The BILL is NOT a BILL

[walter]

Its a defective bill because they don't have "consumer purchase" written on it.
It becomes defective when NOTICE is given of the defect.

Has anyone ever tried depositing a "statement" (bill) into a bank account?

[allodial]

Its a defective bill because they don't have "consumer purchase" written on it.
It becomes defective when NOTICE is given of the defect.

Has anyone ever tried depositing a "statement" (bill) into a bank account?

From reports, Amex bills have an associated bank rounting number( probably because Amex is a bank). In the "old days" (banking text books from long ago), where there are vouchers were checks. The idea was that you endorsed them payable to the biller.

Clearly the Legal Title is not in the End User.

The bill or notice itself might be considered to be abandoned.

[walter]

From reports, Amex bills have an associated bank rounting number( probably because Amex is a bank). In the "old days" (banking text books from long ago), where there are vouchers were checks. The idea was that you endorsed them payable to the biller.

In Canada if you send a statement then you must be a member of the Canadian Payment Association.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-21/

Bill payment Remittances
https://www.cdnpay.ca/imis15/eng/FAQ...c-c2203c0218b2

Rule H6
https://www.cdnpay.ca/imis15/pdf/pdfs_rules/rule_h6.pdf

[allodial]

In Canada if you send a statement then you must be a member of the Canadian Payment Association.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-21/

Excellent point. In Canada sales tax and income tax are unified under CRA. In the USA sales/use and income are split between the Federal and State levels. If you charge/bill on the retail/sales level in the USA -> a vendor license (State Tax ID) number is typically required. Also, major billers in the USA tend to be members of an electronics payment service--there is a widely used one. The first few numbers on a bill at the bottom tend to identify the biller uniquely.

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Cross-linking to French, "bill" is another word for "note".

[Moxie]

If a man's birth certificate is authenticated for another country, and the man has no SS#, is the Bill Indorsement remedy something he still can use?

[doug555]

Its a defective bill because they don't have "consumer purchase" written on it.
It becomes defective when NOTICE is given of the defect.

Has anyone ever tried depositing a "statement" (bill) into a bank account?

This is why I suggest this indorsement.

BACK OF PRESENTMENT, 90-DEGREE ANGLE, HAND-PRINTED, BLUE INK:

For Deposit Only
to the account of
United States
12 USC 342

John Henry Doe



This DEPOSIT is the next step... but all of the follow-up documents need to be in place first... based on research in this folder about "Confusio - Merger - Extinguishment - Discharge"

And about "indorser's recourse" in this book.

Notice that all "statements" demand "payment".

Why are we then tendering "promises of payment" known as FRNs?

[doug555]

This is why I suggest this indorsement.

BACK OF PRESENTMENT, 90-DEGREE ANGLE, HAND-PRINTED, BLUE INK:

For Deposit Only
to the account of
United States
12 USC 342

John Henry Doe



This DEPOSIT is the next step... but all of the follow-up documents need to be in place first... based on research in this folder about "Confusio - Merger - Extinguishment - Discharge"

And about "indorser's recourse" in this book.

Notice that all "statements" demand "payment".

Why are we then tendering "promises of payment" known as FRNs?

The Money In Your Bank Account Was Stolen This Morning!

Perhaps FRNs and checkbook money will soon not circulate AS MONEY given the report at the above link.

This is exactly why the Indorsed Bill Remedy is needed ASAP!

In conjunction with the Usufruct Remedy

If so, then the only thing left in circulation AS MONEY will be just the BILLS themselves.

Why not just indorse, return and enforce them as the negotiable instruments that they truly are?!

If dishonored, resurrect McFadden's 1933 charges lodged in the Judiciary.

David, would you know how to get a certified copy of those documents?

[doug555]

A good successful example in Italy of a "Debt-Free Alternative Currency"

LOCAL MERCHANTS IN SOUTHERN ITALY THRIVE OFF OF DEBT-FREE ALTERNATIVE CURRENCY
A professor in Guardiagrele, Italy proves that debt-free money is highly desireable and effective by issuing an alternative currency.

Giancinto Auriti

The Wall St. journal reported in October 2000, that a wealthy Italian Professor, Giancinto Auriti, “hoped to convince the world that central bankers are the biggest con artists in modern history.” He claimed that when money is loaned out at interest by banks, it has roughly half the purchasing power than if it were divided among the people for free. So he decided to test his theory in his small hometown of Guardiagrele, Italy. He issued a debt-free alternative currency, called simec, and offered it at an exchange rate of 1-to-1.

Simec
www.simec.org

Soon enough people discovered that one simec had the purchasing power of two lire and goods started flying off the shelves! Participating merchants were thrilled while stores that didn’t accept simec were empty. 2.5 billion simec circulated rapidly.

Due to its success, local merchants eventually formed a committee, with the Professor as the head, to keep the program going.

This program needed a wealthy benefactor to get it started (which the government could easily do itself), but it still shows the great potential of debt-free currency to facilitate economic growth and prosperity.

P.S. The above is not meant as an endorsement of "Thrive".


Also see: The Utopian Country

Also see: Indorsed Bill Remedy and Usufruct Currency

[doug555]

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2015/...rom-judge.html

"...

Finally, everyone worldwide needs a lesson in the mechanisms of fraudulent convertible debt. A fraudulent convertible debt is a debt created by fraud that is converted into new ownership and used by the perpetrators as investment capital. The most typical example is the billing you receive every month for electrical service (at least in America this is true).

What appears to be a bill comes addressed to YOUR NAME in capital letters and your address. Unknown to you, this "billing statement" isn't really a true bill and it isn't addressed to you. It is addressed to a franchise of a governmental services corporation and the "statement" is actually a voucher allowing you to cash in a "dividend" equal to the amount shown as due and owing-- but of course, you are never told this and you are never told how to fill out the coupon for credit. Instead, if you don't submit payment you are threatened with disconnection, and in this way, you are coerced into paying the bills of a governmental services corporation's franchise.

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Above cite supports info found at below:
https://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2013/11/08/18/
http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p...-currency.html
https://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/201...d-bill-remedy/

Also see: http://www.annavonreitz.com/index.html for more of her info.