Originally Posted by doug555
... and 12 USC 95a is NOT a remedy Congress wrote in 1917, amended in 1933, and is still in force today, and even has an immunity clause?!
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I was referring to Title 12 USC §411 from the 1913 Federal Reserve Act - §16.
Being that §501(c)(3) is not the ecclesia, I have been prompted just today to form the church - the true church at that. Furthermore I have been attending Bible Study, unwittingly preparing myself for just that.
Sunday night in the Bible Study, the leader/pastor and a couple others were preaching to me about the Christian doctrine of sacrifice, futurism and several other folly arguments. Understand that this is in the same breath as the Prodigal Son parable. - Emphasis on the unconditional and consistent love of the Father being representing of God's love.
Now what that does is gets me thinking, If I were in a position to preach the correct rendition of God's Word, and be ministering to the Christians about their folly what exactly would I say to be convincing? Well, I should start when I asked the Holy Spirit for guidance during my lecture; excuse me, the sermon.
I like this method - my Bible fell open to Acts, Chapter 22. Somehow it seems to me that I have never had a Red Ink rendition with Jesus speaking in red font for this particular chapter before. Paul is recounting his early journey to Rome and says that while in a trance Jesus spoke to him and warned him, Get out of Jerusalem. Well, if Paul was obedient to Jesus then he would not have been convicted of treason and had to run to Felix to hide from the Sanhedrin in jail, eventually ending up in Rome under that same protective custody, living on the Roman taxpayer dole...
But that is how it happened folks! Paul wrote the epistles forming the Christian religious formula simply because he disobeyed Jesus!
The reason I requested guidance in the first place is that through gossip behind my back (mostly from Christianity Explored - a program at that church) these guys knew I am not a fan of sacrifice, and born-in-sin guilt trips. So they were battering me with Paul's teachings about being cleansed in Jesus' shed blood; which to me is just a continuation of the sacrificial laws but with the Substitution of Jesus as the Perfect Sacrificial Lamb. So imagine my (NOT) surprise when the Holy Spirit opens my Bible to see that - Paul created Christianity as it is through disobedience to Jesus!!
There is another author who wrote though - most Bible historians proclaim that The Book of Hebrews was written by another author, more like two authors, neither one was Paul. Here we learn a ministry of Remembrance. - Not sacrifice, but remembrance.
We get distinct reference to Melchizedek, rather than the function of the Priests from Levi - appointed for the blood sacrifice. If I was to start a cult tomorrow, I think that might be where I would start.
The other item I found offensive about the Original Sin doctrine was the idea that God is angered - much less wrathful. What this does is project lower dimensional attributes like fear and anger on to a supernatural super-being - God. This is contrary to God being unending perpetual Love. The Father in the Prodigal Son parable was never angry. Even to the son who remained at home and "faithful" - the Father went out to find him, missing the party for the prodigal son, to see what was wrong. The Father did not send a servant to go summon the other son and he met the angered resentful son with the same unconditional love that he had for the returning prodigal son! There was never a lapse in the Father's Love.
I am not saying that God is pleased by sin, or even complacent. What I am saying is the suffering we feel due to our sins is a consequence of law - not because the Creator of the Universe feels anger. We project that "anger" upon God as we feel fear ourselves, as an ego-driven emotion.
Then moving on, the Christians were affirming to one another that God does not need us for ANYTHING!
I beg to differ. God needs us to have any meaning. Think this through though please. To have meaning one must be attributing the existence of that - meaning - into the conscious cognizance of another. So without us, for God to have any meaning He would have to create another cognizant being beside you and me. So without the Created, the Creator has no meaning by definition of meaning.
Perhaps I am over thinking things but I figure that is why I have a brain.
P.S. Paul's excuse for staying in Jerusalem and facing trial by the Sanhedrin was a guilt trip he had for his involvement stoning Stephen. You have therefore a major religion promoting blood sacrifice, even a surrogate human blood sacrifice caused by disobedience to Jesus because of a self-imposed guilt trip!
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Ah I see. Have you ever wondered why there is a County Attorney? I see WARDS. So I got rid of the presumption by writing the Attorney and demanding he produce evidence of the contract, trust etc. issued to the livery of michael joseph.
Funny thing, there was no response. A self executing judgment. Let God judge between ye and me this day.
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Shalom,
Michael Joseph
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Thank you Michael Joseph.
David Merrill your recent post struck note of reminder of a perceived parallel. Many so-called "African-Americans" who have never been to Africa and who might be from America rather than America seem to be stuck in a mindset of the freshly freed slave or kidnapped-child-grown-up-but-doesn't-know-where-he-is-from. "Who will tell the slave he is free?" is a question. But another, "Who will tell his children and their children and their children's children that they are freeborn?" (Until then they can confess against themselves on government forms [i.e. check 'negro' (meaning slave), perhaps some bureaucrats mused back in the 50s--until they figure it out if they ever do)].
I find much of what is being passed off as "Christianity" in the sense of Jesus (Y'shua's/Joshua's) Christ's teachings might have a parallel in the above in that many seem to be caught up in a pre-endued-from-on-high, pre-crucifixion and pre-70-AD reality Mobius loop.
The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (KJV - Luke 17:21)
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"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.
I might debate your findings but consider that God NEVER wanted blood - this is why Isaiah was so shaken up. However sin has consequence and I find the model of blood sacrifice of an INNOCENT animal interesting. Atonement is not within the sinners grasp.
And therefore something greater must redeem the lesser. Therefore we see in the flesh of Christ Jesus the making of Peace by establishment of a covenant in blood. I see the Covenant between El Elyon and Yehovah. So that the reader might not be confused Yehovah in the OFFICE of the Son took the name Yehoshuah [Hebrew Name].
In the Aramaic Language : Yeshua
In the Greek Language : Iousus
In the English Language : Jesus
That names are Transliterations but they all mean Yehovah is Salvation. Which comports with Psalm 27:1.
Therefore Yehoshuah has the Agreement with El Elyon to redeem all those who place their trust in Him. How that agreement was struck was between El Elyon and Yehoshuah.
Therefore I look onto Yehoshuah as my Savior. Now Christ Jesus made peace in Covenant with El Elyon [a body thou hast prepared for me] and was glorified as Jesus Christ. I see The Word made Flesh.
An anti-Christ by definition of the Word is one that denies that Christ Jesus, The Word, came in the Flesh, was crucified and resurrected.
Consider the depth of the Trust the man Christ Jesus placed in El Elyon. For he read "Thou art a priest Forever after the order of Melchizedok". This time - looking back upon Abraham - no substitution would be made - the Lamb was provided by the Father to provide the Purchase [ransom].
El Elyon is righteous. If a King issues forth a Law it stands forever. Those who thought to overcome El Elyon sought to bind El Elyon in the Law of the Kingdom. Therefore I look onto the blood of Yehoshuah as the means by which He made peace with El Elyon.
Now then, where does that leave me? I am now a free moral agent - free to engage any suitor. However being wooed by The Word I drink of the "communion cup" which is my PLEDGE to Yehoshuah that I intend to make myself clean, in the purification process so that I might qualify to be one of the many called - but even more - one that is chosen to be Bride.
The Bride is the Priest in the Order of Melchizedok. I look upon Yehoshuah, sinless under the Law, innocent. And I see the lesser [me] is redeemed by the greater [Him]. So then, placing my trust in Him, I am made subject to His Administration. Which is to say - I shall take my Orders by the Holy Spirit.
For Sin is the transgression of the Law and I am commanded go forth and sin no more! I am also told when I do sin, to be faithful to confess my sin and He is faithful to forgive. Now then Yehoshuah has the Contract; therefore He has the rights to forgive. The Law is set to govern the wicked; however, I do not seek to Trespass my Redeemer as I undertake in this Realm for His Kingdom.
Now if I am required to confess my sin; and sin is transgression of the Law, THEN I am required to know the Law. Now the one who is led by the Holy Spirit may entitle himself a Son of God. That one is Recreated as ROYALTY - a member of the Household of Elohim.
Therefore fundamentally the Contract is in Yehoshuah. That contract was established by El Elyon with Yehoshuah. Therefore noone comes to El Elyon except by and thru Yehoshuah. Which is to say one must put their trust in The Word of God.
Therefore Yehoshuah is my Passover. For if I am in Yehoshuah, then El Elyon sees His contract with Yehoshuah. I am therefore "dead in Yehoshuah" - which is to say my life is placed in Trust with Yehoshuah. Why is this so? Because in sin, I lack the ability to atone for myself and as such, I am doomed absent a Redeemer; and, furthermore, I lack a contract with El Elyon.
For the Father, El Elyon, stipulated no man comes to Him except thru the Son, Yehoshuah. Therefore I find that Yehoshuah was annointed with the oil of gladness ABOVE his fellows.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith [El Elyon speaking], Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God [the Son], even thy God [El Elyon], hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Therefore it is the vanity of man to think he can "buy his stairway to heaven" - there is but one path, one Redeemer.
Shalom,
Michael Joseph
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I feel after re-reading this post that I should clarify.
In the first creation there was no flesh. But there was an apostasy and mankind was created. This is the current age. And man was made subject to vanity in hope that man would choose God and not flesh. A TEST.
So we see Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. But we see the Mystery is couched in flesh and blood. For when man made his choice to court another suitor, he became an outlaw in regard to God's Kingdom. Therefore Yehovah Elohim instituted blood sacrifices to teach the rebellious children.
What I mean is it was NEVER the intention that the angels should fall. As such, this Age while a contingency, was not the original plan. But I see El Elyon and the Word in Contract even before the first Age. El Elyon made all things by and thru Yehovah. Therefore Yehovah has the surety for the creation. In the office of the Son, Yehovah understood the creation so that all might be gathered back to El Elyon. Notice since the creation is in Rebellion, all Escheats back to the Creator.
Heb 7:22 By so much hath Yehoshuah become a surety of a better covenant.
Therefore:
Act 17:28 For by Him we live, and move, and are; .....
Shalom,
Michael Joseph
Last edited by Michael Joseph; 05-28-14 at 02:28 AM.
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I don't follow your logic in stating that the "people of the Nation" are the creditors. The Congressman said that money was issued by the United States. Now the United States has its own independent citizenry with its own Constitution. And the States have their own citizenry with their own Constitutions.
The compact between the United States and the States is reflected in the Constitution of the United States. But which Nation is the congressman talking about? Go to Laws of Nations. And specifically "Moral Person".
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§ 1.What is meant by the term nation or state.
Nations or States are political bodies, societies of men who have united together and combined
their forces, in order to procure their mutual welfare and security.
§ 2. It is a moral person.
Such a society has its own affairs and interests; it deliberates and takes resolutions in common,
and it thus becomes a moral person having an understanding and a will peculiar to itself, and
susceptible at once of obligations and of rights.
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Now clearly I have shown that the United States is its own Moral Person. And each State is its own Moral Person. Therefore I beg again - what Nation is the dear congressman speaking to?
Surely a lawyer would not be lazy with words. And I find it peculiar that the word [noun] Nation is capitalized. I mean for what cause would such a noun be capitalized? It is not capitalized above in § 1.
Shalom,
Michael Joseph
Last edited by Michael Joseph; 05-28-14 at 05:14 AM.
The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.
Lawful Money Trust Website
Divine Mind Community Call - Sundays 8pm EST
ONE man or woman can make a difference!
David Merrill your recent post struck note of reminder of a perceived parallel. Many so-called "African-Americans" who have never been to Africa and who might be from America rather than America seem to be stuck in a mindset of the freshly freed slave or kidnapped-child-grown-up-but-doesn't-know-where-he-is-from. "Who will tell the slave he is free?" is a question. But another, "Who will tell his children and their children and their children's children that they are freeborn?" (Until then they can confess against themselves on government forms [i.e. check 'negro' (meaning slave), perhaps some bureaucrats mused back in the 50s--until they figure it out if they ever do)].
I find much of what is being passed off as "Christianity" in the sense of Jesus (Y'shua's/Joshua's) Christ's teachings might have a parallel in the above in that many seem to be caught up in a pre-endued-from-on-high, pre-crucifixion and pre-70-AD reality Mobius loop.
From Blacks 5th
AMERICAN = of or pertaining to the United States
A child is OF his parent.
Shalom,
MJ
The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.
Lawful Money Trust Website
Divine Mind Community Call - Sundays 8pm EST
ONE man or woman can make a difference!
I will attempt to understand this post by attempting to explain it to the Readers a little more clearly:
For example I have these books by RH CHARLES on my shelf. The other folly I witnessed in the Bible Study was a pastor explaining that God brought us up so evolved that we are aware of the passing of time, unlike the animals. Whereas for me, time is an illusion that encompasses height, width and depth - and so therefore the world is an illusion. So with this understood I will read your explanation that the Age BEFORE this Age is a simultaneous event on a different plane of existence, that has an effect of people interpreting anthropomorphic figures for what comes out of the emotion - fear. This archetype has been in the human mind since a couple hundred years before CHRIST.
At least that is the rationale I must place around the widespread Christian belief that 1/3 of the angels fell in the Lucifer Rebellion when there are about three verses canonized to support it. Little do most Christians know they are citing The Book of Enoch to even speak of such things.
Jesus Lives!! Jesus never died. None of us ever die. There is only the illusion of separation, sin. If one lives by law then that should come off as offending the law. If one lives in love, then one loves the LORD thy God with all thine heart, mind, strength and soul. And of course one loves thy neighbor as thy self. Fear becomes a foreign state. Joy becomes the natural and original state.
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