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[motla68]

Wouldn't the standing and/or required oath of office of this public servant be the "contract" which would render the same results? I offer that the required oath of office is charitable in nature and is given FREELY to anyone who will clearly and declaratively accept it as a voluntary promise to do what you say this man does for you in private. I also believe that the acceptance of this "promise" is non-binding, non-obligating and non-subjugating to the acceptor since it is God-given rights which are being voluntarily protected - God's work. We are mostly deceived into a mindset and notion that we should accept only the "enforcement officer" role which has jurisdiction over us rather than the "peace officer" role which is there only to keep the peace and to protect and serve our inherent rights derived from the Almighty Creator.

This is the "dual roles" concept I have been discussing and developing regarding the oath-sworn officers/agents we may encounter. My stance is that the role that manifests depends on us; how we identify ourselves, and our absence from their "contracted fealty" by and through our demand for, and right to, lawful money. In other words, we refuse consent/contract to be re-venued into their district overlays as is our unalienable right.

I believe that this private agreement you present is already existing in public form - the oath of office, according to requirements of law upon those who occupy these "offices". The acceptance of of these charitable oaths can be fully disclosed and filed in the public record without the need to keep private and secret agreements which will possibly be terminated when "crunch time" comes. Of course a verbal inquiry and acceptance of an officer's "oath-sworn status" works during an encounter with someone you are unfamiliar with. The officer must then lie on the stand when and if he/she is questioned in court about your inquiry and acceptance.

Perhaps you could reveal a generic version of this agreement for us to peruse in order to get a better idea of what you claim to have accomplished.

Rom 2:11 - For there is no respect of persons with God.
Soon as he puts on that "uniform" his loyalty is to the state, in the statutes their is rules of Uniform Trust and those Oath's office are also color of law, not to mention that the word Public has it's own municipal corporate tie ins. All of man is equal, but when he puts on that uniform then there is unequality authority so for me to accept him as even a public peace officer within the law of mammon it is waiving the abundance of natural rights for color of law/bowl of soup which is a lesser of authority if that makes any sense.

Your second paragraph, your on the right track, accepting the color of law which is not of my Creator is re-venuing. Be a creator.

The state and all of it's underlying agents are going through great lengths to hide these oaths of office if they exist, in some instance there is not oath of office at all, but since I was not part of the constitution (paderford vs. City of Savannah) their authority could care less about our complaints about it. No more remedies, being a creator of solutions here.

Since all this is still theory of operation I dare not put a sample up, no proof that it actually did anything yet .

[motla68]

Ergo, this is why he said it is laying on his desk and he does not know what to do with it. There is no such thing as private or secret law! You just demonstrated that for us - finally. I have to point out how annoying it is for you to pussyfoot around, like you are trying to tell us/me something worth hearing, and because of your misperceptions about public and private, when it finally comes down to showing us/me, you try making it sound like I have been ignorant or stupid for not understanding what you are showing us/me - before you have described or shown us/me.

There is no secret or private law - ergo you have no contract with your sheriff any different than anybody else who clicks the Donation Button Contribute Online on the right, and gives money to the sheriff's department.

Here is what I suggest you do then. You publish your agreement and receipt with the sheriff at the county clerk and recorder. If you have a marked Received or Filed copy from when you tendered it, publish that one. Then you might serve the original from the C&R on him again and publish the Proof of Service. Recordation. Publication. Now everybody knows you two have established private international law between whatever - my guess is between a statesman in the unincorporated county and the sheriff for the incorporated county - bringing his services into the unincorporated county for your private use as a man there, on the land there.

When you get it published, you might as well show us here too. Of course you might sanitize it a bit as far as your abode's location and your full legal name and such. That is because we are not really the neighbors you need to be notifying about all the details. I assure you that there is no such thing as private or secret law - that has any effect outside the scope of the parties signed and/or served. [The Masons have their "jurisdictions" too, but if you don't like the esoterics, resign or quit paying your dues/tax. I assure you that HARRISON cannot act as the Sheriff for them, and the sheriff for you at the same time, in two different capacities until you publish the agreement. That would be like him acting as Sheriff and Mason at the same time.] The sheriff cannot act on your process or he will be terminated. Once published people might get a little ragged about it but at least people may follow in your footsteps and contract for his protective and law enforcement services privately too.

Very clever, find the funding in the county CAFR and divide that per capita! Pay that amount in lawful money and you effectively "own" your portion of the sheriff's attention.
P.S. Once you have that all in place and published send it to the State Department for publication under that same Private International Law doctrine you linked! That will be really clever.

P.P.S. After doing all this it will be interesting to see if through private international treaty you get any different attention than covered in the sheriff's oath of office. But you will have achieved in my opinion a private agreement for the identical services everybody else does publicly. You will be able to easily R4C any assumpsit presentments following a 911 emergency, for example.

I guess you missed the part where I met with him in person and explained what it was about and he did a handshake on it. ( this natural law is a lost art that needs restored)

Revenuing this agreement into the public is not my choice, some of those reasons are in my reply to Anthony in post #41 of this thread.

[motla68]

P.S. I suspect that the county attorney will R4C your publication publicly and refund your donation, within three days.

P.P.S. You said something about 2004? You realize by dividing the CAFR per capita you are only paying for a one year contract at a time? Your agreement expired in 2005 if you have not kept up your end.

The agreement had no expiration date and in the notice it lets him know if more funds are needed to do his job to let me know. The calculation of how I came up with that figure were not in the notice, it was just a general rule to figure out what to offer. The money order also did have the lawful money statement on it so that was covered too.

[Michael Joseph]

That hand shake is notice of agreement Under Natural Law.

In the converse:

Pro 22:26 Be not thou one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts.

[motla68]

motla68,

I am glad to see you are still here. From my own legal training I can tell you, any Contract you have with the Sheriff is outside his Official Capacity. He can come to your aid as a friend, but if he did so in his Uniform, with Official ID or a Badge or even Identified his "self" verbally as the SHERIFF, he would be

"Impersonating a POLICE OFFICER. Look up that Statute, it will most likely include this statement: "even if the AGENCY the person is representing does not exist..."

If he acts privately for YOU, under your contract, even if you claim he was doing so as your AGENT, you have no AGENCY.

There is no County of motla68 Sheriffs Department, no taxing authority, no record, no survey, no RE-COGNITION of your "nation". His recognized authority as a Sheriff only exists inside his County. If you are inside his county, you cannot be a FREEMAN, only a person of some sort.

There is NO Statute or "crime" I have ever seen titled "Impersonating a Peace Officer", why?

Because they are not the same thing, at all.

From my own life, I can tell you this: When I left one Police Department and went to work for another, in the gap between my employment, the Brass was very clear to tell me this:

"YOU are NOT allowed to enforce any STATE, or LOCAL Statute that is not a Breech of the peace or a violent felony in progress. Even if you do have those elements, you cannot IDENTIFY yourself as a POLICE OFFICER, nor wear any ID."


I was still a STATE Certified Peace officer, but I could not do any POLICE duties, until I was employed as by an AGENCY.

I have seen retired officers arrested for wearing their old Department Patched uniform shirts for Boy Scout fund raising events. Even Halloween party goers have been charged for wearing official Police uniforms.

Your sheriff could face the same fate should he act as a Police officer (or Sheriff) under your agreement without question. And, nothing he did for YOU would hold any legal authority with the county.

That is not to say he might pull some strings politically for you or quietly tell his deputies to back off you, but like I warned already, he will not give up his paycheck and pension for you or go to jail.

That is a local effect, it is not a remedy or a solution unless you never plan on leaving his county without recognizable paperwork with their SEAL on it.

A ruling from an Article III District court trumps the guys with guns because it LEGALLY and LAWFULLY binds those guys to their Oaths of OFFICE, which is the only Contract with their signature on it that counts because it's Bonded by their own currency as a man or woman.

Even the demons RECOGNIZED the Master, but most State agents do not have that cognitive ability, but they recognize a District Court SEAL. While I do not accept their MARK on me, I will let their Mark provide COGNITION of my standing to them in a language, seal and symbols they UNDERSTAND.

Its only fair.

Peace be with you.

Again you all are trying to completely justify this by mammons law, are you all forgetting about the Providence and being a agent/ambassador of the one most high? I am sure you all heard about the biblical phrase one cannot have 2 masters. I am not going to try an think things out for this man nor am I going to try and predict the future, I can only live in the now.

[motla68]

That hand shake is notice of agreement Under Natural Law.

In the converse:

Pro 22:26 Be not thou one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts.

If you recall this agreement took place in 2004, well before we created Coresource Solution in 2009, I think a little differently these days, all it is used for is a conversation piece since I have never had to use it since creating it. The new found knowledge way of life is working for me so I doubt it will be needed for anything.

Technically though we all have fallen short of that verse, with CS going in the direction of a resourced based society we are at least have an intent to go by it unlike a lot of other groups out there who are trying to enforce 20 or 30 million dollar liens, which you should know by now having been at local meetings and our other conversations.

[martin earl]

Again you all are trying to completely justify this by mammons law, are you all forgetting about the Providence and being a agent/ambassador of the one most high? I am sure you all heard about the biblical phrase one cannot have 2 masters. I am not going to try an think things out for this man nor am I going to try and predict the future, I can only live in the now.

No, I am not trying to JUSTIFY. Nor am I a servant of Mammon. But I do know more about Cops and their belief system than you do. The Sheriff is a SWORN SERVANT of what you call "mammons law". It is his JOB to uphold and protect that system. That is the sum of everything I have posted.

He is backed by an ARMY men, Judges, Attorneys and spiritual criminals who defy your "natural law" every day with ZERO repercussions.

You have no STANDING to make him do anything, he answers to the System he serves and gets paid very well to serve.

"In the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses shall all truth be established."

If you put more stock in the witness of the Spirit to a fallen man in the service of the System than he does, that is YOUR error, not his.

Remember, there where Roman Soldiers near the Cross who testified of Jesus STANDING, but they did nothing to stop it.

Do not try to say I do not believe the Spirit cannot move people, I am proof it can, that is why I am here and not still strapping a gun on every day and "protecting and serving" the Spirit has witnessed to me EXACTLY what and WHO they are "protecting and serving".

Those men under-stand ONE THING, their own LAWS and STATUTES. I can use those laws and statutes just like Christ did, to show them they have no jurisdiction over ME and in their own diction and rules they do not rule over me.

Everything else is just a "patriot/religious conspiracy nut case and dangerous" because they are TRAINED that way.

You may be lucky enough to have a Sheriff who is different, but again, that is not the norm and it is not a protection for the rest of us who do not have that blessing.

In short, you have provided me nothing here from a Law enforcement stand point or a natural law standpoint that would have bound me when I was a Cop.

David has, it fits everything I know about natural law, Statutes, civil law, trust law, Scriptural Law et al.

And, more importantly THEY know it and are bound by it when I have the witness of a District Court to SEAL IT.

"Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven..."

That means truth and law it is re-cognizable no matter what "law" or god you are claiming you serve. There must be ORDER, because my God is not a God of Chaos, but one of Law and Order.

By your own statements your FAITH in your agreement has not been tested by fire. MINE HAS and not one of my former "brothers in arms" stood by me, in fact, they relished the thought of proving me wrong, including a Sheriff I once risked my own life to protect. They love the idea of seeing a "believer" fed to lions or at least, in cages with the rest of thieves and criminals. Been there, done that.

Peace be with you.

[David Merrill]

The agreement had no expiration date and in the notice it lets him know if more funds are needed to do his job to let me know. The calculation of how I came up with that figure were not in the notice, it was just a general rule to figure out what to offer. The money order also did have the lawful money statement on it so that was covered too.

The agreement expired a year later in 2005. You explained that already. Unless you are trying to get one over on the sheriff - six or seven years for the price of one. If you did not explain the fee evaluation from the CAFR in your conversation then you handshake is useless. Your money order was nothing more than a donation like many other people make.

Otherwise you have a pretty keen plan for not paying the taxes on the public collection system like everybody else though. However, you will probably end up paying more for fire, 911 service, police (because 911 connects to police, not the sheriff) and whatever else you select from the CAFR menu. Remember, that you cannot report a robbery to the sheriff if you are in city limits - the sheriff will refer you to police. If you out in the county though, then you will get a deputy.

I like the theory though. It is just that you do not gain anything by it and I just do not buy into your theories about mammon and the system. I think you are better enjoying your sovereignty by using the system from a lawful money standpoint. That is why the remedy is there to begin with. It is there because in 1913 the Fed was created to furnish elastic currency.

This deception and false balances of only paying the sheriff for one year and thinking he is obligated forever really bugs me about your method too.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[motla68]

The agreement expired a year later in 2005. You explained that already. Unless you are trying to get one over on the sheriff - six or seven years for the price of one. If you did not explain the fee evaluation from the CAFR in your conversation then you handshake is useless. Your money order was nothing more than a donation like many other people make.

Otherwise you have a pretty keen plan for not paying the taxes on the public collection system like everybody else though. However, you will probably end up paying more for fire, 911 service, police (because 911 connects to police, not the sheriff) and whatever else you select from the CAFR menu. Remember, that you cannot report a robbery to the sheriff if you are in city limits - the sheriff will refer you to police. If you out in the county though, then you will get a deputy.

I like the theory though. It is just that you do not gain anything by it and I just do not buy into your theories about mammon and the system. I think you are better enjoying your sovereignty by using the system from a lawful money standpoint. That is why the remedy is there to begin with. It is there because in 1913 the Fed was created to furnish elastic currency.

This deception and false balances of only paying the sheriff for one year and thinking he is obligated forever really bugs me about your method too.

Ok, you got your beliefs about that and I really do not care to argue the point any more mostly because have never needed to use it anyway also I do not think the same way today that I did back then about the system/mammon or the bible.

[David Merrill]

Understood. Thank you anyway! You have opened up some great new doors with your research. I will get back on a new thread soon.