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    On Trial Right Now: Someone that tried to introduce a competing currency to the Fed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Dollar

    Just got an email from RTR asking for volunteers for "boots on the ground" to provide coverage of the landmark Money trial taking place in North Carolina right now.

    According to them there is a media blackout on it.

    "Bernard von NotHaus stands accused for taking on the Federal
    Reserve System by producing a competing currency. "

    Anybody else aware that this trial is happening?
    Last edited by Axe; 03-15-11 at 12:43 AM.

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    Keep us informed as to the progress of the trial. There is a village in Thailand that started printing its own money. It has become very popular and gaining popularity in the province. So far the Thai government has not interfered and doesn't look as if they are going to. Frederick Burrell

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    I had read about this trial coming up on some internet news site last year; might have been on Rense or perhaps Steve Quayle.

    It seems to me that where Bernard von NOTHAUS went wrong was in naming his coins "dollars".
    If he had used another name, like Taler or Talent or any other name that isn't being claimed by the banksters he probably would have had better success with his business.
    Since his coins are made of precious metal they don't need to be called "dollar" to make them valuable.
    I suppose he called them dollars to get around the sales tax issue, but since there were non-redeemed FRNs involved in his venture there had to be trouble.

    There is a subtle irony in all this.
    NotHaus is a German compound noun. "Not" means emergency, necessity, distress, and misery in German, and "Haus" means house.
    The word "von" means from.
    His name, Bernard von NotHaus, literally means "Bernard from the house of misery and distress/emergency.

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    I thought the Spanish coined the term 'Dollar'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereignty View Post
    I thought the Spanish coined the term 'Dollar'?
    Coinage Act of 1792

    Dollars or Units $1 371 4/16 grain (24.1 g) pure or 416 grain (27.0 g) standard silver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereignty View Post
    I thought the Spanish coined the term 'Dollar'?
    The Germans did.
    Descends from the town Jocamisthaler where silver was mined and minted. This is about 16th century.
    There is also the Spanish milled dollar. The world's first international currency if you will.
    The concept of the American dollar is heavily influenced by these sources.
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    Yes; you're both right.
    In Bohemia, a part of the Holy Roman Empire then controlled by the Jagellonian monarchs, a guldiner was minted ... that was named the Joachimsthaler from the silver mined by the Counts of Schlick at a rich source near Joachimsthal (St. Joachim's Valley, Jáchymov) (now in the Czech Republic) where Thal (Tal) means "valley" in German. Joachim, the father of the Virgin Mary, was portrayed on the coin. Similar coins began to be minted in neighboring valleys rich in silver deposits, each named after the particular 'thal' or valley from which the silver was extracted. There were soon so many of them that these silver coins began to be known more widely as 'thaler'. From these earliest 'thalaer' developed the new Thaler – the coin that Europe had been looking for to create a standard for commerce.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daalder
    As silver flooded into the European economy from domestic and overseas sources, Thalers and Thaler-sized coins were minted all over with equivalent coins such as the crown, daalder from which the English word "dollar" is derived, krona, and from 1497, the Spanish 8 reales piece was minted - a coin which would later become known in some parts of the world as the peso. Indeed, in England the word "dollar" was in use for the Thaler for 200 years before the issue of the United States dollar,

    As this Spanish 8 reale coin (left), more commonly called Piece of Eight (8 bits), was popular at our nation's beginning it became the basis of our silver dollar, sharing the same size & weight. The first coinage Act (1792) states:
    DOLLARS OR UNITS--each to be of the value of a Spanish milled dollar as the same is now current, and to contain three hundred and seventy-one grains and four sixteenth parts of a grain of pure, or four hundred and sixteen grains of standard silver.
    http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/coinage1792.txt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    I had read about this trial coming up on some internet news site last year; might have been on Rense or perhaps Steve Quayle.

    It seems to me that where Bernard von NOTHAUS went wrong was in naming his coins "dollars".
    If he had used another name, like Taler or Talent or any other name that isn't being claimed by the banksters he probably would have had better success with his business.
    Since his coins are made of precious metal they don't need to be called "dollar" to make them valuable.
    I suppose he called them dollars to get around the sales tax issue, but since there were non-redeemed FRNs involved in his venture there had to be trouble.

    There is a subtle irony in all this.
    NotHaus is a German compound noun. "Not" means emergency, necessity, distress, and misery in German, and "Haus" means house.
    The word "von" means from.
    His name, Bernard von NotHaus, literally means "Bernard from the house of misery and distress/emergency.

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    I agree with the emphasized line! This is the same reason the Las Vegas gold case was lost.

    Any-thing ("goods or services") in the US Economy when non-redeemed from their lien of Federal Reserve Notes is considered property of the Federal Reserve.

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