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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbinville View Post
    In Massachusetts, I bought my house 30 years ago this month, using a quitclaim deed to my wife and I as tenants by the entirety. Just for fun, I ran the title as far back as I could, and got to 1688 before the trail ran dry. It turned out that the woman who sold the land then was the daughter and heir of a man who came over with the original 1630 Puritans, and who was given fee simple title to his land by the Crown.
    Thanks for that bobbinville.

    Looking for the 1630 Puritans I came across some things, never heard of the 1630 Puritans before.

    In an unprecedented move designed to further their purposes, the Congregationalist merchants had decided before leaving England to transfer the charter and the headquarters of the Massachusetts Bay Company to New England-what the Crown had given, the Crown could take away. Thus the settlers would be answerable to no one in the mother country, and would be able to handle their affairs, secular and religious, as they pleased. http://brownellfamily.rootsweb.ances...Pilgrims2.html

    The name "puritan" came to be used to describe members of the Church of England who wished to purify it of all semblances to the Roman Catholic Church, in particular the liturgy, vestments and episcopal hierarchy. The Puritans emphasized that they did not wish to destroy the Church of England, nor did they want to separate from it. Their sole aim was to restore it to its original purity. http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h573.html

    TO HAVE and to hold, the said part of New England in America, which lies and extends and is abutted as aforesaid, and every part and parcel thereof; and all the said islands, rivers, ports, havens, waters, fishing, mines, and minerals, jurisdictions, franchises, royalties, liberties, privileges, commodities, hereditaments, and premises whatsoever, with the appurtenances unto the said Sir Henry Rosewell, Sir John Young, Thomas Southcott, John Humphrey, John Endecott, and Simon Whetcombe, their heirs and assigns, and their associates, to the only proper and absolute use and behalf of the said Sir Henry Rosewell, Sir John Young, Thomas Southcott, John Humphrey, John Endecott, and Simon Whetcombe, their heirs and assigns, and their associates forevermore; To be holden of us, our heirs and successors, as of our Manor of Eastgreenwich, in the county of Kent, in free and common socage, and not in capite, nor by knights service; Yielding and paying therefore unto us, our heirs and successors, the fifth part of the ore of gold and silver, which shall from time to time, and at all times hereafter, happen to be found, gotten, had, and obtained in any of the said lands, within the said limits, or in or within any part thereof, for, and in satisfaction of all manner duties, demands and services whatsoever to be done, made, or paid to us, our heirs or successors, as in and by the said recited indenture more at large may appear. http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/organic/1629-cmb2.htm

    In the United States, land is acquired in basically one of two ways; from the government or from an individual. The first sale of land from the government to a person is called a grant or a patent. Thereafter, the sale of that land from a person is called a deed. https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/...d_and_Property

    The united states became incorporated in 1871 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0163253AATSfpu

    The United States 'government' is actually the United States Corporation. It was created behind the screen of a 'Federal Government' when, after the manufactured 'victory' in the American War on 'Independence', the British colonies exchanged overt dictatorship from London for the far more effective covert dictatorship that has been in place ever since. http://www.freedom-school.com/the-un...rporation.html

    Since most of the Indian nations had supported the British during the Revolutionary War, the Thirteen States were cautious in approaching their former enemies. Populating the frontier with citizens skilled in defense offered the best prospect in enticing other settlers to join them. Veterans were knowledgeable in the use of firearms and in military strategy. Knowing that they would be defended if the need arose was reassuring to many settlers. The state governments also realized that the revenue derived from the sale of vacant lands in the west was badly needed. The extension of settlements on the frontier would, in time, also increase the tax rolls and contribute to the reduction of their Revolutionary War debts. In the aftermath of the war, the states with transappalachian claims ceded some of those claims to the federal government, but not until they had the assurance of being able to fulfill their bounty land commitments. http://www.genealogy.com/24_land.html

    Bought this and another presidential land grant at an estate sale for $1 each. This one is signed by Martin Van Buren (1837-41)--who everyone knows--was our 8th president sandwiched between Andrew Jackson and William Henry Harrison. The land grants were issued to veterans of the War of 1812 and other settlers as a means of enticing them to settle lands in the "west." Due to the large number of grants and presidential carpal tunnel (not really), most were signed by a secretary after 1833 and not worth much over $100, but they are somewhat interesting. Click to enlarge. http://www.lancezedric.com/2012/01/p...nts-1800s.html
    Last edited by Chex; 10-06-13 at 02:38 PM.

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