Important Answers About Ownership of Federal Land

[Michael Joseph]

Thank you MJ;


That would be reference to a book by David Joel BAKST. Rabbi Joel correlates DMT with the Bible parable rather well.

David Merrill,

Check out this short video. Look at the Great Hall. I think this is what David Joel was writing about when he spoke of the "Cave of Luz". And unfortunately many miss the boat when he speaks of "focus on Jerusalem". I don't believe he is speaking of physical city/land. I think he speaks of the "New Jerusalem" which is metaphysical or mystical Jerusalem. That which is represented as the Pine Cone.

For the Holy Spirit baptizes with Fire. And we know that "New Life" comes to the pine forest when the pine cone is set ablaze the seeds [of thought] renew and bring Man into the 7th day or Kether. For the two [Wisdom and Understanding] have become One.

I can't wait to read Dr. Stassman's works.

[allodial]

....DMT .....

Consider for a moment the body, the brain and the Earth experience being a kind of sensory deprivation chamber (for beings capable of awareness across multiple dimensions). When it is necessary for a higher level of awareness to be acquired, perhaps DMT is released as part of allowing the experiential limitation filters to be bypassed. That is, perhaps there is so much information on so many levels, the body and Earth experience is a kind of multi-level and multi-dimensional "sensory deprivation chamber". Proofs of this found in the Ganzfield Experiments which cause the occular systems to CEASE the supression of experiential irrelevant information--just like a sensory deprivation chamber. Perhaps the body and brain are doing the same thing!


The body makes one focus in the same way a cockpit makes the pilot focus--minus 500 MPH winds and all kind of noise or freezing temperatures. Binoculars also make one focus (removing all of the other inputs). There is more to life than meets the eye. Taking in the experience of what happens when one of two pilots eject from a fighter plane might help with the notion of how the cockpit helps limit information and input and helps a pilot focus. Anti-overload prevention of sensory systems is also found in physics (i.e. inverse square law).

I don't believe he is speaking of physical city/land. I think he speaks of the "New Jerusalem" which is metaphysical or mystical Jerusalem. That which is represented as the Pine Cone.

Well its rather obviated in Ezekiel and in the NT that its not all necessarily about physical land or physically observable kingdoms. It might be that a polity even in Ancient Greece was made up of men not buildings or soil. The tangible systems can be teaching tools to teach about the spiritual by using parallels and allegories. The tangible systems are not necessarily merely allegorical themselves. Even in modern times, there are two distinct types of governments or kingdoms: a territorial system (based on land) and one based on the heart or mind (personal). The U.S. is unabashed about its recognition of personal jurisdiction. In this perspective "playing God" takes a richer meaning.

Even the dances in European and other royal courts are said to have specific meaning. The dance is actually real and tangible in the physical but yet it points to allegory. The dance of history has been much the same.

Unless someone really insists on willfully turning a blind eye to the truth, Freemasonry itself is full of physical representations of intangible concepts. The phallic symbol is tangible it is not allegorical stone, it is real but it symbolizes something. Likewise, rites/rituals are actually physically carried out --even war could be said to be a ritual--even though they might tend to lean to the symbolic. Millions of people act out rites every day (from war to marriage) and somehow we are supposed to think everything in the past to have been merely allegorical. Perplexing.

Perhaps MJ might be interested in R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz's work Symbol and the Symbolic: Ancient Egypt, Science, and the Evolution of Consciousness?

[Michael Joseph]

Even the dances in European and other royal courts are said to have specific meaning. The dance is actually real and tangible in the physical but yet it points to allegory. The dance of history has been much the same.

Yes, one would have to be ignorant to say that the symbol has not been made in stone; however consider Isis which stands for Spirit. She is looking for a means to impregnate herself - a sad tale indeed. For at once, man has fallen into Carnality which is symbolic of Set killing Osirus. And therefore man has not honored his Father or his Mother. Rather man honors himself in Carnality.

We can see in Isis molding the Phallus - the IDEA of developing a means to bring forth the Divine in Man. The means to birth the man-child [Rev 12]. For at every moment the Dragon [Carnality] stands ready to devour the issue of Spirit. Many externalize the Myth and fail to perceive the truth of the reality within themselves. Nevertheless as above - so below. So I do expect to see the externalization of the mystical in matter because the Mind will make it so.

If the collective consciousness of religion is looking for an all out bloody battle, then that is exactly what they will get. But in reality it does not have to happen. Armageddon happens between the ears at the Battle of the Kings. And then also between the ears - Melchizedek comes forth with Bread and Wine [metaphysically speaking].

I humorously smirk at this verse - Ye shall know them by their fruits. I am looking for that physical fruit but then when I actually spoke that recently to one seeking to get me to come to his church [Kirk], he said the fruit was not literal......He said the fruit symbolized deeds.

I like your use of the dance. So let us learn of Moses, Abraham, Pharaoh, Jesus, etc. So that we each might have Christ formed in us. Or said another way - Melchizedek might come forth at the Battle of the Kings to bring the Bread and the Wine.

Someone here wrote about Creation and Communication. We can do anything as One. The difference is Consciousness. I have experienced my 40 years of Probation [wondering in the desert of my mind]. I have led the "people" and yet we have remained in the desert. It is time to climb the Mountain.

I have sent out plenty of ravens but they never render any fruit. I have set down now upon a high Mountain and I am sending out the dove. I await the Olive Branch.

Consider now "war" symbolizes the internal conflict of thought. The Armageddon in the mind. And we know a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. Thus these that comprehend this mystical stuff, seeking personal carnal gain, seek to keep man in a state of duality.

Consider now for just a moment longer. Is it not transgression to even form a thought about what God is? For at once I have constructed a mental Image. What if I express that thought into matter? Then other men can know of my idolatry. But what other men cannot see is my internal state! I fell into idolatry the moment I began to define God with my thoughts!

[george]

hi everyone,

great topic alodial!

who is the federal government and are they able to bring forth a verifiable claim? (as Karl Lentz points out so well)
only man can bring forth a claim. a corporation is not able to testify. it seems so simple this way!

I fell into idolatry the moment I began to define God with my thoughts!

hmmm, thoughts.. my thoughts? I wonder if there is any "Important Answers About Ownership of Thoughts"? but yeah MJ, that kinda nails it what you wrote there.

thanks

[Michael Joseph]

hi everyone,

great topic alodial!

who is the federal government and are they able to bring forth a verifiable claim? (as Karl Lentz points out so well)
only man can bring forth a claim. a corporation is not able to testify. it seems so simple this way!



hmmm, thoughts.. my thoughts? I wonder if there is any "Important Answers About Ownership of Thoughts"? but yeah MJ, that kinda nails it what you wrote there.

thanks

Hi george,

ownership and citizenship are connected in implied and express trust. Ownership begs possession with begs estate which begs trust. Simply put:

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Hopefully one thinks before acting.

[David Merrill]

Hi george,


Hopefully one thinks before acting.

Hopefully one asks for the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God upon waking...


God is Love because the Holy Spirit will always deliver the correct interpretation (out of the infinite sea of information in allegorical metaphor (parable) created by the ego).


Thank you for being there Michael Joseph!

[allodial]

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

And the historical record of the Bible seems to show that when Israelites decided to worship the idols of any given system, they got the whole accompanying system. When they worshipped the golden calf (much like the Hathor one it is suggested), is it all that uncanny to suggest that Moses may have been moved to exercise his authority as an Egyptian governor? If they fell into Babylonian idolatry did they not get subjugated to Bablyon? Could it be that is because all of those systems in some way are designed to discourage man from relying on idol, idle gods?

The related terms that show that the OT was not mere allegory is that the terms conflict of laws and private international law elucidate. Going after other gods gets into the stuff of conflict of laws (aka private international law) which can be a snare.

And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. 13And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. Genesis 15:12-14

Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8

By selling their brother Joseph into slavery the sons of Israel who perpetrated such committed crimes under their own law and then pushed Joseph under Egyptian law (so he had to walk the line between God of Israel and Egyptian law). Now Egypt may have not been quite corrupted until after the 400 years or so of the Israelites being in Egypt. (Genesis chapters 39 through 50) But nonetheless, the consequence of the famine brought Israelites to deal with the issue of issue of conflict of laws [Have no other gods before me.]

Hopefully one asks for the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God upon waking... God is Love because the Holy Spirit will always deliver the correct interpretation (out of the infinite sea of information in allegorical metaphor (parable) created by the ego).

Definitely edifying. Being led by the Holy Spirit is very important.

[allodial]

I humorously smirk at this verse - Ye shall know them by their fruits. I am looking for that physical fruit but then when I actually spoke that recently to one seeking to get me to come to his church [Kirk], he said the fruit was not literal......He said the fruit symbolized deeds.

The NT actually lists fruits of the Spirit and they aren't necessarily physical objects though they are observable in those who bear such fruits. So its puzzling how anyone who is learned could even be the slightest bit confused. That such fruits aren't consumer merchandise is not kept secret in the Bible. Obviously some things are literal some are not. In the spirit these are literal fruits. Literal is not necessarily synonymous with observable to the physical. Something can be literal in the spirit. And if the man bears the fruits of the Spirit literally then they are of those literally as outlined above. Not all things are allegorical though some things (acts, events, etc.) might point to the symbolic or might be part of a larger allegory-highlighting act or plan. The entire walk of a saint through to victory is an assertion and exercise of truth, a proving of the revelations of truth are in fact true. The walk isn't necessarily allegorical or to be dismissed as non-existant.

I've been probably one of the few if not the only one who saw, thanks be to God of Christ, in the healing of the blind man that the man was actually first made to see in the most important way then had his physical sight restored (sound mind...sound body). In other words that he saw men being like trees walking HE WAS SEEING THE TRUTH.

Many interpret that healing as if the first healing misfired and then it finally "got right"--IMHO there is a huge point that could be missed with such interpretation.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23

[David Merrill]

The NT actually lists fruits of the Spirit and they aren't necessarily physical objects though they are observable in those who bear such fruits. So its puzzling how anyone who is learned could even be the slightest bit confused. That such fruits aren't consumer merchandise is not kept secret in the Bible. Obviously some things are literal some are not. In the spirit these are literal fruits. Literal is not necessarily synonymous with observable to the physical. Something can be literal in the spirit. And if the man bears the fruits of the Spirit literally then they are of those literally as outlined above. Not all things are allegorical though some things (acts, events, etc.) might point to the symbolic or might be part of a larger allegory-highlighting act or plan. The entire walk of a saint through to victory is an assertion and exercise of truth, a proving of the revelations of truth are in fact true. The walk isn't necessarily allegorical or to be dismissed as non-existant.

I've been probably one of the few if not the only one who saw, thanks be to God of Christ, in the healing of the blind man that the man was actually first made to see in the most important way then had his physical sight restored (sound mind...sound body). In other words that he saw men being like trees walking HE WAS SEEING THE TRUTH.

Many interpret that healing as if the first healing misfired and then it finally "got right"--IMHO there is a huge point that could be missed with such interpretation.

Agreed;

I think of it as torroid math. When he saw reality it was like a willow where the spiritual comes back down into the base, like the branches of a weeping willow, to be grounded back through the world experience and then rise again to the spiritual, cycling like a big donut with the sprinkles going out, then up through the hole - then back out...

[allodial]

Agreed;

I think of it as torroid math. When he saw reality it was like a willow where the spiritual comes back down into the base, like the branches of a weeping willow, to be grounded back through the world experience and then rise again to the spiritual, cycling like a big donut with the sprinkles going out, then up through the hole - then back out...

On that same kind of line of thought, the brain and the nervous system (they knew back in the late 1800s or early 1900s that nerve matter was in ALL CELLS of the body). The nervous system is like a branches of roots reaching out as part of facilitating the Earth Experience. The tree although if turned upside down becomes more apparent--or perhaps its more like weeping willow style system where the leaves and branches flow downwards (into the body).

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The nerve fibres of a live brain were traced by diffusion spectrum imaging, and coloured to represent their direction.



In a traditional sense, the nervous system extensions below the base of the skull might correlate to the roots of the tree that are underground. The brain itself might best correlate to leaves and systems above ground (kind've like a bush). No doubt, you could see how the body could be a type of sensory deprivation chamber or 'focus chamber' for multi-dimensional beings.