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    CONSTITUTION AND TRUST Part III - by Michael Joseph 30-November-2018



    If you really stop and think about matters and focus on that thought for some time as I have attempted to do over years now, you will eventually arise at the conclusion to this global conspiracy. Said conclusion is Socialism. Now in Socialism government is as God to the people. Because government takes the tithes and redistributes the wealth as it sees fit. So if you are inventive or you have high initiative, then your creativity can and will be stolen by those with guns. Oh yes, friends that is the reason why there is a huge brainwashing now to remove guns from the people. If you can see that guns are even more valuable than gold, then you can finally begin to see that Socialism is overt Slavery! And without your ability to protect freedom, you will have no ability to resist the "government guns" which will come for your wealth. So then the wealth of the individual is stripped and given to government which will eventually lead to the "shrugging of Atlas' shoulders". Those who create will stop because it is not fair to work hard so that my work might be given to some flunky who has a liberal arts degree and does not help society in the least fashion. In other words, those who do not produce in Society will be rewarded by their God which is the "hollow horn" or the mouth piece of Government.

    As such, it is obvious that a mind control program must exist in order to lull the thinking mass into a deep hypnotic trance. And this is done thru the process of dialectics. The eventual success of dialectics is the development of the God man in the vision of the mass. And this God man is called President, or Potentate, Priest, Pope, etc, etc. So you don't talk bad about my God man is on the lips of every being who has been brainwashed. You will notice if you listen to the News Media that it matters not if my God man has done horrible deeds, I will just point the finger at your God man and so we are stuck in lunacy.

    In fact, instead of being trapped in the duality of the dialectic, if one raises up a pillar as a testa-ment of self awareness, self governing, self actualization, then one rises up out of the hog slop of politics. No longer can the whispering serpent poison the water will his flood of lies. For the waters which flow forth from the serpents mouth are indeed lies. Think about life for a moment. Does it not seem to you when you open up your eyes in the morning that you are not met with a flood of lies? Men who appear as women, and vice versa; IOU's floating around as money, politicians flooding the airways with untrue rhetoric to favor the support of their masters, etc, etc. So then is it not hard to find another who has an ear to turn off such non-sense? Think about the mass who has believed the lies and continue to do as such. And then in empathy and compassion realize that they are where I once was and that means these have been brainwashed by those who have to keep the mass in a state of confusion in order to retain their great wealth, power and control.

    For if the mass ever awoke from their great slumber, then, would they resist this tyranny. I cannot say it any more simply than this: The most dangerous place on earth is a gun free zone! And if you argue against such a statement, then in fact you have already surrendered yourself to another in hope that your master will treat you fairly - don't count on it. Being in full liability means that you as Creator take the surety for your Creation.

    Heb 7:22 By so much hath Jesus become a surety of a better covenant.

    ==============

    Regarding the Preamble as a Trust Indenture: And it most certainly is that: The claim is the United States. The claim was not the subjects of England who occupy in those Plantations. Thusly the res of said trust is and was the property Rights established in the Landed Estates called Colonies.

    Therefore from the perspective of the illusionist/hynotist, it is imperative that the mind control grow even more pervasive so that they might never to be part and parcel to the hidden oppressive hand of which they are only too glad to point out as some sort of nebulous Illuminati.

    Here's a great secret, if you point the finger and blame another, then you resist that one. And in resisting that one, you grant that one power over you. Your resistance acknowledges their power over you. To blame another for your condition is a surrender of your own individuality in God to another. And once you do that, then you have a Sponser, a Re-Presentative, a Priest, a Governor and therefore someone else standing in God on your behalf.

    Those who complain about their so called leaders admit in their complaining they are slaves. Those who praise their so called leaders admit in their praise that they are slaves. Because ye would believe a lie, God sent unto them strong delusions that they would not see the truth. Now before you point the finger at the I AM, you might understand the formula of thought which governs your world. If a belief is lodged in your subconscious mind, then every time something triggers that belief, then your subjective mind will deliver up to you recognition and acknowledgment of your belief. BECAUSE the subjective mind will manifest for you the world you believe exists. It will point out to you, every instance of your believed world. I say believed world because that stands in contradistinction to your perceived world. So all the beauty and possibility is lost and unseen because the subconscious mind delivers to your conscious mind the fruit of your belief!

    So now you see why the "tight rope walker" needs a mind control program. The mass must be subdued. The mass in their mind is a profane beast which must be tamed, controlled at all times. For in the so called rational of the overlord class - the priestly ruling class - ROFL - the mass is irrational and must be controlled. So how do you handle an irrational child or rather pacify such a child - give the child everything it desires under the illusion that they "earned it." Better said under the illusion that they "own it." When in fact the child merely possesses a use and the ownership remains in the parent - which is to say, the ones doing government on behalf of the children [mass] before God.

    Now do you understand the Tithe system? One of you asked privately. Now do you see if you refuse to tithe your thoughts Godward, then you end up by operation of law, tithing your creativity Earthward. And in the latter, you subject yourself to another man. Therefore one in the latter sense, gets strength [his arm] in Flesh.

    It has always been I. I and only I can curse Me. And yet, even those who play the role of My adversary are in fact an outward expression of my inward thoughts and emotions. For I only find that which I believe to find. And I polish the diamond of my existence upon the multifaceted beliefs growing as oak trees in the Earth of my sub-conscious Mind. So in fact it is as Adam Curtis related THERE IS A POLICEMAN IN EVERYONE'S HEAD (Century of the Self).

    So now consider one who fights for individual rights does this one not therefore fight for everyone's rights? And the only question left to be answered is within what trust is this one struggling. For clearly one struggling for freedom struggles against an oppressive mob. Which is to say an oppressive mind set of beliefs held by an obeying mass. One will gain a tremendous insight when one realizes that Jesus did not open his mouth once to resist the so called State.

    But it's alright Ma, I'm only sighing..... "from the fool's gold mouth piece the hollow horn" - Bob Dylan

    Make it a great day.
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    CONSTITUTION AND TRUST Part III - by Michael Joseph 30-November-2018



    If you really stop and think about matters and focus on that thought for some time as I have attempted to do over years now, you will eventually arise at the conclusion to this global conspiracy. Said conclusion is Socialism. Now in Socialism government is as God to the people. Because government takes the tithes and redistributes the wealth as it sees fit. So if you are inventive or you have high initiative, then your creativity can and will be stolen by those with guns. Oh yes, friends that is the reason why there is a huge brainwashing now to remove guns from the people. If you can see that guns are even more valuable than gold, then you can finally begin to see that Socialism is overt Slavery! And without your ability to protect freedom, you will have no ability to resist the "government guns" which will come for your wealth. So then the wealth of the individual is stripped and given to government which will eventually lead to the "shrugging of Atlas' shoulders". Those who create will stop because it is not fair to work hard so that my work might be given to some flunky who has a liberal arts degree and does not help society in the least fashion. In other words, those who do not produce in Society will be rewarded by their God which is the "hollow horn" or the mouth piece of Government.

    As such, it is obvious that a mind control program must exist in order to lull the thinking mass into a deep hypnotic trance. And this is done thru the process of dialectics. The eventual success of dialectics is the development of the God man in the vision of the mass. And this God man is called President, or Potentate, Priest, Pope, etc, etc. So you don't talk bad about my God man is on the lips of every being who has been brainwashed. You will notice if you listen to the News Media that it matters not if my God man has done horrible deeds, I will just point the finger at your God man and so we are stuck in lunacy.

    In fact, instead of being trapped in the duality of the dialectic, if one raises up a pillar as a testa-ment of self awareness, self governing, self actualization, then one rises up out of the hog slop of politics. No longer can the whispering serpent poison the water will his flood of lies. For the waters which flow forth from the serpents mouth are indeed lies. Think about life for a moment. Does it not seem to you when you open up your eyes in the morning that you are not met with a flood of lies? Men who appear as women, and vice versa; IOU's floating around as money, politicians flooding the airways with untrue rhetoric to favor the support of their masters, etc, etc. So then is it not hard to find another who has an ear to turn off such non-sense? Think about the mass who has believed the lies and continue to do as such. And then in empathy and compassion realize that they are where I once was and that means these have been brainwashed by those who have to keep the mass in a state of confusion in order to retain their great wealth, power and control.

    For if the mass ever awoke from their great slumber, then, would they resist this tyranny. I cannot say it any more simply than this: The most dangerous place on earth is a gun free zone! And if you argue against such a statement, then in fact you have already surrendered yourself to another in hope that your master will treat you fairly - don't count on it. Being in full liability means that you as Creator take the surety for your Creation.

    Heb 7:22 By so much hath Jesus become a surety of a better covenant.

    ==============

    Regarding the Preamble as a Trust Indenture: And it most certainly is that: The claim is the United States. The claim was not the subjects of England who occupy in those Plantations. Thusly the res of said trust is and was the property Rights established in the Landed Estates called Colonies.

    Therefore from the perspective of the illusionist/hynotist, it is imperative that the mind control grow even more pervasive so that they might never to be part and parcel to the hidden oppressive hand of which they are only too glad to point out as some sort of nebulous Illuminati.

    Here's a great secret, if you point the finger and blame another, then you resist that one. And in resisting that one, you grant that one power over you. Your resistance acknowledges their power over you. To blame another for your condition is a surrender of your own individuality in God to another. And once you do that, then you have a Sponser, a Re-Presentative, a Priest, a Governor and therefore someone else standing in God on your behalf.

    Those who complain about their so called leaders admit in their complaining they are slaves. Those who praise their so called leaders admit in their praise that they are slaves. Because ye would believe a lie, God sent unto them strong delusions that they would not see the truth. Now before you point the finger at the I AM, you might understand the formula of thought which governs your world. If a belief is lodged in your subconscious mind, then every time something triggers that belief, then your subjective mind will deliver up to you recognition and acknowledgment of your belief. BECAUSE the subjective mind will manifest for you the world you believe exists. It will point out to you, every instance of your believed world. I say believed world because that stands in contradistinction to your perceived world. So all the beauty and possibility is lost and unseen because the subconscious mind delivers to your conscious mind the fruit of your belief!

    So now you see why the "tight rope walker" needs a mind control program. The mass must be subdued. The mass in their mind is a profane beast which must be tamed, controlled at all times. For in the so called rational of the overlord class - the priestly ruling class - ROFL - the mass is irrational and must be controlled. So how do you handle an irrational child or rather pacify such a child - give the child everything it desires under the illusion that they "earned it." Better said under the illusion that they "own it." When in fact the child merely possesses a use and the ownership remains in the parent - which is to say, the ones doing government on behalf of the children [mass] before God.

    Now do you understand the Tithe system? One of you asked privately. Now do you see if you refuse to tithe your thoughts Godward, then you end up by operation of law, tithing your creativity Earthward. And in the latter, you subject yourself to another man. Therefore one in the latter sense, gets strength [his arm] in Flesh.

    It has always been I. I and only I can curse Me. And yet, even those who play the role of My adversary are in fact an outward expression of my inward thoughts and emotions. For I only find that which I believe to find. And I polish the diamond of my existence upon the multifaceted beliefs growing as oak trees in the Earth of my sub-conscious Mind. So in fact it is as Adam Curtis related THERE IS A POLICEMAN IN EVERYONE'S HEAD (Century of the Self).

    So now consider one who fights for individual rights does this one not therefore fight for everyone's rights? And the only question left to be answered is within what trust is this one struggling. For clearly one struggling for freedom struggles against an oppressive mob. Which is to say an oppressive mind set of beliefs held by an obeying mass. One will gain a tremendous insight when one realizes that Jesus did not open his mouth once to resist the so called State.

    But it's alright Ma, I'm only sighing..... "from the fool's gold mouth piece the hollow horn" - Bob Dylan

    Make it a great day.
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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    ONE man or woman can make a difference!

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    Subject: RE: Constitution and Trust - Part IV - by Michael Joseph 6-December-2018

    I have heard many relate even myself that there is no money but this is an incorrect statement.

    Try to imagine a situation where you go and setup a bank as a REpository of, let's say, 1 Million pounds Gold. Now, let's imagine that you were able to setup a contract whereupon you were able to issue chits in the amount of say 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, and 100 denomination and these chits would be used as Money of Account WITHIN [I say "Within"] said Trust boundary. You can imagine a large amount of land purchased and that said land might be placed in a Trust and then said economic condition might be setup. So for the sake of this discourse imagine that the contract is established and that you stood as surety upon your own wealth to bring into circulation said chits [errrr Notes

    Tangent: The astute reader will immediately recognize Divine Mind, Higher Mind and Carnal Mind. Or better said we each are God's Legal Person. For it is not I that works, but the Father in Me does the Work. Therefore in relation to Divine Consciousness, a vessel Am I in the image of the Original Creator. Therefore God's Person Am I. Better said God's Wife Am I. The two becoming one: I AM - AM I. A Declaration [The Word expressed] of Trust establishes a Landed Estate. I digress.

    Now said chits are not exactly Money, per se, as they represent an interest in the 1M pounds of Gold [I chose gold because king Nebuchadnezzar's statue had a Head of gold] of which you established as Surety for all the trade within the Land Trust of which you might have established. What is important is that it was you who put up the Surety and therefore those chits being passed around by others in no way give the others ownership but rather merely a possession upon their use of your chits to gain a purchase.

    Now let's say you establish a government to administrate the affairs of the Land Trust. A Board of Directors is established, we will call that BOD a Congress for this example. And also officers are established for this Trust Company and lets call those officers, President, Vice President, Secretary, etc, etc. Of course at the establishment of said Trust, you hired on Trustees who will hold this Trust Company and all that it entails in Trust for you and your heirs. Let's call your heirs your posterity.

    So then the Legal aspect of this trust - let's call that Title - is held by your Trustees on the behalf of you and your heirs. Therefore the TRUE OWNERS are you and your heirs. Actually, depending on how the Trust was setup the heirs may only be potential owners as the Earth and all she has is for the Living. And any "potential" heir may or may not exist. And thusly the term heir or posterity is merely an unnamed placeholder contemplating a disposition of the property held in said Trust.

    Initially, the government of the Land Trust Company worked on behalf of you and your heirs to protect your creation but your vision was so vast that it contemplated that others might come one day and Subscribe as members to your Trust Company so that they might too be able to Enjoy the property of which your Trustees hold on the behalf of the TRUE OWNERS. This Enjoyment in a sense then contemplates the use of property which belongs to another. And please imagine that use, for the sake of this writing, to be called a possession.

    Now it was your intention as the creator in allowing others to subscribe to your trust company that these others might be vested with certain privileges within the [by]Law boundary of your Trust. So a contract was established whereby the people who took shelter under the Shade of your Trust Company might also develop a vested interest in its promotion for the good of all those who Subscribe as members. However, in becoming members of said Trust Company said people would have to abide by certain rules, codes and regulations as you intend to keep the peace in righteousness and in equity. So rolls were setup in order to keep track of who has the legal right to possess certain properties WITHIN your Trust Company.

    So now let me ask you, if I were to come and begin to reside upon property held within your Trust Company, and thusly subject to your Trust Company, and I began to make a use of the chits in order to gain a possession of said property, is that property ownership mine or does it belong to your Trustee? What is mine? It is merely the possession, yes? And don't I hold that possession in Trust for you and me too? And by me don't I mean myself and my heirs? So then we have another layer of trust, yes?

    And furthermore, let's say that I obtain many chits thru my labor on the property [errr Plantation] of which you setup and I make a use of said chits to "pay" for certain services, is not my "payment" really just a image of the real? What I mean is, it only looks like I paid, but in reality I used your property to gain a legal right to possession and while it appears I have the ownership, in reality, I only have the legal right to possess and enjoy this property subject to the administration of your Trustee, Officers and Board of Directors.

    Let's say the BOD determined that said property could be put to a much better use for everyone in the Trust Company, even the Subscribed membership, if the property of which you have obtained legal right to possess was removed from your possession. Doesn't the Owner have a right to do with his property what the Owner wants? Of course, Equity must be considered in Righteousness, so you should be justly compensated for your loss of Use [possession]. And what did you use to obtain said legal right to possession - was it not chits? And therefore you have the equitable right of enjoyment of your possession as long as you remain your legal right of possession. But now I digress.

    How would said chits come into circulation, except thru an arm or agency of your benevolence? And perhaps the BOD by and thru its Officers setup banking institutions that issued said chits into circulation so that the chits might be used to gain said possessions upon property held within the Trust Company. And then perhaps the "value of possession of property within your Trust Company" was established upon said chits.

    Now then I ask you, is it possible that a Subscribed member to your Trust Company might come to own any property held by your Trustee(s) and managed by your BOD/Officers? Is not their ownership merely a possession of a use for their enjoyment and subject to the bylaws of the government of your Trust Company?

    Now let's say a Subscribed member desires to gain a purchase for his enjoyment of a certain property but he does not have enough chits to satisfy the "value of possession of said property". So said Subscribed Member went to another Subscribed Member of your Trust Company and asked for a loan of chits to satisfy the "value". Is this loan legal within your Trust Company? Well, yes of course it is. Did the Lender have ownership of the chits or did the Lender have use of the possession of said chits? The answer is the Lender had merely the use of the possession of said chits! And this use is subject to the bylaws of the Trust Company.

    Now did not the Lender "credit" the borrower the use of said chits upon an agreement established between the Lender and the Borrower? Could not the Lender setup a Trust so that the Lender's interest in his "use of the possession of the chits" be secured or preserved if the Borrower cannot or will not keep his promises? Is this not the right thing to do in terms of the preservation of equity for the Lender? Better said: If you were a Lender and you made a loan to another so that they might go and "buy" let's say a car, wouldn't you want to secure your position with a little more than a handshake in case of an accident or in case of default? I know I would.

    So that we might keep the narrative in focus, all of these chits were founded upon you setting up a RE-pository of Gold and then issuing chits to be used within your Trust Company. Now let's say the Borrower comes on hard times due to no fault of his own and he cannot pay his creditors the chits he has promised to pay in order for said Borrower to retain the REGISTERED OWNERSHIP of the property of which he was making a use by and thru possession.

    Question:
    1. Does the Borrower Own the property?
    2. Does the Lender Own the property?
    3. Who Own's the property and why?

    Now then if the government of your Trust Company has setup certain provisions for righteousness in Equity such as bankruptcy so that the Borrower might be able to redeem his right to pay his Lender in righteous equity, is not the Lender by making loan to Borrower subject to said provision? I mean if the Lender is doing business within the law boundary of your Trust Company is not said Lender subject to the bylaws of the government of your Trust Company? Of course the answer is yes!

    continuing....
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    Now, try to imagine that you, as Creator of this Trust Company enter into a contract with another Creator of a Trust Company and as security you pledge all the property in your Trust Company in case you default. Now try to imagine that you default. You as the TRUE OWNER of your Trust Company must now assign all the beneficial interest of your Trust Company to the one of whom you defaulted and now your Trust Company is subject to the Will of another. For the true Ownership has changed. The government [BOD and Officers] no longer serve you, but they serve another.
    Perhaps the original chits can remain and perhaps another set of chits will issue whereby the new owner desires to "tax" the use of those chits - a rent or a Fee. Now you can restart and reread this entire post with the consideration that you are not the True Owner of the Trust Company. But let's put in another caveat. Let's say that your pledge to your Lender allowed for certain provision if you could not pay such that you might "mortgage" your Trust Company such that you might retain a Right to Redeem your Trust Company if you could perform in the future - or you could retain management if you could pay the rent [fee or tax].

    Questions:
    4. Are the residents within your Trust Company with the ability to pay your Creditor?
    5. Are the original chits that you issued worth anything to your Creditor?
    6. Can the residents use the "new chits" issued by the New Owner to pay your Creditor?

    I have been a little loose with my language but please try to contemplate the foregoing with the idea of "Assignment of Value" in relation to True Ownership and Equity. Now reread again but imagine that someone else put up the 1 million pounds of gold as surety for your Creation. How would that change the arguments herein?

    Imagine a king, who was renting his crown, financed your Trust Company. I trust you have been edified. I look forward to the response. I hope there are some intrepid amongst this group who will engage in this discourse.

    Question:
    7. Would it be legal to use gold to obtain a possession within your Trust Company?

    Now try to IMAGINE..... instead of the home of the Fee and the land of the Slave. God is One - Freedom in I AM. For God owns All. Let those who understand say I AM. For I AM you and you AM I.

    With best regards,
    Michael Joseph
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    No enforced compliance

    I found this interesting. My friends file a TY2016 return with a lawful money reduction on income. For whatever reason the IRS balks and sends out the 3176 letter "you filed a purported tax return..." etc. Don't know, maybe they did something wrong as it relates to David's method, but after back and forth without payment the IRS sends it out to a third party debt collector, CBE Group. Take a look:

    But where is the enforced compliance? No wage garnishment, no lien, no levy. The primary taxpayer still has the W2 job (employment) and bank accounts. So the IRS certainly has the capability of just grabbing the $ but what do they do - ship it out to a debt collector! Friend says they've been getting these CBE Group collection letters for years but hasn't paid a dime.

    Seems to me like this IRS debt is of a different nature. Like it's not really owed.


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    Refusal for Cause to Debt Scavenger

    Quote Originally Posted by marcel View Post
    I found this interesting. My friends file a TY2016 return with a lawful money reduction on income. For whatever reason the IRS balks and sends out the 3176 letter "you filed a purported tax return..." etc. Don't know, maybe they did something wrong as it relates to David's method, but after back and forth without payment the IRS sends it out to a third party debt collector, CBE Group. Take a look:

    But where is the enforced compliance? No wage garnishment, no lien, no levy. The primary taxpayer still has the W2 job (employment) and bank accounts. So the IRS certainly has the capability of just grabbing the $ but what do they do - ship it out to a debt collector! Friend says they've been getting these CBE Group collection letters for years but hasn't paid a dime.

    Seems to me like this IRS debt is of a different nature. Like it's not really owed.


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    Thank you for showing us.

    I have not seen this for several years now. R4C is very effective against debt scavengers. Your friend might benefit from my $2,500 Lesson Plan:

    1. true identity
    2. record forming - Refusal for Cause
    3. redeeming lawful money

    The brain trust (125 suitors) broadcasts make the price all the more well worth it!

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    Yes, they're aware of your offer; told them many times. And if it were me I would have R4C'd that letter within 3 days. My point is... there appears to be 2 types of IRS debt. And what determines whether a tax debt is sent to enforced collection or a third party debt collector? Amount too low? Insufficient assets to levy? Lawful money on the return?

    I mean debt collectors only collect about 16.5% on average. Is the IRS giving up, surrendering?
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    Sorry for not posting, busy with the documentarian, Leslie Stahl, finding my family, etcetera. Turns out my grandma has an accent because she came from the garage and traveled here via pocket. Anyway I guess you all noticed that lawful money returns are delayed this year...?

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    Gold is fine white powder. Money (in my mind) is just not what it used to be!

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    Yeah, I get it. You're saying the most important use of gold, to humans, is as the powder/starfire/manna because of its positive effects to our body & minds. Not exactly a mainstream viewpoint and I suspect the scientific community isn't easily convinced. The XRF spectroscopy of ORMUS shows more Rhodium and whatever gold present to be a gold hydroxide compound. Not exactly like the XRF of pure gold. Of course the Hudsonites will say it's because the gold is in different state (orbitally rearranged?) But you may be onto something nonetheless.

    eerily quiet here. You think they're about to pull it?
    No one wants to talk about the recession, corona-hoax, the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA)?
    Last edited by marcel; 08-18-22 at 04:55 PM.

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