Thanks to Wayne Baumann for this information. It's insane to think that it's the same in all 50 of the American territories ! Here's the other signature on the NEW YORK STATE (legal definition is STATE OF NEW YORK, Not New York state) Look it up.
https://www.dos.ny.gov/info/constitution.htm
Old news, there is definitely a difference between "University of New York" and "New York University". If you take a gander across states, you'll likely find that there are often dual university systems. University of Missouri vs Missouri State University... University of Illinois vs Illinois State University. There is a difference between New York Attorney General and Attorney General of the State of New York. There is a difference between Emperor of Germany and the German Emperor (was regarded by Otto von Bismark to be superior than the former). The difference between "New York" and State of New York is that New York refers to a nation. The State of New York seems to refer to a trust, an estate (i.e. state) or other type of organization. However, in statute "New York" might be defined to mean or to be short for "State of New York" or for "the State of New York".
It might be worth noting or researching whether or not New York ratified the Constitution for the United States of America.
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The New York Provincial Congress of local representatives declared itself the government on May 22, 1775, first referred to the "State of New York" in 1776, and ratified the New York State Constitution in 1777. While the British regained New York City during the American Revolutionary War using it as its military and political base of operations in North America and a British governor was technically in office, much of the remainder of the former colony was held by the Patriots. British claims on any part of New York ended with the Treaty of Paris of 1783.
It looks as though they formed the "NEW YORK STATE" corporation the following year Allodial ! So the State of New York, and true law still exists. It really is two forms of government when you think about it.
So ... you get the general idea. They probably aren't feeling guilty about any jurisdictional dyslexia you may have heretofore suffered. Perhaps this might help you and any readers reach a cure: The City of St. Louis is (the name of) a municipal corporation (happens to be a homerule, independent city). However, St. Louis City refers to a county (aka County of St. Louis City). However, many seem to presume "City of St. Louis" and "St. Louis City" to be synonymous--t'aint so. "St. Louis County" refers to yet another (Missouri) county. Making "assumptions" is one thing. Making presumptions is another. Two different things.Quote:
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Most of them are delusional tyrant psychopaths, they don't feel anything for anyone one at all except themselves. Yes I see your point Allodial, I wish that more people knew about this information.
Yeah re: the underlying history/truth perhaps. But basic English grammar is another thing--or is it French? Do they easily mistake "water pump" for "pump water"?Quote:
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I prefer to explain it simply through METRO organization. Global municipal policy.
Where else do you find such a seat of Roman civil infrastructure? - Where David ROCKEFELLER could actually donate 18 acres of land as international soil.
Answer: Geneva. Interestingly just up the Rhone Valley is where the Pope keeps a private castle like a residential retreat - as I recall. More simply put, I could easily describe a mental model where those who endorse private credit from the Federal Reserve vote themselves into New York State while those non-endorsing and demanding lawful money are voting out of the Fed Districts and are situating themselves into the Constitutional form - State of New York.
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You might say the United States SPONSORED the United Nations - acknowledging the Claim. Is this Self Determination or something else. I leave it to the reader to decide.
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For most states is usually starts with something along the lines of... ""Report of Governor's Task Force Study on the Reorganization of the Executive Branch of State Government"
Then they quickly follow with whats listed below.
Amendment to the Constitution** effective January 1, 1962
A Constitutional Amendment to eliminate the executive department and give the authority to create the executive offices of the Governor
Originally proposed : Assembly Print No. 4567 (1960) - sponsor Assemblyman Walmsley
Approved 2nd year in a row as identical bills in 1961
Senate Print No. 501 - sponsors: Senator Pierce
Assembly Print No. 746: sponsor: Assemblyman Goddard
Submitted to "the People of New York" for vote (1961); passed
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I like how the bandits have converted everything they can to "Administrative Rules", instead of actual law !
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Government in Miniature is not allowed to exist without judicial review and oversight.
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What does that mean exactly ? I know without a contract they have no real power over you, but I'm not clear on the rest of what you meant.
Administrative government is "Government in Miniature" and for sake of expedition there are no checks and balances within it. Therefore it cannot exist without judicial review and oversight.
Where do you find the judicial oversight? Through constitution and law.
I have a great demonstration handy. A long-time suitor was arrested and charged with several felonies. He wanted my help so I kept sending him to the Courthouse and the County Clerk and Recorder and to the Secretary of State too. He was able to get the first Register of Action Certified Copy but they quickly stopped because he was filing everything into his Libel of Review (evidence repository) and so now he can get copies, just not Certified. From the Register of Action and the Affidavit of Probable Cause I pointed him to all the actors' oaths of office and by the constitutions where he should be able to find them, and also if he cannot to get Certificates of Fact that that actor HAS NOT filed an oath of office there.
It looked grim until we got all the oaths, including all the oaths of the Witnesses who cosigned the oaths. The County Sheriff who tackled the suitor had a proper oath, of correct form but signed by the County Judge. This County Judge also signed the subsequent Warrant for Arrest and the suitor was arrested a couple weeks afterward on that warrant. Well the County Court Judge has not signed an oath at all since 2006 and even so, has never filed an oath at all at the County Clerk and Recorder's office where it is supposed to be published and available according to the State Constitution. We found the 2006 oath of office published at the Secretary of State only. It is like the County Judge, also a small mountain town attorney never even read the State Constitution he swore to uphold.
All that to get to the point. We stopped process with an Abatement - Notice of Appeal; meaning the suitor was filing an interlocutory appeal before he was even arraigned! Felonies in that State are heard in District Court - which is significant to Forum. DISTRICT is the same as District of Columbia and is that global municipal jurisdiction; city of Washington, District of Columbia. So when he filed the Abatement in the District Court they would not take it, even though they were already hearing the felonies from County Court without charging a filing fee. So it was properly lodged and the clerk ignored the term Abatement on the Register of Action that the clerk would not Certify...
What I am really getting to is that the District Clerk gave Orders and Instructions with the Filing and so the suitor Refused the Presentments for Cause. He sensed honor with the District Judge so we included a Memorandum to explain how the matter of the Abatement was already adjudicated res judicata. The Jurists adjudicating it were all the judicial officers in the abatement who had their oaths of office in order and properly published! Everybody had genuine bona fide oaths of office except the one County Judge! They convicted him of pretending to be a County Court Judge while running a vacant office on bogus and absent oaths of office for so many years.
...to summarize.
Administrative government for all intents and purposes needs no constitutional provisions like oaths of office. Here (attached), the official intentionally avoids the oath process by swearing but without any authority to swear before except the bond of $5K posted by Traveler's Insurance Company. The entire Judicial District panicked and dissociated themselves from the IN GOD WE TRUST trust (bonding system through the Treasury/State Comptroller) simultaneously hours after I perfected a $20M lien based in properly filed and published oaths.
I have attached the oaths of the chief judge before and after the lien went into effect. Once the suitor - saving to suitors, in all cases the right of a common law remedy where the common law is competent to give it - instates remedy the judicial officers are without judicial and/or sovereign immunity because they are in violation of statute.
One votes their own incompetence however by endorsing private credit from the Fed. That is where the suitor consents to be considered in the Federal Reserve District. Do you see? Districts are extra-territorial and the dominion of the priestcraft - the cities and their suburbs (I Chronicles 6). Since the District has no territorial boundaries who is to say where the Fed Districts end and the 4th Judicial District begins?
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This might be worth adding: New York State is probably a territory (or administrative district) of New York or of the people of the State of New York.
Hint: the gold / silver coin limitation is probably inapplicable in territories.
Unless the specific term is used by the New York legislature its moot. The Wikipedia 'street talk' language is 'baby talk' and errant --and likely not binding upon the State of New York. The ratification was necessary to validate the constitution which established the State of New York. If looking for precise and exact names of states, governments or titles of officers I would look to specific founding documents, law books, court cases rather than to Wikipedia. (Officially, to knowledge, there is an "Attorney General of the State of New York" and a "New York State Attorney General" but not a "New York Attorney General" regardless of what the newspapers say.)Quote:
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Case in point. If you look at the Wikipedia article on the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles you might get the impression that Charles A Harnett was the first head of the the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles and that the the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles existed since 1924.
The truth is that Charles A. Harnett held the office of Commissioner of the "Bureau of Motor Vehicles of the State of New York" (1924-1960).
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Prior to the official opening of the DMV Albany Central Office on January 3, 1961, we were known as the Bureau of Motor Vehicles (1924-1960). (NYSDMV)
Between the lines, it is likely that the state's motor vehicle regulations went from state law to territorial or administrative law in 1961 (under Governor John Rockefeller). What a coincidence, silver coin stopped circulation in 1961. The New York State Department of Motor Vehicles did not exist prior to 1961--it is a new creation. The new agency assumed the functions of the former Bureau of Motor Vehicles was of the State of New York.Quote:
He said after speaking to his traffic unit who “eat and sleep cars,” they gave him a lesson on DMV history.
The state began registering vehicles in April 1901 and was the first to enact driver licensing in 1903, but wasn’t mandated until 1924. It also didn’t require annual registrations until 1910.
In 1911, license plates began being issued under a private contractor and in 1921 all functions of vehicle registration were transferred to the State Tax Commission.
Two year later in 1923, the state began manufacturing its own license plates at the state correctional facility in Auburn.
In 1961, all functions were taken over by the newly created DMV. (source)
P.S. the original flag for the State of New York featured a white background. In 1901 a change was made for a blue background.