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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    What is a gang to someone might be a government to someone else.



    If you can even rightly call it a "government". Perhaps "junta", "tyranny, "cabal", "rape club", "mini-banana republic" or "gang" might find more appropriate use. Most people outside of Missouri probably have zero idea what its really like. In St. Louis County north of Olive Road, you might get a random road block in broad daylight. Go south, it gets more Jewish and the skin complexion gets paler, you don't get that kind of thing. Most all of the schools in St. Louis County would be in horrible shape if it were not for the mandatory (they were never voluntary) desegregation programs that caused hundreds of millions of dollars to be diverted out of "Black communities". What they call "government" in North St. Louis County is a system of snares and traps designed to oppress for the dollar's sake.

    Property values in "Black communities" are kept low systematically because HUD and the Government promote the crime and drug hubs in those areas.

    It is oppression that has bred crime.
    This gives me more to chew on ... keep filling the plates as always, allodial.

    You can consider those "communities" containment units.



    So much for equal application of the laws!!
    Last edited by shikamaru; 04-05-15 at 03:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    You can consider those "communities" containment units.
    Ever seen District 9? I know of a very honest and intelligence brown-skinned Christian (one of the most intelligent folks I've ever met) that lived near St. Louis in a quite nice neighbhorhod. He had a job a a manager at a restaurant and could easily ride his bike to work. He told me that EVERY MORNING the cops would stop him and detain him and question him in the same line of questioning for months and months. Among the questions was "Why don't you get a car?". Of course they were just attempting to get him to react in a way so they could arrest him.

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    Those cops were behaving more like "Forest Wardens" and thusly revealing their hidden purpose or function. Maybe truckers are wiser than most realize in calling cops "Smokey". If he had a car, they would have had actual more "jurisdiction" over him. But, since he was avoiding going in debt over buying a car and being trapped into paying fees/fines, they harassed him daily--for not feeding the system (i.e. making their cousin/Brother rich).

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    Similarly, if someone lived on a farm near a small town and walked took a 45 minute walk to get to work, cops might harass them into getting a car. "Why are you mysteriously walking at 5am in the morning? That's dangerous. Buy a car?"

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    I have come across similar situations of someone who avoided car notes by buying cars in the 1000 to 3000 range and fixing them up. His relatives and the "Urban Watch" folks would make false calls on him ranging to nonsense to get him "pulled over" (they had sold into the system and were in debt so they envied him; the cops hated that he stayed out of trouble). So they called in a lie about his SUV being being "filled with debris" [i.e. a magazine and a newspaper on the guest seat (passenger is a commercial term; have guests rather than passengers) and all of the windows were tinted to limo black so you couldn't even see into the back of the SUV--I've seen the SUV. He kept it clean. Tools were in boxes. The tinting on the back was too dark to see through even in the daytime.].

    They would steal his cars leaving him without a way to get to work. Of course his tools were in the car too (tools that he used for his car repair and concrete business--they were in tool boxes) and so they would SELL THE TOOLS AND THE CARS/TRUCKS once they towed them! They stole three vans, one SUV and three cars from him all based on lies--and the cars were parked on private property! The situation was so nasty the FBI took over the City towing system.

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    When he started running into financial trouble, people came along offering him $10K a trip to run drugs from Mexico to St. Louis, they even attempted to bait him into getting involved in running prostitutes (they wanted him to use his skills and intelligence to help boost their cashflow and used those kinds of tactics to oppress). Of course, cops were involved.

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    He always had a backup plan and had written a very good screenplay was about to sell it. Yet, someone (a drug dealer and pawn) stole his manuscript and took it a municipal judge who sold it and took credit for it. When he attempted to seek redress, they threatened to have him arrested. For what?

    The know that he could make millions. So they used police tools, gang stalking, etc. to follow him, to break into his house--to gain excuses to search his bags (looking for $$$ information).

    Of course, there is no allegiance as to citizenship in a situation like that--because citizenship is a bilateral contract. But they would try to make claims based on presumed citizenship which the "Government" itself has vitiated.

    They told this DEA agent not to enforce drug laws in white areas. Really.
    The key is cleansing those organizations of the corruption. Most of it appears to exist because of secret society membership. Its pretty obvious that "White Neighbhoors" are were the drugs are used and "Black Neighborhoods" are were the drugs are purchased. If Police Chief A knows that Fraternal Brother B is profiting from selling drugs, Police Chief A tells the cops to look the other way or be fired or even worse. I have rarely ever seen cocaine used or laid out on the table in a Black neighborhood party. However, go to a 20 million dollar mansion on the other side of town, cocaine laid out in in lines on mirrors might "normal" at a 16 y/o's birthday party. "Black" neighborhoods are oppressed because they know hardly anyone would sell drugs unless they are in such a #### up situation where they have to do it to survive--same with prostitution.
    Last edited by allodial; 04-05-15 at 04:28 PM.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Ever seen District 9? I know of a very honest and intelligence brown-skinned man (one of the most intelligent folks I've ever met) that lived near St. Louis in a quite nice neighbhorhod. He had a job a a manager at a restaurant and could easily ride his bike to work. He told me that EVERY MORNING the cops would stop him and detain him and question him in the same line of questioning for months and months. Among the questions was "Why don't you get a car?". Those cops are behaving more like "Forest Wardens". If he had a car, they would have had actual more "jurisdiction" over him. Since he was avoiding going in debt over buying a car and being trapped into paying fees/fines, they harassed him daily.
    Palani (from another forum) was big on Forest Law (royal demense) in English history.

    Seems Forest Law was 'outside the law'. Rights were curtailed rather than wholesale abrogation or removal.
    Last edited by shikamaru; 04-05-15 at 03:53 PM.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    This gives me more to chew on ... keep filling the plates as always, allodial.

    You can consider those "communities" containment units.
    Funny, allodial was the one who "filled the plate" with the "Breitbart" sourced video which you continue to "chew on".

    I agree with allodial's comment, "...I find Sheriff Clarke's taking a stand to be awesome..." and with Sheriff Clarke's sentiments; in my opinion, your views do not coincide with either.

    It is you who is bummed out because I do not buy into your absolutism on the issue.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by BLBereans View Post
    I agree with allodial's comment, "...I find Sheriff Clarke's taking a stand to be awesome..." and with Sheriff Clarke's sentiments; in my opinion, your views do not coincide with either.

    It is you who is bummed out because I do not buy into your absolutism on the issue.
    No, you are projecting.
    Conservatives are the most offended (and combative) when you don't toe their ideological line.
    You are free to your opinion. Just don't ever expect my agreement with it.

    At this point, no budging shall occur. We can simply leave it at we mutually disagree with our counter-party's arguments and position.
    Last edited by shikamaru; 04-05-15 at 03:55 PM.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    No, you are projecting.
    Conservatives are the most offended (and combative) when you don't toe their ideological line.
    You are free to your opinion. Just don't ever expect my agreement with it.

    At this point, no budging shall occur. We can simply leave it at we mutually disagree with our counter-party's arguments and position.
    No one else supports your false assertion that I am "projecting"; you keep repeating that in the hopes that someone may actually believe it.

    I already have stated that I prefer clarity over agreement; it is not my intent to get you to agree, just to clarify the reasons for the stance taken on the threads topic.

    BTW, who said I am a "conservative"?

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by BLBereans
    I already have stated that I prefer clarity over agreement; it is not my intent to get you to agree, just to clarify the reasons for the stance taken on the threads topic.
    You mean you seek consensus from others.
    Even if I am the only one here with these opinions and stances, I continue to stand upon them as a reflection of my experiences.

    A majority only means something in a democracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLBereans
    BTW, who said I am a "conservative"?
    You gave yourself away as soon as you used "liberal" as a pejorative.
    Last edited by shikamaru; 04-05-15 at 04:15 PM.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Millions (of other African-Americans) support my position.
    You just happen to be one who doesn't. Not that I would expect you to being you haven't walked this road.
    My assertions are true and factual. I would support them with first hand, personal testimony from personal experience.
    How about you?



    You prefer your opinion. No denying that.
    Your biases are clear. I wouldn't deny that.
    You've provided no clarity. I wouldn't deny that either.
    Millions (of other African-Americans) support your false assertion that I am "projecting"??? Wow, how do you know that? Do I have that much widespread influence that you have garnered a consensus of "millions" who see this supposed "projection"? Please be honest and actually read what I write before you dry-heave your responses.

    I believe that many, many people support Sheriff Clarke, and he actually has PROOF; he was re-elected with the support of many black votes in his community.

    I believe Sheriff Clarke's assertions are true and factual and he supports them with first hand, personal testimony from personal experience. That is what upsets you.

    Of course I prefer my opinion, do you not prefer yours? What a redundant statement.

    Your biases are painfully clear, anyone can see that.

    I've provided the clarity that I agree with Sheriff Clarke's comments; it is you who are denying him simply because he is able to intelligently articulate a common sense stance that differs with yours. The fact that he is "African-American" is really at the heart of your vitriol.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by BLBereans View Post
    I've provided the clarity that I agree with Sheriff Clarke's comments; it is you who are denying him simply because he is able to intelligently articulate a common sense stance that differs with yours. The fact that he is "African-American" is really at the heart of your vitriol.
    The fact he is "African-American, he should know better. We all make choices, however.

    I'm going to say that the usage of Sheriff Clarke by law enforcement and the conservative media is the same tactic that was used by Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood to sell their wares irrespective of the soundness of it all.

    Nothing new. A common technique used throughout history.

    If not the above, at least it makes conservatives feel good about themselves.
    Last edited by shikamaru; 04-05-15 at 04:24 PM.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    You mean you seek consensus from others.
    Even if I am the only one here with these opinions and stances, I continue to stand upon them as a reflection of my experiences.

    A majority only means something in a democracy.



    You gave yourself away as soon as you used "liberal" as a pejorative.
    You are either intentionally lying or demented; show everyone where I used the word "liberal" in this thread even once.

    It is your "plate-filler" allodial who has used that word on numerous occasions within this thread. Will you now label allodial a "conservative" for using said "pegorative"?

    This isn't the first time you have done this; I NEVER attached or pasted anything from "Breitbart" as you also falsely accused.

    This is why I do not hold your opinion in any regard on this topic; you are obviously blinded by your ideology to the point of accusing me of things I do not do.

    Sound like a familiar tactic used by the "mainsteam media" who also hold the same opinions as you. Thank God we have people like Sheriff Clarke who are honest and honorable when expressing their opinions even in the face of the vitriol coming from people like you.

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