Just A Review

[allodial]

Well they are "Federal Reserve Notes". That is the first key. Another key is that checks printed by check printers do not make reference to lawful money however the "$" is allegedly a symbol for lawful money. What may also cause problems is that clearinghouse certificates could be under the National Banking Act be 'deemed' to be lawful money under certain circumstances (for certain reserve purposes?) and it might be so today and that might give rise to a kind of double talk. And that might explain why you could give a bank a PN in lawful money and they cut you a check in clearinghouse points.

I'd tend to say that the primary lawful money in circulation today in the United States of America are negotiable promissory notes denominated in "lawful money" and corporate bonds denominated in lawful money and their electronic equivalents. If checks are lawful money then checks, money orders and the like would be such--in any case it is likely that they make up the currency.

As for "Father's trustee"... have you ever considered the role that any of the following play in the monetary system or what their duties are and how they might relate to your prosperity:
[*] Secretary of United States Department of the Treasury
[*] any municipal, circuit or district court clerk
[*] the commissioner of Social Security
[*] the secretary of state of each U.S. state, district or territory
[*] any city or county clerk (not necessarily court clerks)
[*] the chief counsel or president of any state bank or U.S. bank.

IMHO, fixation on printed notes these days is a colorful distraction. Much is done via book entry and by transfers made electronically.

[Anthony Joseph]

Well they are "Federal Reserve Notes". That is the first key. Another key is that checks printed by check printers do not make reference to lawful money however the "$" is allegedly a symbol for lawful money. What may also cause problems is that clearinghouse certificates could be under the National Banking Act be 'deemed' to be lawful money under certain circumstances (for certain reserve purposes?) and it might be so today and that might give rise to a kind of double talk. And that might explain why you could give a bank a PN in lawful money and they cut you a check in clearinghouse points.

I'd tend to say that the primary lawful money in circulation today in the United States of America are negotiable promissory notes denominated in "lawful money" and corporate bonds denominated in lawful money and their electronic equivalents. If checks are lawful money then checks, money orders and the like would be such--in any case it is likely that they make up the currency.

As for "Father's trustee"... have you ever considered the role that any of the following play in the monetary system or what their duties are and how they might relate to your prosperity:[*] Secretary of United States Department of the Treasury[*] any municipal, circuit or district court clerk[*] the commissioner of Social Security[*] the secretary of state of each U.S. state, district or territory[*] any city or county clerk (not necessarily court clerks)[*] the chief counsel or president of any state bank or U.S. bank.

IMHO, fixation on printed notes these days is a colorful distraction. Much is done via book entry and by transfers made electronically.

Again, I agree.

The main distinction is whether the "lawful money' is elastic or inelastic. I add that distinction in my correspondences to your above list of potential "Father's trustees". However, said 'trustees' remain silent and continuously ignore the clear intents and requirements of the 'heir'; the man alive, who learned to stay away from the offer of "Mr. Stranger" and wishes to operate by the just and proper balances guaranteed by "Father's trust".

The men and women, who also act in public trust capacity, contacted by this 'heir':

Jacob J. LEW - U.S. Treasurer
Rosa G. RIOS - Treasurer of the United States of America
Thomas J. CURRY - U.S. Comptroller of the Currency
John F. KERRY - U.S. Secretary of State
Ken DETZNER - Florida Secretary of State
Jeff ATWATER - Florida Chief Financial Officer
Karen E. RUSHING - local court clerk

All of "Father's trustees" remain silent and in voluntary ignorance.

This is probably due to the fact that each of these men and women 'moonlight' for "Mr. Stranger" and prefer said 'moonlighting' over their 'day job'.

[allodial]

The main distinction is whether the "lawful money' is elastic or inelastic....

I suppose most any currency has some elasticity to it. Even gold coin could be more valuable one day than the next due to fluctuations in demand for gold. However, it might still serve to be a just weight and balance and inelastic in the sense that flucations would tend to be 'universal' (i.e. effecting all within the context) in scope.

... This is probably due to the fact that each of these men and women 'moonlight' for "Mr. Stranger" and prefer said 'moonlighting' over their 'day job'.

Well you might have hit the nail on the head or pretty close. Or it might be something to do with...

"State Secrets" an attorney and his underlings not being able to reveal their clients' secrets. As in, they might want to help but cannot due to some oath taken. Or perhaps they are partners with Mr. Stranger selling out their own brethren for a mess of pottage? Or perhaps Congress might be chiefly complicity? Or perhaps Congress and the FRB are merely sideshows or "stunt doubles" for others? Since the US Code is made openly available for most all to read, perhaps then there is another perspective...

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. (Proverbs 25:2)

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P.S. Consider that the underwriting activity that a state bank or a federal bank might engage in might only ever be with respect to repossessed assets or with respect to abandoned assets. As in if a bank or a bank holding company [two different things] ever issued its own money it would likely only be underwritten by assets that it confiscated or abandoned assets (i.e. repossession, foreclosure, abandonment, 1099-A, plunder, overpayments, etc.--double dipping might however would be more along the lines of extreme usury and plunder). Apart from services provided, banks don't tend to originate anything of value.

That a bank stands to gain heavily through ignorance or lack of knowledge is telling. Consider that Governments have tended to make substantial gains similarly: through forfeiture, asset seizure, tax foreclosures, escheats and abandonment. That they are so interested in your stuff is perhaps revealing something: they don't have much of anything of value without you. This might be shocking but banks and credit card companies are at least in part in the business of turning accounting entries into tangible assets: they want you to fail to pay so they can repossess tangible items. Perhaps they are supposed to (primarily) be in the business of providing telegraphic, accounting and legal services or perhaps that is what they pretend. Consider that new car loans are secured by the cars purchased (proof would be in repossession)--therefore, a bank isn't risking anything except a bet as to whether you will pay the repayment amount on time or at all. If the reader doesn't believe that a bank would repossess a $50K car and still require the 'borrower' to repay the remainder of the loan, I have something for you:

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[Anthony Joseph]

I suppose most any currency has some elasticity to it. Even gold coin could be more valuable one day than the next due to fluctuations in demand for gold. However, it might still serve to be a just weight and balance and inelastic in the sense that flucations would tend to be 'universal' (i.e. effecting all within the context) in scope.



Well you might have hit the nail on the head or pretty close. Or it might be something to do with "State Secrets" an attorney and his underlings not being able to reveal their clients' secrets. As in, they might want to help but cannot due to some oath taken. Or perhaps they are partners with Mr. Stranger selling out their own brethren for a mess of pottage? Or perhaps Congress might be chiefly complicity? Or perhaps Congress and the FRB are merely sideshows or "stunt doubles" for others? Since the US Code is made openly available for most all to read, perhaps then there is another perspective...



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That a bank stands to gain heavily through ignorance or lack of knowledge is telling. Consider that Governments have tended to make substantial gains similarly: through forfeiture, asset seizure, tax foreclosures, escheats and abandonment. That they are so interested in your stuff is perhaps revealing something: they don't have much of anything of value without you. This might be shocking but banks and credit card companies are in the business of turning accounting entries into tangible assets: they want you to fail to pay so they can repossess tangible items. Perhaps they are supposed to be in the business of providing telegraphic, accounting and legal services or perhaps that is what they pretend. Consider that new car loans are secured by the cars purchased (proof would be in repossession)--therefore, a bank isn't risking anything except a bet as to whether you will pay the repayment amount on time or at all.

While I am all for being charitable, I point out Communism for what it is (so that folks can steer the Ship clear of the rocks and shoals): it is the wet dream of plunderers and asset seizure, Communism is usury, asset forfeiture, asset seizure, taxation, repossession on steroids for those who just cant get enough. AFAIK, Communism is not biblical. For those who don't get it: we already hold roads, streets, bridges and public property in common. Voluntary fraternal or sororial communalism isn't the same as communism which is where the Caesar levies 100%+ tax instead of just getting what Caesar might be due.

If you consider why it might be difficult for Bob to get a loan from a bank for his new gas station, consider that if the bank is running ten repossessed gas stations in the same town, the bank might have a conflict of interest. The bank becomes an intelligence agency spying on potential competition. It might also make sense why the FRB pulls currency from areas that need it: the harder it is for businesses and others to repay their loans THE MORE ASSETS MEMBER BANKS STAND TO REPOSSESS OR FORECLOSE ON. This is really rather obvious stuff. Communism: is municipal trading, asset forfeiture, monopoly and more combined. The point is: a free market works in the hand of honest folks. When a free market system (and I don't mean "capitalism") is in the hand of Communists or extreme Socialists who pretend to be for the free market it can give rise to false appearances. The system works because they use it to enrich themselves! So I allude to you* knowing how to make it work for yourselves and others.

Also, once a threat is exposed, then there is clearly something to pray about. I have often drawn a parallel between calling air strikes and prayer. There is more than enough hope.

One of the duties of a public trustee is to fully acquit and discharge debt obligations, or other securities, of the United States unless... a man or woman accommodates or undertakes for the obligation. The FIRST MIDDLE LAST may be my property (right-of-use proper to me and exclusive of all others), but title is held by another. Titleholder is legal owner and the liable party obligated and responsible for the 'thing' titled.

U.C.C. TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 1 > § 8

§ 8. Obligation or other security of the United States

The term “obligation or other security of the United States” includes all bonds, certificates of indebtedness, national bank currency, Federal Reserve notes, Federal Reserve bank notes, coupons, United States notes, Treasury notes, gold certificates, silver certificates, fractional notes, certificates of deposit, bills, checks, or drafts for money, drawn by or upon authorized officers of the United States, stamps and other representatives of value, of whatever denomination, issued under any Act of Congress, and canceled United States stamps.

Section 1-201 (24). "Money". Section 6(5), Uniform Negotiable Instruments Law. The test adopted is that of sanction of government, whether by authorization before issue or adoption afterward, which recognizes the circulating medium as a part of the official currency of that government. The narrow view that money is limited to legal tender is rejected.

Volunteer public trust officials are oath-bound to fulfill said duty and obligations. People are the substance behind all value. The living men and women are the creditors, freely giving the labor and energy produced by their bodies for the benefit of all living people. The United States benefits from the labor and energy of the living people as evidenced by the notes and credit issued and circulating in the public realm. The substance of the living people is the value behind the credit and currency of the United States. The United States is the debtor. The United States is operating in bankruptcy.

When the non-accommodating and non-undertaking people require of public servants/officials/trustees to discharge debt against a vested interest of the United States (FIRST MIDDLE LAST) per their own obligatory law, performance should and must be executed else there is dereliction of duty and violation of office. If an agreement/contract is claimed as authority over a man or woman, then let the living man or woman (who also acts as public servant/official/trustee) making said claim VERIFY on and for the record, under oath or affirmation, that another living man or woman owes a debt or obligation.

Compelling performance of a public servant/officer/trustee 'on the offense' proves more difficult than 'on the defense'.

[allodial]

... When the non-accommodating and non-undertaking people require of public servants/officials/trustees to discharge debt against a vested interest of the United States (FIRST MIDDLE LAST) per their own obligatory law, performance should and must be executed else there is dereliction of duty and violation of office. If an agreement/contract is claimed as authority over a man or woman, then let the living man or woman (who also acts as public servant/official/trustee) making said claim VERIFY on and for the record, under oath or affirmation, that another living man or woman owes a debt or obligation.

Compelling performance of a public servant/officer/trustee 'on the offense' proves more difficult than 'on the defense'.

Writ of mandamus; acceptance of oath of office. The more one knows about the underlying law, the more effectively or concise one can be with respect to mandamus or the like.

P.S. it might help if you have someone available to act if the person fails to comply with the mandate --you know kinda like what they do if someone doesn't pay a fine. Shouldn't take too much thought on what government officials could be useful to back you up.

Related: http://freedom-school.com/acceptance/.

[Anthony Joseph]

Writ of mandamus; acceptance of oath of office. The more one knows about the underlying law, the more effectively or concise one can be with respect to mandamus or the like.

P.S. it might help if you have someone available to act if the person fails to comply with the mandate --you know kinda like what they do if someone doesn't pay a fine. Shouldn't take too much thought on what government officials could be useful to back you up.

Related: http://freedom-school.com/acceptance/.

United States Marshals.

[Leo Undelli]

Talking to the guns for hire working in Federal Buildings, it was revealed that there are only two (2) Federal Marshalls per State. Not all you see is the truth. I believe your Remedy lies in their forms. Listen to Joe on Angela's calls...http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...d=39904&cmd=tc EPISODE 223 - Special Guest Speaker Joe; EPISODE 224 - Back by Popular Demand "Joe"; EPISODE 233 - Special Guest Speaker Joe Private Equity Recovery; EPISODE 242 - Special Guest Speaker Joe......also David Merrill is spot on concerning his research......refiling W-4 has stopped all federal withholding with a major manufacturing company.....transcripts from IRS Penn. indicates no taxable income the last 3 years.....filed corrected w-4's back to the 1990's........using the example on this forum.....placed two (2) w-4's on 1 sheet of paper with Notary juriat at bottom, then had Sec of State authenticate all forms with their Certificate.....gave copies to IRS and had IRS file stamp my copies then sent copies to the major manufacturing company....your Remedy lies with the county you sleep in.....California counties have been burned and are ponying up to their duties....other states are behind the curve as suitors have not studied how to enforce their wishes.....NEVER SAY I WANT ONLY "I WISH"....next post will include forms to use for county compliance.......

[Leo Undelli]

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Joe.html

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf Form for Public Servants who think they are above the law

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf Form for county departments who refuse to provide their filed form 990's

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f211.pdf Reward for reporting Public Servants who steal from the united States of America

http://www.unclefed.com/IRS-Forms/ Good source for W-4 forms

[Leo Undelli]

Counter Deed - (Law) a secret writing which destroys, invalidates, or alters, a public deed. http://tinyurl.com/oo26klj

Take your Counter Deed and sign in front of four witnesses......have the four witnesses sign the Counter Deed in front of Notary

I have not tried this yet, but sounds good....thus removing your signature from Notary using witnesses as buffer. Not sure what description of property one uses and what format is included in counter deed.....I use bond paper for important documents.

Each state's statutes has code similar to the following California Code:

California GOVERNMENT CODE http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Joe.html
SECTION 26900

26900. The auditor shall examine and settle the accounts of any
persons indebted to the county or holding money payable into the
county treasury, and shall certify the amount to the treasurer. Upon
the presentation and filing of the treasurer's receipt therefor, the
auditor shall give to such person a discharge and charge the
treasurer with the amount received by him.

[property tax, child support, etc]

This is your Remedy for county taking care of your bills issued by the county....counties are all non-profit charity organizations...thus the elusive FORM 990 the counties do not want you to see. The counties EIN numbers are on the FORM 990

[salsero]

"One of the duties of a public trustee is to fully acquit and discharge debt obligations, or other securities, of the United States unless... a man or woman accommodates or undertakes for the obligation. The FIRST MIDDLE LAST may be my property (right-of-use proper to me and exclusive of all others), but title is held by another. Titleholder is legal owner and the liable party obligated and responsible for the 'thing' titled."

Just a quick comment about being consistent. I agree that one of the duties of public trustees is to fully acquit and discharge their "properties" obligations under 12 USC 95a. If a man accommodates or undertakes or CLAIMS that Property or Name or estate, trust, person, etc as his property, therefore , he consents to act as trustee, fiduciary, executor, or administrator of that person, trust, estate, etc. A usufruct complaint certified certificate has been sent to man for his USE, where and if a claim against said property or name should arise, MAN is NOT to intermeddle with such affairs that have no concern to him and should refer the person who has such a claim to contact the correct party to settle the matter.

If man intermeddles with property that does not belong to him, there is a presumption by law that he accepts such fiduciary duties to administrate that entity. If that NAME were my property, I would be able to obtain the original title from the state vital statistics bureau. I can have it, therefore, the state is the legal owner of that property while the US has bought and paid for the interest thereof through the SSA.

We also want to be careful referring to men as creditors. A creditor is a person and a person is a fiction. Men have nothing to do with their system. This does not mean men can not benefit on behalf of the person. This is just indirectly. The US is the beneficiary. Remember fiction for fiction, real for real. Men are real. And remember that a beneficiary has a tax liability [rule of usufruct].

"Compelling performance of a public servant/officer/trustee 'on the offense' proves more difficult than 'on the defense'." I agree with you 100%
We have USE of but not ownership of that estate. I realize this is how you meant what you stated, I just wanted to clarify a bit. They are tricky you know - lol