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    Receiving income makes one liable for taxation according to George Gordon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Receiving income makes one liable for taxation according to George Gordon.
    And he is right.

    What you do with what you receive is another thing altogether. See that a Corporation must pay in Federal Reserve Credit. That does not mean I have to USE federal reserve credit.

    There must always be choice. And in fact there is a choice. But to make a demand for Lawful Money per 12USC411 while removing one from the Federal Reserve Districts in no way transfers the Legal Right to manage the "Intangible Property" (IP); whereupon, IP is income, money, wages, etc...
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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    Good thing I received lawful money and not income.

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    On the subject of taxation, back in January one here finally found "taxpayer" defined in the Internal Revenue Manual while researching foreign estate EIN information.

    21.7.13.2.1 (10-01-2012)
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    • A taxpayer is a Form 1040, U.S. Individual Income Tax Return, filer and has a Keogh plan, or is required to file excise, employment, or alcohol, tobacco, or firearms returns.
    Fishnet

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneFree View Post
    Good thing I received lawful money and not income.
    Brother I would be careful with that assessment. IMHO: Lawful Money would be income to you. But, I believe, it comes with different obligations.
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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    WHAT PUT THE WORD “VOLUNTARY” IN FEDERAL TAXATION?

    Washington, D.C., December 24, 1872.

    According to an act of Congress of that date, 27 Stat 401, assessments of all federal taxes, which were heretofore made by persons in the Offices of Assessor and Assistant Assessor, would, by July 1, 1873, be performed by the Collectors of Internal Revenue or their deputies and the offices of assessor and assistant assessor would be abolished and the duties of those officers would henceforth be transferred to the Collectors of Internal Revenue.

    On August 28, 1894, the Collectors of Internal Revenue and Deputy Collectors of Internal Revenue had been assessing, levying, collecting and paying into the Treasury of the United States of America all internal revenue they received less their compensation for more than 20 years.

    The Act of August 28, 1894, 28 Stat 553-560, an act to reduce taxation, to provide revenue for the government, and for other purposes, in Section 29 imposed a duty on:

    “all persons of lawful age having an income of more than three thousand five hundred dollars for the taxable year, computed on the basis herein prescribed, to make and render a list or return, on or before the day provided by law, in such form and manner as may be directed by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, to the collector or a deputy collector of the district in which they reside, of the amount of their income, gains, and profits…”

    The imposition of a duty to make a list or return of taxable property made the 1894 Income Tax a direct tax on property, which was the opinion of the Supreme Court of the United States in the Income Tax cases, Pollock v. Farmer’s Loan and Trust Co., 157 U.S. 429 (1895) and Pollock v. Farmer’s Loan and Trust Co., 158 U.S. 601 (1895)

    Almost 20 years later, after the ratification of the 16th Amendment, Congress enacted another federal income tax law, which the Supreme Court first declared to be constitutional in Brushaber v. Union Pacific, 240 U.S. 1 (1916). As in the 1894 Income Tax, the Collectors of Internal Revenue and Deputy Collectors of Internal Revenue played the significant role in the assessment, levying, collection and payment of internal revenue. The Collectors of Internal Revenue and Deputy Collectors of Internal Revenue continued to pay a significant and critical role in federal income taxation until the 1952 abolition of the all the Offices of the Collectors of Internal Revenue and Deputy Collectors of Internal Revenue

    For over 150 years the Collector of Internal Revenue was the Tax Man in the United States. During the 150 years the Collectors of Internal Revenue collected taxes within the United States they had the power of Congress to assess, levy and collect federal taxes and most important they had the power of distraint—the authority to seize the property of the tax debtor for non-payment. Neither the Secretary of the Treasury nor the Commissioner of Internal Revenue could at anytime assess, levy and collect any federal tax, so not possessing authority to tax they could not delegate that power to another.

    The Collectors of Internal Revenue survived many forms of novel taxation during their tenure, including the 1894 federal income tax, but the Collector of Internal Revenue couldn’t survive government’s 1952 plan to expand federal income taxation by turning the country into a democracy where anyone could volunteer to pay taxes.

    The power of the Congress to tax incomes, reaffirmed in the 16th Amendment, can be traced back to the temporary tax noted in Article 4 of the Northwest Ordinance of July 13, 1787. Income tax assessments and collections began with the appointment by the President of assessors, assistant assessors and collectors and deputy collectors under the Act of July 1, 1862 12 Stat 432. Assessors were to be abolished by July 1, 1873 and the Collectors of Internal Revenue and Deputy Collectors of Internal Revenue were to be gone by December 1, 1952, making 1952 the first year of voluntary federal taxation.

    If you would like to learn more about law, government and taxation contact me at edrivera@edrivera.com

    Dr. Eduardo M. Rivera

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishnet View Post
    On the subject of taxation, back in January one here finally found "taxpayer" defined in the Internal Revenue Manual while researching foreign estate EIN information.

    21.7.13.2.1 (10-01-2012)
    3.
    Note:
    • A taxpayer is a Form 1040, U.S. Individual Income Tax Return, filer and has a Keogh plan, or is required to file excise, employment, or alcohol, tobacco, or firearms returns.
    This BATF connection is very revealing. Please notice the date for this process (linked below) and please allow for how much I have learned and changed over the years. There is something in it about the BATF owning the phone line for the US Supreme Court that has always struck a chord - chiefly with your point in post.

    Thank you.



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    Everybody loves to complain about taxes but wants the benefits they provide. Roads, schools and so on have to be paid for, at the federal, state and local levels. State income taxes have been a bit of a hot topic. These taxes are despised by some and several states are taking a look at ditching them, but there is evidence as to how good and bad they really are. Read more: State Income Taxes, Sales Taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariusB View Post
    Everybody loves to complain about taxes but wants the benefits they provide. Roads, schools and so on have to be paid for, at the federal, state and local levels. State income taxes have been a bit of a hot topic. These taxes are despised by some and several states are taking a look at ditching them, but there is evidence as to how good and bad they really are. Read more: State Income Taxes, Sales Taxes.

    Thank you Marius;


    Overall my gripe is not about taxes, it is about central banking and United Nations municipal combinatoric mathematics. Simply put, that debt has been assigned value and more specifically beyond the creditor, in marketplaces created out of conditioned delirium called Bailout, Derivatives and now Quantitative Easing. That value is cancelled in any new suitor going through the Lesson Plan described here:

    1) true identity
    2) record forming
    3) redeeming lawful money

    As I say quite often though, this is not for everybody - the brain trust anyway. We manage a carefully regulated relief valve system for a highly compressed information infrastructure called Money. If everybody suddenly realized how absurd it is to assign value to debt (Special Drawing Rights) then the world's economies would all disappear overnight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mariusB View Post
    Everybody loves to complain about taxes but wants the benefits they provide. Roads, schools and so on have to be paid for, at the federal, state and local levels. State income taxes have been a bit of a hot topic. These taxes are despised by some and several states are taking a look at ditching them, but there is evidence as to how good and bad they really are. Read more: State Income Taxes, Sales Taxes.
    Roads are paid by gasoline taxes, schools are paid by property taxes. Income taxes, according to the Grace Commission report cover letter are used to pay the interest on the US Debt and to transfer payments [social security, welfare, etc.] http://docs.law.gwu.edu/facweb/jsieg...taxes/debt.htm The only reason income taxes are still in place is to attempt to soak the buying power out of the pockets of the people to keep the sham of a monetary system afloat for as long as possible.

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