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Thread: Persuasion & PSYOPS: The Elaboration Likelihood Model

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by doug555 View Post
    And isn't every corporation really acting as an Agent of the Treasury/Trustee anyways, as a sub-corp of the US Corp?
    If the organization has a IRS tax ID, its a revenue agency. If the organization does anything in the name of "the IRC requires it" or in the name of "the Treasury regulations" require it, it is an agency of the IRS or the Treasury Department to the applicable extent. There was an old case where a private water company contractor was collecting information in connection with its billing practices or something like that and the court ruled that because the organization was doing allegedly in connection with a Federal law, the organization was acting as a Federal agency in doing so and was to be treated like a government agency in that specific act.

    If a banker says he or she wants information to fulfill Treasury Regulations or any government this or that even because of the PATRIOT Act then the banker is a State or Federal agent and anything about it being their bank policy is sophistry--they are liable as if a public Federal or State agency for any breech of the law or injury, loss or harm they cause in the same manner as a Federal agency would be. If they claim greater powers than the statute, law or regulation then they could be liable for fraud. However, they might try to sell you "its bank policy" Koolaid before you walk out the door.

    So, as agents of the principal/trustee, they should know HOW to handle getting a credit from the trustee, right?
    If they don't know or do know and pretend not to then they might be subject to criminal or civil liability and might also be subject to ouster, revocation or suspension of licensing or the like for incompetence or the like (you know kinda like how they suspend driver licenses?). Fraud, maybe?

    So, let's hold them accountable, and if they fail to perform, that is outside the scope of their principal/agent agreement, and then can be held liable.
    The Treasury Department or a State or Federal Attorney General might be able to help with that.
    Last edited by allodial; 03-03-15 at 03:26 AM.
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  2. #32
    central too banking and the legal paper are BILLS papal Bulls the paper is registered trademarked serialized formed & # in concordance to consent cohesion and at our own contempt for the practitioner means what if water is drawn legally from a central well the buckets are spiked [a wet sign]. lawfully re- dig yourself a well and de -centralize it .on lawful paper a notice with the adversed contempt claimed . u order a thing and bills are due when u finish dinning the cheque is presented after will there be anything else was everything satisfactory u cash claim the cheque 0 its balance bill paid hydro bill is due claim Cheque 0 the balance bill paid a bill is blank until the order and account is given can u demand a smaller bill not till u change the order. Banks payee to the order off u own the paper set off debt or settle debt offers. owe or assume a debt owning up is differed once ante Tailgating has two parties ones invited ones not.when phone call house is on fire hang phone up dial 911 or who is this how the fire start and totally ignore the fire getting the message means hanging up the phone if i cant explain it simple i don't understand it Einstein.The fact this forum has a tailgate party is why not to follow what not to follow [ye folla]

  3. #33
    xparte I have a bit of a trouble following your grammar. For some reason I'm reminded of NLP. No offense.
    Last edited by allodial; 03-06-15 at 04:40 AM.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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