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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Technically, it is an asset ....
    From Bouvier's Law Dictionary (1856)

    ASSET.
    thank you for that, but clearly that asset only exists within the trust. Property called asset is Right of Use. The Asset is the right of use. And typically the asset is Registered on a Trust Asset Registry - typically known as Register of Deeds. Or County Clerk and Recorder. The Property or Asset is wholly dependent upon Survey and Claim. And Use depends on Claim - I mean who has the right to the Use is derived from the Claim. Therefore the Use being put into Trust is split into Legal Use and Equitable Use. And then there are those who do not hold titles and they are just mere "End User" or plain ole "User" by way of Usufruct. A legal right.

    Legal goes to Trust. Right goes to Trust property. Therefore Legal Right is Property held in Trust for a User.

    I mean how on earth would one come to Possess [another trust term, yes] a new Vehicle - absent some sort of "Legal" [again goes to trust, yes] tender from Within, some trust? Possess is actually incorrect, really Use is a better term.

    I hate Collectivism - but thanks to Plato, Kant and Niche who hold that the State is Supreme - we are bombarded daily by the Fasces

    Just read Senate Resolution #62 - page 13

    If the argument of collectivism appeals to you then we are all one and everything is entangled. Therefore what is man but an expression of God and therefore man is God. Here I cannot go. Pantheism - all is God. Or said another way - the Universe if God. heard that one lately? And yet the proponents of this philo-SOPHY as they claim to be wise also espouse Trust doctrine. I mean just read carefully that [de]finition of "asset". A trust begs a particular society. Therefore a trust excludes a particular society by its very nature. Therefore a Trust is in opposition to the ALL and yet Senate Resolution #62 declares the State is Supreme Person.

    How preposterously absurd. Never in my existence has something come to be absent Force or Intent. And yet, these fix that abomination against nature by claiming the Universe just "came to exist." How utterly convenient.

    Therefore, it is also convenient that I have choice. My expression of my Faith or Trust - by my own singular purpose absent the need to bundle a bunch of sticks ready for the slayer [axe]. The "covering" of State is interesting indeed - fig leaves. A lie to keep man from Full Liability to his fellow man.

    Sorry to go into philosophy when we are talking law but is not all Law a benefit? Therefore a benefit issued by whom? Trusts are quite slippery indeed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    thank you for that, but clearly that asset only exists within the trust. Property called asset is Right of Use. The Asset is the right of use. And typically the asset is Registered on a Trust Asset Registry - typically known as Register of Deeds. Or County Clerk and Recorder. The Property or Asset is wholly dependent upon Survey and Claim. And Use depends on Claim - I mean who has the right to the Use is derived from the Claim. Therefore the Use being put into Trust is split into Legal Use and Equitable Use. And then there are those who do not hold titles and they are just mere "End User" or plain ole "User" by way of Usufruct. A legal right.
    This is why I personally make a sharp distinction between the terms asset and property.
    Property, as I define it, means property held as strictly jus privati.
    Asset implies commerce as well.
    Asset is a species of property. A subset.

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    The property in the hands of an heir, executor, administrator or trustee, which is legally or equitably chargeable with the obligations, which such heir, executor, administrator or other trustee, is, as such, required to discharge, is called assets. The term is derived from the French word assez, enough; that is, the heir or trustee has enough property. But the property is still called assets, although there may not be enough to discharge all the obligations; and the heir, executor, &c., is chargeable in distribution as far as such property extends.

    I mean this is the definition of Charge. One who issues a Charge must discharge the Charge upon the owners Estate. Who Owns the Property or Asset? If I am mere user, I am not Owner. How can I discharge the Charge?

    Is not Right = Property. What then of Privilege extending from Right? Is it not still within Property? So who holds the Legal/Equitable Title. It can't be me, if i am mere user.

    so we can't have it both ways. Either I am liable and if such, I am trustee or I am not liable, I am user. but if trustee, when did i take an oath? Constructive Trustee? did I commit a tort?

    Clearly Driving is said to be a privilege coming from legal right. So who holds that Property [privilege] in trust? Not me. You? I doubt it. So then who is responsible for that Right and the Privilege? If I am mere user of that privilege, I am not responsible and I cannot discharge any charges that issue as a result of that privilege.

    State as fig leaves - a covering.

    Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.
    Last edited by Michael Joseph; 06-20-11 at 09:27 PM.
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