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    Quote Originally Posted by doug555 View Post
    I don't follow your logic in stating that the "people of the Nation" are the creditors. The Congressman said that money was issued by the United States. Now the United States has its own independent citizenry with its own Constitution. And the States have their own citizenry with their own Constitutions.

    The compact between the United States and the States is reflected in the Constitution of the United States. But which Nation is the congressman talking about? Go to Laws of Nations. And specifically "Moral Person".

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    § 1.What is meant by the term nation or state.

    Nations or States are political bodies, societies of men who have united together and combined
    their forces, in order to procure their mutual welfare and security.

    § 2. It is a moral person.

    Such a society has its own affairs and interests; it deliberates and takes resolutions in common,
    and it thus becomes a moral person having an understanding and a will peculiar to itself, and
    susceptible at once of obligations and of rights.

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    Now clearly I have shown that the United States is its own Moral Person. And each State is its own Moral Person. Therefore I beg again - what Nation is the dear congressman speaking to?

    Surely a lawyer would not be lazy with words. And I find it peculiar that the word [noun] Nation is capitalized. I mean for what cause would such a noun be capitalized? It is not capitalized above in § 1.

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    Michael Joseph
    Last edited by Michael Joseph; 05-28-14 at 05:14 AM.
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