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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Alan View Post
    I was thinking along the lines of operating an agency franchise foreign to my state, like driving. That's what the driver license is for - operators are consenting to service of process because they are entities foreign to the states.

    What I - and probably everyone here - would like to see is a comprehensive program or strategy that would keep people from being harassed by contract enforcement officers.
    I think we should be keeping an eye on how this goes.

    South Carolina State Rep Tom Davis is the bill’s sponsor, and in justifying his legislation he twice quoted from the Mack/Printz v. US case, saying that the States are not “political subdivisions of the Federal Government” and that the feds cannot “compel the states to enforce federal laws.”
    Sheriffs office is not so bad after all.

    Now as states wake up to their true power and responsibility, we have SC taking exemplary action to protect their citizens from an out of control federal government.
    From http://cspoa.org/sheriff-macks-lawsu...top-obamacare/

    Bill 3101 - South Carolina Legislature Online - Bill Search by Bill Number http://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsear...3101&summary=B

    Whereas, the people of the several states comprising the United States of America created the federal government to be their agent for certain enumerated purposes, and nothing more; and
    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess120_...bills/3101.htm
    Last edited by Chex; 01-12-14 at 04:58 PM.

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    Q: After demand for lawful money has been made, can one withdraw however much they want from their ATM now? If not, why is it that banks put daily limits on how much one can take out? What's the reason for that?

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    Allow me to clear up some errors in the segment Keith quoted me on above. The SC quote from Rodriguez v Donovan is suspect, and I have not been able to find the original ruling. Also, The Social Security # is evidence of your voluntary acceptance of socialist/debt slave status. If you have a SS#, then you have a NAME. The NAME is not a trust, it is a limited liability corporation, chartered inside the SS trust. It is owned by the state/federal government jointly. The status of the NAME is that of a slave or serf; it has only the right of naked use of assets within the SS trust. And it has surrendered all Constitutional rights. So if you are using the NAME, you are assumed to be a slave, without Constitutional rights, and you will have to defend your rights quickly and correctly, or you will be railroaded fast in a kangaroo court. The acceptance of a drivers license will be one of the most obvious contracts you will have to defend, as it is issued in your NAME, and the state demanded proof that you were a US citizen before they issued it, so you stand a much better chance of beating an alleged 'violation' of municipal law if you don't have a drivers license. But there are lots of adhesion contracts that must be rebutted, and the process is convoluted and pervasive. The interested reader is directed to these web sites: http://www.state-citizen.org/page2.html (check out Mercier's Invisible Contracts); http://www.supremelaw.org/library/al...emp/index.html (there are several days worth of material here which will help you understand how the corporate government has tried to eliminate the Constitution).

    As to my previous statement that the demand for lawful money redeems your estate out of the SS usufruct trust, the demand by itself does not accomplish that. Assets held in the NAME are owned by the government. Buying assets with lawful money and putting them into the NAME still makes them a gift to the government. But serving your demand on the bank takes your income out of the jurisdiction of Title 26, so eliminates the obligation to file a tax return. This is a two-part issue: by being a slave, property of the government, you use the NAME to set up your employment agreement (your 'employer' pays you under the NAME). And you filed a W-4 stating that you are a US citizen. The NAME, SS#, and W-4 all confirm that you want the government to tax your income, you agree that you are a 'taxpayer' (voluntary) under Title 26, and you authorize your 'employer' to withhold income taxes. You are obligated to file a return. When you make a demand for lawful money and serve it on the bank, you have not changed your taxpayer status, you have just elected to deal only in non-taxable money. Thus your 'reportable income' goes to zero, and you do not meet the requirement of a minimum income for which a return must be filed. But this bank account will work against you in traffic court, as it confirms that you are still owned by the government (voluntarily, of course). The presumption that you are a US citizen is pervasive. You have to stop using the NAME and the SS# everywhere, start identifying yourself as a non-resident alien, an American Citizen (We, the People). You have American Citizenship by birth and parentage, and citizenship is a First Amendment right, so you can start being a Citizen whenever you want to. The corporation that runs the Federal government does not want any slaves slipping off the plantation, so they use multiple adhesion contracts. For example, the IRS claims that if you receive mail at an address that includes a ZIP (Zone Improvement Program) code, this is proof that you are a resident of a federal zone. The federal zone is now an accepted term in the courts, and describes that overlay of legal jurisdiction which the corporate government claims now extends over the entire land mass of America. For tax purposes, the IRS now claims that that jurisdiction extends over the entire physical world, that US citizens are taxable everywhere on the planet. Once you start down this rabbit hole, you will see that the bankers intend to enslave the entire world with their trusts, contracts, and debt. Their mission is to eliminate individual rights, Constitutions, and republic forms of government, thus ending the concept that 'the People' are sovereign. Greed gone wild. This will not end well...

    Freed

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    Over the last two weeks I've experienced a major realization: I really don't care what the people who operate the various governments think about THE NAME. I know how to "turn it off," so to speak. I understand that sometimes people want me to use it with the number, and if it's advantageous , I do it. Same with citizenship - if I need it, I use it.

    At the end of the day, I see the issue as a mental health problem; my neighbors are deluded. There's also the possibility that I am too.

    So far I've refrained from turning off the legal person, because there are people in my life depending on me, and I'm not sure I can operate efficiently without disrupting their lives in a negative way.

    I want to say 'thank you' to David Merril for showing me the difference between the True Name and THE LEGAL NAME. I am holding a driver's license that shows THE LEGAL NAME being operated by a man with a True Name.

    Since I took that step, the true nature of my relationship between my neighbors and I keeps becoming more clear in my mind. I now know with certainty that if needed, I can completely sever all ties with them very easily, and emerge quite unscathed from suffering the brunt of their delusions.

    I agree with you, Freed, the bankers' end game is evil and despotic. But the greater crime is the fear and anxiety that our neighbors are enduring on a daily basis. It's criminal because they're doing it to themselves. I know this is true because it was true - and still is, to a lesser degree - in my personal experience.

    But you made the comment that, "this won't end well. " I think it does end well. All of this is necessary in order for people to discover their true worth.

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