DL was NOT provided or used as ID

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Originally Posted by salsero

As stated in Senate Doc #43, page 9, second paragraph, April 1933: “The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called “ownership” is only by virtue of Government, ie, law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State.”

If you believe you own that property you refer to as a Name, please provide evidence of such ownership. Saying I AM JOHN DOE in YOUR COURT or in public does not make that Name your property. If property is owned/held by legal title, then you would be able to produce the original title to the property Name AS OWNER. If you can not, and all you can obtain is a "certified copy", signed by an authorized official who has some fictional title, it appears to me that the owner or legal title holder sure does not want you to have it. I wonder why?????

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The catholic encyclopedia will tell you why.

And there you go…..

U.S. Code › Title 28 › Part I › Chapter 21 › § 453
28 U.S. Code § 453 - Oaths of justices and judges
Current through Pub. L. 114-19. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

• US Code
• Notes

Each justice or judge of the United States shall take the following oath or affirmation before performing the duties of his office: “I, XXX XXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as XXX under the Constitution and laws of the United States.

"So help me God.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/453

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Originally Posted by AllanNR

I got pulled over yesterday for speeding. Officer approached and waited while I gathered my documents.

... ... ...and walks back to run me through the system.

question: can I keep driving with an expired licence and just keep presenting it as proof of competence?

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#1 - What documents? Could you provide a copy?

#2 - Runs what through the system? Your true name (First - Middle), name on documents?

#3 - Can you keep driving with an expired license? - Absolutely. Will the outcome always be the same as you experienced? It's possible but not likely across the board although you may have solid standing with your paperwork with certain agencies such as the one you ran in to. They may have been fibbing about the system being down or they weren't fibbing (most likely as I actually hear "system is down" on occasion) and used that as an excuse to let you go...not running your true name through if in fact that is what you provided.

* I state these things having much experienced with stops.

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Originally Posted by EZrhythm

#1 - What documents? Could you provide a copy?

#2 - Runs what through the system? Your true name (First - Middle), name on documents?

#3 - Can you keep driving with an expired license? - Absolutely. Will the outcome always be the same as you experienced? It's possible but not likely across the board although you may have solid standing with your paperwork with certain agencies such as the one you ran in to. They may have been fibbing about the system being down or they weren't fibbing (most likely as I actually hear "system is down" on occasion) and used that as an excuse to let you go...not running your true name through if in fact that is what you provided.

* I state these things having much experienced with stops.

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DL, registration, insurance and I redeem LM

Holding the expired DL is Travelling Dead as with respect to persons all are dead in law if the paper or D.L. is? or has? expired? only my competency is permitted or left to drive or travel whats the a valid safety issue are we still competent without respect to persons what validation do i need to renew my true name with myself without respect for persons my name appears on DL or it does,nt if every thing expires the driving test is void of a competent identification

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Originally Posted by EZrhythm

#1 - What documents? Could you provide a copy?

#2 - Runs what through the system? Your true name (First - Middle), name on documents?

#3 - Can you keep driving with an expired license? - Absolutely. Will the outcome always be the same as you experienced? It's possible but not likely across the board although you may have solid standing with your paperwork with certain agencies such as the one you ran in to. They may have been fibbing about the system being down or they weren't fibbing (most likely as I actually hear "system is down" on occasion) and used that as an excuse to let you go...not running your true name through if in fact that is what you provided.

* I state these things having much experienced with stops.

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AFAIK you can continue "driving" if you surrender your license. If you have reservations concerning your license you can make them known to the DMV or whatever it is otherwise they might regard you to be fully agreeable to "the contract". I traveled with a motorist competency card, once got bothered for no reason by a bored cop, two more showed up and a duty officer (many stripes) he told them to stop bothering me and told the one to give me an escort because I wasn't sure where a certain location was. Didn't provide any SSN or "State" ID. Also, as remains true to this day, wasn't a resident of that State at the time or of any of the 50 States.

Somebody out there thinks they own you.

Wouldn’t you like to have their name, address and phone number?

From the pdf......

“He said, ‘who owns this car?’ And I piped up and said, ‘the State,’ and he said, ‘just a minute,’ and he walked back to his car and he was there quite a long time. I trust he was radioing in to headquarters and when he came back he simply said to my wife, ‘carry on, ma’am.’

[Richard] I was recently drafted into the den of inequity through a little citation and with a very learned friend of mine we put together a significant amount of documents and basically exploded their whole day.

But when I want in there, I went in with a transcript or a dialogue or a writing and basically when the judge called my name, I said, ‘let the record so show that I am Richard Lee, an American, sovereign man, one of the preamble people living on the land evidenced by the annexed documents in the contract record.

Let the record so show that I have accepted the judge’s oath of office as a private binding contract between you and me. This is a private binding contract by me to you to uphold my rights under the common law separated from the statutory law.’ And he just kind of drove right on forward from there and I had about six or eight of these little paragraphs all put together and every time he asked me a question I just went right into the next one and right into the next one. And on the court notes all he wrote on there was ‘defendant led [read?] contract law rights,’ that’s all he said.

[Eric] It doesn’t make any difference what they say; as soon as they start asking me a question my next response is going to be, ‘just a minute, I’m sorry, your honor, but just in the fact that you’ve asked me a question that constitutes an acknowledgement that you don’t have jurisdiction over me because jurisdiction isn’t something that you need to establish as of this minute.

This cop …or whatever it might have been, this cop gave me a ticket six weeks ago or two weeks ago or whenever and you need to establish jurisdiction over me as of the time the cop gave me the ticket.

So where is your proof going back to that day? And additionally, your honor, you are of the judicial branch.

If the executive branch, the police officer and the prosecutor—they’re both in the executive branch—they are the ones who are claiming that the state has jurisdiction over me or the government has jurisdiction over me—you are supposedly a neutral party although you state receiving a paycheck from the same treasury so I don’t know how you can possibly purport to be neutral and whenever you start asking me questions any purported neutrality is totally destroyed because now you are acting on behalf of the executive branch.

So you have violated your own separation of powers doctrine and as soon as you start asking me questions you have acknowledged that you don’t have jurisdiction.

I don’t have to answer to any of your questions. You’ve got to already have the answers to those questions in the file of the District Attorney or the prosecutor. And how is it that you’re asking me questions? You’re the wrong guy.

It should be the prosecutor who’s asking me these questions but, obviously, you don’t think the prosecutor is competent or you’d allow him to ask the questions instead of you. I would never answer their questions.

You’re going to hold me in contempt of court? Where’s your authority to do that?

Besides, understand something, your honor, I want to apologize because I consider myself to be a respectable and a courteous man and I would never, ever say anything to anyone where I would be intentionally offensive and if I’ve said anything that personally offended you I sincerely apologize and I want you to understand something, I have no contempt whatsoever for this court. I have a great deal of respect.

I takes a man with a lot of character to sit on that bench up there—I didn’t say good or bad—a lot of character to sit on that bench up there and do the job that you’re doing and I commend you for that. I wouldn’t want to have your job. You’re going to stand up every day and take money from people who you know can’t afford to pay it. So I don’t have any contempt for this court, but that doesn’t mean that you have any jurisdiction over me.

You’ve got to prove that I volunteered into your jurisdiction which you can’t do and for you to claim that I’m being in contempt of you because I am calling you on that issue is absolutely asinine and you know it.

That’s what I would tell him.”

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As they say if your going to play a old record your stylist has to be sharp. Court is just venue a person is just a trust.Finger Prints are they a living Man,s or his created persona the Decedent's Trust is indemnity and identified salvage yet dead in law are ESTATE TRUSTS PERSONS are public trade what,s just when it comes to IDENTITY its just you and not me? If a private person is afforded the proper court venue his true identity is common knowledge his Name will be styled John Henry; Doe if [DOE JOHN HENRY] [JOHN HENRY DOE] [John H Doe] [John Henry DOE] and finally his true Name John Henry ;or JOHN HENRY; under governments authority we are all JUST DOING OUR JOBS who is it realy thats doing a poor job with RESPECT for persons that verbatim minus all the perry [masonic] mason cases without any instrument but a Christ complex a Man was never found guilty in JUST any PERSONS COURT the solution for any living Man is to find JUST that a 2nd and 3rd living Man or Woman acting like one [Joking ladies] So one gets herd not herded or driven to drive without a TITLE or give a Man,s personal will lent to a license to be traded on bonds NAMED and CHARGED TO SUIT A ORDER STUCK WITH A GOVERNMENT BILL foot print finger print FINE PRINT Its private like not for profit like Christ the name is just words find one thats true and cant hide behind a trust.empty loft or one for rent fill it with the truth and its rent free.air it out if it stinks a rock is what opens the window the broken record club what,s between shores .

CLIENT NAME
CLIENT MASTER NUMBER LICENSE ISSUE DATE CLASS EXPIRY DATE
DD MM YY DD MM YY
RESIDENCE ADDRESS MAILING ADDRESS (If different than residence)
STREET ADDRESS AND NAME, APT. NO. STREET NUMBER AND NAME, P.O. BOX, R.R. NO., APT. NO.
CITY, TOWN OR VILLAGE POSTAL CODE CITY, TOWN OR VILLAGE POSTAL CODE
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I am surrendering this driver’s licence because:I WISH TO TRAVEL UNDER FULL LIABILITY AND I
X?X I do not want to comply with a demand made by the Registrar of Motor Vehicles. If I wish to resume driving I will
first comply with any demand made by the Registrar in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act. I understand that
my driver’s license will be suspended under Section 280(4) of the Motor Vehicle Act (“fail to comply”). If the license
is surrendered prior to the required date the reinstatement fee may be waived.
? I am not operating a motor vehicle at this time for the following medical or physical reason:
____________ __________________________________________________ __________________________
__________________________________________________ _________________________________________
I understand that my driver’s license status may be changed to unlicensed and if I wish to resume driving I will
comply with any demand made by the Registrar in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act.
? I have been advised to do so by a physician.
? the above noted client is unfit to drive due to: __________________________________________________ _
Contact Information:
Name: ____________________________________ Phone Number:___________________________
Relationship to Client:________________________ Date (D/M/Y):_____________________________
(If 3rd party)
Signature: _____________________________________
FOR INTERNAL USE ONLY - To be completed by RMV CSR
Driver’s License surrendered at (Location): ______________________ Date (D/M/Y): ____________________________
Accepted by (User Name) IT SEEMS NO ONES FORCING A LICENSE ON YOU ARE YOU FORCING A Claim I DON,T NEED ONE ON THEM .

Appointing the DIRECTOR or REGISTRAR at the office of DMV to settle claims against the license and or its holder the driver has no fiduciary level is the babies diaper full who owns the diaper cant leave a mess why do they reinstate a dia per to bond and insure future movements who loves the mess cleans the mess. allodial thanks for dropping Fiduciary Names the babyshitters club I surrender or I appoint Alodi shuffle

Beat a traffic ticket today. http://s4.postimg.org/xl00sh4b1/20150722.jpg
Told the Clerk magistrate I was there by Restricted Appearance, I was True Name but the citation was issued to LEGAL NAME and was about to tell them how I identified to LEO at roadside, "I'm showing this DL for competency to drive not for ID," but before I could get it out the police officer started muttering "not responsible." The clerk looks at him like "Not responsible?" LEO: "Not responsible."

That was easy.