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    What is the remedy if the IRS does not honor a lawful money 1040 and instead penalizes you with a $5,000 civil penalty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldi View Post
    What is the remedy if the IRS does not honor a lawful money 1040 and instead penalizes you with a $5,000 civil penalty?
    Prove your innocence - a presumption exists. They think you are Grantee/Trustee with obligations you must set the record straight. Most people just cower in their fear. This is a known response - fear stagnates a man/woman. If the presumption is not defeated the assumption stands. How do I know these things - well dear reader I have myself been down this path.

    Therefore do you know what you are doing - or are you just following a leader. Is it your process or are you just following the process of another? It is just a computer recognizing something that looks like what is thought to be frivolous. Again, I have had many conversations with ignorant clerks - but there is no reason to yell or even complain. My paperwork does my talking. I am holding my own court.

    A demand for Lawful Money is a CLAIM in which relief may be granted IF someone wants to push this to the next level - then fine - I will issue my counter claim and prosecute upon my counter claim. BUT first I will allow for the matter to be settled in private as the Scriptures require.

    The challenge is where most folks wilt like a hot house lily. A $5k fee, in my opinion, nothing more than a proposal to charge the estate. If no response to rebut presumptuous facts in error, then the assumption stands.

    Let me say that David had to go down into that valley to face Goliath. All the other men of war who thought themselves to be somewhat were found to be full of hot air. A bunch of big talkers but when the "rubber hit the road" they wilt. You must face you. This is a spiritual battle - you vs. you. When this came to my door - I actually prayed that it would - I had to check my emotion. I asked for it so that I might be refined and the dross in me might be removed from me. Notice again the "men of war" should be used to conflict and yet when Goliath shows up they quake. Has the IRS or the UN become Goliath?

    A friendly letter or five might be needed. Perhaps a couple of friendly conversations. Nevertheless the clerks are ignorant and so I treat them like they are 95 year old granny with care and respect. They tried to penalize me with 10k against the estate. I hope this gives you hope.

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    What is the remedy if the IRS does not honor a lawful money 1040 and instead penalizes you with a $5,000 civil penalty?
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Prove your innocence - a presumption exists. They think you are Grantee/Trustee with obligations you must set the record straight. Most people just cower in their fear. This is a known response - fear stagnates a man/woman. If the presumption is not defeated the assumption stands. How do I know these things - well dear reader I have myself been down this path.

    Therefore do you know what you are doing - or are you just following a leader. Is it your process or are you just following the process of another? It is just a computer recognizing something that looks like what is thought to be frivolous. Again, I have had many conversations with ignorant clerks - but there is no reason to yell or even complain. My paperwork does my talking. I am holding my own court.

    A demand for Lawful Money is a CLAIM in which relief may be granted IF someone wants to push this to the next level - then fine - I will issue my counter claim and prosecute upon my counter claim. BUT first I will allow for the matter to be settled in private as the Scriptures require.

    The challenge is where most folks wilt like a hot house lily. A $5k fee, in my opinion, nothing more than a proposal to charge the estate. If no response to rebut presumptuous facts in error, then the assumption stands.

    Let me say that David had to go down into that valley to face Goliath. All the other men of war who thought themselves to be somewhat were found to be full of hot air. A bunch of big talkers but when the "rubber hit the road" they wilt. You must face you. This is a spiritual battle - you vs. you. When this came to my door - I actually prayed that it would - I had to check my emotion. I asked for it so that I might be refined and the dross in me might be removed from me. Notice again the "men of war" should be used to conflict and yet when Goliath shows up they quake. Has the IRS or the UN become Goliath?

    A friendly letter or five might be needed. Perhaps a couple of friendly conversations. Nevertheless the clerks are ignorant and so I treat them like they are 95 year old granny with care and respect. They tried to penalize me with 10k against the estate. I hope this gives you hope.

    Shalom,
    MJ
    Johnny Cash has made a salient point that redeeming in lawful money is not listed on the 'frivolous positions' held by the IRS. However, if the IRS has determined that you are simply confirming the 'FRS version' of lawful money by your novation language then perhaps this is why 5K penalties do not seem to be getting exacted on lawful money returns - but the conflict is that the IRS is honoring your TRUE lawful money declaration and non-endorseent of FRS private credit by returning your property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmymoney View Post
    redeeming in lawful money is not listed on the 'frivolous positions' held by the IRS.
    That’s what Gary Rickman did. Stillness in the Storm : Federal Reserve Act Remedy - No Lawful Money, Redemption Account
    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmymoney View Post
    Johnny Cash has made a salient point that redeeming in lawful money is not listed on the 'frivolous positions' held by the IRS. However, if the IRS has determined that you are simply confirming the 'FRS version' of lawful money by your novation language then perhaps this is why 5K penalties do not seem to be getting exacted on lawful money returns - but the conflict is that the IRS is honoring your TRUE lawful money declaration and non-endorseent of FRS private credit by returning your property.
    Do you all actually think a man and woman scans those returns? I have learned in my experience that it may be a year before a man or woman actually gets involved. And most times because I had to force the concern to demanding an audience. You want to throw the clerk at the IRS for a spin - tell her you are seeking a sit down meeting to resolve what has clearly been a computer error. NO FEAR.

    Know you are on solid ground. Those in Sodom and Gomorrah = life in the city of the Carnal Mind - naturally assume everyone is a thief. And that my friends is a double-edged sword that swings both ways.

    BTW: Ownership, Property, Estate and Interest don't mean the same thing. Loose lips sink ships.

    Luk 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

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    I have seen several different examples of redeeming a check for lawful money. Ones using 411, others saying redeem for lawful money, some for deposit only, some for non-federal reserve notes. Some have signatures, others do not. Some write it out, or stamp it. Some have signatures, others don't. Can we clarify this? Can someone give examples for depositing or "cashing" (i choose coin) "at your bank"(different institution) and also for use at a bank for which the check was drawn?

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    clerk appoints judge as the NAMED TRUST its YOU that gets ALL the benefits only two ways to Appear in court as a living Man and remedy he seeks,RE PRESENTING A MAN AS A person ONLY THEN ARE en=titled PERSONS SUBJECT TO benefit the judge warrants.NOTHING WITHOUT A CLAIM AND THAT CLERK OR JUDGE CANT SALVAGE A MAN pardon the shouting a laptop with keys appearing to have trust.
    Last edited by xparte; 02-25-15 at 12:15 AM. Reason: redeemed authors redundancy no value

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    When I take a check to the financial institution for which it was drawn, the teller likes to put my Driver License Number in my endorsement area. Does this have some effect on endorsement and shouldn't they be writing in their area instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NONOFED View Post
    When I take a check to the financial institution for which it was drawn....
    Just a friendly reminder, as "allodial" has mentioned several times in this particular scenario, you are "presenting a draft for payment"....not cashing a check.

    Quote Originally Posted by NONOFED View Post
    the teller likes to put my Driver License Number in my endorsement area. Does this have some effect on endorsement and shouldn't they be writing in their area instead?
    ....are you sure about whose number that is?? Be careful what you lay claim to --> surety-ship applies !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag maniac View Post
    Just a friendly reminder, as "allodial" has mentioned several times in this particular scenario, you are "presenting a draft for payment"....not cashing a check.



    ....are you sure about whose number that is?? Be careful what you lay claim to --> surety-ship applies !
    so the mere fact i'm who i say i am should suffice.. even with presentment of id.. then i shouldn't say who i am as i shouldn't be who they claim me to be.. then no checks, no payments.. money is wrong.. property is wrong.. possession is wrong. Either way your participator with the money and jobs, the daily business. For what, where does it end.

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