Do you receive an income?

[Casper]

When you use the SOP of society and sign the check and deposit it into the bank. They are essentially negotiating the check on your behalf for bank credit or federal reserve credit/notes. At no time did they discharge the debt via the treasury. The whole progression of events was handled via the banking system. THIS is the taxable event...not your work or labor or service or employment. That would be slavery.

This applies when you are a "resident" and "U.S. person" on your bank application and evidenced by your interstate commerce "operator license" for use within "this state" (federal zone) you voluntarily provided. You also agreed to abide by Title 26 on your bank contract.

Plenty of nationals around here have checking accounts as non-resident, non U.S. persons, with no such taxable event even without any redeeming. So what really is the "taxable event"? Is it the fact the income is effectively connected to a trade or business (holding a public office) within the United States (District) as federal personnel (SS#) while using FRN's as an agent?

A Guatamalan national has worked here for my father for 32 years, since she first came over as a refugee illegal alien. She has never made an election to be treated as a citizen of the United States to hold that public office (file a 1040), and has never been hassled. She lives better than most "residents". She pays all lawful taxes for her status, sales tax, alcohol, tobacco, gas, etc. Really smart lady. There are whole communities set up here that cater to her status as a non-resident.

[Jethro]

12 years ago in my zeal to be right, I remember demanding a SSN from a lady who provided some nanny services for my family. She would not give me one. I actually called the IRS to see if I could get her SSN from them. Looking back I think to myself HOW ABSURD I was in those days. Nevertheless, the IRS agent informed me that if I could not get a SSN I was still required to report the transaction and I could still use that transaction as a deduction on the return.

Very interesting admission they provided you, MJ! So when the payee refuses or cannot provide a SSN to a payor, the payor (taxpayer) must still report, although the "benefit" of reporting is for the payor, but with presumably no liability to the payee.

Did you ever "backup withhold" on a payee who did not provide a SSN?

[Jethro]

Jethro, I can only speak for myself since I know what my status is. My heritage traces back to the early 1600s in one of the original colonies, said ancestors became landholders in 1640. They predated our nations Organic Laws and were the original Constitutional Citizens, and especially they predated the 14th Amendment citizenship. As a natural-born of a state of the Union, at some point I voluntarily made the election to be treated as a US citizen for tax purposes (a privilege), around the age of 16. Which was when I also was told of my need for applying for a SS#, which I later discovered I was not even eligible for since the 50 states are not included in the 1935 Social Security Act [Section 1101(a)(1) and 1101(a)(2)] codified at 42 USC 1301(a)(1) and 1301(a)(2). I also discovered the SS Act was for a "person" defined in the Social Security Act at Section 1101(a)(3) and (a)(4). I have seen no evidence that I am such a said "person". It was never explained to me that I had other options.

I recently had to resign that trustee relationship due to my religious objections, and so unfortunately I was no longer eligible to hold a "public office". So I revoked the original election to be treated as a US citizen for tax purposes by an Affidavit to the appropriate parties. Sadly, I no longer have the privilege to file. However, as I stated earlier, there are plenty of other foreign nationals that live and work here and are doing just fine. The fedgov seems to roll out the red carpet for them, and respects their rights more than mere "residents". I have learned much from them. If someone asks me for a 1099 form to be filed, I just use the appropriate form for a foreign national (without the United States). A SS# is not required to live and work in the United States. The 1099 is a tax class 5 doc, and is not evidence of a tax liability, nor would it change my status. It is not even signed, much less a jurat. Showing the person who remunerates you for your labor copies of your revocation, the certain laws passed by Congress, and the correct forms, should suffice. A payor cannot deem you a US citizen/"public officer". FYI, read the passport application form DS-11 for the 2 passport options citizens/nationals and research which option is appropriate for you.

If you are a US citizen, employed within the United States, in that public office, I recommend you return for your privilege. Redeeming lawful money is an interesting option.

Thanks for the reply, Casper, though my question is -- what to do when, given one has done everything you have done, a payor ignores or disregards it and issues you 1099's anyway? (And then IRS uses those 1099's to create liabilities for you). I'm interested in hearing about theories as to what remedies are available to us.

[Michael Joseph]

Did you ever "backup withhold" on a payee who did not provide a SSN?

No I never have.

[Casper]

Jethro, the law is that "income not effectively connected to a trade or business [public office] within the United States Government is not subject to any tax under Subtitle A of the tax code." That quote comes directly from a letter from Trust #62 on their own letterhead, dated December 1995 in the Philadelphia office, from a Disclosure Officer. I downloaded that from SEDM.org. I have dozens of those types of letters. Even if the payor files a 1099 in error, it could not "create" a liability if you do not meet those requirements. The paperwork you provide will prevent this issue. You revoking that initial election IS the remedy that Congress gave you. If you go this path, don't ever fill out a W-4 or file a 1040 or else you will be treated that way again. Use the forms for a foreign national. Private sector companies hire foreign nationals all the time and are familiar with that paperwork.

The letter also stated "the tax code is not positive law, it is "special law". It applies to "persons" in the United States [federal zone] who choose to make themselves subject to the requirements of the special laws in the Internal Revenue Code by entering in to an employment agreement within the U.S. government." ["Internal" being municipal laws of the government in DC., and employment agreement being a "W-4" Application]

Lots of resources here including Michael L. White letter: http://www.weissparis.com/resource.html
Also here: http://www.weissparis.com/july4.html
The implementing regulation for Title 26 was never published in the Federal Register, so it is not for without the United States [50 states united]. A law does not have to be positive law or published in the Federal Register for within the United States [DC and territories]. For example the NDAA, Patriot Act, Obamacare were never published in the Federal Register for the people out in the 50 states. Unless by your agreements, you voluntarily opted in and consented to be governed by it. Federal means by agreement. That can be between fed and state, or fed and you. I choose not to contract with them.

[Jethro]

Thanks for the response, Casper, and I fully understand and agree with your position. But I still go back to my original question -- what if ALL of that (i.e. revocation of election, etc.) is ignored? What if one is treated as a "person" with "income effectively connected to a trade or business" when in fact, one is not? What if one's property is taken? What remedies are available to us? (I have some thoughts, but I'm interested in hearing yours and others' ideas).

[Casper]

Well, DC has already implemented all 10 planks of communism, we are now in a police state, so there are no guarantees Trust #62 in Puerto RICO will abide by law. That is all you can do, is correct your status, abide by law and save your evidence. If they break their own laws and are lawless, then we truly are in trouble. Redeeming is always a good option no matter what path you choose. This guy uses a 6203 demand: http://www.pauljjhansen.com/?cat=108

Do not argue merits as that may imply jurisdiction in their eyes. Get them to prove everything. They can not.

[Chex]

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[Chex]

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Property tax: This is the second case where people walked away from the case, per instruction by their attorney, and I paid no property tax. Currently doing 6 others with the same process. http://freeinhabitant.info/pay-no-pr...operty-tax.htm

PROPERTY TAX.ORDER DENYING PLAINTIFF'S MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20ORCO%2020121212581

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[Casper]

I found Paul's site a couple months ago and read all his stuff. Emailed him a couple times. Good guy who is a doer. He has some good mp3 recorded radio interviews (2 hrs each) you may enjoy about the way he lives his life. I have learned a thing or two from him. He has a great grasp of jurisdiction and seems to be knowledgable in Ed Rivera and Paul Andrew Mitchell's work. I think I recall him recently saying he owns 28 properties and hasn't paid property tax in years, he had them moved to the other side of the ledger.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-879305.mp3
http://godspropertyradio.podomatic.c...09_20_31-07_00