Allah? The Moon God?

[allodial]

ALLAH – the Moon God
The Archaeology of the Middle East

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

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In Old Testament times, Nabonidus (555-539 BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma, Arabia as a center of Moon-god worship. Segall stated, "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations." Many scholars have also noticed that the Moon-god's name "Sin" is a part of such Arabic words as "Sinai," the "wilderness of Sin," etc. When the popularity of the Moon-god waned elsewhere, the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the Moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.



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The evidence reveals that the temple of the Moon-god was active even in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrate that Moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al- ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names.

The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."

This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.

In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the Moon-god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is to accept that the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods." This is seen from the fact that the first point of the Muslim creed is not, "Allah is great" but "Allah is the greatest," i.e., he is the greatest among the gods. Why would Muhammad say that Allah is the "greatest" except in a polytheistic context? The Arabic word is used to contrast the greater from the lesser. That this is true is seen from the fact that the pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. This "Allah" was the Moon-god according to the archeological evidence. Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways. To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. But both the Jews and the Christians knew better and that is why they rejected his god Allah as a false god.



Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, "Islam proved itself to be. . . a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry." Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews." The Arabs worshipped the Moon-god as a supreme deity. But this was not biblical monotheism. While the Moon-god was greater than all other gods and goddesses, this was still a polytheistic pantheon of deities. Now that we have the actual idols of the Moon-god, it is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Is it any wonder then that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent moon is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?[Source]

It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, the moon god "al-Ilah" (Allah) had three daughters named al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat. The first two were even named after their father. Each daughter had a separate shrine near Mecca, where Allah's shrine was located. [Source]

Related:

• ALLAH – the Moon God: The Archaeology of the Middle East
• Daughter Gate": Allah's Daughters: el-Lat, el-Uzza and Manat
• The Sabaeans and Himyarites of Yemen were not Arabs
• Daughters of Allah
• The Archaeological Record Speaks
• The Worship of the Moon

[BLBereans]

Nimrod was consecrated as the "Sun God" by his wife ('Semiramis') when she took the reins of rule over Babylon after Nimrod's death. Her created religion is the original Mystery Babylon from which ALL other religions/cults/mythologies/etc. are derived. She exalted herself as the "Moon Goddess" and declared herself a deity to be worshiped. Hence the title "Queen of Heaven", the direct antithesis of our Father in Heaven.

Religion of Babylon

Moon worship is the culmination of the rebelliousness started by Nimrod who was relegated to obscurity after his death other than supplying the "divine rays" through which Semiramis became impregnated with the 'divine son' Tammuz. This is why 'Moon Worship' overtook 'Sun Worship' and why the crescent moon symbol became a mainstay in religions derived from this worship.

Roman Catholic religion

Therefore, "Allah" as the "Moon God" makes sense according to the timelines provided in allodial's postings; "Moon Worship" had already been established at the time of "Mohammed's" declaration, and transformation, of the name "Allah" as the "one god of Islam".

The current narrative regarding who is practicing the "Real Islam" is upside down in my opinion. I believe the so-called "Islamic Extremists" are the true adherents to the teachings of "Mohammed" and his "Koran" and the majority of non-violent 'muslims' are people who know deep down that murder and forced submission is wrong. Therefore, they are really "neo-islamic" and do not follow the example of "Mohammed".

Contrast that with Jesus The Christ; people who do NOT follow His example fall short of being adherents of "The Way"; a state that most self-proclaimed "Christians" fall under even in some cases without knowing it.

It is an interesting dichotomy indeed, thanks again allodial.

[shikamaru]

The current narrative regarding who is practicing the "Real Islam" is upside down in my opinion. I believe the so-called "Islamic Extremists" are the true adherents to the teachings of "Mohammed" and his "Koran" and the majority of non-violent 'muslims' are people who know deep down that murder and forced submission is wrong. Therefore, they are really "neo-islamic" and do not follow the example of "Mohammed".

Contrast that with Jesus The Christ; people who do NOT follow His example fall short of being adherents of "The Way"; a state that most self-proclaimed "Christians" fall under even in some cases without knowing it.

1. Christianity was spread by the sword. Remember Charlemagne and his conquest of Western Europe along with promotion of Christianity throughout the conquered territories? That was all promulgated by the sword.

2. Let's not forget Christianity's role in colonialism, slavery, torture, racism, and warfare throughout Europe and the world.

3. European history is rich with examples of extremism in Christianity. The United States have some examples as well to toss into the ring.

[BLBereans]

1. Christianity was spread by the sword. Remember Charlemagne and his conquest of Western Europe along with promotion of Christianity throughout the conquered territories? That was all promulgated by the sword.

2. Let's not forget Christianity's role in colonialism, slavery, torture, racism, and warfare throughout Europe and the world.

"Charlemagne's method is military conquest followed by forced conversion and the planting of missionary outposts, usually in the form of bishoprics. In his book of rules, the official punishment for refusing to be baptized is death."

Sound familiar?

Your reflex response is typical of those who presume "Christianity", as promoted and practiced by the "Holy Roman Church", is synonymous with the teachings of Jesus The Christ.

That was my point if you actually read what I wrote; those who murder and forcefully submit others to ANY religion are NOT following the true faith as taught by Jesus The Christ. Jesus NEVER instructed His followers to "take up the sword" and implement forced submission unto God around the world. True believers in Christ are peace makers and make a willing choice to worship the true pre-existent Creator of ALL things, YHWH ("I AM that I AM").

Slavery, torture, racism and warfare for the purpose of converting non-believers are ALL against the true teachings of our Lord and Savior, Jesus The Christ. Anyone who practices these things are NOT true believers; the "Pope" is NOT the "Vicar of Christ" as there is no "go-between" for His true followers.

Anyone who believes and follows Jesus The Christ (The Way) is a member of God's set-apart family of Yis'rael (NOT the STATE OF ISRAEL) regardless of ethnicity or race. This is a voluntary choice, not a forced conversion by the edge of a sword or the barrel of a gun.

Can the same be said for "mohammed", the founder of Islam?

[Michael Joseph]

That was my point if you actually read what I wrote; those who murder and forcefully submit others to ANY religion are NOT following the true faith as taught by Jesus The Christ. Jesus NEVER instructed His followers to "take up the sword" and implement forced submission unto God around the world. True believers in Christ are peace makers and make a willing choice to worship the true pre-existent Creator of ALL things, YHWH ("I AM that I AM").

Slavery, torture, racism and warfare for the purpose of converting non-believers are ALL against the true teachings of our Lord and Savior, Jesus The Christ. Anyone who practices these things are NOT true believers; the "Pope" is NOT the "Vicar of Christ" as there is no "go-between" for His true followers.

Anyone who believes and follows Jesus The Christ (The Way) is a member of God's set-apart family of Yis'rael (NOT the STATE OF ISRAEL) regardless of ethnicity or race. This is a voluntary choice, not a forced conversion by the edge of a sword or the barrel of a gun.

Amen. In fact I would say that Buddists are closer to following Jesus CHRIST than modern day Christianity. Modern day Religion with their "dogs of war" mentality promoted to them by their war demi-gods screaming out GOD BLESS AMERICA - away with it. It is REPUGNANT.

Symbols are a way of conveying thought patterns thru time. Unfortunately folks begin to worship the symbol and not what it means. For instance I see folks today dunking and sprinkling and all sorts of nonsense calling it Baptism and yet in no way shape or manner was the symbolic language in the Gospels indicating that one should go to a bathtub or pool and be immersed in water. The WATER is the Truth of God. Baptism is by FIRE - which is to say by the Holy Spirit.

In fact the Holy Spirit thru the writer of Hebrews indicates - just quit all the nonsense - LEAVING the principal doctrines lets move on. Yet those on the spoon fed symbols don't realize they are worshiping Baal by lifting up the symbol as part of their traditions in religion. Another great one is SABBATH.

Modern day religion is so far from the truth of Sabbath as to argue over Saturday or Sunday. I mean if this is not blindness I don't know what is. Sabbath is about coming to REST - the 7th day - man becomes Man. Said another way man is RE-GENERATED or RE-CREATED into Man - which is to say a Celestial Man. One can only come to Sabbath in the Upper Room. No unclean or impure thought can reside in the temple. Therefore no fear, no doubt, no uncleanness abides in the temple. Here there is Rest.

I and the Father are One. Am is present tense. Therefore AM is added. Father's character is "I". For the Kingdom is Within me. Therefore I shall have no other gods before ME. I shall shut out the "men of Sodom" close the door upon the Carnal Mind - which is to say Satan. Before the stones begin to fly - Notice that we are "thought beings". You might consider that carefully.

Read John 1:1 until you get it. Uranus is chasing Jupiter away. The control systems are on the way out. When folks begin to understand that Christ has returned and can be found WITHIN them - the pastors who seek to dominate and control will be out of a job. They will not take too kindly to the message. Nor will the religious for their concept of Salvation is faulty. Unfortunately most have no clue of the Left Hand in Charity or the Right Hand in Knowledge [The House that Wisdom Built].

Therefore SAVIORS are required. Jesus was FIRST of the FIRSTFRUITS plural.

Oba 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.

Jesus was the ENSIGN - the guide. Christ condescended to flesh in Christ JESUS. Jesus was just like any one of us as he had to be and yet folks go around like a bunch of silly cheerleaders in their vain imaginations. If Jesus was not like me in EVERY WAY - then forget it, I don't want another minute of this mess. But he was just like me and Jesus does not show how great He is - he showed how great WE CAN BE. Shall we listen to Jesus:

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, HE DOETH THE WORKS.

Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Now then, Jesus is EXACTLY like me in every way and the Father was in Jesus. Jesus knew where to find the Father so that they might EAT UNLEAVENED BREAD - Spiritual Passover. So that Jesus might find Rest - Sabbath. Let the clowns argue over a day. You find rest in Meditation and that can be EVERY DAY. And should be. Un-Leavened bread is God's Truth - the Heavenly Waters. And yet Religion has most thinking that God lives on some planet way out there in Space or perhaps in another universe. How Absurd. Then as I wait in the Upper Room then as promised I shall be Baptized by the Holy Spirit in Fire. But I must FIRST be washed in Truth. And I sure ain't gonna find that truth in 51000 denominations!

Daniel prayed thrice daily. 1st = Passover; 2nd = Pentecost; 3rd = Tabernacles. It is humorous to this writer than folks are looking for Pentecost and Passover has yet to be celebrated. The kingdom is WITHIN - end of story. Every one out here walking around in Religion is DEAD. From God's perspective these are all dead - spiritually deader than a doornail. To become alive is to be born in the Spirit - which means one is Baptized in the Upper Room.

Very few find this Upper Room BECAUSE they are too busy trying to find God in their own intellect and emotion. These are actually traveling 180 degrees AWAY FROM GOD. But these think they are pleasing God as they seek in their own undertakings. These are Cain. And Father said to Cain - Sin lies at the door. Therefore these remain dead in Spirit and the sword of the Lord - The Word - slays them.

Starting to get it yet? These are their own worst enemy!

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So pick your flavor - it doesn't matter - The Way is narrow and few find it. FEW FIND IT. Give away the stone and you will find.

The Abomination that causes Desolation dawned on me recently. It was the Horror that I stand in my own way - My Ego keeps me out of the Garden - it is the Gate Keeper that keeps me from the Garden planted EASTWARD in Eden. East is at the Right side of the House.

The Kingdom does not come by Observation

The preacher man told me I had to have faith but when I asked him to define faith he failed miserably! Faith is EARNED by relationship. I mean stop and think, one day you took your car to be fixed and you tried a mechanic that came recommended by a friend you trust. You have faith in your friend so you went on faith. The mechanic did a good job so you came back. He EARNED your faith which is to say your trust.

But preacher man told me to put my blind faith in something that he himself is unclear about. In fact I looked at his life and he was a more miserable lot than I was. So I considered and I found that the preacher was propounding his own VAIN IDEAS of Christ. He was not obeying Jesus CHRIST. On the contrary! These are RULERS of Sodom. Overlords of the Carnal Mind - just pay us each week and we will make you FEEL BETTER. Got our fix of religion this week - replace Preacher with DRUG PUSHER and it comes into perfect light.

Isa 1:10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

Isa 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isa 1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

And the preacher man stood up and said "I talked to Godddddddd" last night. But he testifies against himself to be a thief and a robber!

Jer_14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

They all got together and said - "What do you think it means" - that is what they teach! Thinking themselves holy and set-apart these are Agents of Satan in the pulpit - pleasing the ears of the congregation - singing a lullaby - Go to sleep little babe.


Isa 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

Isa 52:2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.


Mal 4:2 But unto you that revere my way shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in Her wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.




CONTINUING....

[Michael Joseph]

CONTINUING...


Picture a loving mother with a baby on her paps feeding of her own body and you will come to see the love of God for you! There is no trite bottle - some sort of substitution. No sir - Like begets Like - God Kind! Fed by God - Herself: Wisdom births the man-child in the Spirit. Amen.


Heb_3:15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

You will not find this sustenance at the feet of Pastor. Do you gather in The WAY that Christ commands or do you just play games and say we gather in his name as some sort of cheerleader? "Go Jesus" - Yippee! Do you think God wants your cheers? These are UNCLEAN desires birthed out of the intercourse of mind and emotion [Jacob and Leah] and will keep you from a face to face relationship with Christ and God THIS DAY. Still, Rachel weeps in her loneliness. Where are her children?


Act 17:25 Neither is [God] worshipped with men's hands, as though He needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

Jesus was ADAMANTLY against organized religion but men wish to define, confine and restrict the Limitless - so they build their houses of vanity and all go there to pat each other on the back just to feel good about themselves. Clearly the Spirit is in these houses, right? Not in a million years!

So for those who are recoiling in shock - answer me this one - show me the authority in the old testament whereof John the Baptist baptized? The Pope, Pastor, and Rabbi could not answer Jesus and neither can you. And yet Jesus submitted to it in an outward show of his turning his back against organized religion!

What say ye? Will you obey Christ or the gatekeepers? A flood is upon us. But the waters of the deep have yet to be released. BUILD YOUR ARK. Christ has returned - Within you!

Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Luk 6:47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:

Luk 6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

Don't be a reader, be a DOER. Now what is this Salvation? What are we Saved FROM? The incredible answer is OURSELVES! How long will you go trying to figure it all out? I can guarantee you will not live long enough!

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

The Is-Ra-El of God is the renewed Mind in submission to The El. IS=Spirit; RA = Mind; EL = God. Rachel bring forth your children! And call this land BEULAH - married.

Isa_62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.


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A paradox therefore exists. I submit my free will to Christ and Father. I then become as a CHILD - acknowledging that I am ignorant, blind and without wisdom. I am met in the Upper Room taught and baptized and then I am given back my free will to go forth and create for the Kingdom of God.

Let me be blunt folks - Moses NEVER climbed a physical mountain. He sat in meditation and ascended in consciousness from Earth to Spirit. And he was then sent to work with those that are earthly. Those that are earthly - carnal - cannot see. They have a veil over their eyes. This veil leads to literal interpretations of the Symbolic Language - and this is where religion comes from and this is why we have wars because the Word is MISINTERPRETED by those who refuse to ascend the mountain. Why that is Eastern. And we be from the West.

Judah - New Jerusalem - camps in the East - SPIRIT [CHOSEN PEOPLE] ===> Right
Ephraim camps in the West - Intellect [WALKING DEAD] ====> Left
Dan - Emotion
Reuben - Physical

There are not chosen or favorite races of men or women! Those who camp in the Right side of the house sacrificing on the alter their ten percent are the IS-RA-EL of I AM. And there shall be no other gods before ME.

Get lost pastor - we don't need you around this house! Now then the beggar will say but what about "where there are two or more gathered in my name".....What about that?

Where two or more are gather IN MY NAME

What do you suppose name means? It does not mean we get together and pat each other on the back and say like a bunch of silly cheerleaders "Go Jesus. Jesus, Jesus, he's our man, if he can't do it, no one can." Far from it friend.

IN MY NAME means according to The Way established by God. So if you don't know The Way then you can't gather IN HIS NAME. It's that simple. To follow Christ is to walk in The Way not to be called a silly name like Christian. That is what the usurpers did. They hijacked the way and renamed it - Christianity to fool the ignorant - I was there too friend so no judgments from this side of the court.

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7760 is alluding to The Way as a purpose or a USE in God. The Way is Spiritual and is in no way associated with your emotions - how you feel. Or your desires.

Psa 119:1 Blessed are the undefiled in The Way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

WAY (derek) is from darak, to tread with the feet, and denotes the act of walking. Hence it is used of a going, or way, or journeying. The first occurrence is Gen_3:24. It occurs in this Psalm thirteen times : vv. Psa_119:1; Psa_119:3; Psa_119:5; Psa_119:14; Psa_119:26-27; Psa_119:29-30; Psa_119:32-33; Psa_119:37; Psa_119:59; Psa_119:168.


Question: Can the carnal man walk in God's Spiritual Law?
Answer: Absolutely NOT.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


Read it again in case you didn't get it. Those who think to please God in their religion are WASTING THEIR TIME. I am reminded of a song by the band Creed. "Should have been dead on a Sunday banging my head" - a WASTE OF TIME.

And yet the clowns call me a worthless sinner. They impose burdens on my back too grievous to bear and NEVER lift one finger to help me understand this burden. WHY: For money, For power, for fame, etc.

Eze 13:18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?

Eze 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?


They do it for money, and they cover up The Way - they HIDE IT. So that you will come in your worthless sorry state BEGGING Alms at the gate because you are too blind to see that the Kingdom of God IS WITHIN YOU. You don't need these clowns. In fact you don't even need a Bible - Just Do It.

Mar_14:15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.

Luk_22:12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.


In fact in most cases it is probably better than one has not been CHURCHED TO DEATH. And on and on the wheel turns - folks feeding their intellect trying to get a grasp on the mind of Christ - and thereby trying to limit the limitless. Give away the stone - else Saturn and his son Jupiter will kick your rear end. Oh you didn't know? The Gospel is written in the stars from beginning to end. But few can read it.

Yep, pastor has got them deathly afraid to look up. With hand held out and smile on face : Pay me!



May the Sun of Righteousness arise upon you.
Michael Joseph

[BLBereans]

In fact I would say that Buddists are closer to following Jesus CHRIST than modern day Christianity.

While I somewhat agree with your fundamental premise regarding those who practice "modern day Christianity", I find your comments a bit overstated and harsh.

Yes, the modern day "Church" overwhelmingly does not get past "Sunday School Milk", but at least they believe in the Creator/Creation paradigm and that said Creator took on flesh and came into the world to redeem us and have a personal relationship with His creation.

I would hardly consider the Buddhists to be closer followers of Jesus The Christ simply because they are better at meditation. On what do they meditate? For the most part, they meditate on reaching Nirvana which is the ultimate state of being; a belief that there is no Creator/Creation hierarchy and that All is One. In other words, Buddhists do NOT believe in our Father in Heaven who will ALWAYS be greater/higher than His Creation.

[allodial]

1. Christianity was spread by the sword. Remember Charlemagne and his conquest of Western Europe along with promotion of Christianity throughout the conquered territories? That was all promulgated by the sword.

2. Let's not forget Christianity's role in colonialism, slavery, torture, racism, and warfare throughout Europe and the world.

3. European history is rich with examples of extremism in Christianity. The United States have some examples as well to toss into the ring.

If you mean "Christianity" in the sense of Roman Catholicism or Simonianism that might be true. There are completely distinct and different groups that are called or refer to themselves as "Christian". Bible believers (Torah and Gospel) are admonished against evangelizing or kingdom building by force of arms (i.e. prospering by the sword). It seems that it was mainly Spanish (Roman Catholic) who brought diseases and slaughter. The Spanish used smallpox and disease to extort and to destroy the native societies. While wars or conflicts were said to have broken out between Protestants and Natives, outright massacre is an entirely different matter--chalk that up to the Spanish.

Soon after landing on the island of Hispaniola, the Spanish began their relentless search for gold.

They told the New World natives that they had been living RENT FREE on the Pope's land for centuries and now it was time to collect the rent . . . with ARREARS!!

Every three months, the Indians were forced to surrender a hawk's bell filled with gold dust. In return they were given a copper token stamped with the date. Those who were found without a current token had their hands amputated as an example to others. Others who resisted were fed to the savage Spanish dogs.

The gold and silver was shipped back to the Vatican to fight the blessed Reformation of Saint Martin Luther.[more/link]

The Spanish Inquisition

The Knights of Columbus have the Borgia Pope as their patron. They have not relinquished their dream of making America Roman Catholic. Tom Ridge of Romeland Insecurity is one of their members.Millions of Spanish speaking people have entered the U.S. since 1964 with the intent of putting this BULL into effect. (Source)

In the words of the author, "An institution like the Roman papacy, conceived in fraud and born in iniquity, was bound in the order of God's law, to produce its crop of evil, and of this crop probably the Borgia Pope is the most striking example, though by no means the only one. Pope Alexander VI was the one who gave the entire New World to Spain, during the early days of exploration of the Americas. Thus the incestuous Borgia Pope Alexander VI becomes the fitting patron of the Knights of Columbus in their effort to "Make America Catholic", which proposition is further strengthened by the action of the Knights of Columbus in selecting the Borgia Coat of Arms to adorn the walls of their Oratory in Rome. (Source)

The Spanish Inquisition in the U.S.

Re: the term "Christian"

How and when was the word "Christian" first used? The term 'Christian' was used to describe a follwer of Christ in terms of the world, from the world’s point of view. The pagans at Antioch called the apostles "Christians" first (Acts 11:26; 26:28) and used it derogatorily because the apostles didn’t follow the commercial world of the pagans. "Christian" is an adjective, not a noun. The substance is not in the word "Christian", the substance is in the heart of the man it is attempting to describe, and which the pagan user cannot see.

Christ never called himself a Christian, Christ never called his followers Christians. The apostles never called each other Christians. Christ never used an adjective to describe himself. So how are we to identify ourselves then? The disciples called each other, "brethren", "disciples", "apostles", "servants", "believers", "followers", "the faithful", "the elect", "the called", and "saints." We can also identify ourselves as "bondservants" of Christ.

Related:

• Should We Call Ourselves Christian (the true bible believers aren't Simonians)?
• In the Pillory (more on the Knights of Columbus)
• The Devastation of the Indies: A Brief Account (by Bartolome de Las Casas)
• Roman Catholic and Islamic Parallels

[BLBereans]

The Crusades, Christianity, and Islam

The modern narrative regarding "The Crusades" is yet another way to obscure the truth regarding the true followers of "mohammed" and Islam. The violent "jihadists" adhere to the same practices of the founder and creator of the religion of Islam - 'submission' not peace. The "Crusades" were mostly a defensive response to the offensive invading armies of Islam into the lands of "Christendom".

Obviously, I believe there is more to the violence of "jihadists" than pure religious fanaticism; there are forces behind the scene funding both sides as a tactic of distraction. Using easily brainwashed and weak-minded people to meet a certain end has been commonplace for eons.

[allodial]

A Muslim Freemason admitted that many pretend to be Christian while practicing Islam in secret and have done so throughout history. Asserting an inside view he stated that for the most part Freemasons practice Islam in secret while outwardly pretending to be Christians. He even stated that many pretend Christian churches were run by Freemasons. He also gave a kind of impression that Muslims believe themselves to be "the true Jews" (thus the no eating pork, Halal meat, etc.). That might explain the hostility toward non-Muslims who hold themselves out to be Jews.

So, I asked him if all that were true, how could he blame Christians for anything knowing that even he himself pretends to be Christian knowing that the Bible doesn't promote spread of the gospel by military means. The look on his face ...

was to say the least unusual. What came to mind was a cyclic redundancy error on an old 80s home computer.

Nowhere in the Bible is there any support of spreading the Gospel by sword. It is PSYOPs against true bible-believers and has been for centuries.

As for self-defense, the Barbary Treaties were catalyzed by frequent Muslim raids of ships and countries whereby Muslims would take people into slavery. I was surprised to find that Muslims and Arabs were the predominant slave traders. The notion that Muslims subjected African Christians to slavery is not far-fetched.

There is reasonable evidence that those on Christopher Columbus' ships who were keen on slave trade weren't Christians and that there were those who renounced their Catholic beliefs to profiteer from slavery.

In the past many years, the Bible has been falsely made out to be about a "White Man's" religion or a "slave master" religions. From decades of analysis, this was deception to undermine the strength of "Black" and "White" Christian communities--to destroy them one way or another. Look at the communities today. One of the saddest deceptions foisted on young Black men is the idea that they'd find think they would find freedom and equality among Arabs or Arab religions (i.e. among the primary slave traders and perpetrators of that kind of bigotry).

One pro-communist, Islamist I know of spoke of how much stronger Black families and communities were in the 60s and early 70s. The two major trends were that Islam and Pop culture (feminism, etc.) started taking hold and eroding the moral and spiritual strength and foundations of those communities.


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If it were a European religion someone forgot to tell the Christians of Africa--they've been at it since around 42AD and hundreds of years before Constantine was even born.

One of the most bizarre manifestations of African-American pride is its contemporary identification with Islam. The Nation of Islam (Black Muslim movement) plays on the racism against black people by white people hence you hear them use terms like "white devils", etc.

The Muslim Hadith says Muhammad was a white man, so Black Muslims actually serve Islamic whites, even though they speak against whites. [Source]

Not to mention that there Mohammed's wife (Khadija) may have been Jewish!

Khadija - was the first wife of the Prophet Muhammad.A follower of Judaism, according to traditions she became the first female convert to Islam, the new religion Muhammad had begun to preach. She was approximately 15 years his senior when she proposed the idea of marriage. She married him in 595. She supported him throughout his mission and such was his love for her that he took no other wife until after her death. The year of her death has been named the "Year of Grief", because of the devastation it caused the Prophet. She was his only wife for about 25 years until her death.

Related:

• Black Muslims*
• So What Is the Truth About the Crusades
• The Dark History of the Templars (Where the Templars really Bible-Christians?)
• Barbary Slave Trade
• White Slaves, African Slave Traders, and the Hidden History of Slavery