Originally Posted by motla68
If that were true, then you would know of remedy. There would be a remedy within the scope of the context you keep fabricating.
The remedy is written into the law and so the contract is with the Fed - endorsement. That is the contractual nexus you keep trying to fabricate with these bunnytrails and blind alleys.
Are we now calling the U.S. Mint a liar and Manta.com as well? If so how can I possibly work with this?
As described in previous posts I have no need for remedies, only have want for solutions:
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...light=solution
I do not care any more about all this accounting lingo, nor did I ever give a crap about some money in some account somewhere. All I am concerned about is
energy spent, energy received. I do not believe the fruit of labor is money, what I do believe the that fruit is the time. We are talking natural law here, does a
child really give a crap about all the money and toys you can throw at them, NO, in most cases it is the time you spend with them is what counts.
The truth I know is in spirit, the only thing real to me. Lets get real here, this is not a brain trust, this is a paper trust here. I am doing the best I can to accommodate what you all seem to worship here. Unfortunately spirit cannot be put on paper, so I do with what I can, how I can. Much less all the details of conversation with a cop on the side of the road. I could have recorded it yeah, but that is acting like an attorney with a commercial interest, I am not looking to injure someone or be injured in commerce, I do not do as they do, their law is not my God.
As hard it is to believe I do not claim ownership to a name on paper, mom and dad said what she we call him NOT what shall we write him.
Seals are related to Sigil (Black Magic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_%28magic%29
I have a sense that writing words down is casting spells, how do you create a form as in forming a letter? you have to cast it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spell
How do you get around this, not sure right now, but from what I have researched the Druids lived hundreds of years without a written language,
the only thing found was a Calendar which was said to be the most accurate one in the world.
Some of the most successful lawyers practice things in the mirror all the time that has nothing to do with what they learned in law school, it has to
do with reading postures and eye movements.
Through my conscious I see a lot of connections through this stuff, I allow the spirit to increase my knowledge, because knowledge is the Treasure, not this paper and metal we keep chasing after. 2 Ch 1:12 Wisdom and knowledge is granted unto thee; and I will give thee riches, and wealth, and honour, such as none of the kings have had that have been before thee, neither shall there any after thee have the like.
I know you do not give a rats behind about any of this, but I do and see a lot of connections that your not going to find in a law book anywhere,
You asked me to show some things from start to finish and I have, but where those who complain about my post you say, where is their success story? where is their completed posts start to finish? Is it fair to make the same demands upon me that they will not do themselves when it comes to a complete process? I think not.
Focusing:
As described in previous posts I have no need for remedies, only have want for solutions:
My intention in forming this Category as a Lesson Plan is to keep the Readers clarified about Remedy. That is what the 'Saving to Suitor' Club was formed around:
If you are looking for solutions instead of remedy that makes no sense because in this context they are the same thing. If you are thinking there are solutions, that are not based in remedy, then you are talking about something else....saving to suitors in all cases, the right of a common law remedy where the common law is competent to provide it
I think that to clarify the source of the friction between you and I will be very edifying to the Readers - and for that I thank you greatly - as it causes me to sleep on it, and to simply justify my implication that you are pushing fabrications. You keep pushing the idea that there is an account, but then you back off, saying:
I do not care any more about all this accounting lingo, nor did I ever give a crap about some money in some account somewhere.
If it makes no sense to me, then I have to doubt it is making sense to anybody else. You put some dots out there and I admit I even threw in a couple dots to make my point - that you do care about your premise, that there are funded accounts hypothecated upon the birth certificate. That is why you never paint a sensical portrait by connecting any more than two or three dots at once; like your MANTA link and out-of-context quotes from the Treasury. You just declare that you don't care and go into infantile deletion tizzyfits.
The source of the discrepancy is that the Emergency needs to be properly defined. Then the Readers and maybe you, can get it; why the 'saving to suitors' clause demands that when the US government turned over responsibility for money in America to the Fed, they had to provide remedy, yes remedy, to each and every one of us for us to decide - to make a conscious decision - with each and every cash-received transaction, electronic or not.
The original Emergency upon which IN GOD WE TRUST originated (1863) was:
No State, or Confederation of States may secede from the Union.
The Emergency of 1933 - the War on the Great Depression - was to save the Fed from the 20-year expiration of the Charters on Fed Banks. The bankers dealing in Fed Notes were about to make a run on the Fed - redeeming lawful money. That is the Trust;
...held in trust
Why can't we just redeem gold? Because we already spent it to Save the Fed! That is what FDR was pleading we cooperate with - saving the Fed by going into the New Trust (Deal) with our signature bonds on the backsides of the salary checks. He wanted us to form the new trust by endorsing it.
This is where the HJR-192 funding falls through for your fabrications.
Your constant attempts to convince me the birth certificate is being hypothecated on fail because HJR-192 (reinstatement of the gold clause) and the Emergency was ended in 1974-76. However, the emergency lives on in the Stipulation that another Bankers' Holiday may be called by either the President or the Secretary at any time - in order to save the Fed from the new Fed banks - the people supporting FDR's new trust of 1933.*
People do that by non-endorsing their paychecks. Remedy. That is the Solution. Same thing in this context. My responsibility, I feel, even with Internet Yarn is to make this as simple as possible. The hypothetical hypothecations you keep trying to fabricate are welcome as they express the same patriot mythologies that many suitors have broken free from. All that I did was help them to connect the dots - and when they kept trying and could not, they started seeking the simpler answer/solution/remedy naturally. It will come to light and that is what is so exciting about 'Saving to Suitors' Club!
As we redeem lawful money according to law, we are causing the Run on the Fed we bought out of in 1933 with all that gold.
Regards,
David Merrill.
* Pull up this image again and look at §502; This is all based in the 1917 Trading with the Enemy Act - the ability to seize gold during the War on the Great Depression. But we also find a duplicate citation - under the same number 95(a) that explains the same thing in different words. §95(b) of that duplication reads:
And of course moving on to §95(b) (click Next at the top) shows:...the Comptroller of the Currency may designate by proclamation any day a legal holiday for the national banking associations
§ 95b. Ratification of acts of President and Secretary of the Treasury under section 95a
The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by section 95a of this title, are approved and confirmed.
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P.S. Your spirit, and expressing things of the spirit is great except for the limitations of language make the discussion subject to interpretation. The demands are those that you put upon yourself. We actually all put these demands upon ourselves and let's face it; you are showing us other people's success stories here - not your own. [You are having scanner/camera troubles, remember?] If suitors and others do not want to make that demand of themselves that is fine by me. Many of them have provided small samplings for me to sanitize so that I can do the same thing you have done; show some food for thought about the reproducible mental models that are useful in practice day to day where we need to depend on expressing ourselves clearly.
What I am addressing is your consistent assertion that America's participation in FDR's gold seizure was somehow dishonest. He presented his new trust and people began signing their paychecks into it. The gold was spent to save the Fed America loves enough to murder Presidents over when they start getting in the way. Watch the driver's (William GREER) left hand closely.
Last edited by David Merrill; 03-18-11 at 11:49 AM.
Ok, I am going to take 1 or 2 last attempts at trying to clarify some things here, if we cannot make any headway then I am just going to be the majority here and sit back as an observer instead of a participant and be entertained because right now your making put more work into this then I ever had since we first started back in 2009, we have since then made it a lot simpler, with spirit comes faith, faith cannot really completely described on paper, you know the gut feeling inside that started this journey to begin with. This is attempts to address your thoughts by paragraph in post #13 and #14:
- Fine, yes finally something we can agree on is that I see the separation of remedy and solution and that is not the conscience of brain trust (paper trust).
- Fabrications; No i really do not care all about that, the fact that I even do mention accounting is for your benefit and not my own. We started out where you are all at now, but it is not where we ended up so again, I am going out of my element to help get you there, but by needing so much specific information within the confines of mammons law to complete a thought your making this more complicated then it has to be. Mammons law is the lesser of authority here, this maybe the other disagreement because of the suitors clause, to claim to be a suitor within that clause you all have to accept the lesser authority, mammons law. When you claim things upon this earth you become subject to it. That is a hard pill to swallow, but it is the truth that I know. The only time I claim anything it is first that the owner God has given to all as a gift for our use for the next generations, so when we give or receive it effects everyone in how we do that.
- Just as the states formed the United States of America in trust with each other because their representative signed on, yes the powers of separation with in that clause hold true. But despite this when the Hague was formed it created a New Trust with bringing the old trust USA into it as a whole. I see this through the chamber of commerces (plural) cities, and yes there is a United States Chamber of Commerce - http://www.uschamber.com/ as well as more up in the chain of hierchy such as Organization of American States - http://www.oas.org/en/member_states/default.asp You may not like it, but they did it anyway, and they could care less about what we think due to that Paderford vs. City of Savannah case have mentioned many times that we were not part of it. We are just " customers " to that corporation getting serviced as the DMV once told me. And you cannot get into the show without a ticket so you better have your Revenue Receipt ready. It is funny how basic life mimicks this, most movie theatres, you pay at the window to get a receipt/ticket coupon, then you the holder take that to the receiver to gain access into the show. Acts and Statutes (props) for your entertainment.
- NO, I did not say the HJR-192 emergency had ended, just the hoarding of Gold part of it. This actually happened where the Hoarding of Gold was lifted, tried to find again the act in which sealed this part of it where it makes it clear that the emergency was still in effect but the hoarding clause ended and could not find it so I had to use a substitute unfortunately since I am getting away from the whole statutory person thing we have all started deleting some of the garbage on our hard drives because of where we are at now.
- I know you keep on saying We because of this suitors clause thing and the hypothication that we are " We The People " in the constitution, I do not believe this because of a lot of things I said, but you go ahead and believe what you want, who am I to judge otherwise, one has a right to their own self determination, will you not give the same consideration?
This is reminding me of a lot of IRS letters received way in the past and others I have seen that it does not make one bit of difference what your argument is with them, they will always say that it is " frivolous " and continue to enforce their belief that you are the Person/Taxpayer they are looking for. If we are not the Person then are we really the Taxpayer or the one just giving energy into the society for consideration of energy returned which restores our bodies so we can keep giving back to society?
- I can agree that redeeming lawful money is a step in the right direction, BUT it is not the destination nor do I believe the suitors clause is either, for on lawful money who's seal is upon them greenbacks? NOT my families seal, so then who really owns it? Is Gold your God? In Reference to the one Article we should have all seen by now where Treasury was to be the Central Bank, yeah when we are in a lawful money system and makes sense because of the anthropology of the seals mentioned earlier. If all Lawful Money is kept at the central Bank and the bills get returned to following the order in the Liber Code Articles 31 and 38, do you suppose this is how indemnification happens? just like the old woman in the biblical story who gave all, do you suppose she was then indemnified ? Think about who's seal possibly was upon that coin she gave?
- Lastly in message #13 and Post #14 you are again throwing statutes at me that I really do not give a flip about, again I only mention them for your benefit. If I give everything for the benefit of all then do you suppose I would be indemnified?
If I do not own the legal title to the money or monetary system, should i be responsible for the accounting of it? I do not have a " We the People " Ego that limits my existence upon this earth. These papers, statutes, regs, the money, the metal when I claim ownership to them they limit my existence upon this earth that Promulgates the gift given to all of us by the creator. These Corporations who devise all these instruments taking resources from that gift are not my God Genesis 1:26 - 28.
This may not be your remedy, but it is my solution which many more of us are working towards. If you cannot accept that, then I post no more about any or this on the forum, as said before I will just remain an observer here in the background unless someone asks then as a fellow steward on the land who loves thy neighbor feel compelled to answer if thy spirit moves in that direction. When I get arrangements for some type of other scanner then I will just attach it to the same threads as the ones I have already started to keep it simple.
Peace be with you,
You are repeating your posts?
I explained about the rescission of the Emergency in my $10K-character post above. I have a lot more though. There is actually a book about it - the Senate Report is an entire book!
I made my point by showing you the Public Law as it was integrated into the US Code to officially end the emergency. And I pointed out, how the only potential emergency remaining is for people to begin redeeming lawful money by demand, and that is a perfectly acceptable option.
My guess is that by repeating a post you are saying, Here is the proof!
I believe that the MANTA link, which is by the way not the one you want anyway - you probably want the one that shows two million or so employees and OBAMA as the CEO, I have that link around somewhere and it demonstrates how the US government as a body politic operates in international commerce like a business. Looking around I just proved that the United States of America is an ice skating rink. The USA Inc. is a firm that never got off the ground for promoting sports events - look closely. If you start promoting that material as any "proof" the USA is a corporation though - your name is mud with me; for what that's worth. I am only reluctant because of the RAP/RuSA James Timothy TURNER crowd potentially misusing my research mind you - I am not accusing you of anything, I am just left with everybody trying to interprete you repeating posts without any explanation.
I said above that the demand for process-to-results images is what you are putting on yourself, Motla68. - After you indicated that I am demanding it of you. In the Rules on the Forums Main Page we find that we really don't have any yet. Aside from irrational rants and porn I doubt Admin will be banishing anybody soon. If you demand to be believed though; the images will be necessary - speaking for myself only.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Well Turner and his posse are not what we are about either, there was a " guardian " he called himself from that group who infiltrated one of our meetings, questions were asked, but thankfully he is a friend too so he showed some respect until the meeting was over and talked to me about his beliefs, I had already read most of them online of course though.
He tried one more time and then after that I hear from him no more about it.
Everything else it is what it is until I get some scanned images up here I guess. We encourage those in our group though to ask the questions so they may receive the answers as well right from the horses mouth so to speak. The cat has been let out of the bag so to speak more so lately and government has become less and less responsive which makes it difficult for growth in the way of our intended purpose.
Peace be with you.
I am sure MJ remembers just about everything that is interesting - like your agreement.
My point, like with MENARD's papering package is that it is outside the sheriff's charter to be filing papers that are private, or outside his scope of operations. That is what I was talking about though; you say it was setting on his desk and he did not know what to do with it. That is my point.
With Rob's papering package though we would have multiple government officials receiving the same package from multiple World Freeman Society members. It is not in the charter of the offices being papered to go to OfficeMax and buy an extra filing cabinet for this sort of paper material - for one thing. It is just not part of their job to be tracking who are the Freemen and who are the Sheeple or whatever you want to call these groups you propose on segregating in society.
Rob drinking publicly at the bus station in downtown Toronto at midnight was simply tolerated probably because of some stupid reason, like as far as homeless drunks there go, Rob seemed pretty civil. Now that could be considered a private contract in a way, compliment the officer for doing a fine job - which was Rob's way and you might get the impression your paper package was doing its job in the background. But when the rubber hits the road, there really are no private contracts like you described because the public is the official's boss at the end of the day and the public would quickly impeach or by any means replace your sheriff if he ever admitted to anything like what you describe.
Then there is a spiritual side of things too. I could go on and on about how wonderful the world is when you get right with God. I cannot describe what I do much better than intelligence nexus or that I draft remedy and that always just leads to more questions. How about, I am High Priest of the DEITI?
[Dutch East Indies Trading Industry]
That one got a few laughs but think about it a while after reading this post.
P.S. Oh!! I almost forgot!
I am DAVID MERRILL.
David Merrill am I. [KJV - Here am I, LORD.] Page 1, Page 2.
David means Beloved. Mara means Master and the suffix El means Of God. [DANIEL - Judge of God.] Ergo, my title DAVID MERRILL (constructive trust) is Beloved Master of God.
Last edited by David Merrill; 03-18-11 at 10:29 PM.
Motla's agreement was quite interesting in deed. As he decided to gain a private agreement with the local sheriff. How many will strike up an agreement with a sheriff? Most EXPECT that the sheriff is their servant - Why? If Motla should decide to offer any further detail that will be his choice. I will keep his trust.
Michael - Who is like the El - God [Yehovah]
Joseph - Yehovah gives the increase
I'll let you figure out what it means to speak that name. Yet I am proud to be called Michael Joseph, a member of the Spiritual Commonwealth of Yisra'el [Israel].
"Who will go for us: is the call: Here am I, send me was the response from yeshayahu [Isaiah] = Yehovah is Salvation.
Isa 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
The Temple was cleansed by Yehovah in 1433 BC [I believe]. Man asked for a king - so Yehovah consented - but Yehovah NEVER waived the bylaws of the Trust Agreement - Torah.
Even in the days of Zachariah [Remembered of Yehovah]:
Zec 2:7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon.
Yehoshua = Yehovah Saves [Once] - Now get on with it - Life. According to Torah - which is really expressed in just two fundamental laws - Love your God and Love your fellow Man.
Torah can easily be known just by observation of Nature. In fact one really need not attend any building on a corner - most are "bethaven" - Houses of vanity - the bad fig - what seest thou Jeremiah? The greatest source of power and control comes from Beth-aven. The people TRUST pastor.
Hos 4:15 Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend; and come not ye unto Gilgal, neither go ye up to Bethaven, nor swear, The LORD liveth.
H1007
bêyth 'âven
bayth aw'-ven
From H1004 and H205; house of vanity;
For those who don't know Gilgal is where one of the School's of the Prophets was convened. There is a deeper message here for those who can see. I shall touch on the surface....What? - you think the "priests" at beth-aven are ordained of Yehovah? These come from the "cemetary" - i mean seminary - divinity schools.
Some Keep the Sabbath this way.
To those who can see: The following is an express Trust of God in the Election. God Trusting in his Election.
Isa 6:13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.
"their leaves" is NOT in the manuscript.
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1. Now he is my employee to where I no longer receiving his services as a benefit through the state, if we are in a state court then he has to bend to their bidding, but if he now interferes with my intent in there he is in breach of contract, some may call it breach of trust.
2. Back in the civil war days, Lincoln and the liber code, the counties had posse comitatus and the hightest ranking officer was the county sheriff, also known as the HIgh Sheriff, But he also had another hat which was Provost Marshall which is only answerable to the Provost Marshall General.
A North Carolina Provost Marshall:
http://newbern.cpclib.org/digital/reed/xxv017.htm
" After the close of the war, officials in Richmond appointed Sheriff Turner as Provost Marshall. Turner organized two companies under command of Reynolds and Penn with “authority to organize a military court to try these marauders and execute or imprison them.” The county ordered the sheriff to organize militia “for the purpose of suppressing the lawless outrages now being committed. The county stipulated, however, that this militia was “not intended to interfere in any manner with the authority of the United States or any other legitimate state of Federal Government.”
souce: http://www.freestateofpatrick.com/rjrh.htm
PMG:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provost_Marshal_General
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