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    Birth Certificate - What it is

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
    The BC is a certified copy of an original registration of, and TITLE to, the PERSON...
    Birth Certificate is a Certificate of Title (Similar to an automobile “pink slip”) which is evidence that title exists but is not actual title itself. The Birth Certificate is also a Security Instrument used as evidence that there is a security interest in the FIRST MIDDLE LAST name.

    Certificate of Title - "These are issued by a designated state agency to identify the owner of (a) *vehicle, aircraft or water *vessel. Any liens or outstanding loans will be identified on the certificate of title. Often, a lender, such as for an automobile loan, will hold the title until the obligation has been satisfied, at which point the lien is released and the certificate of title will be sent to the owner." http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/...e-of-title.asp
    *The NAME is being classified as a vessel or financial vehicle, in this case, to be utilized in commerce.
    Now read that but with a twist as the "holder" is the "STATE OF..."-
    [Birth Certificates] are issued by a designated state agency to identify the owner of the ...vessel (FIRST MIDDLE LAST). [A trustee of the NAME- You, may hold the title (Certified copy of the BC) and meet an obligation to satisfy such obligation, at which point the lien is released (Accounting brought to zero) as the certificate of title (BC) is sent to the owner. ("STATE OF..." who is the account holder.)
    *The “STATE OF...” holds the NAME in regards to the United States Inc. accounting of it.

    Definition of ‘Security Interest- A legal claim on collateral that has been pledged
    http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/...y-interest.asp

    The FIRST MIDDLE LAST was pledged at birth (registration).
    The people unknowingly claim themselves and their property to be the collateral on legal claims when they claim that they are the FIRST MIDDLE LAST which is merely a name for accounting purposes.

    Sample scenario-
    Judge calls out, "Is JOHN WILLIAM JONES here?" John William replies, "Here!"
    Instead, if John William replies, "I am here about that matter." He has not made a statement lending to evidence that he is (surety/collateral/trustee) for the FIRST MIDDLE LAST.
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    " BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a PUBLIC RECORD that a CROWN ORGANIZATION was ORGANIZED on that date."

    words from john scott duncan

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    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    " BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a PUBLIC RECORD that a CROWN ORGANIZATION was ORGANIZED on that date."

    words from john scott duncan
    You might be onto something. The certificate typically is from the registrar to evidence an entry in the register or rolls.
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    Except that it is not a public record. And it represents an "Individual" as opposed to an organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZrhythm View Post
    Except that it is not a public record. And it represents an "Individual" as opposed to an organization.
    In most U.S. States it is a private record with the particulars thereof to be guarded just like a social security card. Depending on the context an organization can be an "individual".
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZrhythm View Post
    Except that it is not a public record. And it represents an "Individual" as opposed to an organization.
    Criminal Code
    R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46
    “every one”, “person” and “owner”, and similar expressions, include Her Majesty and an organization;
    http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/a.../fulltext.html

    In order to get a driver's license you must first show a BC.
    They need a "public record" of WHO they are dealing with before any DL is handed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    In most U.S. States it is a private record with the particulars thereof to be guarded just like a social security card. Depending on the context an organization can be an "individual".

    More from the Criminal code of Canada

    “public department” means a department of the Government of Canada or a branch thereof or a board, commission, corporation or other body that is an agent of Her Majesty in right of Canada;

    “public stores” includes any personal property that is under the care, supervision, administration or control of a public department or of any person in the service of a public department;



    As you can see by definition all "public stores" are linked to the “public department” which is a "body that is an agent of Her Majesty in right of Canada;"
    The BC is the missing link.
    Its the JOINDER that makes you an agent for the crown.

    Where's my pay cheque?
    I think I might have to RESIGN.

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    PERSON as a corporation that can sue or be sued...


    Ergo the True Name as a class action.
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    "Living Father"

    Through the rules of capitalization "Living Father" is now a Title.
    And Title is ownership.

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    Came across this and I think it might add to the topic of the BC.


    Nemo dat quod non habet, "no one gives what he doesn't have"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemo_dat_quod_non_habet
    Recording statutes

    When dealing with real property, most American jurisdictions have codified recording statutes that will enable subsequent purchasers to divest title from the party with common law title if they qualify for protection under the recording statute. Three varieties of recording statutes exist: 1) Race statutes, 2) Notice statutes, and 3) Race-Notice statutes.

    A race statute will divest common law title from a person with superior title if the subsequent purchaser recorded their deed prior to the person with superior title. A notice statute will divest common law title from a person with superior title if the subsequent purchaser had no notice (either actual or constructive - otherwise known as bona fide) of the true owner's title. A race-notice statute requires a subsequent purchaser to be bona fide and record first.

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