What makes a person a taxpayer?
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What makes a person a taxpayer?
Believing that "you" are a 'taxpayer'.Quote:
Originally Posted by powder
Is it just a belief or an implicated contractual obligation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph
Some things which might give a person taxpayer or taxable entity status:
[1] In Canada, USA, UK, NZ, Australia, etc. applying for a tax ID or the like or some similar revenue oriented account (note: a Social Security Account Number is not a taxpayer ID although the digits can be used as an account number at the IRS; in Canada at the CRA) (can be sales/GST, VAT, income, withholding, provisional, child support, fuel-related, etc.);
[2] "Imprescription" or "prescription" by making a purchase at or through retailer with sales tax ID --you might be paying tax under their vendor license (for them);
[3] In the U.S. completing a W-4 with respect to employment;
[4] Holding an interest-bearing bank account where a bank's withholding liability might be invoked under tax regulations;
[5] signing some contract to agree to pay tax whether for someone else or otherwise.
The taxpayer or taxable entity status is one thing. The events giving rise to taxable income or assessments being a separate and subsequent matter.
Who will take the stand and swear, under oath or affirmation, that i; a man, am a taxpayer?
Typically there is some form with some certification made under penalties of perjury. Perhaps the person or its/his/her fiduciaries first becomes part of the extant tax court before the person in question becomes a taxpayer or taxable entity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph
Certification without verification in viva voce is just dead paper; and it is 'you' who gives it life and power.Quote:
Originally Posted by allodial
There are those who view handwriting, print and typewriting as a memorialization of events. Also, typically those forms are in boxes. A printed promissory note, for example, being memorialization of the agreement or meeting of minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph
i agree; yet who is memorializing? Let him/her come forth and verify, for the record, said memorial; leaving NO DOUBT as to the veracity of what is written.Quote:
Originally Posted by allodial
If John and Robert write down their agreement to show up at a particular spot and do something. The writing down is the memorialization. The written agreement tends to be referred to as a "contract".Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph
Attachment 1539
Related: Law of Contracts (Hornbook Series) [Hardcover].
if the writing is the agreement, isnt the tax return one's own admission/certification that their person is a tax payer?
With the, say, 1040 the Revenue Agent is effectively making an assessment before the U.S. Tax Court. IMHO, it important to keep the potential depth and breadth of the paper trail in mind since typically a person isn't going to file a 1040 or a 1041 or an 1120 without some kind of W9, SS-4, SS-5, W8, I-9, W-4, 1099 and such being filed. And it is very much a court of record: the 1040 and the postmarks are records. Losing track of the other evidence I suspect would prevent someone from seeing the remedy due to inability to see the cause. A bank signature card or even paychecks could be part of the evidentiary trail.Quote:
Originally Posted by powder
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Originally Posted by allodial
Contract book nice allodial and engaging quote Anthony Joseph.Quote:
Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
i agree; yet who is memorializing? Let him/her come forth and verify, for the record, said memorial; leaving NO DOUBT as to the veracity of what is written.
Taxpayer Identification Numbers
• Social Security Number "SSN" :mad:
• Employer Identification Number "EIN"
• Individual Taxpayer Identification Number "ITIN"
• Taxpayer Identification Number for Pending U.S. Adoptions "ATIN"
• Preparer Taxpayer Identification Number "PTIN"
Note: The temporary IRS Numbers previously assigned are no longer valid.
http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Inter...-Numbers-(TIN)
Tax Identification Number Vs. Social Security Number by Louise Balle, Demand Media Identification
A tax identification number is a nine-digit ID that government authorities use to identify a business or individual. The tax identification number for an individual is called his Social Security number. The tax identification number for a business entity is usually called an Employer Identification Number (EIN) or just a TIN. In short, a Social Security number is a type of tax identification number, but a tax identification number isn't always a Social Security number.
Purpose. The main purpose of any tax identification number is to allow the business owner to pay taxes on behalf of the business. When filing business taxes, the company owner must include this number on her tax forms. Banks require a tax identification number to open an account in the business name. Suppliers and customers sometimes ask for a tax identification number in order to establish an account with the company or cut a check for payment for tax reasons. http://smallbusiness.chron.com/tax-i...mber-4459.html
National identification number From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Not to be confused with Personal identification number.
A national identification number, national identity number, or national insurance number is used by the governments of many countries as a means of tracking their citizens, permanent residents, and temporary residents for the purposes of work, taxation, government benefits, health care, and other governmentally-related functions. The number will appear on an identity document issued by a country.
United States Main article: Social Security number.
In the United States, a Selective Service Number must be applied for by all male citizens turning age 18. An optional national identity number is the Social Security number (SSN) is a nine-digit number issued to U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and temporary (working) residents. Its original purpose was to identify individuals for the purposes of Social Security, and it is now also used to track individuals for taxation purposes. There is no requirement to have a SSN if it is not required for Social Security or taxation purposes, but in practice one is required for many other purposes, for example to open a bank account or apply for a driving license, so that nearly all U.S. citizens and residents now have one. In recent years the SSN has therefore become a de facto national identification number
In the United States, a Social Security number (SSN) is a nine-digit number issued to U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and temporary (working) residents under section 205(c)(2) of the Social Security Act, codified as 42 U.S.C. § 405(c)(2). The number is issued to an individual by the Social Security Administration, an independent agency of the United States government. Its primary purpose is to track individuals for Social Security purposes.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...#United_States
A Social Security number may be obtained by applying on Form SS-5, "Application for A Social Security Number Card".[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...#United_States
Getting an ID Card
What if you need to show an ID, but you don't drive and don't need a license? Fortunately, you don't need to go through the motions of getting a driver license just to prove your age or identity. You can get a Utah photo identification card for $18 without taking any tests, and you don't need an appointment. Use the ID to cash checks, open accounts, get on an airplane, buy alcohol, use your credit card, and so forth?everything but drive.
How to Apply for an ID Card
• Visit your local driver license field office with the following:
o A completed application.
o Proof of identity.
o Your Social Security number. :mad:
o Two documents proving your Utah address if it differs from the address on your current Utah record.
o Proof of legal or lawful presence.
o Proof of name change, if applicable.
o Payment for $18 fee.
Utah ID cards expire on your 21st birthday if you're under 21, or every 5 years if you're over 21. A parent or guardian must sign off for applicants under 16.
If you must surrender your driver's license due to age or medical reasons, you're eligible for a free ID card. To apply you must appear in person.
http://www.dmv.org/ut-utah/id-cards.php
Important changes to the Utah license or identification card that will affect you!
If you are a U.S. Citizen, U.S. National or Permanent Resident Alien, you must provide the following documentation to obtain or renew a License, Learner Permit, Identification Card or Commercial Driver License. http://publicsafety.utah.gov/dld/doc...re9-13_000.pdf
Does the revenue agent go before the tax court or are they making the assessment at their desk? If you have to have a meeting with a revenue agent and informing it to follow the 1040 and do what the law tells you to do and redeem these frn's now does the revenue agent go to the irs lawyers and ask them for advise? With the W9, SS-4, SS-5, W8, I-9, W-4, 1099 and stamped paychecks and such being filed does that not keep track of the frn's your redeeming And is it very much a court of record?Quote:
Originally Posted by allodial
I suspect it would prevent the revenue agent from seeing the remedy due to inability to see the law and take matters into their own hands.
Does the revenue agent have the power to override the United States Code is the codification by subject matter of the general and permanent laws of the United States?
It is divided by broad subjects into 51 titles.
And what information are they asking for here as identification ? http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf Your social security number?
On what contract are two signatures found, memorializing a meeting of the minds in agreement, that one is a taxpayer?Quote:
Originally Posted by allodial
If one files a 1040 form, then one augments and supports the "evidence trail" of the person's involvement in the tax realm. So I suppose in that regard the person is a taxpayer, potentially, if the person creates a taxable event.
A contract intends to formalize an agreement between two or more parties, in relation to a particular subject. Contracts can cover an extremely broad range of matters, including the sale of goods or real property, the terms of employment or of an independent contractor relationship, the settlement of a dispute, and ownership of intellectual property developed as part of a work for hire.
The Elements of a Contract
Typically, in order to be enforceable, a contract must involve the following elements:
A "Meeting of the Minds" (Mutual Consent)
The parties to the contract have a mutual understanding of what the contract covers. For example, in a contract for the sale of a "mustang", the buyer thinks he will obtain a car and the seller believes he is contracting to sell a horse, there is no meeting of the minds and the contract will likely be held unenforceable.
Offer and Acceptance
The contract involves an offer (or more than one offer) to another party, who accepts the offer. For example, in a contract for the sale of a piano, the seller may offer the piano to the buyer for $1,000.00. The buyer's acceptance of that offer is a necessary part of creating a binding contract for the sale of the piano.
In order to be valid, the parties to a contract must exchange something of value. In the case of the sale of a piano, the buyer receives something of value in the form of the piano, and the seller receives the frn money.
While the validity of consideration may be subject to attack on the basis that it is illusory (e.g., one party receives only what the other party was already obligated to provide), or that there is a failure of consideration (e.g., the consideration received by one party is essentially worthless), these defenses will not let a party to a contract escape the consequences of bad negotiation. For example, if a seller enters into a contract to sell a piano for $100, and later gets an offer from somebody else for $1,000, the seller can't revoke the contract on the basis that the piano was worth a lot more than he bargained to receive.
A typical "breach of contract" action, the party alleging the breach will recite that it performed all of its duties under the contract, whereas the other party failed to perform its duties or obligations.
In order to be enforceable, a contract cannot violate "public policy". :)
There are generally three key things involved in the process: the problem, the player, and the policy. The problem is the issue that needs to be addressed, the player is the individual or group that is influential in forming a plan to address the problem in question, and the policy is the finalized course of action decided upon by the government.
If the subject matter of a contract is illegal, you cannot enforce the contract. A contract for the sale of illegal drugs, for example, violates public policy and is not enforceable.
Absent proof of the terms of the contract, a party may be unable to enforce the contract or may be forced to settle for less than the original bargain. Thus, even when there is not an opportunity to draft up a formal contract, it is good practice to always make some sort of writing, signed by both parties, to memorialize the key terms of an agreement.
The tax ID has value. The right to work has value. The driver license has value. The social security card has value.
I agree they absolutely have valueQuote:
Originally Posted by allodial
An endorsement does not have to be in ink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph
'IRS' and 'United States' cannot speak or do anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by powder
Only man can make a claim against another man.
Only man can rob property from another man.
Only man can interfere with the rights of another man.
Only man can wrong another man.
If you give life to the 'office' or 'cloak' that a man tries to hide behind (by agreeing that you hear or see it) when causing you harm or injury then you also give life to the realm of codes, statutes and 'legalese' relating to said office or cloak.
Can you decipher code? Do you understand legalese? Do you believe statutes bind you? If someone is making a claim against you, that someone MUST appear and verify in living voice said claim on the record else there is no claim and no case.
Plaintiff must appear. Plaintiff must verify claim and press the record. A man has a right to face and question his accuser in open court. This is ancient law which is still superior if a man invokes it properly. No one but the claimant may testify if a man knows how to hold and keep his court. One without firsthand knowledge is merely speaking hearsay. Paper is valueless without a man to verify what is written on it on the record in open court.
That is how a common law court of record operates if a man requires it and knows how to keep it, regardless of who is moving the claim or what jurisdiction the claimant begins from.
I am in the process of learning this and applying it; I haven't mastered it as of yet.
My biggest challenge is finding reading material that teaches a man/woman on invoking common law, understanding jurisdiction and bringing a claim forward. Any suggested books or reading material.
And why would one bring common law into a court of equity?Quote:
Originally Posted by froze25
I don't think you would but wouldn't you bring an equity action into a common law claim?
It might help to first determine what common law and equity are respectively (as in theory or philosophy) and then consider practice, pleadings or procedure. A visit to a law library might be quite helpful. Consider that if a case was against you: * if it were an equity case you might get fined or ordered to stay away from a certain person; * if it were a common law case you might be hung. What is your favorite?Quote:
Originally Posted by froze25
Like with any topic, there might be books that are theoretical (or philosophical) in nature. There might also be those books which pertain to practice (or praxis or application). Perhaps that might help. It might be worth noting that "common law" might be relative to a given society. Also, the rules, regulations or systematic of a court tend to be referred to as "procedure".
Related terms: pleading, practice, equity, equitable maxims, common law.
Google, library, yahoo, duckduckgo, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by froze25
Here you go froze25.Quote:
Originally Posted by froze25
James Graham Cannon
https://openlibrary.org/authors/OL36..._Graham_Cannon
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Jam...on++&b=&fr=ie8
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr...=relevancerank
Social Credit By Clifford Hugh Douglas http://nationalvanguard.org/books/so...ch_douglas.pdf
There is a reason why those who act for 'IRS' direct you to "petition" the "tax court". This is an intentional "flip tactic" to get you to bear the burden of proof. You must now prove you "don't owe" instead of whoever made the initial claim proving you "do owe". As petitioner, you become the Plaintiff, with all the burden, and the Defendant (IRS) need not appear or testify in that specific court setting and jurisdiction. Take a wild guess who will win 99.99% of the time?
Instead, why not make a good faith effort to settle the matter on the private side by requiring the claimant to make a verifiable claim of the alleged debt due? Keep a record of your efforts and give notification to the one who will move the claim that you will require the Plaintiff appear and verify the claim against you on the record under oath or affirmation. If the Plaintiff does not appear to verify the claim, the moving party is committing barratry; a trespass which is a wrong causing harm to a man and injury to his property.
The key is to hold and keep your court of record at common law as a man without allowing the jurisdiction to flip back to statutory/civil/etc. Remember, you are not "you", so don't ever answer to it; even in writing.
The letters/notices from 'IRS' always state that "you" owe a debt in the body of the letter.
i; a man, am NOT "you".
And those letters/notices always begin with "Dear Taxpayer:". You = taxpayer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph
I have a friend who recently obtained an official copy of his purported application for a Social Security Number (also known as an "SS-5" Form). At the bottom of the Form it read "Internal Revenue Service". Internal Revenue Service only deals with taxpayers, therefore the Social Security Account Number must also be a taxpayer ID number from its inception.Quote:
Originally Posted by allodial
You signifies plural/duality; meaning a man who acts in capacity of a person or an office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
i; a man, am NOT "you".