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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Consider the absurdity that debt is money.
    RIGHT.

    The citizenry end up using Monopoly money that issues from a bank. That issues from a bank. The Bank and the Representatives of government are the higher powers in this Trust Agreement. Where are the people found? Trusting in their government representatives to MEDIATE - just like Moses did - a Trust Agreement on their behalf.

    But that Monopoly money is the result of a loan that the private bank GAVE or you might say GRANTED to a government so that said government might continue to do business. Said government placing its bonds as surety or you might say Security Interest - remember FDR quote?

    So you can see the government has MORTGAGED itself and the Mortgage cannot be redeemed unless the loan is repaid. The citizenry therefore is using IOU's to transfer their debts one to another - but never extinguishing the debt. The only way to extinguish the debt is to redeem the bonds with interest. Oh there are some who will say a government is not real - HORSESHIT. Men place their trust in mediators or representatives to do certain jobs FOR them - a government is therefore a named Trust Agreement which is UNDERSTOOD in relationship. And it is those people who willingly accept whatever their leaders are able to negotiate for them and in or on their behalf. This of course is expressed and implied by voting. Get out there and rock the vote won't you?

    The labor of the citizenry may in fact redeem the IOU's but it seems the government is a beast that is never satisfied. I am reminded of this:

    Luk 11:46 And He said, "Woe unto you also, ye teachers of the Law! for ye heavy laden men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch gently not the burdens with one of your fingers.

    In my opinions v.46 shows the difference between those being represented - the cattle that bear the load [yoked in ignorance] and those who drive the cattle.

    Of course government is but a huge trust and one would do themselves a huge favor to learn the different offices of the trust. But consider what happens when a peoples representatives, in union, mortgage the future labors of the people just so the government can continue?

    the government becomes the slave - and the lender becomes the beneficiary of that slave labor. What is left of the people? Well what do you think the government has to pledge to the lender? Why do you think Hilary Clinton spent so much time in China? Answer: She was looking for a lender who would continue to loan money to a government that cannot pay its debts.

    It is all about trust folks. Oh you can use words such as agreement or contract, but in the end you had best learn the offices of the trust if you are to comprehend the nature of the beast.

    A smart attorney is always going to ask "are those Federal Reserve Notes" in your wallet? Consider what said attorney seeks. Have your representatives sold you and your labor? Do you vote? Can't you see I am talking about express and implied trust.

    I speak of TWO kingdoms. Babylon the Great [statue] and the Kingdom of God. The latter Kingdom manifest first within and is expressed in Deed. Faith absent deeds is dead. Debt = Death. Mortgage = A death pledge.

    I take comfort here:

    Isa 52:3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed not with silver.

    Consider how ye sell yourselves. Do you participate in a system of representative government? Consider the Trust process in paragraph one hereinbefore. Read it again. Who is trustee and who is beneficiary and who is THIRD PARTY BENEFICIARY of the notes in circulation? Instead of government being the rich man who helps to keep commerce flowing the Monopoly Bank is now the Head. Ever play Monopoly? Have you ever stopped to consider who is the surety for all that paper money in the Bank? Oh its just a game says the gainsayer. Where does the paper money go after the game is over? And do you ever own the property or can you ONLY improve the Property to collect RENTS?

    Shalom
    MJ
    Last edited by Michael Joseph; 02-04-14 at 06:20 PM.
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