Treefarmer;


    On the initial reading however, one is stunned how easily Pharaoh forgets about the power of Abraham's God.
  8. Treefarmer's Avatar
    Yes, stunning indeed.
    But Pharaoh was no different from the kings and presidents in our age, who display the same stunning disregard for the power of the God of Abraham.
    Today's leaders have even less of an excuse than did Pharaoh, because they have the warnings and admonitions of the scriptures to remind them of God's power.
    And yet, they act just like Pharaoh did, trusting in their occult-arts and not wanting to know YHWH.

    Michael Joseph, it would be interesting if you posted a study on what you call the Elect.
    I have often wondered what you mean by "previous age", "Flesh Age" etc.
    At times I've wondered if we are even reading the same scriptures, because I cannot figure out what you are talking about half the time.

    Thank you all for exploring the scriptures with me
  9. Michael Joseph's Avatar
    i would be very pleased to do this if only just for you. We are gonna take a trip thru the Scripture and I will put it in PDF format so that you can read and re-read. Many wrestle with Scripture because they cannot see the Ages. I will put together a Study on the Elect as well. And if I can the Parable of the Fig Tree. Yehoshuah said of that Parable LEARN IT.

    Thank you
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  11. Michael Joseph's Avatar
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