URGENT (By the 17th!) Redeem in Lawful Money for the first time with unemployment.

Hi, everyone! I've looked everywhere for a forum that could possibly help me out with filing for the 2020 tax extension on the 17th of this month. I've been trying to find the right advice and would need things told to me as clear as possible as I'm completely new to this and don't have a lot of time left to get it done. I'm always willing to definitely learn more about lawful money and the like, but for now, I just want to make sure I redeem PROPERLY by next week - confidently - without any mistakes or issues.

So with that said, here's my situation.

I've been on direct deposit "pandemic unemployment" for the past year and have never been on unemployment before, and typically had family accountant do taxes. Never really did them myself.

From what I gathered, the 1099-G that New York State gave me is considered income and taxable, but considered the "government version" of unemployment income as one of their workers told me over the phone. I don't think this changes anything. I figured this could be usable with redeeming in lawful money, so this is what I've done so far with this 1099-G that I printed out from their website.

I put the 1099-G through TurboTax and they gave me two amounts to send to federal and state locations, respectively. After the initial $10,200 of taxable pandemic unemployment income that is being forgiven for everyone, I'm left with $6xx to "NYS Income Tax" (state) and $2xx to "United States Treasury" (federal).

Here's what TurboTax is saying I need to send in for each, exactly as it reads...

2020 New York Tax Return:

My tax return - The official return for mailing is included in this printout. Remember to sign in and date the return.

My payment - Mail a check or money order of $6xx.xx, payable to "NYS Income Tax". Write last four digits of social and "2020 Form IT-201" on check. Mail return and check together.

My payment voucher - This printout includes a payment voucher (Form IT-201-V). Mail this voucher with payment.

Attach copies of federal form 1099-G to my tax return.

Then it gives a mailing address for it all, postmarked by the 17th, with correct postage.

2020 Federal Tax Return:

My tax return - The official return for mailing is included in this printout. Remember to sign in and date the return.

My payment - Mail a check or money order of $2xx.xx, payable to "United States Treasury". Write your social and "2020 Form 1040" on check. Mail return and check together.

A voucher is given by TurboTax, but does not explicitly say to include it in the mailing like it did for State Tax, nor include the 1099-G copy.

Then it gives a mailing address for it all, postmarked by the 17th, with correct postage.

IMPORTANT(?): On one of the printouts from TurboTax, it's telling me New York State requires this income tax return to be filed electronically by law. I'm not sure why it's saying that as it gave me the option not to file electronically on TurboTax, and I have everything printed already. Still confused by this, as it seems like they're still giving me the option.

I suppose that's all I have to share, and if any more general information is needed, I'll provide. I just want to get this done, as soon as possible, so I can have some peace of mind. I've been stressed about it lately. To anyone willing to help, thank you! Please make instructions clear as possible so there's no possible room for error.

Foremost - have you been making demand for lawful money?

How have you been receiving your pandemic unemployment? By direct deposit? So have you made demand on your bank's signature card?

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IMPORTANT(?): On one of the printouts from TurboTax, it's telling me New York State requires this income tax return to be filed electronically by law. I'm not sure why it's saying that as it gave me the option not to file electronically on TurboTax, and I have everything printed already. Still confused by this, as it seems like they're still giving me the option.

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The internal algorithms to TurboTax are impossible to work with. You disable them, then fill out the redeemed lawful money return and then submit it. Usually on paper in the mail, I hear. It is not tailored around redemption.

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Originally Posted by David Merrill

Foremost - have you been making demand for lawful money?

How have you been receiving your pandemic unemployment? By direct deposit? So have you made demand on your bank's signature card?



The internal algorithms to TurboTax are impossible to work with. You disable them, then fill out the redeemed lawful money return and then submit it. Usually on paper in the mail, I hear. It is not tailored around redemption.

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I have NOT been making demand for lawful money. Doing this now would be my first time.

I have been receiving my unemployment for a year through my bank account with direct deposit. My debit card is associated with this account, too.

I used TurboTax to know exactly what the State and Fed were asking of me after the initial $10,200 of the full amount of unemployment they are "forgiving" for everyone on it. I figured that's how I'll know what to redeem and have been given two amounts I can hopefully redeem as stated in my original post.

So I have a week from today to file, postmarked by the 17th. What can I do from here? Is it still possible so soon? Thanks!

(P.S. - Not sure if it matters, but I changed the name of my checking and savings accounts ONLINE to "Lawful Money Checking 12USC411" etc. just a few days ago.)

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Originally Posted by FRG

I have NOT been making demand for lawful money. Doing this now would be my first time.

I have been receiving my unemployment for a year through my bank account with direct deposit. My debit card is associated with this account, too.

I used TurboTax to know what exactly what the State and Fed were asking of me after the initial $10,200 of the full amount of unemployment they are "forgiving" for everyone on it. I figured that's how I'll know what to redeem and have been given two amounts I can hopefully redeem as stated in my original post.

So I have a week from today to file, postmarked by the 17th. What can I do from here? Is it still possible so soon? Thanks!

(P.S. - Not sure if it matters, but I changed the name of my checking and savings accounts ONLINE to "Lawful Money Checking 12USC411" etc. just a few days ago.)

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You should begin by making demand for lawful money. This step we call non-endorsement.

If you have been endorsing private credit from the Fed you are a member state bank and the SDR system has been banking on your signature bond toward national debt. You contribute to Special Drawing Rights. Search out "Fed Assets Current" and see Footnote 2 for yourself.

What you seem to be expecting is for UN intervention and adjustment in the IMF Trust Fund, because you (just now) discovered remedy?

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Originally Posted by David Merrill

You should begin by making demand for lawful money. This step we call non-endorsement.

If you have been endorsing private credit from the Fed you are a member state bank and the SDR system has been banking on your signature bond toward national debt. You contribute to Special Drawing Rights. Search out "Fed Assets Current" and see Footnote 2 for yourself.

What you seem to be expecting is for UN intervention and adjustment in the IMF Trust Fund, because you (just now) discovered remedy?

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So, simply put, how do I make a demand for lawful money on this unemployment and within only a week to learn?

What should I send back to them from what forms I've been given? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by FRG

So, simply put, how do I make a demand for lawful money on this unemployment and within only a week to learn?

What should I send back to them from what forms I've been given? Thanks.

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You have already accepted payment in private credit from the Fed. You can begin making your demand by going to your bank and signing the signature card with a demand.

Stay in honor. This means do not renege on your signature agreement.

Here is the new citation - the House instead of Cornell Law. You should wrap your mind around redemption before you start making claims.

Attachment 6611

Janet Louise YELLEN, known as the Secretary of the Treasury came off years on the Board of Governors of the Fed. She is the US Governor for the International Monetary Fund as expressed in the link above. So she can do the adjustments for you if you know how to frame your accusation.

Currently she and the USPS, and the Department of Justice are making it very difficult to get past the chain link fencing around the Treasury building. No hand delivery and even Registered Mail is failing. You can read about it recently here. But the bottom line is that I have no interest in getting that done for you. You have not enrolled in my Lesson Plan.

So I suggest you change your signature card and do this right. It will take time but time flies while you are enjoying redemption. Especially if you get off on the right foot. Rather than crying that your civics teacher and parents duped you into signing your estate (property rights) over to the rigors of debt (national).


P.S. Brace yourself. This is not so bad as you make it out - URGENT hurry to get a free lunch and all. Here is the suitor's message that accompanied the new pic of the stamp:

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Hey David, I appreciate your thoughts, and I'm ready for prosperity to envelop my life!

I agree redemption is of the mind as that is who we truly are!

Happy Sunday!

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Originally Posted by David Merrill

You have already accepted payment in private credit from the Fed. You can begin making your demand by going to your bank and signing the signature card with a demand.

Stay in honor. This means do not renege on your signature agreement.

Here is the new citation - the House instead of Cornell Law. You should wrap your mind around redemption before you start making claims.

Attachment 6611

Janet Louise YELLEN, known as the Secretary of the Treasury came off years on the Board of Governors of the Fed. She is the US Governor for the International Monetary Fund as expressed in the link above. So she can do the adjustments for you if you know how to frame your accusation.

Currently she and the USPS, and the Department of Justice are making it very difficult to get past the chain link fencing around the Treasury building. No hand delivery and even Registered Mail is failing. You can read about it recently here. But the bottom line is that I have no interest in getting that done for you. You have not enrolled in my Lesson Plan.

So I suggest you change your signature card and do this right. It will take time but time flies while you are enjoying redemption. Especially if you get off on the right foot. Rather than crying that your civics teacher and parents duped you into signing your estate (property rights) over to the rigors of debt (national).


P.S. Brace yourself. This is not so bad as you make it out - URGENT hurry to get a free lunch and all. Here is the suitor's message that accompanied the new pic of the stamp:

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So what you're saying, if I'm interpreting this correctly, is that by certifying my unemployment payments every week thus far, I cannot redeem in lawful money for the past year in this up and coming tax filing, correct?

Forgive me, but what is this signature card? My bank account itself? I sign the account itself with this verbiage and then I can somehow redeem? I can't write any lawful money verbiage on my current forms printed out from TurboTax without doing this?

This can be a lot for me, so I'm trying to understand this the best I can, step by step, so take it slow with me if you can. Thanks!

Hey FRiG.......there are ONLY 2 things you can do by the 17th......no.....make that 3


1) and 2) -- pay those 6xx.xx & 2xx.xx amounts owed

3) Go to your bank and sign the signature card with a demand for lawful money


You may encounter resistance from your bank to "alter" the current unilateral agreement......so plan B will be in store.

You have a lot to learn and alot of studying to do......redemption does not happen instantaneously.....you gotta LIVE IT like it was 2nd nature to you.

Frankly, from what I see, until you put this to practice & embrace it fully......your Fed tax return for tax year 2022 [spring of '23] might be the earliest you could apply your newly gained knowledge.

Like we say around here -- REDEMPTION IS BETWEEN YOUR EARS

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Originally Posted by ag maniac

Hey FRiG.......there are ONLY 2 things you can do by the 17th......no.....make that 3


1) and 2) -- pay those 6xx.xx & 2xx.xx amounts owed

3) Go to your bank and sign the signature card with a demand for lawful money


You may encounter resistance from your bank to "alter" the current unilateral agreement......so plan B will be in store.

You have a lot to learn and alot of studying to do......redemption does not happen instantaneously.....you gotta LIVE IT like it was 2nd nature to you.

Frankly, from what I see, until you put this to practice & embrace it fully......your Fed tax return for tax year 2022 [spring of '23] might be the earliest you could apply your newly gained knowledge.

Like we say around here -- REDEMPTION IS BETWEEN YOUR EARS

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Kinda ominous, but thanks for the response. I thought redeeming in lawful money was made out to be easy but I'm not getting a clear answer here in this thread unless there's more to it than I thought.

If I go to my bank and request this and there's "resistance" then what is "Plan B"?

Again, I don't want to dance around the subject. I like simple instructions. I'm not expecting everything to be understood by myself overnight (or in a week, like I tried) but from everything I heard about lawful money elsewhere, it can't be as complicated as what I'm taking from this entire thread so far - unless other sources of information that lead me here for answers have been overly simplified. I don't need anything verbose. Just practical application to put into use by myself.

Thanks. I'm always willing to learn more over time if that's what it takes, whenever that may be.

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Originally Posted by FRG

Kinda ominous, but thanks for the response. I thought redeeming in lawful money was made out to be easy but I'm not getting a clear answer here in this thread unless there's more to it than I thought.

If I go to my bank and request this and there's "resistance" then what is "Plan B"?

Again, I don't want to dance around the subject. I like simple instructions. I'm not expecting everything to be understood by myself overnight (or in a week, like I tried) but from everything I heard about lawful money elsewhere, it can't be as complicated as what I'm taking from this entire thread so far - unless other sources of information that lead me here for answers have been overly simplified. I don't need anything verbose. Just practical application to put into use by myself.

Thanks. I'm always willing to learn more over time if that's what it takes, whenever that may be.

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I thank you for your confusion. Others read here and learn.

The honorable thing to do, like Ag says, is to forget about a big refund of withholdings this year. And since partial years are discouraged, as they drive the IRS agent to recalculate your figures, the remainder of 2021 is out too. Withholdings form W-4 allows you to stop diversion of your pay but only after a year of full refund. So...

That means get your head wrapped around redemption during the remainder of 2021. In 2022 you will have a full year redeemed and in early 2023 at this time you will have a very simple 1040 tax return to receive full refund of the 2022 withholdings.

We could compel YELLEN to send you your withholdings only because she is in capacity to adjust the national debt by that small amount. Being that she served on the Fed Board that would be very scary for her, even for you. But that is more that I like money enough to work that as strategy - I regulate release valve systems for the highly compressed information infrastructure driving the illusion that debt has value or substance enough to underlie currency.

I have a photo taken by my process server of the chain link fencing around the front stairs of the Treasury. It is a few months old and they may be accepting process by hand delivery again. But my point is that the US Treasury is being manned by frightened people. Best be patient.

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Originally Posted by FRG

Kinda ominous, but thanks for the response. I thought redeeming in lawful money was made out to be easy but I'm not getting a clear answer here in this thread unless there's more to it than I thought.

If I go to my bank and request this and there's "resistance" then what is "Plan B"?

Again, I don't want to dance around the subject. I like simple instructions. I'm not expecting everything to be understood by myself overnight (or in a week, like I tried) but from everything I heard about lawful money elsewhere, it can't be as complicated as what I'm taking from this entire thread so far - unless other sources of information that lead me here for answers have been overly simplified. I don't need anything verbose. Just practical application to put into use by myself.

Thanks. I'm always willing to learn more over time if that's what it takes, whenever that may be.

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As you have found out, nobody is going to hold your hand or serve redemption to you on a platter.

Redemption is in between YOUR ears.......make it your own & OWN IT

You have 6 1/2 months to learn what you must do, then all of 2022 to put it into practice before filing in spring of 2023

I will point you to a 104 page thread on another forum which has much good information. Besides other posters, an "Anonymous Coward" by the user number 71408469 is none other than Martin Earl. Martin Earl OWNS it, and practices DEFENDING it without effort......as should you.

Learn some things and come back here to ask more pointed question so YOU MAY OWN IT ALSO !!


https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...age1304915/pg1

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Originally Posted by ag maniac

As you have found out, nobody is going to hold your hand or serve redemption to you on a platter.

Redemption is in between YOUR ears.......make it your own & OWN IT

You have 6 1/2 months to learn what you must do, then all of 2022 to put it into practice before filing in spring of 2023

I will point you to a 104 page thread on another forum which has much good information. Besides other posters, an "Anonymous Coward" by the user number 71408469 is none other than Martin Earl. Martin Earl OWNS it, and practices DEFENDING it without effort......as should you.

Learn some things and come back here to ask more pointed question so YOU MAY OWN IT ALSO !!


https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...age1304915/pg1

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I mean, I was just hoping it was as easy as people who preach Lawful Money elsewhere make it out to be so it could be applied within a week of learning the proper steps. I was hoping I would find talking to actual practitioners instead of the bits of information I'm finding scattered everywhere, but it's almost like it's in a shroud of secrecy and riddles. lol

I was never expecting anyone else to file for me or "hold my hand," rather than I just wanted answers to something I would think anyone who practices it would've wanted to make as clear-cut as possible for me as a novice, with the steps, etc. if it's so simple and great and helps the taxation lunacy end altogether.

Is it not meant to be simple as I'm understanding? If it isn't, now I know.

I appreciate the leads to other sources to educate me, but I also thought doing something like this would've gotten me more direct instructions and most importantly, clarity.

Thanks for the link. I'll read it soon.

Get started. Get a stamp and start making your demand. Today.

When you endorse private credit your paycheck amount goes on to the national debt. You become a state member bank by signature. So that money is accounted for into SDR's. That is all.

Start today and technically your tomorrow's paycheck is redeemed lawful money. But tax years go January 1 to January 1 so you would have five months endorsed private credit and seven months of withholdings due. So in January you would have amounts on your income 1040 that would not add up to what is reported by your employer. This would confuse the computer, and in turn an IRS agent who will not calculate out a partial year for you. He would simply disagree.

So start today. But to stay in honor you will not be getting your withholdings refunded until the end of 2022.

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Originally Posted by David Merrill

Get started. Get a stamp and start making your demand. Today.

When you endorse private credit your paycheck amount goes on to the national debt. You become a state member bank by signature. So that money is accounted for into SDR's. That is all.

Start today and technically your tomorrow's paycheck is redeemed lawful money. But tax years go January 1 to January 1 so you would have five months endorsed private credit and seven months of withholdings due. So in January you would have amounts on your income 1040 that would not add up to what is reported by your employer. This would confuse the computer, and in turn an IRS agent who will not calculate out a partial year for you. He would simply disagree.

So start today. But to stay in honor you will not be getting your withholdings refunded until the end of 2022.

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I'll get the stamp.

But what I want to know is, how would this be applied to direct deposit unemployment income? Because that's how I'd really be able to start "today." I don't plan on being unemployed forever, but I'm still curious as to how it would be done, circling back to my initial post and question involving my 1099-G. Thanks, David.

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Originally Posted by David Merrill

Get started. Get a stamp and start making your demand. Today.

When you endorse private credit your paycheck amount goes on to the national debt. You become a state member bank by signature. So that money is accounted for into SDR's. That is all.

Start today and technically your tomorrow's paycheck is redeemed lawful money. But tax years go January 1 to January 1 so you would have five months endorsed private credit and seven months of withholdings due. So in January you would have amounts on your income 1040 that would not add up to what is reported by your employer. This would confuse the computer, and in turn an IRS agent who will not calculate out a partial year for you. He would simply disagree.

So start today. But to stay in honor you will not be getting your withholdings refunded until the end of 2022.

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I'll get the stamp.

But what I want to know is, how would this be applied to direct deposit unemployment income? Because that's how I'd really be able to start "today." I don't plan on being unemployed forever, but I'm still curious as to how it would be done, circling back to my initial post and question involving my 1099-G. Thanks, David.

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You are already started.

Update your signature card at your bank. Especially considering that it is US government "stimulus" backing the COVID Unemployment bennies you might invite an attack on redemption in general by endorsing and simultaneously demanding refund under redemption. You would quite literally be compelling the IRS to cook the books. Bad idea. If you want to try it though, that would be directly with US Governor for the IMF Janet Louise YELLEN.

When the clerk has your new signature card ready to sign, request it be on paper and sign with your stamp. He or she might say that you sign digitally or not at all. Here is where you be ready to walk away. Don't close the account until you have another set up somewhere else, opened with your demand stamp signature. In a pinch, if you can only sign digitally write clearly, "Lawful Money." And sign any transaction like that. My big point is that there are a lot of banks desperate to do business with you. If you get into a pinch it is only because you are behaving ignorantly.

All the law requires of you is to make your demand.

I am presuming that you are emotionally mature enough to understand that you will be generating behaviors, that are based in fear. This is because you are confused. When you come out the other end of redemption you will see. This is simplifying things portrayed as so highly complex that only experts can understand (absurdities like national and sustainable debt).

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Originally Posted by David Merrill

You are already started.

Update your signature card at your bank. Especially considering that it is US government "stimulus" backing the COVID Unemployment bennies you might invite an attack on redemption in general by endorsing and simultaneously demanding refund under redemption. You would quite literally be compelling the IRS to cook the books. Bad idea. If you want to try it though, that would be directly with US Governor for the IMF Janet Louise YELLEN.

When the clerk has your new signature card ready to sign, request it be on paper and sign with your stamp. He or she might say that you sign digitally or not at all. Here is where you be ready to walk away. Don't close the account until you have another set up somewhere else, opened with your demand stamp signature. In a pinch, if you can only sign digitally write clearly, "Lawful Money." And sign any transaction like that. My big point is that there are a lot of banks desperate to do business with you. If you get into a pinch it is only because you are behaving ignorantly.

All the law requires of you is to make your demand.

I am presuming that you are emotionally mature enough to understand that you will be generating behaviors, that are based in fear. This is because you are confused. When you come out the other end of redemption you will see. This is simplifying things portrayed as so highly complex that only experts can understand (absurdities like national and sustainable debt).

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Sounds good. I'll look into this immediately and prepare myself for next year, as suggested.

Once this Lawful Money account is setup, will the verbiage be required on all forms and paychecks or just for consistency's sake? I'm assuming, if I were to ever get a stimulus again with a Lawful Money account properly set up, I automatically won't have any problem demanding anything that enters the account directly as far as gov't stimulus goes. Does that sound right?

And I'll look into Janet Louise out of my own curiosity, too. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by FRG

Sounds good. I'll look into this immediately and prepare myself for next year, as suggested.

Once this Lawful Money account is setup, will the verbiage be required on all forms and paychecks or just for consistency's sake? I'm assuming, if I were to ever get a stimulus again with a Lawful Money account properly set up, I automatically won't have any problem demanding anything that enters the account directly as far as gov't stimulus goes. Does that sound right?

And I'll look into Janet Louise out of my own curiosity, too. Thanks!

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My stamp is my signature. On important docs I wipe my right thumb on the red ink and press it to the page too. Unique identifier. With digital pads I write, "Lawful Money."

But that is just me. If it causes problems or offense I can adapt, compromise or adjust. My brain works like that. It is redeemed from the conditioning and rigors, and absurdity of debt.

Financial Redemption the action of regaining income (taxes) or gaining possession of something in exchange for payment (tax return), or just clearing a debt thats been put in your head (between the ears) as the ag man has plainly advised figuring this out isn't not as verbose as loading up with lawful money Merrill remember hand holding costs money if your not much for holding hands then your hands are free dig in and own that practical application to put into use for good. simple or difficult it wouldn't work if u cant explain it to yourself first

Thats a compliment Lawful M M (Gringo)

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Originally Posted by xparte

Thats a compliment Lawful M M (Gringo)

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Thank you.