COLB and BC as a DEED to One's Body = Land

I imagine this thread will invoke many opinions and comments and that is what I am after. I seek truth above all else and so I offer this debate as perhaps one of the most important steps to be taken in order to secure one's inherent right to highest and indefeasible title to the property of the land (flesh-body-dust) that one's spirit inhabits while on earth.

It has been opined and offered by some that the COLB (Certificate of Live Birth) and BC (Birth Certificate) is a grant DEED of property (land) rights to the fleshly body (dust) our eternal soul and spirit calls "home" (our temple). The NAME of this "landed estate" is called FIRST MIDDLE LAST (True Name + SURNAME). What apparantly happened is that our daddies (natural fathers) granted us a landed estate of land and property when we were born into this world. This DEED to the property is known as the COLB or BC. It was registered with the STATE of "birth" and held in ward until such time that the STATE determined either incompetence or a willigness to allow the STATE to control this estate as an abandoned claim or an intentional GRANT to the STATE for safekeeping and guardianship. After seven years of "slience" the living being is considered "Lost at Sea" and the "vessel" known as FIRST MIDDLE LAST becomes a ward of the STATE.

Our lack of acknowledgement and acceptance of this DEED keeps the estate in limbo; defective and ripe for liens and foreign claims. The STATE will "collect" and harness as much energy and sweat equity that the unwitting and incompetent "lost soul" will offer through adhesion contracts and express trust agreements which are conditioned into the soul's mind as normative practice in this day and age.

In order to break this chain of voluntary enslavement, we must EXECUTE the DEED by lawful acceptance and acknowledgement; forming the competent and lawful record around this event. We must accept the original grant from our natural fathers as grantees to the land (body) created by mommy and daddy. This means recording the acceptance and acknowledgement of the DEEDs (COLB and BC) at the county level (where the land now exists) and notify all relevent parties that the presumed "Lost at SEA" soul is in fact ALIVE and well and ready to rightfully accept the grant and claim the dominion and inheritance bestowed upon him or her by and through the Almighty Creator and Ultimate OWNER of ALL things - Yehovah Elohim.

It is the precise process of this action to be taken which still evades me somewhat. I am trying to figure out the proper and lawful method and mechanism to perform this acknowledgement and declaration in order to leave NO DOUBT as to the veracity, and Divine foundation, of this truth.


Again, I offer this as an opportunity of discussion and debate; relying on the experience, intelligence and the passion for the truth above all else of the members of this forum.

All comments and opinions are encouraged and welcome.

I would submit that the BC/COLB is defective from the start, for this reason: The Mother lists her Maiden name, there is no mention on the BC/COLB itself as to the lawful marriage status of the listed Mother and Father. The child is therefore, considered legally a bastard child and automatically a ward of the state from week one. Of course, it would be a simple fix had the mother and father known the legal ramifications for not clearly making a claim on the trust in the 1st 7 years and making sure their status as married at the time of nativity was noticed and recorded.

It is my personal belief (and I could be wrong) that the ALL CAPS name and the Date of birth could be the Mark of the Beast. Having not used the trust information for going on 3 years now, I can tell you, it is very limiting on what can be bought and sold without providing your earthly mark (legal name, dob, ssn, citizenship, etc. travel out their countries, et al).

The days are not long till not having one or not receiving their mark might stop any "legal/permitted" commerce, no verichip (which will only contain relevant name, DOB, place of birth, citizenship, ssn anyway).

On a deeper Spiritual level, how does one rectify the fact we are to be "born again" of water and the Spirit and then go about our lives with the same old name and DOB...? Should I start claiming my new born again date as my DOB? It would be the truthful answer, right?

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Originally Posted by martin earl

I would submit that the BC/COLB is defective from the start, for this reason: The Mother lists her Maiden name, there is no mention on the BC/COLB itself as to the lawful marriage status of the listed Mother and Father. The child is therefore, considered legally a bastard child and automatically a ward of the state from week one. Of course, it would be a simple fix had the mother and father known the legal ramifications for not clearly making a claim on the trust in the 1st 7 years and making sure their status as married at the time of nativity was noticed and recorded.

It is my personal belief (and I could be wrong) that the ALL CAPS name and the Date of birth could be the Mark of the Beast. Having not used the trust information for going on 3 years now, I can tell you, it is very limiting on what can be bought and sold without providing your earthly mark (legal name, dob, ssn, citizenship, etc. travel out their countries, et al).

The days are not long till not having one or not receiving their mark might stop any "legal/permitted" commerce, no verichip (which will only contain relevant name, DOB, place of birth, citizenship, ssn anyway).

On a deeper Spiritual level, how does one rectify the fact we are to be "born again" of water and the Spirit and then go about our lives with the same old name and DOB...? Should I start claiming my new born again date as my DOB? It would be the truthful answer, right?

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Become affiliated by birthright as heir apparent, into the original estate of True Name, Land and lawful money (outside the scope of war time fiat/theater of war). [Adopt the bastard issue.] Become the peaceful inhabitant. In a sense you will rely on a quiet title that did not remain so quiet (1776). Note the middle of Page 2, especially the paragraph mentioning Matthew THORNTON.

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation1.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation2.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation3.jpg

Note also my signature includes an expression that I am a statesman - the Great Seal of Authority - followed by my family's name VAN PELT. Then realize from the opening post that this is a title. (VAN PELT is closely sounded to Ben Palte which according to Strong's means Son of the Patron [Patroon], which is quite true.] The signors of the Declaration used full legal names in that same form. They were not men, albeit they were indeed men, but they signed wet ink on the parchment as persons - the responsible fiduciaries (trustees) of their own estates; life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Many of them lost that gamble in one or more of those three forms during the Revolutionary War that followed.

Here is another example that might make it a bit clearer.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/739...inalreturn.jpg

Processing that Notice of Lien ($20M) had to be done properly or I would have been in trouble on a class 5 felony of forgery because I was using the Great Seal on a UCC Form financial instrument. Essentially I was endorsing the instrument for the comptroller at the state Treasury and asking for the validation of that endorsement by the secretary of state. Look at the warning in ALL CAPS on the second or third Rejection.

Click Here.

I am okay though. I had to use the SoS testimony to form my cause. If I had tried to explain it to them instead I would more likely be in jail than sitting on a valid $20M lien. Notice the bleed-through seal (endorsements are traditionally on the backside of the instrument) and then go back and read the note it obscures, I wrote at the bottom. What the SoS did was send me a fellows approved articles of incorporation that were related to me by only one thing - venue! My state (estate) is the Colorado Republic. I forwarded the articles to Mr. DREW as trustee of the Resulting Trust, since the SoS was obviously in breach of the original trust with Mr. DREW by sending his document to me instead of him. To follow this line of reasoning notice the Agent Address and then notice the Notice on Page 2. By approving the Articles the SoS was acknowledging our venue of a territorial republic formed out of the survey on the Approbation I show you above.

Imagine the State as your father parens patriae. - At least until you are willing to stand up to your father and face your new kingdom. Notice the author's name.



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. In other words, be competent and quit defaulting into admiralty.

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How many more ways must you prove that you can before one of you will be the first to walk on land.

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Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph

I imagine this thread will invoke many opinions and comments and that is what I am after. I seek truth above all else and so I offer this debate as perhaps one of the most important steps to be taken in order to secure one's inherent right to highest and indefeasible title to the property of the land (flesh-body-dust) that one's spirit inhabits while on earth.

It has been opined and offered by some that the COLB (Certificate of Live Birth) and BC (Birth Certificate) is a grant DEED of property (land) rights to the fleshly body (dust) our eternal soul and spirit calls "home" (our temple). The NAME of this "landed estate" is called FIRST MIDDLE LAST (True Name + SURNAME). What apparantly happened is that our daddies (natural fathers) granted us a landed estate of land and property when we were born into this world. This DEED to the property is known as the COLB or BC. It was registered with the STATE of "birth" and held in ward until such time that the STATE determined either incompetence or a willigness to allow the STATE to control this estate as an abandoned claim or an intentional GRANT to the STATE for safekeeping and guardianship. After seven years of "slience" the living being is considered "Lost at Sea" and the "vessel" known as FIRST MIDDLE LAST becomes a ward of the STATE.

Our lack of acknowledgement and acceptance of this DEED keeps the estate in limbo; defective and ripe for liens and foreign claims. The STATE will "collect" and harness as much energy and sweat equity that the unwitting and incompetent "lost soul" will offer through adhesion contracts and express trust agreements which are conditioned into the soul's mind as normative practice in this day and age.

In order to break this chain of voluntary enslavement, we must EXECUTE the DEED by lawful acceptance and acknowledgement; forming the competent and lawful record around this event. We must accept the original grant from our natural fathers as grantees to the land (body) created by mommy and daddy. This means recording the acceptance and acknowledgement of the DEEDs (COLB and BC) at the county level (where the land now exists) and notify all relevent parties that the presumed "Lost at SEA" soul is in fact ALIVE and well and ready to rightfully accept the grant and claim the dominion and inheritance bestowed upon him or her by and through the Almighty Creator and Ultimate OWNER of ALL things - Yehovah Elohim.

It is the precise process of this action to be taken which still evades me somewhat. I am trying to figure out the proper and lawful method and mechanism to perform this acknowledgement and declaration in order to leave NO DOUBT as to the veracity, and Divine foundation, of this truth.


Again, I offer this as an opportunity of discussion and debate; relying on the experience, intelligence and the passion for the truth above all else of the members of this forum.

All comments and opinions are encouraged and welcome.

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I am working on this too... see supporting post here.

I believe a treatment of certificates is in order here.

A Treatise on the Law of Ceritficates

It appears from cursory viewing:

Certificates are creatures born from statutes.
Certificates express something as being done or completed.

Deeds are of the class contracts under seal. I'm not sure a certificate could be classed as a contract. I'd guess I'd need a treatise on the law of evidence.

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Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph

I imagine this thread will invoke many opinions and comments and that is what I am after. I seek truth above all else and so I offer this debate as perhaps one of the most important steps to be taken in order to secure one's inherent right to highest and indefeasible title to the property of the land (flesh-body-dust) that one's spirit inhabits while on earth.

It has been opined and offered by some that the COLB (Certificate of Live Birth) and BC (Birth Certificate) is a grant DEED of property (land) rights to the fleshly body (dust) our eternal soul and spirit calls "home" (our temple). The NAME of this "landed estate" is called FIRST MIDDLE LAST (True Name + SURNAME). What apparantly happened is that our daddies (natural fathers) granted us a landed estate of land and property when we were born into this world. This DEED to the property is known as the COLB or BC. It was registered with the STATE of "birth" and held in ward until such time that the STATE determined either incompetence or a willigness to allow the STATE to control this estate as an abandoned claim or an intentional GRANT to the STATE for safekeeping and guardianship. After seven years of "slience" the living being is considered "Lost at Sea" and the "vessel" known as FIRST MIDDLE LAST becomes a ward of the STATE.

Our lack of acknowledgement and acceptance of this DEED keeps the estate in limbo; defective and ripe for liens and foreign claims. The STATE will "collect" and harness as much energy and sweat equity that the unwitting and incompetent "lost soul" will offer through adhesion contracts and express trust agreements which are conditioned into the soul's mind as normative practice in this day and age.

In order to break this chain of voluntary enslavement, we must EXECUTE the DEED by lawful acceptance and acknowledgement; forming the competent and lawful record around this event. We must accept the original grant from our natural fathers as grantees to the land (body) created by mommy and daddy. This means recording the acceptance and acknowledgement of the DEEDs (COLB and BC) at the county level (where the land now exists) and notify all relevent parties that the presumed "Lost at SEA" soul is in fact ALIVE and well and ready to rightfully accept the grant and claim the dominion and inheritance bestowed upon him or her by and through the Almighty Creator and Ultimate OWNER of ALL things - Yehovah Elohim.

It is the precise process of this action to be taken which still evades me somewhat. I am trying to figure out the proper and lawful method and mechanism to perform this acknowledgement and declaration in order to leave NO DOUBT as to the veracity, and Divine foundation, of this truth.


Again, I offer this as an opportunity of discussion and debate; relying on the experience, intelligence and the passion for the truth above all else of the members of this forum.

All comments and opinions are encouraged and welcome.

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For one to comprehend what is going on Within a DEED one must know Standing, Status, What is being Granted, and what can be received as Grantee. The capacity of a Grantee and the nature of the Trust Law and Estate wherein the Grant is conveyed, sold or transferred.

SEIGNIOR or SEIGNEUR. Among the feudists, this name signified lord of the fee. F. N. B. 23. The most extended signification of this word includes not only a lord or peer of parliament, but is applied to the owner or proprietor of a thing; hence, the owner of a hawk, and the master of a fishing vessel, is called a seigneur. 37 Edw. Ill. c. 19; Barr. on the Stat. 258.

SEIGNIORY, Eng. law. The rights of a lord as such, in lands. Swinb. 174.

SEISIN, estates. The possession of an estate of freebold. 8 N. H. Rep. 57; 3 Hamm. 220; 8 Litt. 134; 4 Mass. 408. Seisin was used in contradistinction to that precarious kind of possession by which tenants in villenage held their lands, which was considered to be the possession of their lords in, whom the freehold continued.


5. The actual seisin of an estate may be lost by the forcible entry of a stranger who thereby ousts or dispossesses the owner this act is called a disseisin. (q. v.)


VILLEINAGE. the tenure by which a villein held land and tenements from a lord.

Comment by MJ: Typically the Tenure was in Husbandry [farming], knights service, or ecclessia.

VILLEIN, Engl. law. A species of slave during the feudal times.'

2. The feudal villein of the lowest order was unprotected as to property, and subjected to the post ignoble services; but his circumstances were very different from the slave of the southern states, for no person was, in the eye of the law, a villein, except as to his master; in relation to all other persons he was a freeman. Litt. Ten. s. 189, 190; Hallam's View of the Middle Ages, vol. i. 122, 124; vol. ii. 199.

The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.


I find your signature appropriate; not only as to your original intent for it, but for this discussion.

Your attached Commentary on Land doc is very helpful and informative for comprehending the mechanisms and meanings of the agreements we are surrounded and presented with.

Although these "DEEDs" to land are similar in their nature and intent, I wish to focus on the landed estate of property to one's body (= land, dust). Since each man or woman is the sole Heir to this closed grant and right of inheritance, it must have a way to claim it in that manner. For the majority of time, we have relinquished this inheritance out of ignorance and allowed it to be held in ward through our own unwitting consent and/or acquiesecence. As a result, our bodies have been subject to arrest, detainment and our energy and increase (sweat equity) has been claimed and harvested by the very same "wards".

There MUST be a way out. There MUST be a manner and method to declare immunity and absolute freedom from this wardship and take one's place and inheritance WITHOUT ANY Lordship or Ownership over us or our claimed lands. I believe that the conveyances, mechanisms and public offices in place are available to us to get to that end. In other words, "they" do not have absolute DOMINION over those creations which were intended for, or became the accepted and normative mechanisms in this day and age, our benefit as Heirs to the Kingdom on Earth.

If God has ordained these guardians, wards or perhaps "kings" on earth for the purpose of administering His Holy Will and Trust, then there MUST BE provisions and avenues for the sons and daughters to come forth with their rightful claims of Divine inheritance. These claims MUST BE recognized and relinquished ABSOULTELY from the guardians or said guardians NO LONGER OPERATE under His authority. There curse (oath) obligates them to either "rule" or "serve" depending upon the character and standing of the one who is before them. When we properly and lawfully come forth and declare our rightful place and Divine inheritance, their duty and homage is to the Almighty Creator and SERVE His sons and daughters who come forth in His Name.

I recognize that there are some created trusts and conveyances that were strictly created for use INSIDE the creations of men. This is out of necessity for there are many who are lost and in need of being "ruled". By our study and research we can recognize these "agreements" and avoid them totally.

I believe that the originally created "DEED" when we were born into this world can be redeemed by us in the proper manner so as to cancel and cease ANY AND ALL wardship or guardianship over the grant of our landed estate on earth.

The proper and lawful manner and method to accomplish this is what I am after. I am for the truth, no matter what that reveals.

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Originally Posted by Michael Joseph

For one to comprehend what is going on Within a DEED one must know Standing, Status, What is being Granted, and what can be received as Grantee. The capacity of a Grantee and the nature of the Trust Law and Estate wherein the Grant is conveyed, sold or transferred.

SEIGNIOR or SEIGNEUR. Among the feudists, this name signified lord of the fee. F. N. B. 23. The most extended signification of this word includes not only a lord or peer of parliament, but is applied to the owner or proprietor of a thing; hence, the owner of a hawk, and the master of a fishing vessel, is called a seigneur. 37 Edw. Ill. c. 19; Barr. on the Stat. 258.

SEIGNIORY, Eng. law. The rights of a lord as such, in lands. Swinb. 174.

SEISIN, estates. The possession of an estate of freebold. 8 N. H. Rep. 57; 3 Hamm. 220; 8 Litt. 134; 4 Mass. 408. Seisin was used in contradistinction to that precarious kind of possession by which tenants in villenage held their lands, which was considered to be the possession of their lords in, whom the freehold continued.


5. The actual seisin of an estate may be lost by the forcible entry of a stranger who thereby ousts or dispossesses the owner this act is called a disseisin. (q. v.)


VILLEINAGE. the tenure by which a villein held land and tenements from a lord.

Comment by MJ: Typically the Tenure was in Husbandry [farming], knights service, or ecclessia.

VILLEIN, Engl. law. A species of slave during the feudal times.'

2. The feudal villein of the lowest order was unprotected as to property, and subjected to the post ignoble services; but his circumstances were very different from the slave of the southern states, for no person was, in the eye of the law, a villein, except as to his master; in relation to all other persons he was a freeman. Litt. Ten. s. 189, 190; Hallam's View of the Middle Ages, vol. i. 122, 124; vol. ii. 199.

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Thank you for your offering MJ, especially the Commentary on Land PDF.
I cannot find the footnotes which correspond to the blue numbers in the text though.
What am I missing?

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Originally Posted by Treefarmer

Thank you for your offering MJ, especially the Commentary on Land PDF.
I cannot find the footnotes which correspond to the blue numbers in the text though.
What am I missing?

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Probably This - CLICK HERE

BELOW CITES HAVE MY COMMENTS [BRACKETED IN CAPS] See Blackstone's:

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/blackstone.asp

See Book 2: Book the Second : The Rights of Things

Book 2, Chapter 20, page 311: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_cent...ne_bk2ch20.asp
"BUT by the mere words of the deed the feoffment is by no means perfected. There remains a very material ceremony to be performed, called livery of feifin; without which the feoffee has but a mere eftate at will e. This livery of feifin is no other than the pure feodal inveftiture, or delivery of corporal poffeffion of the land or tenement; which was held abfolutely neceffary to complete the donation. “ Nam feudum fine inveftitura nullo modo conftitui potuit f :” and an eftate was then only perfect, when, as Fleta expreffes it in our law, “fit juris et feifinae conjunctio g.[A CONJUNCTION OF THE RIGHT AND SEISIN]”

Page 314:
"LIVERYof feifin, by the common law, is neceffary to be made upon every grant of an eftate of freehold in hereditaments corporeal, whether of inheritance or for life only. In hereditaments incorporeal it is impoffible to be made; for they are not the object of the fenfes: and in leafes for years, or other chattel interefts, it is not neceffary. In leafes for years indeed an actual entry is neceffary; to veft the eftate in the leffee: for the bare leafe gives him only a right to enter, which is called his intereft in the term, or intereffe termini; and, when he enters in purfuance of that right, he is then and not before in poffeffion of his term, and complete tenant for years p. This entry by the tenant himfelf ferves the purpofe of notoriety, as well as livery of feifin from the grantor could have done; which it would have been improper to have given in this cafe, becaufe that folemnity is appropriated to the conveyance of a freehold. And this is one reafon why freeholds cannot be made to commence in futuro, becaufe they cannot be made but by livery of feifin; which livery, being an actual manual tradition of the land, muft take effect in praefenti, or not at all q."

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"LIVERY of feifin is either in deed, or in law. Livery in deed is thus performed. The feoffor, leffor, or his attorney, together with the feoffee, leffee, or hid attorney, (for this may as effectually be done by deputy or attorney, as by the principals themfelves in perfon ) come to the land, or to the houfe; and there, in the prefence of witneffes, declare the contents of the feoffment or leafe, on which livery is to be made. And then the feoffor[STRAWMAN], if it be of land, doth deliver to the feoffee[MAN], all other perfons being out of the ground, a clod or turf [OR FINGERPRINT], or a twig or bough there growing, with words to this effect. “I deliver thefe to you in the name of feifin of all the lands and tenements contained in this deed.” But, if it be of a houfe, the feoffor muft take the ring, or latch of the door, the houfe being quite empty, and deliver it to the feoffee in the fame form; and then the feoffee muft enter alone, and fhut to the door, and then open it, and let in the others w. If the conveyance or feoffment be of divers lands, lying fcattered in one and the fame county, then in the feoffor's poffeffion, livery of feifin of any parcel, in the name of the reft, fufficeth for all x ; but, if they be in feveral counties, there muft be as many liveries as there are counties. For, if the title to thefe lands comes to be difputed, there muft be as many trials as there are counties, and the jury of one county are no judges of the notoriety of a fact in another. Befides, antiently this feifin was obliged to be delivered coram paribus de vicineto, before the peers or freeholders of the neighbourhood, who attefted fuch delivery in the body or on the back of the deed[2 WITNESSES SIGN BACK OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR COLB, NOTARIZED WITH NOTARY CERTIFICATE ATTACHED?]; according to the rule of the feodal law y, pares debent intereffe inveftiturae feudi, et non alii : for which this reafon is expreffly given; becaufe the peers or vafals of the lord, being bound by their oath of fealty, will take care that no fraud be committed to his prejudice, which ftrangers might be apt to connive at. And though, afterwards, the ocular atteftation of the pares was held unneceffary, and livery might be made before any credible witneffes, yet the trial, in cafe it was difputed, (like that of all other atteftations z) was ftill referved to the pares or jury of the county a. Alfo, if the lands be out on leafe, though all lie in the fame county, there muft be as many liveries as there are tenants : becaufe no livery can be made in this cafe, but by the confent of the particular tenant; and the confent of one will not bind the reft b. And in all thefe cafes it is prudent, and ufual, to endorfe the livery of feifin on the back of the deed, fpecifving the manner, place, and time of making it; together with the names of the witneffes c. And thus much for livery in deed."

Book 2, Chapter 13:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_cent...ne_bk2ch13.asp

"Right of poffeffion, and I retain nothing but the mere right of property. And even this right of property will fail, or at leaft it will be without a remedy, unlefs I purfue it within the fpace of fixty years. So alfo if the father be tenant in tail, and alienes the eftate-tail to a ftranger in fee, the alienee thereby gains the right of poffeffion, and the fon hath only the mere right or right of property. And hence it will follow, that one man may have the poffeffion, another the right of poffeffion, and a third the right of poffeffion, and the iffue in tail the right of property : A may recover the poffeffion againft B ; and afterwards the iffue in tail may evict A, and unite in himfelf the poffeffion, the right of poffeffion, and alfo the right of property. In which union confifts,
IV. A complete title to lands, tenements, and hereditaments. For it is an antient maxim of the law e, that no title is completely good, unlefs the right of poffeffion be joined with the right of property ; which right is then denominated a double right, jus duplicatum, or droit droit f. And when to this double right the actual poffeffion is alfo united, when there is, according to the expreffion of Fleta g, juris et feifinae conjunctio, then, and then only, is the title completely legal."

Book 3: PRIVATE WRONGS
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...=5948#post5948
Book 3, Chapter 10:
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FOR, in every complete title o to lands, there are two things neceffary; the poffeffion or feifin, and the right or property therein e: or, as it is expreffed in Fleta, the juris et feifinae conjunctio f. Now, if the poffeffion be fevered from the property, if A has the jus proprietatis, and B by fome unlawful means has gained poffeffion of lands, this is an injury to A; for which the law gives a remedy, by putting him in poffeffion, but does it by different means according to the circumftances of the cafe. Thus, as B, who was himfelf the wrongdoer, and hath obtained the poffeffion by either fraud or force, hath only a bare or naked poffeffion, without any fhadow of right; A therefore, who hath both the right of property and the right of poffeffion, may put an end to his title at once, b the fummary method of entry. But, if B the wrongdoer dies feifed of the lands, then B's heir advances one ftep farther towards a good title: he hath not only a bare poffeffion, but alfo an apparent jus poffeffionis, or right of poffeffion. For the law perfumes, that the poffeffion, which is tranfmitted from the anceftor to the heir, is a rightful poffeffion, until the contrary be fhewn: and therefore the mere entry of A is not allowed to evict the heir of B; but A is driven to his action at law to remove the poffeffion of the heir, though his entry alone would have difpoffeffed the anceftor."

Book 2, Chapter 13:
http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/blac.../book2.13.htmlhttp://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/blac.../book2.13.html

"IV. A complete title to lands, tenements, and hereditaments. For it is an ancient maxim of the law,5 that no title is completely good, unless the right of possession be joined with the right of property; which right is then denominated a double right, jus duplicatum , or droit droit .6 And when to this double right the actual possession is also united, when there is, according to the expression of Fleta,7 juris et seisinae conjunctio [a conjunction of the right and seizin], then, and then only, is the title completely legal."


[MY COMMENT ON ABOVE: As to "The proper and lawful manner and method to accomplish this is what I am after.", my post here is to shed some light on the "a very material ceremony to be performed, called livery of feifin" that may be what we need to perform using the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) document. Please focus on this very important task and contribute more research.

Doug

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Originally Posted by Michael Joseph

For one to comprehend what is going on Within a DEED one must know Standing, Status, What is being Granted, and what can be received as Grantee. The capacity of a Grantee and the nature of the Trust Law and Estate wherein the Grant is conveyed, sold or transferred.

SEIGNIOR or SEIGNEUR. Among the feudists, this name signified lord of the fee. F. N. B. 23. The most extended signification of this word includes not only a lord or peer of parliament, but is applied to the owner or proprietor of a thing; hence, the owner of a hawk, and the master of a fishing vessel, is called a seigneur. 37 Edw. Ill. c. 19; Barr. on the Stat. 258.

SEIGNIORY, Eng. law. The rights of a lord as such, in lands. Swinb. 174.

SEISIN, estates. The possession of an estate of freebold. 8 N. H. Rep. 57; 3 Hamm. 220; 8 Litt. 134; 4 Mass. 408. Seisin was used in contradistinction to that precarious kind of possession by which tenants in villenage held their lands, which was considered to be the possession of their lords in, whom the freehold continued.


5. The actual seisin of an estate may be lost by the forcible entry of a stranger who thereby ousts or dispossesses the owner this act is called a disseisin. (q. v.)


VILLEINAGE. the tenure by which a villein held land and tenements from a lord.

Comment by MJ: Typically the Tenure was in Husbandry [farming], knights service, or ecclessia.

VILLEIN, Engl. law. A species of slave during the feudal times.'

2. The feudal villein of the lowest order was unprotected as to property, and subjected to the post ignoble services; but his circumstances were very different from the slave of the southern states, for no person was, in the eye of the law, a villein, except as to his master; in relation to all other persons he was a freeman. Litt. Ten. s. 189, 190; Hallam's View of the Middle Ages, vol. i. 122, 124; vol. ii. 199.

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greetings michael joseph, david merrill and the rest of the wo/men on this forum. this is my first post hereon.

just to give a bit of background, i have read and enjoyed and have tried to internalize the teachings granted on this and many other forums/venues as well, my journey having started in july of 2012 upon choosing to review some 9-11 (september 11, 2001) videos on youtube that gave rise to many doubts and fears (!!) regarding what's really 'going on' in the world and how to best come out of her. please feel free to correct and comment on any and everything granted here by this man. the process, from my limited ability to 'see' and 'hear' is never-ending and i'm just beginning. many thanks if advance.

in the process, the other day i came across michael jospeh's 2011 pdf entitled "Commentary on Land", as i'm in the process of comprehending all that needs to be comprehended/overstood in order to have land here on idaho vested in this man and then assigned/conveyed/transferred to another party as fiduciary (trustee) for maintenance, upkeep, insurance, etcetera for said land and all corporeal and incorporeal appurtenances, etcetera all.

many thanks for sharing, michael joseph!

one question: were there originally only 13 pages to said pdf file? it seems that the description was cut off; that there was more that may not have been included in the pdf as posted on this forum.

any (further) assistance and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

peace, love and life to you all and yours...

andrew patrick

Welcome Andrew Patrick!


I might check into the .pdf file if Michael Joseph does not respond this weekend. I suspect that it is just a matter of updating the link. This thread is pretty old.

Otherwise I am having a great time bringing to fruition a quote of mine and sharing it with you might help improve the world:

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God is Love because the Holy Spirit will consistently deliver the correct interpretation of the infinite sea of information in allegorical metaphor created by the ego.

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An amazing artist friend of mine Linda Darlene GADBOIS painted a metaphysic I like to keep in plenty of light:

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Linda has a doctorate in spiritual science and texted me something:

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God as our higher self communicates with us intuitively thru allegorical metaphor. If we don't know how to speak the language by being able to interpret and discern its meaning then there is no real means of communication and we fail to see the reality that lies hidden within surface ideas, waiting to be recognized and perceived as real. Shapes and analogies as a series of correspondences, represent formulas as laws all interacting within a situation that forms a dynamic that is ideal for everyone involved at different levels of awareness and as suited to each person's level of consciousness. Thru adaptation that reforms and interprets thru their personal model the same symbol can take on thousands of different meanings, and in some cases, none at all because the person doesn't even recognize them as a language that has deep hidden clues within it revealing operations that would serve as instructions, if, they could only be able to actually perceive them.

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In other words:

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All things work for good, all the time - and it just keeps getting better and better.

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greetings michael joseph, david merrill and the rest of the wo/men on this forum. this is my first post hereon.

just to give a bit of background, i have read and enjoyed and have tried to internalize the teachings granted on this and many other forums/venues as well, my journey having started in july of 2012 upon choosing to review some 9-11 (september 11, 2001) videos on youtube that gave rise to many doubts and fears (!!) regarding what's really 'going on' in the world and how to best come out of her. please feel free to correct and comment on any and everything granted here by this man. the process, from my limited ability to 'see' and 'hear' is never-ending and i'm just beginning. many thanks if advance.

in the process, the other day i came across michael jospeh's 2011 pdf entitled "Commentary on Land", as i'm in the process of comprehending all that needs to be comprehended/overstood in order to have land here on idaho vested in this man and then assigned/conveyed/transferred to another party as fiduciary (trustee) for maintenance, upkeep, insurance, etcetera for said land and all corporeal and incorporeal appurtenances, etcetera all.

many thanks for sharing, michael joseph!

one question: were there originally only 13 pages to said pdf file? it seems that the description was cut off; that there was more that may not have been included in the pdf as posted on this forum.

any (further) assistance and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

peace, love and life to you all and yours...

andrew patrick

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Unfortunately I wrote that prior to the "great computer crash of 2013". I lost many of my writings in that crash. I heard a man say that in order for one to love another there must be intimacy. I myself do not subscribe to such a philosophy. I can love my brethren in my work. Which is evidenced in your writing. Apparently you benefited from the work and as such I am edified and find justification of my purpose.

I will attempt to connect this thread to another more recent thread with the concept of the dead hand. When land aliens to a dead hand there can be no compelled service of a dead hand. Consider now the concept of Socage and Ward in regard to management of persons and various estates granted of the king to his lords.

Agree, love and physical intimacy are for the most part unrelated and one can love a woman or a man or a child without physical intimacy. Its part of psychological conditioning of youth in the past 20 years to associate love with sexual gratification to the extent many cannot see straight. One even told me "F*** the idea of love without sex." Much of the Gay Agenda rests upon such an associative error. Mix that in with a ideology of hatred of life + a type of caustic and hostile Onanism and you got yourself a doozie.

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Unfortunately I wrote that prior to the "great computer crash of 2013". I lost many of my writings in that crash. I heard a man say that in order for one to love another there must be intimacy. I myself do not subscribe to such a philosophy. I can love my brethren in my work. Which is evidenced in your writing. Apparently you benefited from the work and as such I am edified and find justification of my purpose.

I will attempt to connect this thread to another more recent thread with the concept of the dead hand. When land aliens to a dead hand there can be no compelled service of a dead hand. Consider now the concept of Socage and Ward in regard to management of persons and various estates granted of the king to his lords.

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first and foremost, many thanks for the quick response and for posting more on the topic inquired about.

second, many thanks for granting more discernment on said topic. beautiful.

regarding a warranty deed, i was granted upon consideration a copy from a deputy recorder (ada county idaho) of a warranty deed for property that i formerly 'owned' - in fee simple; who's my daddy/lord - seeing that the only signatory on said instrument was the alleged grantor. i, as grantee, had not signed that instrument.

so i did sign the recently-acquired certified copy, signed it, put together a acknowledgment and acceptance (perfection of the deed, as i comprehend it), along with secretary of state's acknowledgment of the notary which acknowledged my autograph/signature/mark.

to try to make a long story short, one of the deputy recorder's said she'd have to check with the recorder, who was out to lunch at the time. in the meantime, she asked if i wanted her to take a copy of said instruments to show the recorder when the got back. at first i refused to grant copies, then after some back and forth, i said ok and she commenced to make copies.

at that point, a grant and been made, but i as grantor (of the instruments) and the office of recorder as... grantee/trustee? no beneficiary was named, nor was there any indenture or declaration made, so i don't know. in the end, the instruments were never 'recorded' on the county.

[several 'cool' things happened on this one visit which served to give me discernment and i find myself trying to relate all of it. i'll cease that now and keep it short(er)]

in general, i now am going to correct what i trust are mistakes in both the warranty deed - i'll delete all references to 'fee' - and the acknowledgment to reflect 'absolute title'.

regarding the certificate of live birth, i'm still trying to wrap my head around the nature, substance and character of a 'certificate' issued by... i'm not sure.. a de jure or de facto or intruder/usurper 'office/officer/entity', such as a certificate of title of a vehicle (illinois verbiage, i believe) and others, including but not limited to the certificate of live birth (colb).

in taking in what the likes of christian walters (cw) has/had to offer on the topic of trust relations, it seems to my comprehension that certificates issued by entities, such as the colb, are certificates of legal title with the beneficial title vested in the county/state/entity. in the discussion i listened to where said discernment took place, the example was a title to a car, so that may explain the difference here. in any case, cw stressed that from his perspective, as soon as both (legal and equitable/beneficial) titles merged in the same trust posistion (grantor, beneficiary or trustee), that particular trust terminates... and then what? they leave you alone...

in gaining discernment from the likes of roark (seminars with eric jon phelps on pennsylvania), the end goal, for instance with one is sued for an alleged credit card debt, getting beat up in an inferior, at-law court, all the while reserving as many equitable liberties and rights as possible, then appealing de novo, getting into private chambers, enumerating all the trusts associated with said court case and having the 'judge' appoint the clerk of the court as trustee to hold all the funds from the securitizations related to the credit card application signature, pool and servicing agreements, etcetera.

redemption has got to be simpler than all that. i trust in my heart and in yahweh that it is. the discernment escapes my limited vision and hearing at this point however.

maybe claiming that colb 'to' the (birth) county attorney and assigning it on special deposit? or any county attorney for that matter, for setoff, settlement and closure of all debt accounts and revestment and return of all issues, profits, proceeds, etcetera generated/created therefrom (and held in the ESTATE NAME).

i'll stop now.

many thanks for the past and all future input!

love, peace and life to you all...

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Welcome Andrew Patrick!


I might check into the .pdf file if Michael Joseph does not respond this weekend. I suspect that it is just a matter of updating the link. This thread is pretty old.

Otherwise I am having a great time bringing to fruition a quote of mine and sharing it with you might help improve the world:





An amazing artist friend of mine Linda Darlene GADBOIS painted a metaphysic I like to keep in plenty of light:

Attachment 3072

Linda has a doctorate in spiritual science and texted me something:






In other words:

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yes, eyes to see and ears to hear are a prerequisite to acquiring knowledge. seems to me to be the case, anyway.

it's an interesting feeling and phenomenon, this gaining discernment. at times it seems to me it's taking too long and very often i find that fear creeps in and keeps me from going to the post office to put in some taxe percue or similar mail matter, which i've done successfully in the past, or heading to the county recorder to have something recorded, etcetera.

the discernment and knowing the language in order to be able to communicate and comprehend what one has at one's disposal, right in front of one's nose, so to speak, involves replacing those imprinted bits,bytes, etcetera of misinformation and other 'garbage' that clog the mind and the flow of energy(s) necessary to achieve said discernment.

the men on this forum 'blow my mind' with some of the depth of discernment/wisdom referenced hereon. beautiful.

just fyi, i started this journey of discovery with creditors in commerce and brandon alexander adams, then was enlightened as the david clarence's teachings in december 2103 and more recently those of timothy james calhoun and most recently i had the pleasure of hearing eric jon phelps and roark discuss pre-1933 private citizen of the united states/private american national status and trusts, basically taking many of christain walters' concepts and adding the position of grantee to the mix.

again, many thanks for the responses. i look forward to communicating further with the men on this forum.

peace, love and life to you all...

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Originally Posted by David Merrill

Welcome Andrew Patrick!


I might check into the .pdf file if Michael Joseph does not respond this weekend. I suspect that it is just a matter of updating the link. This thread is pretty old.

Otherwise I am having a great time bringing to fruition a quote of mine and sharing it with you might help improve the world:





An amazing artist friend of mine Linda Darlene GADBOIS painted a metaphysic I like to keep in plenty of light:

Attachment 3072

Linda has a doctorate in spiritual science and texted me something:






In other words:

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hello and many thanks for your reply, david merrill! i appreciate it and you very much.

i replied earlier to this post, but i either failed to send it or i'm looking in the wrong place.


as previously expressed, many thanks...

There is your reply and another visit to my bedroom.

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Become affiliated by birthright as heir apparent, into the original estate of True Name, Land and lawful money (outside the scope of war time fiat/theater of war). [Adopt the bastard issue.] Become the peaceful inhabitant. In a sense you will rely on a quiet title that did not remain so quiet (1776). Note the middle of Page 2, especially the paragraph mentioning Matthew THORNTON.

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation1.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation2.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation3.jpg

Note also my signature includes an expression that I am a statesman - the Great Seal of Authority - followed by my family's name VAN PELT. Then realize from the opening post that this is a title. (VAN PELT is closely sounded to Ben Palte which according to Strong's means Son of the Patron [Patroon], which is quite true.] The signors of the Declaration used full legal names in that same form. They were not men, albeit they were indeed men, but they signed wet ink on the parchment as persons - the responsible fiduciaries (trustees) of their own estates; life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Many of them lost that gamble in one or more of those three forms during the Revolutionary War that followed.

Here is another example that might make it a bit clearer.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/739...inalreturn.jpg

Processing that Notice of Lien ($20M) had to be done properly or I would have been in trouble on a class 5 felony of forgery because I was using the Great Seal on a UCC Form financial instrument. Essentially I was endorsing the instrument for the comptroller at the state Treasury and asking for the validation of that endorsement by the secretary of state. Look at the warning in ALL CAPS on the second or third Rejection.

Click Here.

I am okay though. I had to use the SoS testimony to form my cause. If I had tried to explain it to them instead I would more likely be in jail than sitting on a valid $20M lien. Notice the bleed-through seal (endorsements are traditionally on the backside of the instrument) and then go back and read the note it obscures, I wrote at the bottom. What the SoS did was send me a fellows approved articles of incorporation that were related to me by only one thing - venue! My state (estate) is the Colorado Republic. I forwarded the articles to Mr. DREW as trustee of the Resulting Trust, since the SoS was obviously in breach of the original trust with Mr. DREW by sending his document to me instead of him. To follow this line of reasoning notice the Agent Address and then notice the Notice on Page 2. By approving the Articles the SoS was acknowledging our venue of a territorial republic formed out of the survey on the Approbation I show you above.

Imagine the State as your father parens patriae. - At least until you are willing to stand up to your father and face your new kingdom. Notice the author's name.



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. In other words, be competent and quit defaulting into admiralty.

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greetings wo/men!

in studying trusts and trust relations deeper and tying the several pieces this far collected in one's mind, i came across a reference, similar to david merrill's in the above post, to 1776, which christian walters refers to as "1776 A. D. law form" in the following indenture/declaration, (which was) used generally to convey via trust special deposit any 'presentment' from whatever entity for extinguishment of all debt:

Christian walters trust indenture talkshoe kingdom of god in equity show 83 at 1 hour 36 min

by this declaration I, the real man [true name here] [or similar], hereinafter grantor/settlor of this confidential relation, express, revocable private trust, modifiable from time to time, is competent with age of majority and power to choose, and having all unalienable right, title and interest, without granting a waiver of any right, relief, remedy or defense, now comes in good faith under 1776 A. D. law form with purpose of all laws of nature and of natures God specifically instructs and specially orders the following upon receipt: grantor in equity, granted in confidence and reliance on in the past for the trustee to have the use of his equitable signature to be returned in kind some time in the future along with all proceeds therefrom at grantor or beneficiary's order. Grantor in equity granted to beneficiary to hold the right to take a fee and or performance/duty as merging and extinguishment , discharging obligations or debts for beneficiary's education, support and maintenance for life with remainder to his heirs. Beneficiary has the right to determine the quality and quantity of his education, support and maintenance for life. The trustee has all power to do all lawful acts requisite for affecting the premise.

again, please feel free to comment, correct, amend, suggest and the like to any and all postings from this man, as i see and hear that that is one way to acquire knowledge and be able to equitably convert said knowledge into (applied) wisdom. appreciation therefor is hereby duly granted in advance...

interesting to note that roark's methods of applying trusts, which from my perspective are derived in great part to the offerings of said christian walters, put great significance of being/claiming the right as one of 'the people' described in the "Constitution of the United States (of America)", but not as heavily on being/claiming the right to the 'posterity' described in the "Declaration of Independence".

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Unfortunately I wrote that prior to the "great computer crash of 2013". I lost many of my writings in that crash. I heard a man say that in order for one to love another there must be intimacy. I myself do not subscribe to such a philosophy. I can love my brethren in my work. Which is evidenced in your writing. Apparently you benefited from the work and as such I am edified and find justification of my purpose.

I will attempt to connect this thread to another more recent thread with the concept of the dead hand. When land aliens to a dead hand there can be no compelled service of a dead hand. Consider now the concept of Socage and Ward in regard to management of persons and various estates granted of the king to his lords.

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here on boise, idaho, at the state archives location, they are exhibiting what purport to be letters patent (appointments to offices such as chief justice of the supreme court, etc. of the "Territory of Idaho") and other writings, including the attached, which, if i remember correctly, lincoln allegedly scribed as an attorney for some folks he knew regarding some property they claimed an interest in.

interesting to note some of the words/terms that michael joseph offered in his explanation of the various degrees and nature of 'fee' as regards real property, such as 'fee simple absolute', 'living stock of heirs', etcetera. i don't recall in what year this was purported to have been made.

peace, love and life to all...

p.s. can't find a way to attach a photo. may just not see it or may have to wait to be 'unfiltered' on this forum :)

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There is your reply and another visit to my bedroom.

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see if this helps get back on topic:

http://highfrequency.forumchitchat.c...ficate-7696209

authentication seems to many a worthy path to follow. im seriously considering it too. anyone know a good reason not to that they can back up with straight talk?

thanks

Globalized authority ITS authentication seems to many a worthy path to follow. im seriously considering it too. anyone know a good reason not to that they can back up with straight talk? Christ a regional bank account,Lay fully acceptable a selfie authorization of my office and own banking system and those United Districts founded under GOD in this a Christian Nation given governed national protocol is debt debtor debtors .BANKING with CHOICE = CHASE OR CHRIST straight talk? or religions finer print is a bill/bull markets or trust fair exchange its reserves and holding rights demands i take live notes in a true living form and free me from this estate. Dragons smoke and mirrors puff was a leftist being he left his first estate for choice and creations have dates estates as a mirrored realm cant right hands look like left in a house of mirrors .george papermoons flattering choice a cash cow jumping over the moon .never take a slider get the paper jumping.

straight talk - clearly articulated, directly on point communication.

thanks anyway.

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see if this helps get back on topic:

http://highfrequency.forumchitchat.c...ficate-7696209

authentication seems to many a worthy path to follow. im seriously considering it too. anyone know a good reason not to that they can back up with straight talk?

thanks

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What follows is a painless, jail-free, non-confrontational, LAWFUL, process to reclaim the status of holder in due course to the Title to YOU.Well why not get a chipset or a badges like the concentration is the CAMP this creation is nowhere near being free if a application is begging Wow! If we get our Certificate of Title .Authenticate my entitlement gives who authority I never take a slider get the paper jumping, Court clerks may try to get you to settle for a certification instead of authentication, but remember we need "Properly authenticated copies!"

how and why is it possible that it would be treated as equal to the original?
First who owns the paper the BC is a fixers price no prize its a bill its printed on bank paper note stock.imagery alone its development false and idolatrous mammon .Its still in my opinion a death certificate dressed up as a living event.Remedying me leaves them telling a you nothing . george itself himself he him you his are badges if separated whats my authorization or authority to my authenticity/if Mans value is hi entitlement its authority me the registered claimant noted if its Correcting your Status they have already deemed you. Trust the ink never getting identified or being authenticate

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see if this helps get back on topic:

http://highfrequency.forumchitchat.c...ficate-7696209

authentication seems to many a worthy path to follow. im seriously considering it too. anyone know a good reason not to that they can back up with straight talk?

thanks

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george, it would appear you seek validation to pursue this 'authentication'


So quit considering it, george........you have my approval to proceed with the many.......despite the sound and spot-on warnings not to expounded upon by xparte......which you clearly have dismissed

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here on boise, idaho, at the state archives location, they are exhibiting what purport to be letters patent (appointments to offices such as chief justice of the supreme court, etc. of the "Territory of Idaho") and other writings, including the attached, which, if i remember correctly, lincoln allegedly scribed as an attorney for some folks he knew regarding some property they claimed an interest in.

interesting to note some of the words/terms that michael joseph offered in his explanation of the various degrees and nature of 'fee' as regards real property, such as 'fee simple absolute', 'living stock of heirs', etcetera. i don't recall in what year this was purported to have been made.

peace, love and life to all...

p.s. can't find a way to attach a photo. may just not see it or may have to wait to be 'unfiltered' on this forum :)

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Hello andrew patrick.

I like your name: andrew - "a might man"; patrick - From the Latin name Patricius, which meant "nobleman".

I remember when I used to go a-searchin in the state archives. There came a day though when I dug too deep. The "archive master" said "boy dem papers are confidential". That was when I knew for sure - i was not entitled to see the business plan. Now consider for a moment what that means. If I was to enter into public office would I then be entitled to see "dem der papers?" I think not. Therefore that tells me that good ole North Cacalaki was a PROPRIETORSHIP - and guess what I found.

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an den I thunk to meself dat purhapz just purhapz the good ole U.S. was also a private organization established with its own business plan.

Canada is clearly subject to English Law here in the States it is the same it is just not so clear. For while the subject were granted liberty [a revocable grant] the interests in the plantations were never abandoned. Ref "so called" peace treaty written by the "so called" loser telling the "so called" winner how the "so called" winner was going to repay the war debt.

For you bible thumpers I will restate. Tyre just moved to a new location - New York city.

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Tyre just moved to a new location - New York city.

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Trafficking in the souls of men...

So today I was talking to a man who performs the office of landscape contractor to the development community. He was a bit upset about his having to collect Sales and Use Taxes on behalf of the State. He had a moment so I took the minute or two to explain the trust relationship of which he is clearly the trustee.

He represents the interests of his company in such a manner to the State Revenue Department to the extent that he has filed for a State Sales and Use license to collect taxes. I will not enter into whether or not he is required to do such a deed but rather I enter upon the concept of he filing an APPLICATION FOR BENEFITS as Grantee/Trustee. He received the benefit of a Sales and Use number [benefits public trust of which he is a member] and for the benefit of the use of the trust account number, he gets the privilege to collect the taxes, file the reports and hold the taxes in trust on behalf of the State whereof he must give accurate accounting as Trustee.

He was a bit upset that he is not getting paid for all of this extra work. It is almost humorous isn't it? When one gets involved in central banking one has indeed stepped into a mountain of horse "manure". I told him that this must qualify for one of the seven levels of hell just above the yearly trip to the DMV whereupon one stands in line for at least an hour for the privilege to give the grumpy clerk protection money to keep the pesky "made men and their agents" at bay.

Once I made special visitation upon an emergency room wherein many were performing special services for the sick and the needy. Once I was asked to be a guarantor for any services performed and I was asked to grant the men and women who were occupying in such offices full indemnification for any such service they performed or thought needed to be performed on me or to me. I am not inclined to think of the temple in which I reside as an experimental guinea pig; therefore, I declined to accept liability for others to practice upon the temple. To the surprise of the men and women they were informed to perform their office absent any charges. Desiring now to give extra special treatment to the crazy man who seemingly knows the deal, they offered such service as MRI scans and other such exploratory procedures. Without desire for such treatment, I just said No. And that was that!

I wonder if the good ole admin folk even knew that I had the power to grant or accept all liability. I choose to let them do their job in full liability as it should be.

Shalom,
MJ

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george, it would appear you seek validation to pursue this 'authentication'


So quit considering it, george........you have my approval to proceed with the many.......despite the sound and spot-on warnings not to expounded upon by xparte......which you clearly have dismissed

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ag manic, priorly, Ive noticed that your motive for communicating with me is of a questionable nature as it seem to be now and you also mis take my words and motive(s) here. therefore, whatever else you have to converse with towards me will be refused for cause from this point forward.


for others, if nothing else, there is no harm in authenticating these documents and I challenge anyone here to prove otherwise.

what one does with the authenticated instruments after that could be risky though. Im discovering several directions people have taken after authentications. most notable is redeeming it and another direction is returning it to the RCC.

george....let me spell it out for you


BC authentication = wild goose chase


Fix your status george.....otherwise you are a presumed us citizen


us citizen = slave

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george....let me spell it out for you


BC authentication = wild goose chase


Fix your status george.....otherwise you are a presumed us citizen


us citizen = slave

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I like to add that perceptions, when in alignment with God's Word quickly become knowledge. My rendition is that state banks are somewhere below US citizen in sovereignty and since the remedy was originally framed for "state banks" and the "They" in the remedy is a pronoun... Well, if you have a pulse, you have access to remedy.