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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Abraham was approached about bearing offspring--his faith was of utmost importance--Hagar isn't what God had in mind. Mary was approached about bearing offspring--again faith was in her response. This is not necessarily about allegory this is the stuff of spiritual law. Application of spiritual law or bearing witness of spiritual law in operation is not allegory for someone who takes spiritual things to be of primary reality. The carnal mind is fixated on the physical. Spiritual does not necessarily mean allegorical. A hair split is not an allegorical hair. And who splits hairs for the sake of splitting hairs?
    First of all the LORD came to Abram IN A VISION - Abram was in a trance.

    Abram is the Carnal Mind. Living in UR of the Chaldees - worshiping the MOON GOD - Called Sin. Sin is the God of.....wait for it.....EMOTION.

    Abram was told to get up and leave this place in the Valley - For UR was a city of Babylon a DESERT and WASTE PLACE - which is the Carnal Mind in intercourse with Emotion. Abram obeyed and headed South. Lets look to see some interesting facts about his journey.

    Ai= a waste heap was on his left = his intellect, rationalizations
    Bethel - house of God was on his right

    Sarai was Abram's wife of Emotion. And she cracked up when the Promise came. She Sarai made sure that her desire to please Abram was realized so she offers up Hagar her maid servant.

    Sarai means - a head person - the wife of emotion ruling the husband of mind is the place called where Sin is worshipped in the low places of the earth [carnal mind]. Earth means base consciousness.

    Hagar means - flight [this goes to a fear response]

    Ishmael is the wild man - because he is the son birthed out of the Carnal Mind. Hard to control. We all have children called Ishmael in our lives. We think to control our mind but we all have some thoughts that seem to control us.


    El Shaddai is the Holy Spirit. Abram obeyed and was washed with truth, he walked in God's Way and then and only then did El Shaddai come to Abram in Gen 17:1 - remember the Kingdom is within you - so these are thoughts held in vision in the upper room. El Shaddai told Abram he was to be called Abraham.

    Abram is no longer Carnal Minded. Abram was tested and tried and found to be not wanting and El Shaddai baptized Abram and he was reborn Abraham [Higher Mind]. And Sarai was reborn into Sarah [princess]. Sarah therefore represents NEW JERUSALEM and this city of the Great King is found Within you and me.

    For we all are Abram and Sarai. And we hopefully will all be Abraham and Sarah. And therefore the child of Promise can only be birthed by the Spiritual Woman. For the Carnal Woman births only carnal desires and therefore bondage. In other words there is an internal war.

    But when the child of Promise comes by the Spiritual woman there is peace confirmed by God. For Mary was a SURROGATE. For Sarah represents that which the Holy Spirit births in us as conceived by Heavenly seed. Shoot let me nail it down.

    Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Spirit [female nature] shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest [male nature] shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.


    We have a Mary aspect in each of us.


    Now then, it is these sons of God that are birthed in the Heavens of our Mind [Higher Mind] which are send to the Earth as Immanuel - God with us. These thoughts renew our Lower Mind and bring our Lower Self into compliance with our Higher Mind. Thus our Land becomes married.


    Gen 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.


    Now LOOK AGAIN with new eyes. Abraham is the Higher resurrected Mind and every man-child of thee is Abraham in intercourse with the Spiritual bringing forth works of the Spirit. Thus Abram surrendered free will only to have it returned to him once he became a Man.

    Think present tense - I AM. What do you bring forth and how do you do it? For HIGH is the Way but we have been carnal for too long.

    Gen 15:12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.

    Kind of like Adam, yes? The sun of his understandings was going out on Abram - and to his GREAT HORROR he realized he had it all wrong. Everything he thought he knew was a lie. And he realized that he needed to get his house in order - but he did not know how.

    Gen 15:17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.


    When all of the carnal thoughts were silenced, then the Lord appeared!

    Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

    And while the foregoing is an allegory concerning each and every one of us today folks are still fighting over the physical earth. What a shame. Gen 15: 19-21 represents the mixed serpent seed - thus the carnal mind - will be made to serve the Higher Mind. And it will no longer be winter and Spring will come!

    But when the Promise does not come immediately look how we can rationalize within ourselves for our own good. We see the Emotions working overtime to see about another way - Oh Look - Abram use Hagar. And because it looks good, it appears good, we rationalize it is good. But it is a spotted cow. And that cow must be sacrificed on the alter of the Mind.



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    MJ
    Last edited by Michael Joseph; 03-09-15 at 05:26 AM.
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