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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    That post sat for a few hours. I was interrupted.

    Looking at it, to finish it, I realize it was finished.

    That is one source of guilt - letting good food go to waste. I suppose that you could cook it well and it might be good for breakfast or lunch...

    This is really the point that jumps out for me though; as I look at the post above. Guilt is the cause of all feelings of separation from God - please call it sin for a moment. We have it ingrained to think of sin as actions but a leopard can viciously kill a baby zebra without sin. Even leave most of it for subsequent animals of the jungle all the way down to the bacteria carried by the flies. There is no associated guilt.

    Therefore the LORD gave instructions to sacrifice, should you feel the guilt. Otherwise the natural state is unity. Identify yourself to be of God and in the condition and character of His MESSIAH - Jesus Christ of Nazareth - by whatever name, this condition of balance between the base and the divine.
    First and foremost: animals like that are carnal. However, I have observe animals like that in the wild thousands of times and surprisingly they are not as cruel as the MSM lie that has been told. For example, although a group of lions took down an elephant, the moment they got it down and BEFORE they ate it THEY SUFFOCATED IT by placing their mouths over its trunk to make it pass out then finally die. I discerned that they would not be so cruel as to eat it alive. I myself as my experience has shown when walking in the wild, animals will look at me and keep going. I one case, an animal charged me, I stood my ground, it went RIGHT AROUND ME and kept going. In another, more common, an animal came up rubbed its nose on me and then went about its business. I suppose its my tuning in with God as monks in India suggest they are able to walk among lions because they keep certain things in mind. Mankind was made on a higher level. Beast-level guiltlessness isn't IMHO good for deriving a comparative edification for mankind because men were not intended to be mere beasts. However, they can go down that "beast path" individually of their own election.

    The leopard by killing the baby zebra is seeking to feed itself. It is not trying to make a market or engage in baby zebra futures market for speculative purposes. (It might be that 99% of mankind also isn't involved in futures trading, only a select few, but a few 1% just in it for $ rather than for feeding people probably feel guilty at times and aim to pass it off on the 99%.) Similarly, the husband out to feed his family is one thing, but guys just killing deer for fun -- that is obnoxious and against nature IMHO. The North-American 'natives' were more like Hebrews when it came to that kind of thing. They asked for what they needed and the many stories is that an animal would actually come around offer itself to them after their prayers. Again, this wasn't for 'fun' but for to eat.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    This is really the point that jumps out for me though; as I look at the post above. Guilt is the cause of all feelings of separation from God - please call it sin for a moment. We have it ingrained to think of sin as actions but a leopard can viciously kill a baby zebra without sin. Even leave most of it for subsequent animals of the jungle all the way down to the bacteria carried by the flies. There is no associated guilt.

    Therefore the LORD gave instructions to sacrifice, should you feel the guilt. Otherwise the natural state is unity. Identify yourself to be of God and in the condition and character of His MESSIAH - Jesus Christ of Nazareth - by whatever name, this condition of balance between the base and the divine.
    While you might be right to associate "Christianity" in the sense of Simonianism or Gnostic Spindoctoring that is posed as "Christian" (i.e. of the Anointed of God) for hundreds of years as "guilt-oriented". Cain and his progeny used religion as a political tool--to make people controllable and feel guilty. Ergo your observations.

    As for the true saints these days from what I have learned the very same OT doctrines are in the NT. The saint's religion isn't about guilt but about GUILT AVOIDANCE and the Blood of the Lamb has an identifying factor ala atonement. The Blood of the Lamb impedes witchcraft and sorcery which in my observation a foundational factor for disdain for the saints: that something or something "dares exist" that cannot be overcome or controlled (SUCH 'INSOLENCE'!) by the mere psychic emanations of those who regard errantly themselves to be God--well it pisses them off or they see a 'challenge' failing to realize the terrible danger they place themselves in by waging war against the Divine. That is because the Divine Mind is supernatural and it is supercarnal.

    Its almost mind-boggling that heretical Gnostics could express so much hatred for their very creation and handiwork but yet blame it on those whose identity they aim to malign --those they falsely impersonate and to their very own hurt and demise. But then from observation heretical Gnostics tend to hate creation anyway.

    I reiterate, for the saints it is about avoiding guilt rater than guilt. That is the salvation plan is about guilt-avoidance rather than guilt: "Here I will help you remain pure and holy and encourage you and instruct you in the lifestyle to maintain such". And the witches and sorcerers can't breach the walls of a holy household so they encourage sexual depravity--things to put 'holes in the aura' so to speak. Cain's political-tooling "religion" is about guilt and fearmongering. The truth of the Gospel is highly pragmatic. Mistaking the Nimrod and Cain's infrastructure of control for the Christ's lawful assembly is exactly that, a mistake.

    If you think theocracy is bad, just consider what it might be like should lawless mage-ocracy ever takes over without Divine Embassy to be found, anywhere.

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    Imagine heretical Gnostic paradigms ('creation is bad', 'sex is bad', 'the material world is profane', 'everything is bad', 'you should feel guilty for existing', 'you should feel guilty or having children'--this stuff is not scriptural its Gnostic and heretical from the scriptural perspective) in a mix with sound Biblical doctrine and you have a heretical 501(c)(3) Gnostic minister whose purpose is to make everyone feel guilty on Sunday, filling his tip jar on the way out they can assuage the guilt. They don't talk about gifts of the spirit or spiritual warfare--identification by Blood and the intense spiritual covering it would wreck the mind control and sorcery. Blaming the saints for the heretic infiltration seems just not right.

    Consider what some are saying about Billy Graham:

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    He is on public record supporting homosexuality, abortion, his disbelief in a literal hell [which is where we are now -100777.com], his support and practice of infant baptism to save children, his support for the Catholic church's worship of Mary (yet he calls himself a Protestant). He has repeatedly praised infidels and apostates as great Christians. He actively supported the American government policy to fight the Vietnam War. He would not challenge the idea that the Bible is mythology, when directly questioned. The deception doesn't stop with the Protestants, Catholic supporters have been kept in the dark about his abortion views. The deception goes way beyond Protestant, Catholic beliefs.
    An insightful Freemason elucidates the meaning of the so-called "Star of David" (has nothing to do with king David of ancient Israel):

    Each individual who is involved in a group is influenced by these egregores. For those that reach for a spiritual connection, the egregore assists and facilitates that connection. This process is unconscious, but is intensified through the initiatic process, which is designed to open the mind to the spiritual through the egregore.

    A symbolic representation of this may be had in the examination of the Star of David, an emblem of the divine. The top triangle points the heavens, and to the spirit. The bottom triangle points down, to the material and profane. United, they form a new entity, the six-pointed star that represents the unity of the two, from material to the spirit, connection to the divine.
    There is nothing in the Bible that suggests the material to be innately profane. That the material ought not be the object of your adoration or worship, obviously part of the message: but wait a minute the Cain control system can't have you NOT worshiping the material because that might result in loss of control so porn is plentiful, drugs too, "get money" --all pretending to be the doctrine of the saints and alleged "proof" for embarrassment to God of Israel when the Bible suggests no such thing. But the material itself is seen as good. So then people go on and on hating Bible believers when the idea of hating sex or feeling guilty about enjoying life isn't even in the Bible. So its seems mind-boggling to hear a Gnostic express his hatred for what his fellows invented and hold out to be 'Christianity'.

    The irony, God made sex so pleasurable, far more interesting and less taxing to roll around with some cute chic of a wife than going about killing your fellows and warmongering. Nope but some geniuses just had to come along to ruin the simple joys in life. Not to mention that Augustine managed to found a way to make warmongering kosher "to the Christian masses".

    Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates...
    Last edited by allodial; 10-28-15 at 05:29 AM.
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    hi everybody,

    it seems impossible to me to find truth outside of myself and so "seeking within" seems less suspicious to me but its not as easy as it "sounds"

    also not for nor against the idea of Jesus nor blood sacrifice, I blindly accepted the baptist baptism in my youth and went along that way for many years.

    when I started looking into how the KJV came about I started to look outside of it for more about Jesus, now I still consider all possibilities about it but dont subscribe to any of them.

    I can maybe relate to where BLBereans is about him surviving the cross. I think it is possible but still not actually convinced Jesus really even existed so I would like to see how those who think he "survived" have made it clear for themselves that he actually ever existed to survive. I have asked about it before.

    the story has been told in so many ways.. lately Ive been considering learning ancient languages (or trying to anyway) and even finding where to start has become a task. certainly hebrew would be good but also greek and arimaic but Im finding that those may all have a coomon root from sanskrit, anyone here have any knowledge about this?

    also fining phonetician very interesting. seems something happened when man started reading right to left (backwards) something major it seems (spells)

    so thats the direction I am considering taking "outside" but its a tall order for me. I have done some meditations for stillness inside of me nothing prescribed or directed though, only quieting the mind and so far Ive learned its not so easy and I have alot more going on inside than I thought I would have had. so far so good but I think I need to actually make it a habit now instead of just occasional.

    I can say that wildlife seems to not be as scared of me when I am quiet inside which I find very reassuring.

    about them charging.. years ago I was riding my motorbike at night, it was my first time back on the bike after a pretty bad injury from racing. anyway, I was on a powerline trail I was familiar with except one side had been clearcut for new suburban development, it was probably ~100 acres that was heavy woods before but all gone. the other side was still woods. I had stopped because my recent injuries were starting to hurt, it was probably midnight, I had a pack of crackers and a bottle of water so I was munching and from the woods I heard something coming my way and I could tell it was getting faster and closer! so close I was startled and on my keyring I have a tiny one LED flashlight and so I shined it in the direction I heard it and as soon as that tiny LED came on I saw it was a 4pt buck, head down and now 20ft from me! but that tiny light was all it took and he froze. Im certain if I hadnt had that light he would have tried to poke me at the least.

    I sensed his anger! he was mad that his habitat was destroyed! had that light on him for a few seconds and then he took off! it was quite an experience. later learned that there are more deer mailings than bear in this region and a couple each year are fatal. I was also thankful I had my leathers on. very thick for racing but I wear them any time I ride ecept in the yard.

    Ive also seen an eastern mountain lion which is still and has been considered extinct for more than 50 years while riding my motorbike! I was traveling at a rate of speed that Im sure was way beyond average LOL on a forrest service road in a national forrest area and my Honda with the stock exhaust which are notoriously quiet and (I keep my street legal bikes that way) so I pretty much snuck up on this huge cat so fast to catch him off guard! wow what a sight! huge cat! long tail too! I would not want to be hiking in that area!

    sorry, Ive got some wildlife stories.. Hawks will swoop ya too! always wear a helmet! lol

    thanks for sharing your thoughts here everyone, you folks are the most highly respected by me no matter what your beliefs or knowledge. I still dont quite trust anybody though but I think I could learn to easier with people such as yourselves here than elsewhere on the net.

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by george View Post
    sorry, Ive got some wildlife stories.. Hawks will swoop ya too! always wear a helmet!
    Helmets with eyes painted on the back, glow in the dark preferred.
    Last edited by allodial; 10-28-15 at 06:08 AM.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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