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    The Ten Horns

    Phillip Goodman wrote an article entitled "The Identity of the 7 Heads and the 10 Horns on the Beast of Revelation 13". His list is below with Iran being designated as the 11th. Unlike many who are trying to force the USA into prophecy he keeps focus likely were it should be. While the United States might be under a special kind of conquest of Great Britain or perhaps of Rome, it seems rather evident that de jure and organic America separated from Britain around 1776.

    1. Britain
    2. France
    3. Spain
    4. Italy
    5. Germany
    6. Greece
    7. Turkey
    8. Syria
    9. Egypt
    10. Iraq
    11. Iran
    Unlike many, he takes a perhaps less Western-European(Arabian?)-centric view following the idea of Eastern 5 Toes/Horns and Western 5 Toes/Horns.

    The people pushing the USA into the wrong focus might also likely into Scofieldism and not wanting to see that the woman riding the beast might have something to do with a Roman or Babylonian religion rather than a North American one. Perhaps the American Colonists recognized this and Divine Providence worked in favor of the American Colonists because they knew what they might have been dealing with?

    And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. Daniel 7:27
    All the attention the USA has been getting just might be a big distraction.

    Related:

    Europe In Bible Prophecy
    Cyrus Scofield - Who Was He?
    The Greatest Hoax

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    At the time Alcasar wrote, the Protestant Reformers considered the Papal system of the Roman Catholic Church to be the end-time antichrist. The Reformers were nearly unanimous in identifying the Papacy as the Great Harlot of Revelation 17. “For Martin Luther,” a representative of this view, “the Catholic Church was nothing more or less than Babylon — ‘it would be no wonder,’ he wrote in 1520, ‘if God would rain fire and brimstone from heaven and sink Rome into the abyss, as He did Sodom and Gomorrah of old’ — and the pope the Antichrist. ‘If he is not,’ Luther exclaimed, ‘then somebody tell me who is!’”(2) Hundreds of years of Protestant anti-Catholic rhetoric could fill a small library.

    For centuries the papacy was the unanimous antichrist candidate.(3) The papal system was identified as “both the ‘man of sin’ and the Babylonian whore of which Scripture speaks (2 Thess. 2; Rev. 17–18). In the conviction of the sixteenth-century Protestants, Rome was the great anti-Christ, and so firmly did this belief become established that it was not until the nineteenth century that it was seriously questioned by evangelicals.”(4) For example, the Westminster Confession of Faith (1647) included the following in Chapter 25 section 6:

    There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof: but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalteth himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.(5)

    The antichrist designation was removed in 1789 in the American edition. The revised article reads, “There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof.”
    And first it seems to us that John, this apostle and evangelist who is called the Theologian, was exiled onto Patmos by Nero at the very same time in which he killed the blessed apostles of Christ Peter and Paul. . . . [and] that the Apocalypse was written on Patmos before the destruction of Jerusalem. - Johannis Hentenius of Louvain or John Henten (1499-1566)
    For perspectives rather than for argument. So much propaganda to make America out to be "Mystery Babylon". Perhaps Mystery Babylon has crept into or upon America?

    Related: External Evidence for An Early Date of Revelation (i.e. before 70AD); Roman activity to destroy original Christianity in the Northern African regions may be mentioned in The Church History of Ethiopia (1696 orig Dutch(?))
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    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    I feel that the Book of Revelation is John's uncontrolled release of DMT (dimethyltryptamine) steeped in an early study of the Christian Kabbalah. This is much the same as visions like found in the early chapters of Ezekiel. It is nearly impossible to get my point through negative connotations about the word "cabala" - which has two different meanings in the two different spellings I have just offered...

    But you might get a look at this attachment and then the end of The Book of Revelation, that Jesus proclaims, I am the seed and offspring of David. In the apocalyptic mysticism of the time then, this has a certain significance that I brushed off for a simpler interpretation for many years of studying the Book of Revelation. Also, Christians peddling this local brand of Charismatic psychological rape (exorcism under the guise, Deliverance Ministry) have left a bad taste in my mouth.

    Interestingly though, this perspective allows one to form many takes on revelation to be true simultaneously. My imagination is wandering about the possibility of recovering Jesus' luz bone (base of the skull) from the 1980 discovery of His family tomb and drilling it for some complete DNA. That would be interesting to examine what the man actually looked like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Phillip Goodman wrote an article entitled "The Identity of the 7 Heads and the 10 Horns on the Beast of Revelation 13". His list is below with Iran being designated as the 11th. Unlike many who are trying to force the USA into prophecy he keeps focus likely were it should be. While the United States might be under a special kind of conquest of Great Britain or perhaps of Rome, it seems rather evident that de jure and organic America separated from Britain around 1776.



    Unlike many, he takes a perhaps less Western-European(Arabian?)-centric view following the idea of Eastern 5 Toes/Horns and Western 5 Toes/Horns.

    The people pushing the USA into the wrong focus might also likely into Scofieldism and not wanting to see that the woman riding the beast might have something to do with a Roman or Babylonian religion rather than a North American one. Perhaps the American Colonists recognized this and Divine Providence worked in favor of the American Colonists because they knew what they might have been dealing with?



    All the attention the USA has been getting just might be a big distraction.

    Related:

    Europe In Bible Prophecy
    Cyrus Scofield - Who Was He?
    The Greatest Hoax

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    The ten are not kings they are commercial powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    I feel that the Book of Revelation is John's uncontrolled release of DMT (dimethyltryptamine) steeped in an early study of the Christian Kabbalah. This is much the same as visions like found in the early chapters of Ezekiel. It is nearly impossible to get my point through negative connotations about the word "cabala" - which has two different meanings in the two different spellings I have just offered...
    Part of Revelations seems to exactly parallel the Book of Daniel as well. In that John doesn't seem to be all too inventive. However, many seem to have gotten inventive with Revelations for the purpose of manipulating. Those who rejected the notion of Jesus Christ being any Messiah have had to project a similitude of the past onto the future and had to go through great lengths to support their idea of a coming Messiah and also to divert the light of Revelations from being too revealing (of themselves). Its pretty simple--but the deception might be well defined as 'mind-boggling'.

    One key factor is that in all of history is how arduously both Romanesque and Islamic (which Alberto Rivera and others assert is a creation of Romanesque influence) influences have worked together to destroy and subdue non-Constantine Christians from North Africa and Palestine to North America to Asia. If Revelations were trivial mental fluff its odd how well it has played out when read minus the spin doctoring.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Also, Christians peddling this local brand of Charismatic psychological rape (exorcism under the guise, Deliverance Ministry) have left a bad taste in my mouth.
    If what you refer to as a "local brand of Charismatic psychological rape" refers to something modern, perhaps it might be an offshoot of Scofieldism and designed to snare many under the guise of it being Biblical. The trouble might be that few might be saavy enough to disassociate that with the Bible. Some might refer to it as "Dispensationalist Dementia". Its important to consider that this whole revision of the past and projection onto the future of past events might very well be coming out of Rome. That many "Christians" are or have been set up to believe something cooked up for to deception. It always seemed very clear to me that many things Jesus was written as having said about events were events that would "come quickly" in the sense of by 70AD rather than with a two-thousand-or-so year wait.

    So this great propaganda machine has set out to fabricate and stir up events in order to match their projection of the past onto the future--with the operators of that machine outing themselves in the process.

    Remember that time you said someone was out to undermine the New Thought meeting you came across? This might all be related.

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    Reagan was sworn into office on Jan 20, 1981 on the WEST WING of the Capitol Building, all previous Presidents took their oath of office on the East side of the building. This was done so that Reagan would face the Washington Monument (obelisk) during his swearing in ceremony as President of the United States.

    (Reagan re-established diplomatic relations with the Vatican in 1984.) (Related: Ronald Reagan and the Pope)
    “...a secret sign was to be given to the Jesuits world-wide when the ecumenical movement had successfully wiped out Protestantism, in preparation for the signing of a concordat between the Vatican and the U.S. The sign was to be when a president of the U.S. took his oath of office facing an obelisk.” The God Fathers; Alberto pt 3, pg 26.
    From March 4, 1837 when Martin Van Buren was inaugurated through to January 20, 1977 when Jimmy Carter was inaugurated, the ceremony was conducted on the East Portico of the Capitol Building. But when it came to Ronald Reagan it all of a sudden changed to the West Front of the Capitol Building, from whence one looks to the west straight to one of the biggest obelisks.
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    If you are disposed I would recommend that you might read - LUCIFERS CHILDREN - by Milan Martin

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    The ten are not kings they are commercial powers.

    Remember, all of the heads of Holy Roman Empire kingdoms were crowned/anointed by the same.

    Napoleon I crowned himself.

    At the moment of the crowning when the Pope said, "Receive the imperial crown...", Napoleon unexpectedly turned and, forestalling the Pope, removed his laurel wreath and crowned himself and then crowned the kneeling Joséphine with a small crown surmounted by a cross, which he had first placed on his own head.
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    Taking the perspective of a neutral observer, the foregoing is made plain and makes many things plain.

    Also, AFAIK a king was held to have right to profit from enterprises as part of his reign.

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    The American Revolution is spun into a bad light as a rebellion because it meant separation from both the British Monarchy and the Holy Roman Empire and there have been those out to undo that.

    The movement or effort that is is out to piss people off (through false impersonation) and make people hate true Bible believers seems to be the same movement that is out to piss the world off and hate people of America (through false impersonation). Imagine being encouraged to start the study recognizing a dragon by standing in its mouth but without knowing that you're standing in its mouth since you don't know how to recognize dragons--well, obviously the realization that one is standing in its mouth is key to one's safety.

    Related:
    Cyrus I Scofield Pope of Premillennialism / Dispensationalist Dementia.
    What Is a Dispensation?
    The American Revolution and War of Independence was not a Rebellion
    Simon Magus (Samarian Magician)
    Simon Peter vs Simon the Sorcerer
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    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    Michael Joseph it appears that the above video (1 out of 14) is related to that book.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
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    The ten are not kings they are commercial powers.

    Thank you for that reference Michael Joseph.....Milan Martin calls them "Kingdomless Kings of the New World Order".....10 powerful family dynasties

    see 0:43 - 3:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlfDIFXiB3Q

    and again @ 4:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADjICpoP2rw


    "...Thy Will be done in earth, as It is in heaven"
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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Part of Revelations seems to exactly parallel the Book of Daniel as well. In that John doesn't seem to be all too inventive. However, many seem to have gotten inventive with Revelations for the purpose of manipulating. Those who rejected the notion of Jesus Christ being any Messiah have had to project the past onto the future and had to go through great lengths to support their idea of a coming Messiah and also to divert themselves being revealed by Revelations. Its pretty simple--but the deception might be well defined as 'mind-boggling'.
    Daniel, Revelation, Mark 13, Luke 21, Matthew 24 are all cross sections, profiles of the same concept. The birthing of the man-child and the revealing of the man of sin. What is happening within man [who occupies in society] will manifest itself in Society.

    The symbolic nature of Christ JESUS blinds those from seeing Jesus CHRIST. This is a double edged sword. On one hand there is a moral code on the other CHRIST. On one hand there is flesh on the other elohims. On one hand it is my will be done, on the other is Thy Will be done on Earth as it is in the Heavens.

    Free Will is therefore the solution and the problem. The subtle nature of the serpent is that the Woman is taught to occupy according to her own vain imaginations - She Chooses. She does not submit to the leadership. And in fact she has taught her leadership to submit to the feet of the created.

    Christ is the head of a man [leadership] as the man [leadership] is the head of the woman [laity, citizenship]. The man-child must be birthed and it is unfortunate that too many women labor in birth pains to bring forth that which is an abomination.

    Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

    There is a church that has remained true. She does not have children [other churches she births]. What she births is the children of Promise [Election]. But there are other churches that are widows that have married one who teaches Christ JESUS - and now they are with child and do give suck to a system of abomination.

    Rom_11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

    I image that there are many reading v.7 recoiling in disgust THINKING "I am not of the bloodline of Israel". And it is to THAT CROWD that this writing issues. This has nothing to do with Bloodline - The Israel of El Elyon - the elohims. It is now time?

    The married wife has but one husbandman [CHRIST]. I look around and see alot of Churches wed to Jesus. Flesh and blood will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Is it now time?

    Mar 13:17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

    Are you supporting this false system?

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    Wisdom is another name for The Holy Spirit. She is also known as El Shaddai.

    Have you ever noticed the WISDOM in which the writers of the New Testament used? Sometimes they use the title Christ Jesus and other times Jesus Christ. Now most people just read right by this and do not realize there is much to be learned in this distinction.

    Lets go to the Greek because the New Testament was written in Greek. Christ - man = Christian. IAN = man. Now The Christ condescended to man which is to say Christ Jesus - so lets just say it like this Flesh and Blood will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Therefore we are looking to obtain in Jesus Christ. Which is to say man being resurrected into Christ.

    Those who are under the yoke are unfortunately in Christ Jesus - they only see the law for what it is on a flesh level - so at least they have a moral code - but that is all they have. I am in bondage in Christ Jesus. I am free in Jesus Christ.

    See now the Wisdom? The latter is a Title.

    Allow me to be specific: An ambassador speaks in the name of his principal. To speak in his own name is to say nothing. This leads to disputes regarding who has the highest Title based on CLAIM. This goes to Dominion based on Claim which leads to Property - which leads to Estates - which leads to LAW BOUNDARY. You are either RESIDENT in that law boundary or an alien.

    So if you like it in Christ Jesus, then at least the governors of this age do somewhat keep order. But there is freedom in Jesus Christ. Those who are sick in religion will most likely be puking about now. But they lack comprehension. Those who understand, law, government, claim, dominion, property, estate and interest will at once notice one in Jesus Christ is CLOTHED in Royalty. One in Christ Jesus is a slave.

    Man is VASSAL - even the ancient dictionaries agree. Why? Man is subject to a Creator and is therefore VASSAL. However, the man-child birthed in the Spirit is another story! Herein is Royalty established - a Prince - a Yisra'el. Oh how I despise Religion - it blinds the eyes.

    My free will is expressed in actions, speech and writing. I choose a relationship with my Creator. Therefore I place my life in Trust, by my free will choice, with Jesus Christ. I now also choose to allow the Administration of this Trust to be made by the Holy Spirit [my Mother] She leads me into Paths of Righteousness for His name's sake. Therefore what of my choices? Will I deny the Superintendence of the Holy Spirit and do it my way? So I may choose to walk in the Law of God - but if I CHOOSE then I lose. I am doing it in my own Will.

    If I have placed my life in Trust with Jesus Christ, THEN I am subject to the Trust Agreement - which says that I will no longer live under the FIVE LORDS OF THE PHILISTINES - my five senses, thru the Central Nervous System [the Serpent], I will live under the Direction, the Executive Office of the Holy Spirit of El Elyon.

    I am Lemuel sitting at my Mother's Feet - I am the Prodigal Son in my own Self Will. I choose WISDOM - I choose to Honor my Mother. Proverbs 31. There is no gender here for the spirit is masculine with man.

    So then the Joseph company is the servant-kings acting in Love for their wives [citizenry]. The Joseph company will sit in the Throne of Christ in El Elyon. Therefore we three are one. We are one in trust.

    What then of law? I am no longer under its yoke! The Holy Spirit will not lead me into ways which go contrary to The Way - Psalm 119 [in its entirety]. Therefore the law is for the lawless. And here is just how subtle the enemy is: IF you attempt to keep The Law of God according to The Way in your own self will, then you lose! You are under the yoke and you lose. There is but one way! And this is the faith.

    Therefore I, submit to a Woman [The Holy Spirit]. My Mother for She has Authority. And it is Her that raises the man-child. Are we not without excuse? Look around in the Earth and pray tell what do you see? Does a man conceive children? Does a man feed the child milk at a tender age? I think not! She feeds from her own body the child! Are you ready to receive wisdom?

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    Continuing...



    Son_8:5 Who is this that cometh up from the wilderness, leaning upon her beloved? I raised thee up under the apple tree: there thy mother brought thee forth: there she brought thee forth that bare thee.

    We have access to the Tree of Life TODAY. If we would just come up by the way of the South. So now what does flesh have to do with Spirit? Those who operate in Christ Jesus are dead.

    They are as Jonah swallowed up in the body of a great fish. But few understand Jonah. Oh how the flesh blinds the eyes.

    This is the sign of Jonah. Jesus Christ, the Word, or Logos of God, lies dormant in the metaphorical "belly" of the "great fish," which is the Church of course, & eventually emerges on the third (spiritual) day (or after 2,000 years) to preach to Ninevah, it is us, and therefore we (eventually) repent at the teaching of Jonah.

    The water, Christ Jesus, turn to WINE, Jesus Christ. And this is all done under the Administration of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, finding the Kingdom in abeyance swallowed up by a "great fish" I see a tree [nation] cut off at its stump with a band of iron placed around it. UNTIL the Father decides it is time.

    Therefore I place my trust in Jesus Christ, my Sovereign King and Friend. And I shall not commit Adultery - to mix Kingdoms. For what does the dead have to do with the living?

    And here is the problem. Men following men. Captivity. I am set free in Christ under the Administration of the Holy Spirit. I am free. The stumbling block is my free will. Now notice the leaders who seek to keep the laity, citizenry [the woman in the analogy - Eve] in total subjection - dominating her.

    Such men don't realize that Adam and Eve is them. Adam/Eve is every man/woman that ever walked the Earth. It is a picture of me and the Breach that has occurred in me. Therefore many will stay in the outer court bumping to each other in Religion - do you believe mess. But who is ready to continue into the Sanctuary and FIND BALANCE - to be Married?

    Isn't it time the water was turned into Wine? Are you ready to hear Jonah? The Dove? She delivers the Wine under Her Administration! John 2.

    Can you know the end from the beginning....you better believe it!

    Joh 2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:

    Comment: Third Spiritual day [after 2000 years] - Galilee is symbol for the Kingdom of God. Mother of Jesus = Holy Spirit. With these keys lets proceed. Come with my Spiritually speaking - try to leave the flesh aspect in the dust where it belongs.

    Joh 2:2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.

    Comment: The flesh man and his flesh students - were called to attend the marriage

    Joh 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

    Comment: They are fed up with water [the fleshly understanding of the Word in Christ Jesus] it is time for Jonah to be loosed out of the "great fish". Jonah means "The Dove" - one of its roots is yahyin - which means wine.

    Joh 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

    Comment: She is early. It was not yet time for the wine to be granted. But she wants to give liberally unto them that Ask, Seek and Knock [ASK].

    Joh 2:5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

    Comment: The Holy Spirit working thru the servants [elect/remnant] guiding them into The Way = The Word. This Woman has Authority! She is in Charge. You ready to take orders from a Woman?

    Joh 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.

    Comment: Six water pots: Six for the Six Thousands years allotted to mankind - water = fleshly understandings in Christ Jesus.

    Joh 2:7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.

    Comment: For six thousand years the Church under self willed leadership has been teaching INCORRECT DOCTRINE. These self professed leaders are in their own vanity leading their people into bondage under the yoke of law. Notice the stony pots were filled to the brim. The stone pots are man's stoney heart - stubborn and self willed. Always "my way" says man. Well that way leads to crossing over Jordan - Death.

    Joh 2:8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.

    Comment: Now then He instructs [but notice all of the foregoing is UNDER the OVERSEEING of the Holy Spirit in Administration] the servants. Can you now hear His voice? This is a Command to the Joseph company, to the Timothy company, to the Onesimus company - go and take the NEW WINE to Ninevah [the World].

    Joh 2:9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,

    Comment: Now then, the Earthly rulers know not from whence the NEW WINE came they want to know by what Authority Timothy speaks [elect/remnant] which is to say which institution ordained [by the hands of men] Timothy. They love the New Wine but they want to CONTROL its dissemination. While the rules are BLIND - the servants know. Notice that the Holy Spirit teaches and when one is ready the Governor calls forth the Bridegroom [CHRIST].

    Revelation did not come to Simon thru Flesh and Blood; therefore Jesus surnamed him Simon bar JONAH. Son of the Dove. He, received the NEW WINE by and thru the Administration of the Holy Spirit. Therefore the SERVANTS know well where the Wisdom comes.

    Furthermore, the servants know You cannot put NEW WINE in an old wine skin. Therefore one steeped in Christ JESUS is unfit to receive the NEW WINE. One must be renewed in Jesus CHRIST. Therefore I find that those who have no religion at all understand much better that the Scriptures are telling us about OURSELVES and our NATURE.

    Man is NOT God kind. But Father El Elyon, by and thru the Administration of the Holy Spirit [El Shaddai] is about the business of raising up Spiritual Children [god kind].

    SELF WILL ain't gonna cut the mustard. There is a way that seems right unto a man - and yet it leads to death. So at least those in Christ JESUS are left with a moral code - even if that is all they see. The NEW WINE is coming. Others are partaking of it this day.


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    Joh 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

    Comment: The former rain was poured out upon the Early Church and they had the mystery - but men crept in privately [secretly] and slowly perverted her from within. They taught the Gospel but with a twist. They taught it thru the eyes of man [his senses] and thus the Spiritual Eyes of the Church were closed. This is Adam/Eve and the Serpent! What has been will be and there is nothing new. However, there will be another outpouring of the Holy Spirit [Latter Rain] and the WATER will turn into WINE. This is the sign of Jonah. Can you receive it?

    Joh 2:11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

    Comment: The end from the beginning. To those who WILLINGLY oppress, to those who know the truth and use power and office to suppress the truth, this is WILLFUL blasphemy of the Holy Spirit - these FORBID other to marry Christ.

    1Ti_4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

    Comment: They intentionally keep their laity on milk so that the "child" cannot grow. Thus they forbid the child the "spiritual food" that the child requires. This has nothing to do with putting food in your mouth. Thus there is no PURIFICATION and as such the leadership forbids the laity from marrying Jesus CHRIST. The laity stays married to CHRIST Jesus - they only see the Scriptures on the Flesh level. Therefore, OTHER MEN are always at her head. FLESH MEN - who drive fancy cars, live in mansions, and rip her off and spoil her and treat her very roughly - her lovers are quite rough in deed. It is a sad tale [Lamentations].

    Lam 1:2 She weepeth sore in the night, and her tears are on her cheeks: among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her: all her friends have dealt treacherously with her, they are become her enemies.


    Now you might notice that the Scriptures are indeed written with a particular Wisdom. So then why do you suppose there is a Canon? Do you now see, those who have power forbid the "young men" to eat at meat?

    There are THREE objects in the Ark of the Covenant:

    Tables: O.T.
    Aaron's Rod: N.T.
    Golden Bowl filled with [HIDDEN] Manna [Angel's Food]: Apocryaphal Books.

    So anyone who is well studied knows that Enoch is referred to many times, Jasher, Testament of Solomon, Paul refers to the Books of Adam and Eve and any serious scholar KNOWS THIS and yet they will absolutely put you to shame if you try to read these book - they refuse their flock to EAT at meat.

    One will say but what about adding to or deleting from: I respond DO YOU HAVE WISDOM? Have you discerned the Keys? They unlock the books? What then of a man who would hold me under his power? Do I have any need to be taught again from one who cannot teach me anything?

    The Holy Spirit TEACHES. She leads. Where is man's power, prestige, pride, authority? For the life of me, I can't find it there. Therefore I find you either have faith or you deny the Christ. And if the latter then that one is still in the Belly of that "great fish" DEAD in Christ Jesus.

    For who raised Christ Jesus from the Dead? Friends it was the HOLY SPIRIT.

    Wherein are man's estates? Are they not as chaff? But do you believe that? Do you have the faith to tell that mountain CAST THYSELF into the Sea?

    I am a mere WITNESS - I sit back and watch HER WORK thru me. I am willing to follow her leadership. This Heavenly Woman has authority and NONE can stay her hand!

    2Ch 20:15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's.

    Therefore I am compelled to cloth myself in Royalty for I am dead to the world BECAUSE I placed my life in trust with Jesus CHRIST. I have become a fool. And yet, I have been shown the foundations upon which the World Estates are erected upon. The names are different but the game is the same.

    In the end - it is our own prison - we made it ourselves.

    FREE WILL is both the solution and the problem. Lets see what the Dove has to say:

    Jonah 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

    Comment: Duality. These are not in unity consciousness. They are either controllers or the controlled. Love conquers both. Love exposes both to the mirror of the SELF.

    Six [score] = this age. All of it. Notice Nineveh worships the FISH GOD? They are SICK with the disease of Religion.

    Honor thy Father and thy Mother...

    Now then I ask again: What does the DEAD [Flesh and Blood] have to do with the Living [Spirit/Soul]?

    Just as I am dead in Christ JESUS, then also:

    FIRST M SURNAME is dead in STATE. So where is the living to be found? In Jesus CHRIST. You say I am alive now. If you are LUCKY you will get 100 years in this flesh. Therefore the flesh is dead - inert dust. It is just a mere tabernacle - a tent - to dwell within.

    The pattern plays out over and over - and yet eyes remain shut.

    Rom_11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

    2Co_3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

    2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    Comment: Historians, Theologians, Philosophers, Sophists, Speculators are blind in Flesh. These cannot see CHRIST. They opine ad nauseam about history, who wrote what - talk about straining out a gnat.... Who do you think will be at your head if you bow to the feet of these? Do you love OPPRESSION? But it is clear to this writer that MOST DO in fact LOVE OPPRESSION. Asking the question - By What Authority do you Speak / Write?

    Joh 2:9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,


    I could write for days on this subject. I shall take my leave of it for now. Until then, may you begin your journey to find BALANCE within the marriage of your Spirit and your Soul. Left Brain/Right Brain.

    I BELIEVE THAT: One cannot continue to learn the mysteries of the Holy of Hollies until one progresses past the Inner Court. The single eye will not be made clear until one finds BALANCE [Marriage] in the Sanctuary. And when that PURIFICATION has occurred then the Governor will call the Bridegroom.


    Shalom,
    Michael Joseph
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