Someone should beat the counties to the punch, and announce the birth of their baby first in time at the county recorders, claiming the entire name as the given name for their baby.
Then let the hospitals (et al) do their dirty work, and register the birth of the name.
Mary Croft regret's not registering her children.
I guess I should correct that statement.
She regret's not registering the event.
Yeah, there was a story in the media a few months ago, about a young lady who "couldn't prove her citizenship", because her parents never "got her a birth certificate". Her complaints, while childish, we're typical of what I'd expect to hear from modern young Americans. I actually saw her point, since it was obvious that she simply didn't understand what the purpose of a BC was.Originally Posted by walter
What if her parents had made a prior claim on the name given to her, and recorded it, and then let the state record its vital statistics? I think it would have answered their objections to the BC, and the girl also would have no cause to complain. Today, she'd have the option to use the State BC, while having evidence of a prior, private birthright.
I like that!
Miyamoto MUSASHI, invulnerable samurai rogue:
1) Do not think dishonestly
2) The Way is in training
3) Become acquainted with every art
4) Learn the ways of every occupation
5) Distinguish gain and loss in worldly matters
6) Develop intuitive judgment and an understanding of all things
7) Perceive those things that cannot be seen
8) Pay attention, even to trifles
9) Do nothing that is of no use
That is found in Timing in Strategy - A Book of Five Rings.
By registering the birth at the county clerk and recorder you then serve it on any Department of Health. Use that proof of service for the hospital when they start pestering you for signatures on any birth certificate. The problem is that you would need a private or professional process server running around doing all this for the parents while they bond with the infant at the hospital. And it would be nice to have a friend telling the officials to get out of the hospital room too.
Well, if my parents had done what I'm suggesting, I'd have evidence that my name is mine and mine alone, without any state agency attached. I'd still have the option to use the agency, or in the alternative, if I didn't wish to use the agency, I'd have very good evidence of my status as a native born Californian, and not simply being a resident thereof.
As far as the problem of having to do the work of performing a survey, preparing a notice, and making the record with the county, I think people should actively be doing that, regardless of the extra effort. It would give their posterity the option to use the State agency or not. There would be a clear record of both the State agency, and the private name.
The problem that I see is you are still using their registers.
If you real want out then you will have to create your own register (UN recognized) so you can deposit the SOLB.
I don't think the registering of the birth event is the problem as much as the BC is.
The SOLB should be the ticket to your share of the common wealth.
The BC is abandoning that share created from jurisdiction hopping.
Leaving the garden of Eden to do commercial adventures.
With out the SOLB you are stateless, a refugee. Now you need protection from the very state you want out from.
8) Pay attention, even to trifles
9) Do nothing that is of no use
we must lean how to execute what we have before changing it,
the SOLB is the most powerful instrument we will ever have yet we do nothing with it.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'their' registers. I see it no differently than posting notice on a tree in the town square, or in a newspaper. I'm seeing it not as a registration, but rather as public notice. Am I missing something?
As far as finding a real out (without doing what I'm suggesting with a prior, public announcement), I think its very simple: just quit using the family surname.
Who owns the tree in town square?
If I own the tree and you tack a document to it then you have deposited your document with me.
I hope your document has value so I can sell it.
but isnt there another document? the Certificate of live birth (is what walter says SOLB?) and the Birth Certificate but I seem to recall that someone somewhere mentioned another document prior to both of those that was just basic details and it was used to make the COLB but not an official document, more like just notes taken at the time?
it may just be a regional thing or it could also just be me over recalling something on the subject and nothing at all.
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