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The Kingdom of Heaven is within.
The only thing between you and the kingdom of God is between your ears.
The kingdom of God is the sensation you receive when you radiate it.
Bono's logic fails to be very convincing, at least to me. - That because Jesus has altered the human mindset so deeply he must have been (The Only Begotten) Son of God. My studies of the Book of Mark indicate that would not have gotten Him killed by Sanhedrin and Herodian Guard (Pharisees and Saducees). Jesus was crowned by Archelaus HEROD (exiled King of Israel) by his prophet John BAPTIST. Then Jesus marched up the King's Road during the Holidays on a colt like in the prophecies and overturned the moneychanger's franchise in a manner that exposed the Herodian Guard of contracting the drachma/shekel coins, an extremely harsh usage tax (usury) with the Herodian Guard hoarding specialized (kosher) currency.
Mark was Peter's scribe and they met with Jesus, who had survived the three-hour torture of Crucifixion and Paul too, up in Damascus. These meetings were carried on over the period of three years with Paul "shock testing" the plan in Asia Minor where Paul knew full well that the pagans would soak up a human validation of the Birth-Death-Resurrection mythologies that had arisen from the weather patterns. Paul was raised there.
At any rate we find that the history of Israel brings to mind a much different picture than Bible history.
I feel that one important key to understanding what Bono is saying in his own spiritual walk is that "three days" comes from the observance that the solstices and equinox are all the same day-length for three consecutive days. This is both the three years that these four literate men met and planned how to keep the King of Israel and his Bloodline safe through a coded mythology, as well as the Three Days that Jesus was saying it would take for him to be Resurrected from the Dead. There is a firmly rooted aspect of the Messiah describing a dual messianic process between Messiah ben Joseph and Messiah ben David. Jesus applied this schedule to the Worthless Shepherd Prophecy of Zechariah and naturally concluded that the return of the (conquering) Messiah ben David would happen after three days of death.
Judas, failing to return to the Last Supper with sword as Zechariah had predicted put a crimp in the Plan Jesus had been imagining and hoping for. Therefore the only way that Jesus could imagine he would be arising and "Coming Again" in Judgment would be for him to rise from the dead, in the Jonas imagery, after three days time. This belief set is still aroused by Christians believing that Jesus will Return some day, announcing the End of the Age [Widespread Remembrance of who We are].
Love is symbolized as the Sun
Faith is symbolized as the Moon
When the Scriptures declare that in those days the sun and the moon shall be darkened, it means that people will be lovers of themselves absent faith - seeking to please themselves. What of love thy neighbor as thyself?
Stars are symbolized as heavenly virtues - and we see them falling
Just look around what do you see? This video is a sham. Who gives a rats ass about what some singer thinks - this is HERO worship - a big no-no. Thou shalt have no other gods before me - Idolatry.
Are we like sheep - led astray.
Love is the Lion - the lion laying down with the lamb. Faith is the lamb. You might say Adam is the Sun / Eve is the Moon. The two - Love and Faith - are One. Else there is one double-minded. The will struggles to find purpose absent Love. Faith just won't cut the mustard all alone.
Love brings forth the "tender herb" - the deed. Notice the Sadducees DON'T believe in life after death - thus they live for today - loving themselves absent faith. We see that love is expressed in deeds. Jesus told us IF you love me - THEN keep my commandments. And we see that faith too is dead absent deeds.
I love that our Father is from the SHOW ME state. This lip service is no good.
Let me break it down further:
Love SERVES - Husband
Faith SUBMITS - Wife
The greatest in the Kingdom of God is your servant! The King of kings - SERVED us all. Consider that is why I submit in trust to The Word my King, my Creator and my Redeemer. Love does not say - what's in it for me - love serves without the necessity of repayment. Therefore just like Faith is dead absent deeds - so too is love dead absent deeds.
Nevertheless we see the woman in rebellion - the congregation. Is it no wonder? The husbandmen [leadership] hate her and seek to use her for whatever vile perversion they can dream up. She can't imagine there is another way so she keeps on coming back for more. He says WHAT'S MY NAME BABY - and as he abuses her - she says :such and such CODE found in court case BLANK vs. BLANK.....
He smiles and says "yep she is all mine". Where now is love and faith? I see a scared little girl and an abusive man. Pathetic isn't it?
Shalom,
Michael Joseph
You have a way with images MJ!
I think you have described what was agitating me (but only a little) about the video. It was an endorsement! The Christian host was using a marvelous lyricist and vocalist to plug Christianity.
I suppose the video doesn't get into detail on Bono's perspectives on the Bible. However, its great to know that he's not gone off the secular cliff. Anyone that knows the meaning of the name Yshua/Yashua/Jesus (Greek-ized) knows the connection with to the name of "the Father". The Father brings into manifestation that which his children require, desire or need.
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The worthwhile point: someone that I've listened make music since U2 - Boy (album) came out has stuck to his guns without being twisted up in Satanism or utter depravity. Roman-ism/Westianity aside, the original doctrines aren't Roman creations.
The genealogy at Luke 3 even lists Adam as a 'son of God' (Luke 3:38).Quote:
Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
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Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
From what I gather, Muslims are taught the idea of a God not having any sons (seems analogous to a type of alienation--for them). Often, if the opportunity arises they have evidenced preferring a proof to the contrary from the OT. Always they would eagerly recall the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego and their encounter with Nebuchadnezzar...
Even then there was an enmity between a Babylonian king and believers.Quote:
Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellers, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God
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The idea of a son of God isn't new to the NT as some I've come along might insist. Its definitely not a strange idea to the Greek or Roman Pantheons. Even these days sovereign states or the People are regarded to have 'sons' or 'children' (see parens patrie or son of the people)
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For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (Romans 8:14)
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Therefore be imitators (Gr. word is 'imitators') of God, as beloved children (Eph. 5:1)
The term "Christianity" (relates to the word for 'anointed' no?) is loaded term (has so many meanings that it can be dangerous especially with unlearned, homicidal fanatics running around) especially being that the followers of Simon Magus/Simonians called themselves "Christian". It seems clear that the doctrines taught by Y'shua didn't come from Rome. St. Patrick of Irish holiday fame is said to not have been a Roman Catholic. Much evidence shows that Rome (even after Constantine) was opposed to the non-Roman scripture-centric ecclesia that had spread into areas like northern Africa ala Mark the Evangelist (ca. 43 AD) predating Constantine and Islam by many moons (about 600 years!). There seems to be much evidence that Rome eventually set out to destroy or undermine Mark's work there (and most everywhere else). The destruction of Nubian Christian kingdoms might be very much related to the Arab-Muslim African slave trade. In contrast, the English forbade enslavement of Christians (again the meaning can vary)--whether African or otherwise (funny how Farrakhan and others fail to mention this). To repeat: enslavement of African Christians was and is still against English law. On that note, movies like Belle are deceptive in that they aim to retroactively project the post-Civil-War USA's idea of 'racism' back in time on England.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Merrill
The Luke 3 genealogy is quite telling and I suspect Y'shua was very much aware of this. I also suspect Y'shua was fully aware of Genesis 1:26-27 (Sefer Bereshit). Y'shua clearly wasn't aiming to establish the typical 'worldly kingdom' (Pentecost 33 AD was pertinent to the coronation encoded at Ephesians 1--a heavenly throne rather than an earthly throne --see Jeremiah 22:28-30; Acts 2:34-36; Ephesians 1 & 2; Luke 24:49).
Could it be that an earthly throne of David was never part of Y'shua's mission?Quote:
Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come. ... And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Is it not interesting that the Crusade players didn't show up until about 1,000 years after 66AD-70AD? Evidence gives credence to the coronation encoded at Ephesians chapter 1 to have occurred over 1,033 years before the Crusades (~33AD). Jerusalem is said to have been taken by "Roman Catholic Europe" in 1099 (or about 1033 +66 years after Pentecost Day 33 AD). The notion of the Crusades having to do with Y'shua's mission doesn't seem to add up. I suppose that I type rather neutrally as an observer simply looking at facts.Quote:
Just for time perspectives, it is said that Rome was built in 753BC. The encounter of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego with Nebuchadnezzar is said to have occurred around 585 BC (just about 170 years later)--and not at Rome.
That might be why an earthly throne wasn't his target. See also: A Brief Explanation of the Sword in Luke 22:36 and Why would a king ride a donkey instead of a warhorse (Zechariah 9:9-10)?. Those who attacked him missed the entire point and that helped things work out as planned (see also Chariots In the Clouds). Y'shua's eyes were on something far more significant and valuable than what they had their eyes on. Also, just because some organization attempted to incorporate Y'shua into their 'portfolio' and project Mithraism onto him--that doesn't make it so. If Y'shua expected a big battle in the carnal sense, obviously two carnal swords wouldn't have been enough. Also, a warhorse would have been the choice 'ride' instead of a donkey. If one sees the bigger picture as to who destroyed or allowed the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple, things become more lucid.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Merrill
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- The Fiery Furnace
- The Church History of Ethiopia (Geddes 1696)
- Adoption and the Bible
- Cleansing of Joshua the High Priest
- King Felipe VI of Spain (current claimant to title King of Jerusalem)
- Ireland’s narrow escape from the Roman Empire (clarification here)
- Why Tarry In Jerusalem?
- Two Sons of Oil
- The Greatest Hoax
- Who Was Cyrus Scofield?
- Is Zechariah 11:12-13 a Messianic prophecy?
- A Brief Explanation of the Sword in Luke 22:36
- re: David Al-Roy / Menahem ben Duji (alleged to be the "King David" (12th century) actually associated with the famous six-pointed star or hexagram--not to be confused with the ancient king of Israel)
- Chariots in the Clouds
BONO can't be trusted.
He called his charity ONE because 1% percent is all the charity gets.
An anti-poverty charity started by Irish U2 vocalist Bono is being forced to account for its practices after it was revealed that only a tiny small portion of the massive amount of charities money it raises ever reaches those for whom the charity was extended.
The name of Bono's charity is ONE, and some people are saying that Bono set it up as little more than a place where he would be able to appoint his own friends and family in order to give them high paying jobs so that they don't have to mooch off HIS good fortune for the rest of their lives!
Just as an example, ONE raked in 10 million pounds in 2008, but handed out only 118,000 pounds to "worthy causes". Meanwhile, at least 5 million pounds went to pay bloated salaries to chums and fam.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-charity.html
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ONE has been criticized for its response to a book by African economist Dambisa Moyo, Dead Aid: Why Aid Is Not Working and How There Is a Better Way for Africa,[29] which was published in January 2009. Moyo accused ONE of mischaracterizing her views. She says that she is against only government aid, not "their kind of aid".[30] However, ONE argues that governmental development assistance "plays a critical role in the fight against extreme poverty and disease". In June 2009 Dambisa Moyo told former U.S. presidential Republican speech writer Peter Robinson during a Hoover Institute sponsored Uncommon Knowledge interview that "the harshest thing that has happened [in terms of responses to her 2009 book Dead Aid], Bono's and Bob Geldof's organization, called One, who I had tried to have a number of meetings with before the book came out, about what the theses of the book were, launched a very vitriolic attack against me. To the point that they were calling organizations ahead of my meetings and media appointments and sent a letter to African NGOs claiming, basically, painting me as a genocidal maniac trying to kill African babies. In other words, trying to get Africans to be against me. To me, that was not really fostering dialogue."
In September 2010, it was reported that ONE used only 1.2% of their funds for charitable causes. However, according to a spokesperson, ONE does not provide programs on the ground but instead is an advocacy campaign for their funding. It was also stated that the organization does not fundraise or accept donations and receives most of its funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
On that note, its puzzling how few people realize the terrible things perpetrated against the people on African soil from the disease intentionally introduced to the destruction of farmable land (by the Nazi's) to the UN/World Bank/IMF policies that have perpetuated poverty to the wars and PSYOPS that displace millions: then they wonder why "Somolians" or the like show up in their countries are refugees and then when the Somalis or others are ostracized and locked out of opportunity and forced engage in questionable activity to survive or prosper "no one knows why". The riddle of poverty among so-called Christian congregations in the USA is puzzling too: as in how in view of the things Y'shua taught can a congregation of 200 could have 3 millionaires with an abundance of wealth and anyone in the congregation could have financial troubles of any kind. Care-taking that ought to be in the congregations rather than in the State--is instead often deferred to the secular system.Quote:
ONE uses a number of highly visible methods to reach out to the general public, promote its message, and encourage advocacy actions. ONE does not ask for public donations, stating: "We're not asking for your money. We're asking for your voice."
That the One Campaign is a 'charity mover' rather than a charity --it would make sense if little of their funding goes direct to charity.
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before McGrath there was the classic work “The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism” by Max Weber (1904-5) that demonstrated this link. It is not great leap to make the connection. It may be unfair to blame Calvin himself but Calvinism as a social movement as well as a theology certainly has played an instrumental role in exacerbating not only the rise of nations and the growth of capital but also the spread of debt and hence poverty. (Source)
People quick to knock Y'shua and true believers might do well to realize that Calvinism served to steer congregations away from the scriptures. Calvinism AFAIK isn't based on Y'shua's teaching. The Reformation threatened to lock usury out of European Christian society--the writings of John Calvin (Cauin's) served to keep a door open for usury (see also "redemption for lawful money").Quote:
One school of thought attributes Calvinism with setting the stage for the later development of capitalism in northern Europe. In this view, elements of Calvinism represented a revolt against the medieval condemnation of usury and, implicitly, of profit in general.[citation needed] Such a connection was advanced in influential works by R. H. Tawney(1880–1962) and by Max Weber (1864–1920).
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Hmmm..I wonder if there is any link between Calvinism (Cauinism/Cohenism) and the Federal Reserve System. If only more USA-ians and Americans would wake up and realize that excessive profiteering is a type of fraud.Quote:
One school of thought attributes Calvinism with setting the stage for the later development of capitalism in northern Europe. In this view, elements of Calvinism represented a revolt against the medieval condemnation of usury and, implicitly, of profit in general.[citation needed] Such a connection was advanced in influential works by R. H. Tawney(1880–1962) and by Max Weber (1864–1920).
Related:
- Snopes - Bono of Contention
- The Religious Roots of Modern Poverty Policy
- Calvinist Economics - The Sin of Our Times
- On Usury and Other Dishonest Profit - Vix Pervenit Encyclical of Pope Benedict XIV promulgated on November 1, 1745
- The Economics of Calvin and Calvinism
- Usury, Calvinism, and Credit in Protestant England: from the Sixteenth Century to the Industrial Revolution
- The New Calvinists
- Forbidden Lawsuits