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    Well after doing some research and speaking with the IRS.

    While the IRS may be a trust fund in puerto rico and the biggest scam this world has knows it unfortunately has the masses in its favor. Regardless of the validity in the law that the IRS has no basis in the law to tax income except as a excise, tariff, or import tax and back in the day as a voluntary war tax on us citizens that live in DC, its territories, Guam, PR, USVI etc and that they are deceiving the population into believing that they must file (state citizens considered nonresident aliens by admission into their jurisdiction by filing first tax return) and by doing so volunteer to be part of their jurisdiction and considered a non-resident alien living in a foreign country (states) it's massive con and no different than what hitler did to brainwash people.

    That said if things get out of hand and you must go to tax court, and in front of a jury. Do you really want to put your freedom in some random old judge views on the correct interpretation of the law or a tax accountant jury whose livelihood depends on filing taxes and purporting the scam(at no fault of his own as he has been brainwashed?). the law system in this country is about the majority not true correctness in it's interpretation.

    That is the question I asked myself and the answer is NO. The one thing I have learned is that if I ever decide to Open a Trust fund or investment fund I must open it in puerto rico. As puerto rico residents are exempt from federal tax laws and puerto rico has it's own (4% flat tax rate) being a us territory. and under act 20--22 I am allowed complete privacy on my accounts which is why the IRS runs their business from there and how the boss of the IRS could not produce a ledger, report explaining where trillions of dollars went and the federal judge in the case knew that but still attempted to have her spill the beans and incriminate herself/theIRS

    To sum up,

    I have an IRS employee on record stating that redeeming lawful money is a frivolous position they have identified. She also said recording the call was illegal. Which is not true in my one party state. But this just goes to show that it's he said she said in the court of law regarding what is legal and enforced and the MAJORITY opinion always wins.

    And what is that MAJORITY opinion regarding filing taxes REGARDLESS of the legality and validity of the IRS jurisdiction to enforce a mandatory tax on all? unfortunately that is that everyone must pay the tax...

    Having said that I am personally going to stay under the radar with these people and over the next 10 years renounce my citizenship after I have established a home base elsewhere in the world. That is really the only true way to escape them. Thinking I could conduct business in Puerto Rico keep my US citizenship and not be subject to federal taxes, and state taxes as long as I do not make "US Employee income" whether legitimate or presumed.

    To qualify, an individual must not have been a resident of Puerto Rico within in the last 15 years. You must become a resident of Puerto Rico by December 31, 2035, and you must reside there for at least 183 days a year. You also have to do the paperwork, filing an application with the tax authority there. Once that's approved, it’s a binding contract and you’ll get:

    Tax-free interest and dividends earned after you become a resident.
    No long-term capital gains tax on appreciation after you become a resident.
    5% tax on long-term capital gain for appreciation before you move for any sales during your first 10 years as a resident.

    Act 20 and Act 22, which provide for corporate tax rate of just 4% for companies exporting services outside of Puerto Rico, as well as a full exemption for individuals from taxes on most types of investment income.
    Last edited by enlightened; 09-22-17 at 12:58 AM.

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    I'm sure the IRS would like us all to believe redeeming lawful money is a frivolous position. But it isn't. It's not even listed on the IRS list.

    Look again at your 3176c letter ... we are proposing to assess a $5000 penalty ... How do you respond to proposals? In my case I didn't agree to their proposal and no Frivolous Penalty was assessed. Even better, the IRS agreed with me (and David Merrill) that the redeemed lawful money reported on the Form 1099 was not taxable income. No tax liability and no tax paid!
    Last edited by marcel; 09-25-17 at 05:07 PM.

  3. #3
    I'd love to see the verbiage used in response to your 3176C letter.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by enlightened View Post
    I'd love to see the verbiage used in response to your 3176C letter.

    Here's some "verbiage" to ponder -- from StSC member 'martin earl'. He redeemed the three 3176C's on the following year's return.....an extra 15k removed from the Nat'l Debt !!

    http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...ll=1#post20394

  5. #5
    Thank you ag maniac! I will indeed ponder the verbiage for potential utilization...

  6. #6

    IRS criminal behaviour

    I have followed David for many years and stamp the checks "redeemed per 12 USC 411, as agent"

    But... when dealing with the IRS, i am a firm believer in the kitchen sink approach.

    that starts by:

    1) Sending a self executing contract in the form of an affidavit with something like Paul Andrew Mitchells 31 questions to the IRS commissioner by proof of service, Certified Mail, to the Commissioner, with a notarized affidavit that has your revocation, and termination of your signatures from the beginning of time as your recission of the first election to be taxed for fraud, failure to disclose, and discrimination by employers of your right to work if you refuse to fill out a witholding statment.
    2) Sending the same to the Congressman and Senator from your area. (how will i manage my affairs if you dont answer these questions).
    3) Sending the same to the Inspector general of the Secretary of the Treasury.

    4) After 30 days sending an opportunity to cure giving another 10 days to rebut the affidavit of obligation. Finally a default judgement based upon silence, tacit agreement and maxims of law. Have 3 adult witnesses be your witnesses to any responses and issue as a tribunal a certificate of default judgement.

    5) After the 45 days or? and Default has occured then filing your W2's as exempt on information and belief, and qualify your autograph All rights retained, nonassumptsit, by: ____________________.

    6 I file notice and demands in affidavit form, to return my property instead of tax returns (too many traps on a 1040) after showing photos of stamped checks redeemed and and affidavit of no tax liability by silent acquiescence, laches, and estopple, from first Obligation affidavits, the section 83 definition for income (David Myrlands stuff) being the excess of the exchange of services for an arms length agreement of what my services are worth and no "income" (excess) was paid to me, and the fact that no territorial constitutional jurisdiction exists to apply Congressional law on me in the geographical area known and defined in the California Constitution of 1850, and that taxation has been declared by the Supreme Court as an "exaction" (unlawful extortion), etc. demanding to show cause any oath of office by the Commissioner, or who is sending any letters, the authority to violate the 4th, 5th, 1st (redress of greivance) and the State repetition of the same, impair the obligation of a contract between me and my boss, by a third party intervener (IRS), unlawful orders are bills of attainder (judgement without jury trial), IRS is not judicial branch (cant issue orders) and cannot make rules (not legislative branch) etc.

    7) I file a 1 or 2 page FOIA, demanding to have the IRS show any documents purporting to act as an "assessment" or "notice of Lien", or "lien", or "notice of levy" or "Levy" ,and any factual evidence i am an employee of the Federal government, and the full legal names and address for service of process for anyone making any claims upon me.

    8) in response to the FOIA i have a signed statement that the IRS does not have to "create" documents that would be required to answer my request and it "appears" you are challenging your responsibility to pay taxes.
    I replied, thank you for the admission you have no assessments for the 10 years requested and that no liens or levys exist (even tho your garnishing on a bogus levy) and if in fact any factual evidence comes out in the future at any trial I will be charging you (IRS FOIA officer) with concealment 18 USC 2071, 1001 of material facts, have a nice day.

    The kitchen sink re IRS taxation:
    1) The IRS was never created by Congress and have no oath of office making them impersonating public officials (treasury officers).
    2) the Congress has no jurisdiction to legislate laws that apply outside of Washington, D.C. (see my video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVooIVtYvnk I could add alot more cases if I chose to.
    3) the United States of America is a fiction, does not exist, cant face my accuser, cant be an attorney for a fiction (imagine the questions to a subpeona'd US atty "when did you last meet with the Plaintiff?" "when did the Plaintiff sign a power of attorney to let you represent him?", " Do you admit your psychotic as you belief that your client is real but your cant produce them?"
    4) the Plaintiff USA is not a "real party in interest", has no "standing" (personal injury or loss), and cannot ratify the commencement of the action against you. Neither will the Plaintiff ever answer a Bill of Particulars stating the form of law (commonLaw, Equity, Admiralty, or Maritime) and the accounting (showing the contract and monetary exchanges and ledger under GAAP) or criminal act (sans personal affidavit of a man witnessing you committing a crime).
    All Taxation under the Revenue laws is based upon in rem (Admiralty) proceedings and Admiralty only applies on the sea (by SC case law) and cannot come onto land.
    5) No one is a 14th amendment citizen of the United States of America as the required 3 elements being :1) a person (statutorily means a fiction- EJUSDEM GENERIS, 2) born or naturalized in the United States (where's that- UCC--Cal.COM §9307. (h) The United States is located in the District of Columbia.) and subject to the jurisdiction (living in D.C.) and why is that important, the territorial courts (US district courts only have jurisdiction over US citizens- SC caselaw). And what the hell is a Congressional declared "district" doing on California land? That started in 1789 with first judicial act of Congress creating "districts" instead of establishing Federal Courts in each "State" they created districts covering multiple states. And a denial of being a registered agent, or an agent or party to any Corporation, registered organization created by the birth certificate, might help as all taxation in based on involvement in corporate commerical activity (ad valorem).

    If assaulted by the Attys for the USA on IRS issues I would certainly like to have some actual evidence of the IRS agents refusal to come with clean hands and their commission of fraud (silence is faud where there is a moral duty to speak (caselaw) instead of no written evidene. They are at war with the people and ignore each and every form of law and make the law as they go, concealing evidence, tampering with juries, tampering with grand juries, etc. The whole thing is based upon fraud and silence. With a written record they cannot claim ignorance.

  7. #7
    So, the "exigent circumstance" that makes court review impracticable is ... the court's judge has altered the oath?

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by marcel View Post
    So, the "exigent circumstance" that makes court review impracticable is ... the court's judge has altered the oath?
    Thank you both! I am combining both posts quoted to show the contrast. The Kitchen Sink approach is reflective of many years of research and requires some sort of honor behind whoever is hearing the matter. So the Exigent Circumstances would indeed be indictment that there is not.



    Quote Originally Posted by MaxF View Post
    I have followed David for many years and stamp the checks "redeemed per 12 USC 411, as agent"

    But... when dealing with the IRS, i am a firm believer in the kitchen sink approach.

    that starts by:

    1) Sending a self executing contract in the form of an affidavit with something like Paul Andrew Mitchells 31 questions to the IRS commissioner by proof of service, Certified Mail, to the Commissioner, with a notarized affidavit that has your revocation, and termination of your signatures from the beginning of time as your recission of the first election to be taxed for fraud, failure to disclose, and discrimination by employers of your right to work if you refuse to fill out a witholding statment.
    2) Sending the same to the Congressman and Senator from your area. (how will i manage my affairs if you dont answer these questions).
    3) Sending the same to the Inspector general of the Secretary of the Treasury.

    4) After 30 days sending an opportunity to cure giving another 10 days to rebut the affidavit of obligation. Finally a default judgement based upon silence, tacit agreement and maxims of law. Have 3 adult witnesses be your witnesses to any responses and issue as a tribunal a certificate of default judgement.

    5) After the 45 days or? and Default has occured then filing your W2's as exempt on information and belief, and qualify your autograph All rights retained, nonassumptsit, by: ____________________.

    6 I file notice and demands in affidavit form, to return my property instead of tax returns (too many traps on a 1040) after showing photos of stamped checks redeemed and and affidavit of no tax liability by silent acquiescence, laches, and estopple, from first Obligation affidavits, the section 83 definition for income (David Myrlands stuff) being the excess of the exchange of services for an arms length agreement of what my services are worth and no "income" (excess) was paid to me, and the fact that no territorial constitutional jurisdiction exists to apply Congressional law on me in the geographical area known and defined in the California Constitution of 1850, and that taxation has been declared by the Supreme Court as an "exaction" (unlawful extortion), etc. demanding to show cause any oath of office by the Commissioner, or who is sending any letters, the authority to violate the 4th, 5th, 1st (redress of greivance) and the State repetition of the same, impair the obligation of a contract between me and my boss, by a third party intervener (IRS), unlawful orders are bills of attainder (judgement without jury trial), IRS is not judicial branch (cant issue orders) and cannot make rules (not legislative branch) etc.

    7) I file a 1 or 2 page FOIA, demanding to have the IRS show any documents purporting to act as an "assessment" or "notice of Lien", or "lien", or "notice of levy" or "Levy" ,and any factual evidence i am an employee of the Federal government, and the full legal names and address for service of process for anyone making any claims upon me.

    8) in response to the FOIA i have a signed statement that the IRS does not have to "create" documents that would be required to answer my request and it "appears" you are challenging your responsibility to pay taxes.
    I replied, thank you for the admission you have no assessments for the 10 years requested and that no liens or levys exist (even tho your garnishing on a bogus levy) and if in fact any factual evidence comes out in the future at any trial I will be charging you (IRS FOIA officer) with concealment 18 USC 2071, 1001 of material facts, have a nice day.

    The kitchen sink re IRS taxation:
    1) The IRS was never created by Congress and have no oath of office making them impersonating public officials (treasury officers).
    2) the Congress has no jurisdiction to legislate laws that apply outside of Washington, D.C. (see my video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVooIVtYvnk I could add alot more cases if I chose to.
    3) the United States of America is a fiction, does not exist, cant face my accuser, cant be an attorney for a fiction (imagine the questions to a subpeona'd US atty "when did you last meet with the Plaintiff?" "when did the Plaintiff sign a power of attorney to let you represent him?", " Do you admit your psychotic as you belief that your client is real but your cant produce them?"
    4) the Plaintiff USA is not a "real party in interest", has no "standing" (personal injury or loss), and cannot ratify the commencement of the action against you. Neither will the Plaintiff ever answer a Bill of Particulars stating the form of law (commonLaw, Equity, Admiralty, or Maritime) and the accounting (showing the contract and monetary exchanges and ledger under GAAP) or criminal act (sans personal affidavit of a man witnessing you committing a crime).
    All Taxation under the Revenue laws is based upon in rem (Admiralty) proceedings and Admiralty only applies on the sea (by SC case law) and cannot come onto land.
    5) No one is a 14th amendment citizen of the United States of America as the required 3 elements being :1) a person (statutorily means a fiction- EJUSDEM GENERIS, 2) born or naturalized in the United States (where's that- UCC--Cal.COM §9307. (h) The United States is located in the District of Columbia.) and subject to the jurisdiction (living in D.C.) and why is that important, the territorial courts (US district courts only have jurisdiction over US citizens- SC caselaw). And what the hell is a Congressional declared "district" doing on California land? That started in 1789 with first judicial act of Congress creating "districts" instead of establishing Federal Courts in each "State" they created districts covering multiple states. And a denial of being a registered agent, or an agent or party to any Corporation, registered organization created by the birth certificate, might help as all taxation in based on involvement in corporate commerical activity (ad valorem).

    If assaulted by the Attys for the USA on IRS issues I would certainly like to have some actual evidence of the IRS agents refusal to come with clean hands and their commission of fraud (silence is faud where there is a moral duty to speak (caselaw) instead of no written evidene. They are at war with the people and ignore each and every form of law and make the law as they go, concealing evidence, tampering with juries, tampering with grand juries, etc. The whole thing is based upon fraud and silence. With a written record they cannot claim ignorance.

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