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    To accuse of a general fraud by omission - your civics teachers and parents included, will require some advanced record-forming skills indeed. Ergo the suitors learn the use of an evidence repository in the "exclusive original cognizance" of that communist/illuminati precept that government was created, registry and survey, boundaries and abutments, easements, usufructuaries and all that for one simple purpose; to protect our property rights.

    The private side of the brain trust (email broadcasts) made some very intrigueing headway on this same topic. So I am going to get bold about boundaries and share some Crosstalk. First I am going to summarize what I think this thread is about though.

    Through selecting your government services from the CAFR and figuring up your fair share per capita you might pay that amount by donation but publish your agreement through the county clerk and recorder. Motla68 and a couple others studied in trust law are proposing that a private agreement is better - even a secret robin egg-blue wrapped arrangement but that will get nowhere until Motla68 gets over his attitude and shares the template. I do not see that a private agreement is appropriate so I say it must be published and therefore made available to anybody who wants off the property tax roles.

    The premise is based on that you will get your government protections of police and fire, 911 communications in an emergency and there is no birth certificate registration right to funds providing for it. Therefore you pay for your menu-selection yearly and publish your novation sanctifying you from the county tax assessor.

    Crosstalk:

    Isn't "owning the mill", by any means, still 'voting' with the municipal-govt taxpayers, thus perpetuating their welfare-state of being?



    What I suggested by directing one's energy as a "donation in lieu of tax" as one's fair share of a community's mutual-support services is that, we who do not trust in the welfare-state (or police-state, same thing), are only with covenant obligation to support a moral means to a moral end. How can that be claimed as belligerent intent or conduct?

    I prefer to view the above 'voting' as managing. The precept is that authority comes from responsibility and True Name's basis requires fixing the perceived corruption, which requires the use of the government (which is assumed to be corrupt) to do? - Meaning that, How are you going to fix a currupt judiciary with itself? The model I see developing here - the Agreement, is based on a much plainer judgment; That if you are a victim of theft, or you home is on fire you would make the judgment call to dial 911 for professional help. Bringing forth the mortgage agreement to pay taxes was very helpful! It shows the same thing - responsibility. Responsibility is authority and without it, people should not go around thinking they are self-governing.



    If I am going to loan you money, then you better protect my collateral assets.



    Being signor on the 2001 BoE and the Treatment and Consent Form below has its advantages. I feel that I have accepted government for value, as it is, without judging it. Well, to be frank I judged and charged it $20M waiver of tort based in the fact in my evidence repository, but that was for a specific violation of bond (oath of office - speedy trial right). Just the same; I truly view it as my government. My government. So much so, that I actually have outgrown the conditioning that it is unconcionable that a huge triangle in the middle of America may soon belong to China to pay off a huge debt - rather than the conditioned response that we can sign endorsement of credit for a century and then just tell China and other creditors - Tough Luck! We are America, we don't have to pay back honorably.



    Did we just presume that the American states would keep the same borders through a foreclosure?



    Another item to think over is that federal judges are legislating their own pay raise - What? Their salaries shall not be diminished during terms of office in good behavior. However the stock certificates they handle are being diminished in value. So they are constitutionally mandating an adjustment in their paycheck amounts based on their actual pay being mandated to remain the same over time of term. Get it? Look at the attachment and consider carefully, Who is the Principal? The Fed would be an independent banking cartel if not for being allowed to deteriorate the value of its own stock certificates through fractional lending. But it does - by the people's endorsement signature; therefore the natural debt. See how it grows?



    Now we grow the two more edifying suitors' broadcasts [including the Response from China conversation] together because we have to take responsibility if we want to pretend to be self-governing. To own the government, we have to let it go. Ergo the Agreement. Pay for the sheriff (police) and fire protection in your mill/share of lawful money.



    This goes back to the '90s too. I heard an occasional story where the police of fire protection district would not respond to the homes of people consciously taking themselves off the tax rolls. So this is the same function of the tax in a voluntary agreement published through the county clerk and recorder. The man/homeowner is not obligated to all the assumpsit associated with the local collections processes, however the fireman and policeman are more obligated than ever in a published agreement for the same thing.





    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:26 PM
    To: 'David Merrill';
    Cc:
    Subject: RE: Property Tax Strategy
    Importance: High


    “So now I take you to eleemysonary corporations - the government as an eleemysonary corporation. I have shared with you getting $2K CAT Scans and expensive antibiotics, X-Rays and other Emergency Treatment from the City-Owned Memorial Hospital. When I walk away, we call it even. Do I get my emergency health care for free? No. I have given the City/METRO, in agreement with God over to that priesthood. God gave away a major asset of my original estate as heir apparent - the cities and the suburbs. The Levites got the Cities. Those are my cities and the Levites use them.” – David Merrill

    But the agreement is the agreement and 'owning the mill' means to me that the health care is owed by the Levitical Priesthood to the Order of Melchizedek for being elect. However I may be misinterpreting mill. I thought it had something to do with per capita and it may be related to grinding grains? Oh well, you learn something new every day. – David Merrill





    Talk about two statements that really get to the heart of all matters we discuss here in regards to our being exposed to, touched by and imposed upon in every aspect of living life on this land by the very entity which “owes us”. The trick and scheme perpetrated by David’s “Levitical Priesthood” is to have us either deny, or not trust in, our “election” and to seek out the cover of a “man king” instead. Nothing has changed over thousands of years! We are duped, conditioned, persuaded and convinced of the notion of subjugation to their claimed “higher authority” and they set up schemes and mechanisms, in accordance with Divine Law, which lead us to volunteer into servitude. The adversary is indeed clever, cynical, deceiving and evil and since its inheritance is control over the City/METRO, they will use it to their full capability and advantage as long as the “willing volunteers” continue to grant their unwitting consent.



    David’s explanation, I feel, lies directly in line with what I have been offering regarding our inherent right to “take control” of and over the creations of man due to the mal-intent and dishonor at the foundation of them. This is why David receives “free healthcare”. This is why we can demand lawful money. This is why we may utilize the chattels of the modern age as we deem necessary in order to keep the peace and to procure the vital resources and necessities of life which have been seized, taken over and controlled by government municipalities and agents of City/METRO. This is why we can refuse to be the fiduciary/surety behind their creations even though we may pick them up and use them out of the necessity that they created and dishonorably imposed upon us. We, as the elect, are not affected by this usurpation and we demand of the “Levitical Priesthood” to honor and recognize our position as the “elect” and the rights, freedoms, immunities and SUPERIOR AUTHORITY that comes along with it.



    Eleemysonary is a word which describes perfectly the nature of those entities that impose upon us, on a daily basis, their deceptive and dishonorable notion that we owe them instead of them owing us.



    Thanks,

    True Name
    Continued...
    Last edited by David Merrill; 04-02-11 at 12:45 PM.

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Merrill
    Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:17 PM
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    Cc:
    Subject: RE: Property Tax Strategy

    I think it important to look at the perspective brought forth in this post. This brings forth a previous agreement most people have in place - about anyone who has a mortgage to "own" a home, maybe by constructive trust after the homeowner has paid off the warranty deed or note of trust too. Thanks for this image Initials!







    This information came off as a hinderance to the Agreement we are developing here but after sleeping on it I came up with a productive post in response. In summary, the mortgage requires that you keep their home under the fire and police protection available with 911 Emergency Services. Let's grant that is the purpose of the clause - rather than to oppress the American people. Like with a car loan, one is required to keep the auto under an insurance policy by the lender. Same thing - paying taxes is like an insurance policy against fire and theft/vandalism, outside the scope of homeowner's insurance.



    I believe that this is a good start at getting realistic about making the matter work in the scope of redeeming lawful money. With lawful money demanded to pay the sheriff and fire chief plus communications (911) you actually own your mill. Moving onward to solving the obstacles in our minds then:



    You cannot use the mail system for this - else that is a trespass. I would use private process server.



    The postage is lawful money, paid in cash - lawful money. The lawful money is easement and abutment into the dominions that belong to you - the Post Office - now operating (Nixon Administration) under a contractor called the USPS. I hope I understand that right. It is not feasable to say that one can trespass in one's own dominions is it?



    I do not care for the Registry that you propose.



    That I presume means that you do not like the county clerk and recorder too? The purpose of the Agreement being published is to show people. The state itself is incapable of reading or even thinking so the public notice is for people. But I jump to that conclusion early in your paragraph:



    I think it would be best to put a Notice on the Registry and hold the original agreement private. The reason for the Notice is this is sensitive information to the State - and it could hurt their business model.



    Notice that there is a private agreement in effect? That sounds reasonable but then you comment:



    I would also like to think of a way to "lock in" this remedy. Else the Legislature will pass a new law and 'weasel' out from under this new Remedy.



    That to me means forget about the business model (tax revenue for the masses) and use the county clerk and recorder.



    If Yehovah is kicking his ass by way of the State as Paddle, then who am I to interfere with that correction.



    I think that would mean the current property tax assessed per homeowner is much more than the mill you are speaking of. For the sheeple to be taking a thrashing here we need to make the CAFR division per capita and compare it to the average annual property tax I suppose. That brings to mind how people in big rich homes pay more into the system than those living in shabby duplexes too - but let's not go there yet.



    Perhaps you should call it a 'good faith donation in lieu of tax' payment. Tax is rent for use of a privilege.



    That mental model leads us to a belligerent stance. I implore we look at the current "tax" and the proposed "mill" both being like fire and police protection insurance policies. The efficiency will be calculated eventually like in the paragraph above. Now we have win-win contract negotiations instead of an oppressive government acting like the owner instead of a trustee. I think we need to do this to move forward.



    Compensation Tax is a classic form of Tax based on the right of the landlord to demand tenants pay for the estimated loss of value of property through their use. Property Tax is an example of a Compensation Tax.



    This presumes the First Lien on everything you "buy" with private credit from the Fed. So we can drop that from our mental modeling on the presumption remedy is utilized naturally by right. So far as I know Frank is unfamiliar with our remedy - but Motla68, who inspired this tact showed us something interesting - in Australia, where Frank lives. I cannot find that rendition but it is similar to this Canadian version. We find non-endorsement in the Bank of Canada Act and I believe that with admiralty ruling, [Proctor WISWALL's 1994 Comparative Paper - Australia, Britain and the USA.] we find that in Australia and Great Britain as well, that when law allows contracting in false balances - there must be a remedy, rendering those false balances optional.



    Therefore I suggest that most or all of these obstacles are nothing more than mental conditioning. We seek to insure quick response by our (we own them) officials (our public servants) in case of emergency. True Name has shared his experience with an arsonist - requiring both police and fire action. As expected, without this sort of agreement in place the prosecution laid entirely upon Initials; the DA was basically inert without Name prosecuting the arsonist. This agreement would bind the prosecution to act. Of course once the firemen and trucks arrived, it was pretty much mandatory, Oh it's You; we will watch your house burn down! (You get my drift?) But that is basically what happened with the DA.



    So now I take you to eleemysonary corporations - the government as an eleemysonary corporation. I have shared with you getting $2K CAT Scans and expensive antibiotics, X-Rays and other Emergency Treatment from the City-Owned Memorial Hospital. When I walk away, we call it even. Do I get my emergency health care for free? No. I have given the City/METRO, in agreement with God over to that priesthood. God gave away a major asset of my original estate as heir apparent - the cities and the suburbs. The Levites got the Cities. Those are my cities and the Levites use them.



    1Ch 6:54 Now these are their dwelling places throughout their castles in their coasts, of the sons of Aaron, of the families of the Kohathites: for theirs was the lot.

    1Ch 6:55 And they gave them Hebron in the land of Judah, and the suburbs thereof round about it.

    1Ch 6:58 And Hilen with her suburbs, Debir with her suburbs,

    1Ch 6:59 And Ashan with her suburbs, and Bethshemesh with her suburbs:

    But baby steps now... Let's get there maybe after we can explain this novation in terms of the mill tax.



    Continued...
    Last edited by David Merrill; 04-02-11 at 12:51 PM.

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    Wow, long read. I have no problem paying property taxes, supporting the local infrastructure.

    What I object to is the confiscation of your property for not paying do to financial inability.

    In Thailand their is no property tax, only a one time tax when transferring the title, and they would seem to have a working police, fire and rescue system.

    As far as not paying land taxes that is not a problem. Rent to a church non-profit. Of course the church is one you started. I have not used this on my own home and property, and I have not objected to the small amount of taxes I was asked to pay. But I did own a commercial building that I purchased for the use of the church, my church. I did not claim the whole commercial building as being used by the church only about 30%. Yes someone from the tax department did come out and survey the situation.

    As a church you can provide a home for the ministers etc. The land on which the minister resides can be paid for by the church and the owner of the land gets a tax reduction based on the percentage used. All nice and legal, lawful. It costs about $50 to start a church in Hawaii. I had the same church in Oregon before I moved to Hawaii. Just an approach some my find useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
    Wow, long read. I have no problem paying property taxes, supporting the local infrastructure.

    What I object to is the confiscation of your property for not paying do to financial inability.

    In Thailand their is no property tax, only a one time tax when transferring the title, and they would seem to have a working police, fire and rescue system.

    As far as not paying land taxes that is not a problem. Rent to a church non-profit. Of course the church is one you started. I have not used this on my own home and property, and I have not objected to the small amount of taxes I was asked to pay. But I did own a commercial building that I purchased for the use of the church, my church. I did not claim the whole commercial building as being used by the church only about 30%. Yes someone from the tax department did come out and survey the situation.

    As a church you can provide a home for the ministers etc. The land on which the minister resides can be paid for by the church and the owner of the land gets a tax reduction based on the percentage used. All nice and legal, lawful. It costs about $50 to start a church in Hawaii. I had the same church in Oregon before I moved to Hawaii. Just an approach some my find useful.
    So now that your wealth has been confiscated you would sure like to be indemnified of all expenses related to the property which you unknowingly deposited into the treasury by way of registration, correct? ... unless that is you have the original grant of land from the king?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
    Wow, long read. I have no problem paying property taxes, supporting the local infrastructure.

    What I object to is the confiscation of your property for not paying do to financial inability.

    In Thailand their is no property tax, only a one time tax when transferring the title, and they would seem to have a working police, fire and rescue system.

    As far as not paying land taxes that is not a problem. Rent to a church non-profit. Of course the church is one you started. I have not used this on my own home and property, and I have not objected to the small amount of taxes I was asked to pay. But I did own a commercial building that I purchased for the use of the church, my church. I did not claim the whole commercial building as being used by the church only about 30%. Yes someone from the tax department did come out and survey the situation.

    As a church you can provide a home for the ministers etc. The land on which the minister resides can be paid for by the church and the owner of the land gets a tax reduction based on the percentage used. All nice and legal, lawful. It costs about $50 to start a church in Hawaii. I had the same church in Oregon before I moved to Hawaii. Just an approach some my find useful.
    The way the system is set up, there is no way around it if you respond the way they lead you or if you ignore them entirely. The "other" available option is never revealed for obvious reasons. Like a traffic citation; there are three options offered by the way they lead you respond. The "other" option is not disclosed... R4C; even though it IS available for those that choose to employ the method honorably and competently.

    That is why I suggest that the provided and available coupon attached to the "tax bill" be sent back with instructions for them to settle their own account utilizing that valid instrument which they provided, and are BOUND to accept, according to the law they operate from and are under. Seems to be as simple an "option" as R4C'ing a Traffic Citiation; utilize whatever instrument, tool or mechanism available in order to assist them in settling their account internally and to keep the peace. Their is NO disruption or challenge of the "system" on our part other than our justly and rightfully declared immunity from it and superiority over it. Any disruption of the peace or initiated "action" will be by them from a position of dishonor if they fail to, or refuse to, recoginize the character and standing of the man or woman who exercises his/her inherent and Divine right of avoidance from being "ruled" or re-venued by men and/or their creations.

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    Say Goodbye to Property Taxes

    It's been a while since I've been back to revisit this thread. Too many other projects on my plate.

    In re-reading, a lot of what Michael Joseph had to say toward the beginning of the thread has sunk in and made sense according to the circumstances I have to work within. Primarily, the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph
    The deed is an expression of Trust. The Grantee is a CESTUI QUE TRUST = LEGAL NAME = Beneficiary. Therefore the Deed is just a Transfer of Beneficial Interest. And Therefore the Grantor does not have the RIGHT to transfer the property without the State as the Property expressed Within the Deed is Equitable Interest.

    Only the Trustee can do that action.
    In one approach, I attempted to remedy the matter of property taxes by taking the "property" out of the State's jurisdiction to render it as being classified as "private property" by selling it back to myself (the non-fiction, flesh-and-blood man) using a Grant Deed and refusing to record it with the county recorder, since from what I was reading at the time, it seemed to make sense as "registration" (with the State) occurs when the property is recorded. And once the property is "registered" with the state, that creates the "contract" (or "trust," so to speak) which the State uses as authorization for levying the tax.

    The problem with that was: the property was originally granted in a warranty deed to a relative (who paid for the property in full at the time of purchase, so it was owned outright, or so it seemed to me). The documentation, though, had the State's fingerprints all over it (in terms of its legal description and so forth among other things), nullifying any claim I might have tried to make. At this point, I'm not sure how such real property can be successfully loosened from the hands of the State given the documentation one has to work with.

    This has been an eye-opening experience. It brings home the point that every situation in terms of property law is unique when it comes to dealing with law. You have to be aware of all the legal twists and turns within your specific circumstances within the law before you can make your way to solid ground regarding the process that you are pursuing.

    All of which brings me back to the statement made by Anthony Joseph below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
    The way the system is set up, there is no way around it if you respond the way they lead you or if you ignore them entirely. The "other" available option is never revealed for obvious reasons. Like a traffic citation; there are three options offered by the way they lead you respond. The "other" option is not disclosed... R4C; even though it IS available for those that choose to employ the method honorably and competently.

    That is why I suggest that the provided and available coupon attached to the "tax bill" be sent back with instructions for them to settle their own account utilizing that valid instrument which they provided, and are BOUND to accept, according to the law they operate from and are under. Seems to be as simple an "option" as R4C'ing a Traffic Citation; utilize whatever instrument, tool or mechanism available in order to assist them in settling their account internally and to keep the peace. Their is NO disruption or challenge of the "system" on our part other than our justly and rightfully declared immunity from it and superiority over it. Any disruption of the peace or initiated "action" will be by them from a position of dishonor if they fail to, or refuse to, recognize the character and standing of the man or woman who exercises his/her inherent and Divine right of avoidance from being "ruled" or re-venued by men and/or their creations.
    Having followed a similar process, this seems to be the only reasonable and honorable way to somewhat extricate oneself from the property tax situation. Although you might have to stick to your guns in order to make it stick. I provide an update further down regarding what has occurred in my case.

    At the same time I was prosecuting the "private property" approach, I also went ahead and returned the property tax coupon (along with a Memorandum of Law very similar to Anthony Joseph's document) with instructions on how it was to be redeemed with the Secretary of the Treasury.

    The county treasurer, however, didn't seem to want to take that option and returned a "delinquent tax notice" in June, a few days after the expiration date for the second half payment. I replied by reminding him of the draft for money order I sent in December along with a Letter of Credit and the Notice of Memorandum of Law instructions regarding how to redeem the tender of payment. And there the matter sits.

    There is little doubt in my mind that he will eventually (if it has not already occurred) issue a tax lien on the property. Yet, I have proof of service of the correspondence sent to him along with a claim that this matter is out of any State court's jurisdiction and is within the UPU's (Universal Postal Union) jurisdiction. Any qualified attorney (or attorney in black robe) worth his salt should take a look at the papers I sent him and notice the canceled stamp on the pertinent documents, indicating that this matter falls within the UPU jurisdiction.

    One last nice touch I noted in reading back over this thread was the suggestion to make payment of the coupon in lawful money as per Title 12 U.S.C. §411. I'll have to add that touch to my next process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnowLaw View Post
    It's been a while since I've been back to revisit this thread. Too many other projects on my plate.

    In re-reading, a lot of what Michael Joseph had to say toward the beginning of the thread has sunk in and made sense according to the circumstances I have to work within. Primarily, the following:



    In one approach, I attempted to remedy the matter of property taxes by taking the "property" out of the State's jurisdiction to render it as being classified as "private property" by selling it back to myself (the non-fiction, flesh-and-blood man) using a Grant Deed and refusing to record it with the county recorder, since from what I was reading at the time, it seemed to make sense as "registration" (with the State) occurs when the property is recorded. And once the property is "registered" with the state, that creates the "contract" (or "trust," so to speak) which the State uses as authorization for levying the tax.

    The problem with that was: the property was originally granted in a warranty deed to a relative (who paid for the property in full at the time of purchase, so it was owned outright, or so it seemed to me). The documentation, though, had the State's fingerprints all over it (in terms of its legal description and so forth among other things), nullifying any claim I might have tried to make. At this point, I'm not sure how such real property can be successfully loosened from the hands of the State given the documentation one has to work with.

    This has been an eye-opening experience. It brings home the point that every situation in terms of property law is unique when it comes to dealing with law. You have to be aware of all the legal twists and turns within your specific circumstances within the law before you can make your way to solid ground regarding the process that you are pursuing.

    All of which brings me back to the statement made by Anthony Joseph below:



    Having followed a similar process, this seems to be the only reasonable and honorable way to somewhat extricate oneself from the property tax situation. Although you might have to stick to your guns in order to make it stick. I provide an update further down regarding what has occurred in my case.

    At the same time I was prosecuting the "private property" approach, I also went ahead and returned the property tax coupon (along with a Memorandum of Law very similar to Anthony Joseph's document) with instructions on how it was to be redeemed with the Secretary of the Treasury.

    The county treasurer, however, didn't seem to want to take that option and returned a "delinquent tax notice" in June, a few days after the expiration date for the second half payment. I replied by reminding him of the draft for money order I sent in December along with a Letter of Credit and the Notice of Memorandum of Law instructions regarding how to redeem the tender of payment. And there the matter sits.

    There is little doubt in my mind that he will eventually (if it has not already occurred) issue a tax lien on the property. Yet, I have proof of service of the correspondence sent to him along with a claim that this matter is out of any State court's jurisdiction and is within the UPU's (Universal Postal Union) jurisdiction. Any qualified attorney (or attorney in black robe) worth his salt should take a look at the papers I sent him and notice the canceled stamp on the pertinent documents, indicating that this matter falls within the UPU jurisdiction.

    One last nice touch I noted in reading back over this thread was the suggestion to make payment of the coupon in lawful money as per Title 12 U.S.C. §411. I'll have to add that touch to my next process.
    Be sure to avoid the insurances particuarly title insurance.

    In title insurance, the State is listed as a beneficiary .

    That tip is courtesy of "the Informer".
    Last edited by shikamaru; 07-06-12 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Be sure to avoid the insurances particuarly title insurance.

    In title insurance, the State is listed as a beneficiary .

    That tip is courtesy "the Informer".
    Thank you for adding that comment. That's a very good point to bring up that others here should learn from.

    No, I did not involve any title company in the Grant Deed transaction, since I have nearly all the paper work (going back to the Land Patent granted by the State) involved with the real property in question, there seemed to be no need. There have been three owners of the plot of land that the Grant Deed refers to.

    The only paper work I don't have in my possession is the first buyer of the plot who sold it to my relative, who was the second owner of the land. I am the third owner of the lot. I am assuming I could obtain a copy of that paper work (I just haven't done so yet) from the title company that was involved in the sale to the first owner. Previous to the time it was sold to the first owner, it was bought by a land developer who then developed the land, obtained an Land Patent on it, and then sold the lot to the first owner. (For clarifications sake, obviously the land developer was the original first owner of the land; I'm just referring to the people he sold to in order to clarify that since the original owner, there have been three additional owners.)

    Is it your understanding, too, that private transactions such as this would be lawful as it would fall under the common law? In other words, by not involving the State (or any of its corporate minions such as a title company), the transaction remains on the private side of the fence. If so, then perhaps I don't have that much to worry about in the face of new developments. I just need to maintain my stance and make sure my response to any "offers" that may come my way is in accord with my stance. (This can become a bit confusing, which is why I am asking a second opinion to make sure my thinking is correct.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Be sure to avoid the insurances particuarly title insurance.

    In title insurance, the State is listed as a beneficiary .

    That tip is courtesy "the Informer".
    If you are using the R4V method you would need to sent you coupon and money order to the IRS. There are only 3 offices that process R4V payments.

    IRS technical Support
    1500 Pennsylvania Ave
    Washington, district of columbia

    IRS crimminal division
    Box 192
    Lovington, Kentucky

    and

    IRS stop 4440
    PO box 9036
    Augdon, Utah.

    Allow 3 weeks for processing if this is your first R4V. fB

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    Interesting - ecclesia. Ex visitation Dei.

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